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mista_carrot
06-13-2002, 04:51 AM
Not quite sure if this would qualify as a diorama...I'm not even sure what you'd call it.

I started photoshopping photos of figures into background images and pre-existing photos earlier this year, partly because it felt more "realistic" to me and also because I don't have the space for a true diorama. With these I can just print them out and hang them on my wall.

Anyway, what's your opinion? Would you consider these a quasi-diorama or is this a totally different animal?

mista_carrot
06-13-2002, 04:54 AM
Ooops! That was the wrong image :stupid:

mista_carrot
06-13-2002, 04:56 AM
...and here's the AT-ST and Paploo

gibbspaulus
06-13-2002, 05:18 AM
Oh my good god - and this is just a hobby to you?? They are amazing!

sith_killer_99
06-13-2002, 05:26 AM
I would call it...


AWESOME

ACPin
06-13-2002, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by mista_carrot
Not quite sure if this would qualify as a diorama...I'm not even sure what you'd call it.

I started photoshopping photos of figures into background images and pre-existing photos earlier this year, partly because it felt more "realistic" to me and also because I don't have the space for a true diorama. With these I can just print them out and hang them on my wall.

Anyway, what's your opinion? Would you consider these a quasi-diorama or is this a totally different animal?
You can probably call it a virtual diorama, since all of it exists only in the virtual world. Not real, 3D objects representation of the movie scenes.

Nonetheless, it's cool and I've seen some do it for the trading cards where the actors are replaced with the action figures.

JediTricks
06-14-2002, 02:17 AM
Oh man, those are SOOOOOO cool! Very nice work, "virtual diorama" sounds good to me.

SuperBattleDroid88
06-14-2002, 11:03 AM
cool

stillakid
06-14-2002, 12:07 PM
Those are awesome, and in some respects, more permanent and portable than a real-live diorama.

How did you erase the unwanted figures so well from the backgrounds?

OneArmedJango
06-14-2002, 07:02 PM
WOW dude! Those rock!!! nice job.

mista_carrot
06-14-2002, 10:37 PM
Thanks for the compliments everyone. Virtual diorama is a nice way to describe em! I've got a few more scenes I plan on doing, so I'll post them here when I get around to doing them.



Originally posted by stillakid


How did you erase the unwanted figures so well from the backgrounds?


This is probably the hardest part of the whole process. In Photoshop you need to use the rubber stamp tool to grab a part of the image that is unoccupied by the actor and then stamp it over the actor to "erase" him. The problem is, how far you can go relies on what you have to work with, so sometimes the results will be good and other times it won't be. For example, I couldn't erase all of Vader's actual cape because there wasn't enough information for me to discern what should be stamped over it. You can see the actor's cape between Bespin Vader's cape and skirt.

OneArmedJango
06-14-2002, 11:54 PM
Cool, I'm looking foward to seeing them.

JediTricks
06-15-2002, 04:27 AM
BTW Carrot, having both the original and then figure shot really made these stand out even better. Fantastic! :cool:

I personally am not a huge fan of the Rubber Stamp tool, I prefer smudge and even just going in pixel-by-pixel, but the stamp probably IS the best way to go most of the time.

Darth Annexis
06-16-2002, 02:15 AM
Very Cool....

Darth Evil
06-16-2002, 08:05 AM
Wow, those are very nice.

ACPin
06-17-2002, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by mista_carrot
This is probably the hardest part of the whole process. In Photoshop you need to use the rubber stamp tool to grab a part of the image that is unoccupied by the actor and then stamp it over the actor to "erase" him. The problem is, how far you can go relies on what you have to work with, so sometimes the results will be good and other times it won't be. For example, I couldn't erase all of Vader's actual cape because there wasn't enough information for me to discern what should be stamped over it. You can see the actor's cape between Bespin Vader's cape and skirt.
I can relate to what you're saying since I also use Photoshop mainly for cropping, resizing and compressing the pics that I use for my dioramas. Every now and then I use it for special effects when the diorama calls for it. The lightsabers (http://209.197.117.27/databases/news/starwars/29/68.jpg) wouldn't look right if they did not glow.

The comic covers that I did last year for Mara Jade (http://209.197.117.27/databases/news/starwars/29/33.jpg) and Boba Fett (http://systems.figures.com/archives/images/06/30306.jpg) are the exact reversal of what you did. I had the pics for the background and stamped the titles over them.

SQueek
06-17-2002, 10:38 PM
wow those are awesome

Dooku Fett
06-17-2002, 11:09 PM
Nice Photoshop work! If I had a digital camera I would make some of those also.

stillakid
06-18-2002, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by ACPin

I can relate to what you're saying since I also use Photoshop mainly for cropping, resizing and compressing the pics that I use for my dioramas. Every now and then I use it for special effects when the diorama calls for it. The lightsabers (http://209.197.117.27/databases/news/starwars/29/68.jpg) wouldn't look right if they did not glow.

The comic covers that I did last year for Mara Jade (http://209.197.117.27/databases/news/starwars/29/33.jpg) and Boba Fett (http://systems.figures.com/archives/images/06/30306.jpg) are the exact reversal of what you did. I had the pics for the background and stamped the titles over them.


Apart from the eraser, the clone tool is probably the one I use most. I suspected that that was how you did it, but they look REALLY good. Very nice work. Once I get some free time :rolleyes: I may copy you and try to create some myself. It's just impossible to "store" a diorama and this is a great way to show off the collection in a "real" setting. Thanks for sharing.

mista_carrot
06-18-2002, 12:46 AM
Nice work ACPin! I think making the lightsabers (http://starwars.carrotnetwork.com/jediepisode2.jpg) and the blaster effects (http://starwars.carrotnetwork.com/clonejango01.jpg) glow is my favorite part of making these images. I think that was part of the reason I started doing them to begin with--to light up them lightsabers!

Blue lightsabers can be a bit of a pain since they don't show up too well against light-colored backgrounds though.

stillakid
06-18-2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by mista_carrot
...and here's the AT-ST and Paploo


How did you get the blur on the speederbike? Or am I just imagining that? :confused:

mista_carrot
06-18-2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by stillakid



How did you get the blur on the speederbike? Or am I just imagining that? :confused:


There's a couple of ways to do it. The way I did it was making another layer of Paploo and then using motion blur in the filters menu. I then changed the opacity to around 50% since it looked too blurred at !00% opacity. This second, blurred Paploo layer is over the normal Paploo layer. Hope this helps!

stillakid
06-18-2002, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by mista_carrot



There's a couple of ways to do it. The way I did it was making another layer of Paploo and then using motion blur in the filters menu. I then changed the opacity to around 50% since it looked too blurred at !00% opacity. This second, blurred Paploo layer is over the normal Paploo layer. Hope this helps!

Very much. Thanks! I've been experimenting quite a bit lately with multi-layering duplicate images, but mainly with a "dodge and burn" result. I haven't applied filters to different layers yet. Good technique.

ACPin
06-18-2002, 08:06 AM
Thanks all for your compliments! You can still view the dioramas that I did for Mara Jade - By The Emperor's Hand (http://www.figures.com/Features/index.html?show_article=27687&domain=sirstevesguide.com&dom=ss&domain_id=5) and Boba Fett SE Display (http://www.figures.com/Features/index.html?show_article=23589&domain=sirstevesguide.com&dom=ss&domain_id=5) from the SSG Dioramas section.


Originally posted by Dooku Fett
Nice Photoshop work! If I had a digital camera I would make some of those also.
You don't need a digital camera to do these. You just need a scanner or have the pics developed with the disc. What you really need is the Photoshop software or a similar digital imaging program. Granted the digital camera saves a lot of wait time since you can see the results right away.


Originally posted by stillakid
Apart from the eraser, the clone tool is probably the one I use most. I suspected that that was how you did it, but they look REALLY good. Very nice work. Once I get some free time I may copy you and try to create some myself. It's just impossible to "store" a diorama and this is a great way to show off the collection in a "real" setting. Thanks for sharing.
I used various tools to separate the titles from the scanned comic cover. After that I just selected one of the pics from the dioramas and pasted the titles over it. I pack my dioramas after I'm done doing the pics since I really don't have the space to display them out. That's one of the reasons why I take a lot of pics from various angles. This way I know how everything was positioned if I had to do them again.


Originally posted by mista_carrot
Blue lightsabers can be a bit of a pain since they don't show up too well against light-colored backgrounds though.
You betcha!

stillakid
06-18-2002, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by ACPin
Thanks all for your compliments! You can still view the dioramas that I did for Mara Jade - By The Emperor's Hand (http://www.figures.com/Features/index.html?show_article=27687&domain=sirstevesguide.com&dom=ss&domain_id=5) and Boba Fett SE Display (http://www.figures.com/Features/index.html?show_article=23589&domain=sirstevesguide.com&dom=ss&domain_id=5) from the SSG Dioramas section.



Where'd you get that cool fence that's behind Fett?

ACPin
06-18-2002, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by stillakid
Where'd you get that cool fence that's behind Fett?
That's the wrestling cage set turned upside down which I also used as background for Jabba's Droid Dungeon (http://www.figures.com/Features/index.html?show_article=22841&domain=sirstevesguide.com&dom=ss&domain_id=5).

I've also used photoshop to create the blast effects for the in-flight attacks of the Y-Wing (http://acpindioramastwo.homestead.com/files/YWing_fires.jpg), B-Wing (http://acpindioramastwo.homestead.com/files/BWing_fires.jpg), and A-Wing. (http://acpindioramastwo.homestead.com/files/AWing_fires.jpg)

JEDIpartner
06-18-2002, 02:11 PM
nice work! I'm looking forward to seeing more of your handiwork in the future!

JediTricks
06-18-2002, 04:44 PM
When using motion blur, be sure to control the ANGLE of the blur via the "dial" or the numbers. Even a few degrees of angle can really add that extra touch of realism.

stillakid
06-18-2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by mista_carrot
Not quite sure if this would qualify as a diorama...I'm not even sure what you'd call it.

I started photoshopping photos of figures into background images and pre-existing photos earlier this year, partly because it felt more "realistic" to me and also because I don't have the space for a true diorama. With these I can just print them out and hang them on my wall.

Anyway, what's your opinion? Would you consider these a quasi-diorama or is this a totally different animal?

I forgot to ask where you're getting those backgrounds from? Art of books? Or non-SW related material? Thanks.

mista_carrot
06-19-2002, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by stillakid

I forgot to ask where you're getting those backgrounds from? Art of books? Or non-SW related material? Thanks.


The background for Endor was from a photo collection I got from an advertising friend. It was just a generic image of a redwood forest. The backgrounds in the Jango/Clone and Arena Battle images were taken from the trailer, "The Clone Wars". I don't have many SW books, but of the ones I do have, the quality of their photos aren't that great. Generally, I scour the net looking for high quality images and use those.

LTBasker
06-19-2002, 02:13 AM
I have photoshop 6, wish I could do stuff like that! Unfortunately, somehow I can't just sit down and read the tutorials, the way I learn is just fiddling with stuff, so my skills are limited. :(

morecow299
07-13-2002, 07:04 PM
that was great
the computer image backrounds were a very nice touch