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Boba Fitt
06-16-2002, 02:00 PM
Solution to the Tastetesta situation?

A very large number of us were scammed or set up to be scammed by this little punk. Who is he, really? We got several names and address for him and we have no idea what is the right one.

In order for us not to get ripped off we have to make things more secure.

My proposal:

Make the board, or at least the trading sections, private. You have to apply for membership. As it is now scum like 'testa can sign up with a new name every stinkin' day if he wanted to.

If you have a positive trade rating on the board here then you obviously know many of your fellow traders and are almost certainly guarenteed a membership.

But for anyone new they must *ALWAYS* send first and *ALWAYS* send insured or another legit way to track the package. After a preset number of perfect trades the Moderator/Admin will make him/her a full member and no longer has to send first.

If a member decides to send first or at the same time as a trial-member then that user will be doing so at his own risk.

The applying trader must provide:
REAL name
REAL address
REAL email

This way we keep the slime out and good deals in.

So, people of this board, what say you? Good idea or bad?

Beast
06-16-2002, 02:13 PM
Sounds good, not to mention all trades should take place on the boards. Not in E-mails, PMs, or IM's. We also should institue somthing similar to what TheJawa has going on, you get trading points beneath your name for every positive trade that has taken place. Once you reach 5-10, like you said you could become a trusted member. I like the idea of making it private, or atleast moderating it a bit more then happens now. I am hoping that there are some changes coming, but I can't say anymore right now about what. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

cptpinkerton
06-16-2002, 07:25 PM
I really don't think privatizing stuff is going to be a good idea. Especially mandating stuff like how many positive trades you've made with people before you are 'accepted' into a community. There are myriad collectors out there who won't be conducting tons of trades on message boards, but I think closing the trades down to being limited to the board only would be a mistake. Especially because then, it will essentially make sir steves guide forums liable for trading issues, especially if the trades are limited only to the message boards. It could create problems for the website in other fashions. Unless the board has a bunch of disclaimers and stuff set up.
One thing that might work is making it so each user name can only use 1 IP. While it would prevent me from logging on at work, an IP ban, would be more permanent, unless people have a system that utilizes varying IPs.
there are alot of problems that come along with making a board private, part of which is going to center on how it might not foster positive reactions to the website - and could result in new members being deterred. And if we are truly fans of Star Wars, and the toys that accompany it, we wouldn't be doing anything to make it difficult or frustrating for new members.
At an initial glance, I thought that making the boards private would be a novel idea, but a different board I used was made private and eventually I stopped using it altogether.
Its too bad a single jerk has the power to ruin something for so many other people.

On the flip side, I might be singing a different tune if that little jerk had taken my stuff too.
When does the carpool to his house leave?
Luke

Edit: Also, if this privatization would happen, it would only be right to make sure that EVERYONE, established here or not, whether they have 3000+ posts like Jar Jar, or under 30 like me, all of them start at a 0 rating. Start everyone off at the same place. Otherwise new members could become even more frustrated especially if the 'older, seasoned' members never had to go through any sort of trial period. If people are being subjected to something that the whole group isn't, I don't think that is right either.

Apologies for the length.

Beast
06-16-2002, 07:49 PM
Well, maybe not privitizing it. But some changes need to be made, so that we can not only stop this person from signing up over and over again, but also other new people popping up just to rip people off. Someway of tracking the good traders though with points, and having to have new traders ship first, is the only way to stop this sort of stuff from happening. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

cptpinkerton
06-16-2002, 07:54 PM
I think the shipping first thing is a fine thing for me personally, I just know that it will be a problem for other people. I just want the trading to be safe, and before any decisions are made here or on other boards I want to make sure people are thinking of it from as many angles as possible.
Do I care a little too much?
Am I VERY new around here?
Both answers are 'yes.'
I sound like a parent with this: I just want a community where everyone can feel safe.
But its true.
LMS

DarthBrandon
06-16-2002, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Well, maybe not privitizing it. But some changes need to be made, so that we can not only stop this person from signing up over and over again, but also other new people popping up just to rip people off. Someway of tracking the good traders though with points, and having to have new traders ship first, is the only way to stop this sort of stuff from happening. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

I agree with JarJarBinks on this matter. I think possibly this could be a good idea. Lets say in the forums we have a good reviews section and a bad reviews section for the traders/sellers in our forums. I have traded twice and have not have anything but good luck with these other members. On the other hand I wouldn't want to be taken by a guy like tastetesta or anyone else for that matter. I agree that some sort of honor/review system could possibly deter individuals like him. The system should include E-mail , full address, username, and any alias like mine ( A.K.A. Lord Jango Fett ), this and the fact that you can only sign up under one E-mail address/IP number. After this if you move or change E-mail address you have to clear it with the moderator of the section it will go in. The Mod will then check your previous history, by using the Password you give him to see if you were in good standing. If you were not then it should be disallowed and if it was good then O.K. The Points Sytem mentioned should be applied to everyone and they should all start at 0, to make everything fair.

Beast
06-16-2002, 08:36 PM
Anyone using the trading forums, should have to log their real name, address, and e-mail with a moderator that will be tracked. That way, someone like Tastesta cannot just make up fake names on the fly and use them. That way, people trading can check the addy and name with the moderator. I wanna read more ideas on fixing this up some, so that the traders here can feel comfortable in trusting people. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DarthBrandon
06-16-2002, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Anyone using the trading forums, should have to log their real name, address, and e-mail with a moderator that will be tracked. That way, someone like Tastesta cannot just make up fake names on the fly and use them. That way, people trading can check the addy and name with the moderator. I wanna read more ideas on fixing this up some, so that the traders here can feel comfortable in trusting people. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Good idea JarJarBinks ! Also along with their real name,add, and E-mail, their user name should also come up. 1 username to go with one address, real name, and E-mail. This will also let others know on the forums who you are and prevent using of different usernames and false address to get into the trading forums. I also think if one has a bad experience ( trading and didn't receive anything in return ) that the individual responsible should be blacklisted in the forums for good. Harsh punishment for harsh crimes. This is supposed to help others who can't find what their looking for, and we may have to take messures to ensure that this stays fun and safe for all involved. Anyone else have some more input ? I like to trade but I don't want to be taken for a ride.

maul4ever
06-16-2002, 10:40 PM
hi




how does your post number change
i have been a member of this board since 1999 when the ep1 toys came out. and i am still only on 1. i know i have posted almost 100 times just since april

Beast
06-16-2002, 10:45 PM
The classifieds sections, do not increase your posts totals numbers. I think its because there can be alot of multiple posting, working out a deal and the mods don't wanna have to worry about post padding issues. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DarthBrandon
06-16-2002, 10:45 PM
Well it says that you registered in Feb of 2002. Did you re-register under a different usename ? I've been on this website for years, but I only registered on the forums back in Nov of 2001.
Are you on the Classifieds like JarJarBinks Suggested ?

maul4ever
06-16-2002, 10:47 PM
i think i reregistered in april. i kind of got most of the ep1 toys in 1999 and then quit until ep2. stupid on my part

Sark
06-17-2002, 02:41 AM
.Make the board, or at least the trading sections, private. You have to apply for membership. Let's not let some jack off ruin everyone's fun. I'm one of the sparse few that doesn' trade a whole lot. I'm fairly new here, and have a few trades in progress. I don't trade a whole lot, just a few things here and there I need. Making this a members only club, would in my opinion be unfair to us scarce few that aren't big traders. I think the send first policy for newbies is fine. I was/am one of the "newbies", and I offered to send first. But privatising everything won't fix the problem. The only sure fire way to keep from getting ripped off and scamed, is to obviously have some idea who you're trading with, i.e feedback etc, and get a tracking # with your shipment. Usually that will deter dishonest traders

jonboy
06-17-2002, 06:04 PM
As a newcomer myself, I can handle a little mistrust. Trust is something that you have to earn, and I am willing to pay my dues to get it. But, on the other hand, I don't want to be constantly watched over like a common thief. I am in the same boat as Sark. I just trade a little and the only posts I have are in the classifieds section(which don't count in your rating). On the other hand, I welcome anyone to post a concern about me if we are dealing and he is unsure. I have nothing to hide. I would readily give my real name and address to anyone who asked. I would also be more than willing to send first to established traders to ease their minds. But, I am not willing to be put under a microscope every time I try to enjoy my hobby. Safeguards are a great idea, just don't alienate (?) new traders over the actions of a few. Thanks for reading my long winded rant.