View Full Version : Enthusiasm !!!!!!!!!
06-22-2002, 12:20 PM
I'm as quick as anyone here to poo-poo Hasbro for their bonehead lack of responsiveness to our MM / AF wants.
In other aspects of my life, or the lives of my immediate family, when faced with a situation where certain outcomes are governed by forces largely out of my control, I try to focus on the things I can effect.
In the MM / AF arena, what we can effect is our own enthusiasm for those items that are already out. It's obvious that the aftermarket auction prices are momentarily over-inflated due to the buzz from the latest movie, but experience tells us that the prices will drop again after a while. As for any new product that may, or may not be released - if it does, GREAT!, if it doesn't, that will SUCK!, but should we allow that to kill or even diminish our interest in what's already out there or on our shelves? - IMHO - NO!!! It's like so many other things in life - Hasbro only has the power to take away your happiness about MM / AF if YOU give them that power.
To HELL with Hasbro. If they do release any new items (even repaints), I'll buy two of everything. But it will take something truly amazing on their part to ever win any respect or loyalty from me. I'm not holding my breath for that, and I'll be damned if I'll give them the power over me to let them take away my enjoyment of what I already have, and what's still out there for the having.
Other than our customizers like Sakay & BC3, who exemplify the spirit I've been talking about as far as making their situation instead of just being dragged along by the current created by other forces, maybe everyone else who posts here already has everything they want from the existing produxt line, and has nothing new or interesting to say about what they have or hope to get?
When I got most of what was available, boxed, I eventually got the jones to try for openers of everything, too. Unfortunately, I got hot to do this fairly recently, when auction prices are high. But the enjoyment and thrill of seeing the opened ships has been wonderful. Heck, I never knew from looking at my boxed version, that the stand for the Rancor was brown. I'd have never been so interested to open a TF Droid Fighter without reading JG's post about how ingeniously the rotating walking wings/legs mechanism was designed. I just learned from GSJ and r2dee2 this week about the Alpha Snowspeeder variations!
So, what's it gonna be, folks?
Are you gonna be in charge of your own happiness, or do you forfeit all control of your happiness & enjoyment of these great toys/collectibles to Hasbro?
Well, I'll end this rant for now.
06-22-2002, 01:07 PM
. . .they're so cool i don't Have to work up enthusiasm about them; their coolness does all that work for me. they're all joy, no effort :D
same goes for remaining positive about their future propects. if & when they're reborn, so much the better; but if i never get any more than the ~175 diff mm ships i already got, i think i'll live ;) i still enjoy my mm collection as much as ever, spending an inordinate amount of each day posing & starin at em (in cafes, during reading breaks or while watchin late-nite tawkshows; after all, mosta the time you don't really need to keep yer eyes on tawkshows) :D
i'm obsessed, & it's an effortless obsession, & i ain't alone. if hasbin values bein plugged-in to consumer zietgeist, notices our enduring mm buzz here & acts on it, good for them, they'll make some $$. otherwise, the party goes on without them :)
06-22-2002, 01:13 PM
If Hasbro doesn't want to make them, that's their money-loss, not ours. We've got many places to go to get custom MMs made, like the place that BC3 links to on his site. Or we can even try a hand at making our own.
06-22-2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by vulcantouch
. . .they're so cool i don't Have to work up enthusiasm about them; their coolness does all that work for me. they're all joy, no effort :D...
i'm obsessed, & it's an effortless obsession, & i ain't alone.... :)
VT!! (why are you always "under cover" when you are browsing the forum?) My point is that we shouldn't have to work up our enthusiasm. For me, it flows, effortlessly, to borrow your adjective. But as for the obsession being effortless, I propose that we get back from it what we invest into it. Like I said above, without the input to this forum from others, I would not have been so quick (if ever!) to discover cool features or aspects of certain AF items.
Let's read more about your musings over those MMs you pose while TV chat shows yack in the background. Heck, I can't share those kind of thoughts with my girlfriend or neighbors, without their eyes glazing over while they make out their grocery list in their head, while pretending to listen to my gushing about SWAFs. Right here is a (duh!!!) FORUM for all thoughts Galoosbro.
You do share (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=356) a lot with the group. It's just when it seems to me, on balance, that there are as many or more posts (from me as much as anyone) slamming Hasbro & their current/future plans, as there are posts about positive things about the existing releases, I get frustrated.
06-23-2002, 04:15 AM
I agree with being happy with all that I have in Micro Machines. There were many made and I do enjoy looking over the detail in each one. But there are so many that can be made. If Hasbro doesn't see this, they probably don't want to. They could dominate on a line of Action Fleet and Micros, that no one is doing.
06-23-2002, 05:08 AM
I derive a HUGE amount of pleasure from my micros & more recently my AF's (my mrs can't understand why a bloke in his 30's collects little plastic space ships).
Would love some new ones though.
06-24-2002, 12:18 PM
-1: no one ever expressed displeasure about it before :sur:
2: you wouldn't begrudge a guy's attempt to maintain his image of mystery now would you? ;) ("paranoid is what they call people who Imagine threats on their life; i Have threats on my life" -garak to bashir, ds9's "profit & loss" :evil: )
"Let's read more about your musings over those MMs you pose"
-alas, in lieu of no new ones, my year's worth of mm fashreports about covers said thoughts. but:
"while TV chat shows yack in the background"
-ok, that's a new twist. but i'm not sure i can relate it to mms much, so prepare for eye-glaze:
i watch the soon-extinct PI (this is its last week) as it's broadcast, along with charlie rose & jay lee-no (the last two only if they have certain guests, which isn't often). the others i tape & watch over meals or whatnot the next day. craig kilborn plays fun at dusk cuz of its los-anj vibe, then letterman, then conan if i didn't get to him over behfust (which i usually do during daylight time; during standard time's longer evening hours i usually watch all 3 at night). then the loathesome carson dildy (http://sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=80075#post80075), again depending on who his guests are. (by then i've about had my fill of them shows, so putting him last comes in handy in case i'm impatient, wanna call it a night & skip that dicquehead :evil: ) ff thru all comms of course, and most musical guests (these pinheads- Especially letterman- wouldn't know musical taste if i ground their Faces into it; if i see dave matthews on his show One more time i'm gonna fly to indianapolis & shotgun his hoosier mother!! :p ) then when that tape's watched i rewind it & load it back into a programmed vcr dedicated exclusively to this daily task- a 15-year-old korean mule so broken-down it no longer rewinds & only records in Black&White anymore, but who cares cuz after all these aren't star treks, just tawkshows, right? ) and record over it w/the next night's batch.
oh i almost forgot, the last 1/2 hour of craig overlaps w/the 1st 1/2hour of conan, so i watch one or the other as it airs, and record the other.
as for mms? i keep em mms in a shallow, large shoebox-lid-type box at bedside, under a strong, close, movable light & next to a small desk space, where i can set em up & scrutinize their details up-close while the shows yammer in the background. same if i'm readin; a quick glance over at their non-verbal, abstract shape & color compositions makes for a pleasant break from paragraph-sloggin :)
if i was out cafe-slummin, sometimes i'll still be residual-buzzed by how the particular ships i deployed sang that afternoon. otherwise i just set up whatever seems to work that night. i've noticed that i prefer jemhadar in daylight, cuz incandescent light emphasizes the pink of its purple, while i prefer the daylight's emphasis of its blueness :cool:
06-24-2002, 12:40 PM
(now that's s fun post!)
thanks, VT, you international man of mystery ;)
06-24-2002, 01:58 PM
I couldn't agree more with SWAFMAN, our enthusiam is what it will take to bring us through this dark night, the one thing we control is our own sphere of influence, taking it and expanding it to others as we do in these forums. MM & Action Fleet our sure to rebound, due to poor marketing and production Hasbro is alittle hestitant with what the market will bring. This is where this forum and others like it will bring clarity to those in Hasbro to make a decision, keep on writing and welcome others to join us in our crusade to bring back mm & action fleet to a higher level of excellence! The ball is in our court, what we do with it is up to us.
06-24-2002, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by vulcantouch
i rewind it & load it back into a programmed vcr dedicated exclusively to this daily task- a 15-year-old korean mule so broken-down it no longer rewinds & only records in Black&White anymore, but who cares cuz after all these aren't star treks, just tawkshows, right? ) and record over it w/the next night's batch.
Has occurred to you that it may not record in colour because you've thrashed the living p!$$ out of the tape, which I presume you never replace :p :evil:?
good shot jansen
06-24-2002, 05:08 PM
my enthusiasm for the product has never waned, i still love the entire line today, as much (if not more so), than when i 1st started collecting and playing with these things back in '95. (last century!)
as a testimony to the enthusiasm still felt for micro machines, one need only take a look at the post count for for mm's compared with other collectable star wars toys. over 3000 posts since last august (that's when the counter got reset, and we had to start all over again.......again......again.......) legos only has over 800 posts. think about it, 800 posts for a toy line that seems to be growing leaps and bounds in the toy aisle, swallowing up all available shelf space, and yet, thers's over three times the posting here in the mm section........for a toy that hasn't been made in nearly three years.
if we've found so much to say without any product, just think how buzzing (a nod to the buzz), theis joint would be with something new and real in front of us to chat about!
06-24-2002, 05:46 PM
Taking a look at the other series of collection is exactly the point, the individuals that love and collect these series have dedicated websites and collector fan clubs, promoting there customization, expansions, and new ideas. In relation to the few dedicated MM & Action Fleet Forums, it really doesn't compare. I've been a collector of action fleet also since 95' and only found out about this site 3 months ago. It seems to me we need to promote our collection, drafts of ideas and customs inorder to build a following Hasbro can not ignore. As for the few dedicated forums to MM & Action Fleet, I'm afraid until we adopt the practices by these other collectors and clubs, who by the way have Hasbro's ear and have there collection growing weekly with new and improved items, we may find ourselves in retread hell. "Are we there yet?"
06-25-2002, 01:28 AM
O ;p[br... I love the home keys. ;)
Now that my hands are on the right keys, I love Action Fleet, Die Cast, and Micro Machines so much. I think they're possibly the best toys in the world. What I don't like is how heinously we fans have been jerked around by the corporate entity that ate the company that made them great. I'll continue to love what I have, but I also want more of what I love. That isn't to say my collection is complete, I still need to replace that stupid Rebel Transport playset I lost when I can next afford it, but I really do feel under the boot of Hasbro on Star Wars and it squeezes some of the fun out for me. I remain enthusaistic about the line, but not about the company.
I've never been too enthused by Micro Machines in the past, but I now hope there are many more new offerings because its a toy avenue that I'd love to get into. I picked up some pieces here and there over the years, but never really appreciated them on the whole. :(
Swaffy, I understand the point of your post, and think I need to give my tiny MM collection a big hug. :happy:
But at the same time, given my mistakes in the past I can't help but feel that I'll really get excited if Hasbro starts filling the toy shelves with MM products (especially Action Fleet, those are my favorites, I think).
06-25-2002, 10:53 PM
Caesar, to paraphrase ObiWanKenobi, "you've taken your first step into our fun and addictive world."
Your contributions to the other forums have always been great reading, and I welcome you and look forward to seeing your thoughts here in MM / AF world.
What MM / AF items do you already have? How informed are you on what all is available and allegedly still to come?
What can I do to assist you in furthering your collecting and enjoyment of these great ships, etc.?
That was my first post in the MM forum that I can recall, and I must say my fingers trembled as I typed. :D
What do I have? Not much, but I managed to get some stuff from most of the lines (I think). I have to admit that most of my purchases were clearance items but looking back I wish I had picked up some more stuff. Alright, I'd have to say AF are my favorite, with a TIE, Vader TIE, and a few wings - Y & A. The smaller sets are neat too: Jabba with throne, Bantha, and especially the Droid escape pod!
Die-cast - I don't think I have more than a Sandcrawler and Falcon, but I was pretty excited to add a vintage die-cast Cloud Car recently!
MMs (how do you reference the "regular" MMs?) - that's where most of my collection lies. I collected as far back as 1994 (when did Galoob start making them?) so it was circa '94 and I was 16. Just seeing new SW products on the shelves riled me up as I had a lot of fun with the vintage toys. I started by just getting the 3 packs, and I eventually picked up a few playsets (Hoth, Endor, Death Star) as well as the transforming R2. To be honest with you, when the action figure line really got going again, I focused on that.
I'm excited to learn of what's to come, all I've heard about are a few reissues that JT reported on. I can tell you that if Hasbro gets aggressive in releasing AOTC merchandise, I'll be paying attention for a loooong time. I really enjoyed the movie, and I think they could make some cool toys based on it.
Heh, I remember reading a post by GSJ after the Clone War trailer was released, he lamented about how so many of those vehicles would be so neat in MM form. :(
Personally, I'd immediately grab any release of the Jedi Starfighter, a Republic Gunship, and I'd really like to see a die-cast speeder set. Those are just a few thoughts . . .
What can you do? :D First, just keep being Swaffy!
Beyond that, I think I'll just take some time to read through some old threads, that should afford me the opportunity to nestle in. :)
06-26-2002, 05:31 AM
Caesar, glad to have you aboard our little express train to MM-station. :cool: Galoob first released 3 SW Micro Machines 3packs in mid-to-late '93 along with 3 Trek 3packs in their "Space Micro Machines" line.
Most of us call Action Fleet "AF", Die Cast "DC" and regular Micro Machines "MM" even though they were all under the "Micro Machines" banner. The other stuff is not as common and usually gets referred to by line name like X-rays.
JT, thanks for the quick lesson in the nomenclature of Micro Machines. :)
Oh, late 1993? That makes sense, because I remember bugging my sister to drive me to WM after school to get those . . . I started driving in mid-94, so I knew it had to be before that. :D
Hmm, I forgot to mention that I like the AF Series Alpha. It's strange, in the Hasbro figure poll I'm not interested in a concept Stormtrooper yet I think my Series Alpha AT-AT and Snowspeeder are really nice. Maybe because it shows the evolution in design across 2 pieces, instead of just one concept piece in the package.
06-28-2002, 12:07 AM
Ah, good reasoning. I had to ride 2 busses to get to the local TRU to look for cool toys, and I just basically stumbled across the Space MMs. I bought Trek packs 2 and 3 and SW packs 1 and 2 that day and had noooooo money left except for my bus fair.
I like the Series Alpha as well, both incarnations (Classic Trilogy and Ep 1), but I can't wait to get concept Stormtrooper too, so we differ there. :D
07-10-2002, 05:24 PM
now That's an easily-amused dude ;)
jdah: "Has occurred to you that it may not record in colour because you've thrashed the living p!$$ out of the tape, which I presume you never replace"
-oh give me a Little credit for deductive skill :p some of the tapes are trashed to be sure but even fresh ones only record in b&w :crazed:
i don't mind, it saves wear & tear on my other four vcrs (actually 3 as of sunday; i gave one to a pal & showed him ds9 eps "inquisition" & "in the pale moonlight" on it :) )
07-11-2002, 01:20 PM
throwing out credits willy nilly! They have to be earned! :p
In this particular case, however, I grant a credit! ;)
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