View Full Version : SSG BATTLE OF THE MACHINES DEATH MATCH for QF Fight 5!!!

06-21-2002, 03:25 AM
Tonight the firefight is going to rock your house!

We have a 3-way Death Match fight!

That's right: the Desert Skiff vs the Trade Federation Tank was never really decided, the skiff with only its nose 1 vote past the AAT and the fight fans in favor of the tank raising more hell in the posted commentary on that brutal and bloody fight!

Now there's going to be a rematch! - But it will be even more intense as the winner of that previously undecided match from the Preliminaries was destined to face the Imperial Army's ATST scoutwalker!!!

The AT-ST as originally released featured a "remote control button" that let you make the scoutwalker's legs pump up and down like it was marching into battle or stomping on your Rebel action figures and those Ewoks! Twin side-cannons click and offer anti-aircraft defense for the walker - though one of them was supposed to be a grenade launcher and this oversight was never corrected when the AT-ST was re-released for the modern line. A twin-barrel nose cannon offers anti-personnel assualt capabilities while the control cockpit holds one action figure (not included). A "tank top" hatch opens and allows the pilot to scout out the situation, or use the hand-blaster cannon mounted on the top deck (though this was never seen in the movies). The ATST defeated Luke Skywalker's T-16 Skyhopper 219-60 to get here. A win with over 78% of the votes!

Well Luke is back for a little Revenge for the Jedi as he personally commandeers one of Jabba the Hutt's desert skiffs to take with him in this fight! The Desert Skiff sits atop display "landing struts" and features an extending plank that breaks away to pitch figures off to their doom! The side rails also "break away" to simulate battle wear, as does a brand new paint deco on a re-release of one of the most elusive Star Wars vehicles, molded originally in the vintage years. The pilot's controls at the rear of this cargo carrier remotely operate the craft's features, and a thumb toggle switch guides the steering rudder fins. Packaged in a window box display simulating the Rebels' fight against Jabba the Hutt over the Great Pit of Carkoon, the Skiff was released as a still very hard to find Target exclusive, and included a Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight figure packaged with it (and a lot of twist-ties). The skiff can easily hold 7 (seven) action figures! But it might need to use those twist ties it came with to tangle the walkers legs. The skiff never had any victory over the Trade Federation's AAT Tank and many say it actually lost, though the numbers have it over the tank by 1 mere vote.

From the Battle of Naboo comes the Trade Federation's AAT Tank, and in fact, Star Wars collectors' first tank ever! This vehicle is deceptive in its slim closed packaging: once opened and fully assembled, the AAT is a good sized vehicle! "Floating" on hidden wheels that give the tank the look that its operating on working repulsarlifts, the vehicle is raised into optimal firing range for its no-less-than 4 actually firing, mobile-missle launcher tubes. The vehicle is also well defended from both surface and arial assault by a pair of side-mounted multi-blaster cannons, while the main turret holds a very powerful single-barrel laser cannon. Another feature lets you position OOM-9 (not included) in the command tower and a remote lever makes him pop out of the main hatch. If the AAT takes any battle damage, the main pilot's station can be blasted open and the pilot Battle Droid is ejected, while an interior panel cleverly switches from displaying a "clean and new" Droid gunner, to a blasted and battle-damaged one! The AAT can also serve as a troop transport because it may take on up to 4 more Battle Droids on action figure stands that flank its sides to quickly move the Trade Federation Forces into position to take over the market! The tank might have lost the last round to the skiff by 1 vote, but those posting in Preliminary Fight 13 did not seem to think so.

Now both OOM-9 and Luke will have their hands full as they not only take on each other, but the might of the Galactic Empire's Army as well as the ScoutWalker crashes this party!

Which vehicle is going to win?


Only 1 of them will survive and make it to the Semi-Finals as we see which toy is the greatest Hasbro achievement in the modern collection!

Vote now! Then let's talk about your choice for The Death Match!!!

06-21-2002, 03:33 AM
I vote the trade federation's tank. Don't ask me why, but I think it would outlast the skiff and scout walker. Just my opinion.

06-21-2002, 03:43 AM
That could reflect product quality, but I'm not sure what you intended with your post.

The Skiff is delecate and small, while the walker's legs are flimsy and some do bend out such that the walker leans or falls over.

Remember, we are talking about the toys here, while it's very possible you could be partial to your favorite vehicle from amongst the choices here anyway.

But in any case, here's a picture of the match you suggest:

06-21-2002, 04:01 AM
None of these are even close to my favorite vehicles, I just think in the long run the tank would outlast the scoutwalker and the skiff in battle or in toy form( Wear and Tear). Just a better toy in my opinion than the rest. I don't even like them that much my favorite would be the vintage shuttle.

06-21-2002, 05:27 AM
Despite all fallicies with these toys, I just dig the Scout Walker more than the other two.

06-21-2002, 05:54 AM
Me too! I voted ATST. It's just more fun as a toy.

I wished it had shooting missles like the tank, but you can't beat that stomping action. I loved that as a kid and I still do now!

06-21-2002, 07:33 AM
I had to go with the AT-ST. It's a pretty cool little toy...not to mention that was popular enough to be released TWICE in the modern line! Now THAT'S an accomplishment! BTW, it may be the same mold, but I still like the TRU exclusive better than the POTF2 release.

My only complaint with the AT-ST walker is it's small size. I really felt it should have been done large enough to fit 2 figures in the cockpit.

BTW, Hasbro...if you are listening...WE NEED A NEW AT-ST DRIVER!!!

Rogue II
06-21-2002, 07:38 AM
I voted for AT-ST. I still like the skiff, but the scout walker is the better toy.

06-21-2002, 09:47 AM
I went with the skiff. I really liked the vintage version, and it has a pack-in figure.

jedi master sal
06-21-2002, 10:21 AM
That tank is awesome. room for hanger-on-ers (battle droids on the side) swiveling parts and just an overall cool design. Besides it seems in the long haul that it won't bow like the AT-ST's legs and doesn't need a stand like the skiff.

06-21-2002, 10:29 AM
3 versions of the AT-ST are out now (Vintage, POTF, And POTJ) and they still haven't gotten the details right yet with the weapons or the top railing. The tank is nice and authentic to the movie, but the Skiff is the best of the lot.

Mandalorian Candidat
06-21-2002, 11:03 AM
Another tough matchup Tycho.

I go with the Skiff. I voted for it previously and I'll stick with it now. You get the nice Cool Hand Luke, a unique vehicle, and a great diorama builder. The other two are nice, but the Skiff just appeals more to me. Throw in the fact that it was an HTF exclusive, and that makes it more desirable to have.

06-21-2002, 11:23 AM
Skiff - Cool features, like the plank and launching pad, however, like the rest of the vehicle, those are flimsy and are difficult to make work. The "landing" gear also is flimsy and barely keeps the vehicle upright while trying to play with it. I kept the original plastic "holder" as a substitute to make it "float." That's a "no" for the Skiff.

ATST - Cool stomping action legs, but in the end, difficult for a kid to work effectively and the legs should have been made with much better materials. To flimsy to withstand longterm play without warping. That's a "no" for the ATST

Tank - A great looking vehicle. Fairly sturdy and includes FIRING MISSLES which kids LOVE. They love to shoot stuff, people, etc. Besides being too flimsy, the other vehicles lack this feature which sends the Tank to victory.

06-21-2002, 03:56 PM
I'm going with the AT-ST, one of my favorite toys from the vintage and modern lines. Just a cool toy to play with and an interesting display piece also. The only problem is that it is nowhere near accurate to the movie, but I learned to accept that disturbing fact over 15 years ago so it doesn't hurt how much I like this toy.

Of course that doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see a new, more-accurate version.

06-21-2002, 09:40 PM
I have to go with the Skiff. It looks exactly like it does in the movie and it holds many figures. Could be a little wider but it is the best of the 3 choices.

06-21-2002, 09:52 PM
I like the Skiff because of the detail and features it has for its size. A number of lager vehicles don't match the Skiff in these aspects. Yes the Skiff could be wider and a bit longer but over all its pretty good.
I don't like the AAT as much because the floater wheels feel weak and I don't trust them. And some of the features don't work as well as they could. As for the AT-ST, I have never been overly impressed with it.

06-22-2002, 12:58 AM
If I could have voted in order, it'd look like this:


I think the Skiff is a pretty cool toy in a good package with a nice paint job and a... er, no adjective describes this figure well, but it comes with a figure. ;) It has a lot of little gimmicks and while not perfect, has enough fun for me to really enjoy it. It's too small in many ways, but as a toy, it's my pick.

The AAT Tank is a fairly good toy too, it's solid and while the gimmicks don't work that well and the hull is far too loose, it's pretty good. However, the paint isn't my cup of tea and it doesn't hold figures all that well.

The AT-ST is a toy I wish I liked, but I don't. It's flimsy in several different meanings, barely holds one figure, and the various weapons and gimmicks aren't terribly robust or accurate. I think this vehicle deserves better, I know it deserves better than a 20-year-old design like this rehash.

06-22-2002, 01:06 AM
Hmmm, I'll vote for the AT-ST. I would like to vote for the skiff but it's too frustrating for me to put in all of the figures I want. Usually a pack in will boost a toy's value to me, but Luke didn't excite me at all. So it gets no bonus points there.

The AT-ST, well . . . I do wish it could hold two drivers/ewoks but I'm just more forgiving of it than I am with the skiff. :D I guess I just appreciate it more as a display toy.

:( I've never seen the Tank so I have to leave it out of consideration.

06-22-2002, 08:57 AM
I may have voted for the Skiff...if I could ever find one!!!

I was in Hawaii when it was released. And guess what...there are NO Target stores in Hawaii!!!

I am thankful that I now live in Kentucky...where Targets are plentiful. I would HATE to miss the Death Star Trooper acc. sets!!!:D

Eternal Padawan
06-24-2002, 10:04 AM
This three way battle virtually guarantees the winner get its bum handed to it in the next round.

I picked the Tank because its a very nice likeness of the actual vehicle (even if its a tad small) and it's the only original in the bunch. That's right. I voted for it because Hasbro actually had to go out and earn their pay by designing a new sculpt rather than sluffing off of Kenner's old molds...