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Tycho
06-27-2002, 12:12 AM
OK, this just happened about half and hour ago.

My friend who has a long-distance boyfriend but who I really like a lot, and who I am getting signals from that she likes me, drops by all of the sudden with her best friend, who has previously been interested in me.

The girls have to come over planning on taking me out to a club tonight, while I have my shower taken apart and under repair (to the sliding glass doors) and I'm in the process of cleaning up this place (which is a mess). Oh, and I need a shower and I'm wearing swimshorts and a StarWars PodracerT-shirt that's convenient to work around the house in.

While meanwhile I've got a stack of about 30 carded figures, plus 12" exclusive Clone Troopers, and a Euro-boxed Falumpaset sitting out, waiting for my buddy Tony to pick up, and they take up several chairs at my kitchen table when the girls want to sit down and have a drink. (so they sit and I stand)

Uh, Star Trek's also blaring out of the TV set because I'm listening to it while I clean for a distraction and something different from all the music I've been blaring earlier.

Mind you, these girls are hot, hot, hot!

OK, can anyone see how I felt I looked like the King of all Nerds?

If you're a bigger nerd than I am, please post something!

The end of the story? - the girls went out and invited me to catch up with them. If they don't see me, which would be most likely as I can't take a darn shower until I fix the doors and put the place back together, my friend said she's coming back over tonight when the bars close. Now she did leave all her CD's so I'd have something else to listen to.

What the heck am I supposed to think or do now?

LTBasker
06-27-2002, 12:19 AM
Well... could've been worse, you could've been sniffing your mouse droid the whole time. ;)

Jayspawn
06-27-2002, 12:27 AM
Thats quite a perdicament Tycho. I would just have calmly moved the stuf into another room and turn off the tv. Then I would have changed into something nice and met up with them at the club with no mention of your mess.

Beast
06-27-2002, 12:36 AM
:D Can't....Stop....Laughing. :D Ok, seriously.

He couldn't do that though Jayspawn, he just said that he needed a shower, since he was working. Which likely meant that he was quite funkerific. Tycho, If you had a outside faucet and a hose, I would have went out there, since it sounded like it was night time and hosed yourself off, with a bar of soap.

And don't worry about feeling that you may be the king of all nerds. I doubt that they thought it was as bad as you are thinking it was. After all they didn't point and laugh at you for your collection of toys and your clothing. Besides, trust me...we all have those kinda stories. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

2-1B
06-27-2002, 12:51 AM
Tycho, if every individual gaffe you mentioned was magically reversed, you'd still be in the exact same predicament because you are wearing a Podracer T-Shirt ! ! ! :crazed:

Goodness, you must have looked like a little kid! I'm reminded of the time at church when I spotted a scamp running around in a Jar Jar T-Shirt. :D

Uhhhhhhhhhhh, I would just hang out and wait for them to return. They'll be somewhat inebriated so the sight of your toys will cause a giddy reaction.

Beast
06-27-2002, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Caesar
Goodness, you must have looked like a little kid! I'm reminded of the time at church when I spotted a scamp running around in a Jar Jar T-Shirt. :D
That reminds me, I need to get around to ordering those E1 Jar Jar Binks T-shirts Caesar. Thanks a ton for reminding me. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Tycho
06-27-2002, 01:28 AM
I've got one door back on, and am cleaning the other one now. The faucets are back in place and everything's re-caucked (spelling). I'm letting the caucking dry while I finish the last door.

My one friend has been over many times. She laughs at my toys but must like them because she looks around and says "I remember this." She's seen AOTC 2 times and loves it as well.

The other girl was never over before and I have no idea if she was forewarned. She also loved AOTC and said she'd see it again if I wanted to *grin*. But she said that my 4th of July plans were with them and she'd either see me tonight or tomorrow...

Just the inconvenient timing...

That and she's allergic to my cats. But they know and like my friend and climb all over her.

If I'd had just a little more time I would've been all done and put on my JarJar shirt and looked like a stud! :crazed:

Then I'd be ready for...???

What?

2-1B
06-27-2002, 01:45 AM
Tycho, you may want to let that caulk dry overnight. :confused:

So what exactly is your operating procedure here? Do you stay logged on while you run back and forth completing your tasks?
I'd think talking it up with us would diminish your precious time. :D

To quote the Cable Guy, "I'd strike while the iron's hot if I were you, he who hesitates . . . "

Obi-Don
06-27-2002, 02:41 AM
Man I feel for you. Its like the time, along time ago. I was calling out of work. The woman that handles the phones was really hot. Instead of me just telling her I was sick. I told her what was wrong with me. After I hung up. I looked over at the phone and said," I can't believe I just told her that I would not be in today because I have the sh......." well you can figure it out. Don't worry about it to much,there is always people like me to make you look good.

Tycho
06-27-2002, 05:08 AM
Caesar, I have internet addiction. Or at least SSG addiction.

I do leave the computer running a lot because I was doing good physical labor and when I wanted to rest and get away from the dust and chemical smells I was creating, sitting my butt down in front of the computer without having to boot up or log on was great.

Obviously I care a great deal about talking to all of you, so for a special treat, I'm going to take pictures of my new shower (without me in it) and let you guys see my handiwork.

No doubt that would be more exciting than new pictures of my SW scenes so I will create my own very special SSG guide to home improvement.*


*I am full of it. The money I save from not developing film will be just enough to get me some tile cleaner to take care of all the places I spilled or smeared on the floor outside of the tub.

I did get that shower and the cauking seems alright, but I can't sleep without a shower anyway. And the girls did not come back over tonight, but I didn't think they would:

a) because I'm such a nerd
b) because I looked like a slob on top of it
c) because I know my friend has to work in the morning
d) because she'll see me soon enough when she comes back for her music

-JediMaster-Yoda-
06-27-2002, 08:02 AM
this never happens to me just say you bought the toys for someone and were goanna sell them because their a good profit and if you would here them pull up you could quickley change your shirt and at least try to turn off the star trek music....do you have a two storie house?

DeadEye
06-27-2002, 08:27 AM
Haha, Tycho, good one! I think the expression of Celchu on your avatar does a great job of showing your predicament! :D

Similar things have happened to me before...unfortunately. :( I once left some of my Star Wars figures out on my desk overnight to play some more the next day. :) But in the morning I was running late and had to rush out to get to the Gulag. (school) Then this moronic freshman follows me home for some reason...he sees my collection and laughs...yet I've seen him collecting 12" star wars figures and making them play with Barbies. :p

Mandalorian Candidat
06-27-2002, 10:23 AM
These were girls, right? ;)

DeadEye
06-27-2002, 11:12 AM
Here's hoping.

Tycho
06-27-2002, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by -JediMaster-Yoda-
this never happens to me just say you bought the toys for someone and were goanna sell them because their a good profit and if you would here them pull up you could quickley change your shirt and at least try to turn off the star trek music....do you have a two storie house?

No. I have a 2 bedroom / 2 bath apartment and while I wasn't satisfied with maintainance's job on my bathroom so I did it myself (while I didn't really have to). Besides, it's good to learn how to do these things (though I already knew how to do cauking and tiles)

I do use 4 rooms in my place for my 6 foot cases with my Star Wars dioramas (http://209.197.117.27/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=sscollections2.setup&category=starwars&topic=11&search_and_display_db_button=yes) .

My living room has all forest art, pictures, and plants. My guest bedroom has a bed, the computer desk I'm typing at right now, my regular writing desk, and all Southwestern / Indian desert art. And my bedroom is done in all white and black, with fantastic photo images of snow peaks etc. on the walls. As you can guess, the Endor / Death Star, Tatooine, and Hoth / Cloud City "freezing" displays are in their respective rooms accordingly. These cases in the picture link I showed you, fit neatly against the walls / 2 to a room. My large country kitchen has room for 1 more case and I use that one for the Gungan / Trade Federation battle presently, but it is a "test set" case because I didn't finish backgrounds or do any landscaping for it. I merely wanted to set it up to see how many battledroids / Gungans I'd need. (3 rows of 5 droids) vs. 7 Gungan soldiers in formation, a Gungan manning the catapult, a Faamba, Falumpaset, 3 Kaadus with JarJar, Tarpals, and a soldier respectively, versus 1 AAT Tank, and a STAP, plus the line of infantry droids. An MTT (if they made it) would be hard to fit.

In any case, a test set case helps me figure out how much stuff to buy. The Battle of Naboo will be coming down once I have the Arena Playset and my Gunships. I want to see how many Gunships fit (my aim is 2 in each of two Battle For Geonosis displays) and if I can hang these gunships in the fixtures (or as with the Royal Starship, the wing expanse is too big).

The cases cost $200 each, plus delivery from an outlet that makes these for department stores (I remove the glass shelves). To do two I planned for Theed, I need to have more expensive cases made custom - I need only 2.5 more inches to fit the Royal Starship in one (on a top shelf I leave in) and have it look like it's escaping Theed with all the R2 units on board and "in action." Below it I wanted to create my first "fake water" waterfall and have the Gungan Sub scene going on (if Hasbro would only make the sub). I already have soft-goods Jedi and swimming JarJar waiting to do this scene. Then to complete a collage of the escape from Naboo, on the boardwalk along Theed's river, I wanted to do the Jedi versus 6 Security Droids guarding prisoners of Sio Bibble, the black travel Queen, and handmaidens (if we get them made as well).

The girls think I'm creative because I build stuff with these things versus I guess stacking them everywhere. I'm also supposedly more stable or reliable as "a friend" because they don't see my life revolving around going to clubs and scamming on other girls, so I guess I look like I have other interests instead of being a cheater and a liar. It's true: if I had more room to make more dioramas, I'd rather stay home at peace with myself, than go out spending lots more money on clothes and shoes and get my ego ran over by trying to pick up on 5 or more girls every night. These ladies are very fine, and they've been friends and good neighbors. Like I said, my good friend has been over many times, and I guess she's glad something keeps me busy at night when she's not around. Instead of going "looking for it" I might end up with a girlfriend sooner than later. She and her roommate (same best friend) might be moving in here for about a week until their new apartment is ready. Unfortunately, they're moving out of my complex because of rent increases.

But my home does have liveable space, which there wouldn't be if all my toys were in one room. It's the stacks of toys I bought for other people, in this case my pal Tony and his $232 stack of Endor Soldiers, Massifs, Orn Free Taas, Djas Puhrs, 12" Clones, Nexus, etc. that he hasn't picked up yet. I contended since I drove to Wal*Mart and KayBee while he was working (and I should have been), that he should drive over here and pick his stuff up. I was supposed to bring it over last week on a night we had plans, but my "girlfriend" wanted to go out so I took her to a comedy club and dancing instead. Sometimes StarWars is not my priority ;)

pthfnder89
06-27-2002, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Tycho

I was supposed to bring it over last week on a night we had plans, but my "girlfriend" wanted to go out so I took her to a comedy club and dancing instead. Sometimes StarWars is not my priority ;)

That right there tells me that there's plenty of hope for you Tycho.:)

Trust me, I know what you're going through. I probably don't have quite as much of my SW stuff out in the open as you do, but I still have quite a bit of it on display and I worry whenever I have someone over whom I just recently met. I never know what their reaction is going to be.

Thankfully my girlfriend is pretty fine about it; whenever I tell her I need to stop by TRU or WalMart to see if they have any new figs, she gives me pretty much the exact same look I give her when she says she needs to go shoe shopping :D So she just thinks it's one of those little quirks that we all have and she doesn't mind.

But I still worry about when people see my apartment for the first time. Usually it's not as bad as I fear so it turns out ok.

At least by admiting that Star Wars is not always the most important thing in your life, you take a step back from that line crossing into total geekdome.;) Most people are pretty accepting as long as they know that there are other facets to your personality.

MikeAndTheBots
06-27-2002, 12:28 PM
I have a question. I want to avoid looking like a total nerd/geek so I need something to store my figures in. Anyone know something cheap and easy to store but they can still be easily accessed? I sort of want to avoid getting into Tycho's or a similar situation.

DarthBrandon
06-27-2002, 12:38 PM
Tyco, your story and predicament was quite interesting and funny to read. I've been there done that with the wife, your in the early stages and if things go well you just might land this hot female. One thing I do know if she thought you were a geek, then she wouldn't be hanging around so much, let alone bringing her friends there as well. I say your in if you play your cards right.

P.S. I liked your diorama's, they were quite creative, and she may be impressed with that also and the fact your not bar hopping and trying to scam chicks. Big plus to your advantage. Good Luck and take care.

Jonna
06-27-2002, 12:38 PM
Ya, I have the same question as Mikeandthebots, I was storing the figures in comic boxes, but with the new shaped bubbles it is really not very efficent. Any ideas?

QLD
06-27-2002, 12:58 PM
I have this problem every day. Especially when considering that I live with my girlfriend. But I keep it all in my den/computer room. So it's no big deal though. But the house....well.....that is a mess everywhere.

Vortex
06-27-2002, 01:11 PM
Poor guy. well at least you didn't have on 50's black framed glasses with white tape in the joint between, and weren't sporting a high and tight...wait I'm sporting a high and tight...scrap that...

Anyway, 1 of 2 things will happen. She'll avoid you like the plague since she thinks your a dork, which I doubt she will. OR She'll raz you to no end about your collection, which one can assume is flirting. Odds are she'll give you some crap about it for a while, but if she does like you, this shouldn't matter to her.

Hey when she does start to give you some hell about your toys, just ask her about her shoe collection:) or you could tell her it better than collecting porn:) In either case she'll probably give you a wack on the arm...which is a good sign...physical contact, the obivious sign of flirting.

QLD
06-27-2002, 01:48 PM
Or you could ask her if she would rather see your collection of dead bodies.......

Or maybe not..... :D

Tycho
06-27-2002, 02:00 PM
LOL Quite-Long-Dong!


And thanks for the encouragement guys!

I'm home today working on the kitchen. If I do all this today, I'm going to have to catch up on my city contract work over the weekend to be sure.:rolleyes: But at least I'll have a comfortable place for my friend to stay and something "mature" to work on. :stupid:

darthvyn
06-27-2002, 03:08 PM
girls? what is this... girls?

actually, i agree with brandon. friendships are a good way to create a more meaningful more-than-friendship. it always gets into a sticky place if more than one person has feelings for you, and you have feelings for only one of them, (which is the situation i find myself in right now...) but you are obviously in a different realm than the guys that they will inevitably meet at the club/bar scene. it's like in "swingers" when mike is talking to trent, and he says he "won't be one of those a-wholes." in their eyes, you are the serioius relationship type, not the random hook-up type. you're on deck, as soon as the wild oats are sewn, you're up at bat. at least, that's what it seems like.

either that or they hang out with you to have someone to make fun of behind their back... kidding...

Tycho
06-27-2002, 03:43 PM
Actually, it gets a little more complicated than that. I was very involved with the ladies' immediate next door neighbor, who was extremely sexy and 'the swinger type' I suppose. She liked guys - and girls, too. My friends were jealous of her I think, and some things I saw when they interacted with their neighbor that I was always with made me think they pretty much hated her. Since then, that girl - who I knew a month before my friends moved in here last summer - has moved out. They raise the rent in San Diego like crazy here.

(My 2 bedroom was $750 / mo when I first moved in here. Now it is $1100 plus parking fees. The girls share a single bedroom that I'm sure is pretty close to $900 now, and my rent increases have been gradual, but substantial, too. 2 bedrooms go for $1250 or more now. The San Diego City Council of which I'm heavily involved with in my consulting work is having hearings on what they've voted to call an "emergency housing crisis" as it is so expensive to live here. I think the average for a one-bedroom is $600. I live in one of the nicer places right near San Diego State where I recently graduated from).

Anyway, of my two friends, I knew they sort of liked me, or I got those signals, but they lived right next door to the girl I had set my hopes and dreams on. It was impossible to not be noticed since I was living half the time on their floor. At parties, that's how we met. I was already with someone, and these girls have had their share of interested boyfriends or guys who were wanna-be's. At least I'm real. I don't hide anything in my closet (because the boxes my Royal Starships and Vintage Death Star Playsets, etc. won't let me fit anything else in there!)

I guess a lot of people pretend they are perfect for their dream girl and then "change on them" after a few years in a relationship because they get tired of pretending they are what someone else wanted them to be, and hiding their personality, while they are living for someone else. I hope I'm fun to be around, but I'm happy being myself, so I guess I'm really nice to people and they feel comfortable around me. That's all part of maturing or growing up I suppose. It may not be an intellectual decision, it's just that you might get tired of being "2 people." (In one of my early years in college, I remember waiting until 3 am to sneak the Millennium Falcon up into my dorm room so few people would see me flying spaceships in college!) My collection's grown so it doesn't fit in my apartment, let alone the fact that I don't trust storage plus I like my stuff around me. And I am tired of not being "who I am." This is me. You know from my posts that I HAD to HAVE 100 stormtroopers, etc. But I'm aware where non-fans, and even collectors that shop the same stores I do, may not like me because of my hobby (sorry about the R2 w. Holo Leia's to my fellow San Diegans, but you should've beaten me to the stores. All I saw were our local scalpers, so while they were in HotWheels, I took care of business!)

But anyway, if I'm going to watch Star Wars, I'm going to watch it. You're invited but if you're not interested, you don't HAVE to be into it or watch it to be my friend. We'll spend time doing something else you like, and hopefully we both like. If it's a balanced relationship, you'll hopefully do stuff I like. That might include playing baseball, jet skiing, supporting me when I'm publically speaking, or whatever. If I'm home on a Tuesday night and Smallville is a re-run and you want to hang out, hey: why not do your friend a favor and watch Star Wars with him? It's not like the Force will kill you! ;)

darthvyn
06-27-2002, 04:32 PM
you have to be true to yourself to find your true love. trite, but true... true.



true.

Jonna
06-27-2002, 04:37 PM
Nope, I'm a clean freak so everything is placed exactly where I want it.

2-1B
06-28-2002, 01:25 AM
Tycho, did you let that caulk sit overnight?

Tsk, tsk, I hope you didn't compromise the seal with a premature shower. :D

Tycho
06-28-2002, 02:10 AM
I had to shower because the ladies might have come back over. (they didn't last night but they did today)

It doesn't seem to have had any effect on the caulking drying correctly.

RooJay
06-28-2002, 02:32 AM
I've never had a problem mixing Star Wars and the ladies. None of them have ever seemed to have a problem with it! I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that I never act like it's anything out of the ordinary. I've never tried to hide my love of Star Wars. Everyone should have a hobby; Star Wars is mine and I revel in it! It's just one facet of who I am. In fact, I've even had girls use my love of Star Wars as a way to express their interest in me! Even if they didn't know the first thing about it, I've had quite a few ladies try!
It's all in the attitude!:cool:

Plus, if the lady didn't seem to make a big deal of it, and is still sending you signals, then I'd tend to assume she's good to go! I say go for it Tycho!;)

DeadEye
06-28-2002, 08:53 AM
I usually keep my collection in the closet, to leave room for my computer, extensive library, and over 300 PC games that I have. :D

Most girls that I take home don't even look in the closet, so...score! :D:):p

-JediMaster-Yoda-
06-28-2002, 08:55 AM
smart idea deadeye

darthvyn
06-28-2002, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by DeadEye
I usually keep my collection in the closet, to leave room for my computer, extensive library, and over 300 PC games that I have. :D

Most girls that I take home don't even look in the closet, so...score! :D:):p

but, see, that's what tycho was talking about... not being true to yourself, and then you get tired of being "two people." you literally are a closet star wars geek, come out and join us...


woohoo! 250!

stillakid
06-28-2002, 09:59 AM
To be an Uberdork or not to be, that is the question...

I suppose it all depends on the kind of woman you want to score with. The reality is that guys who immerse themselves into sports (watching it, playing them) are considered more "manly" and "cool" in this society. Guys who watch Star Trek are nerds, Star Wars: geeks, Sci Fi in general: brainiacs...in short, these are guys who can easily get beat up by the jocks.

Now, if that kind of physical prowess (at least it's potential) is important to that smokin' hot babe then you (in general) probably don't want her anyway...well, maybe you'd like her for like 20 minutes or so. ;)

The trick is finding that Victoria's Secret model who doesn't necessarily have to like sci-fi, but enjoys a guy who has a hobby that he enjoys and is fun to be around. So many of the "sportoes" that I know don't really have any hobbies beyond flipping on the game. They work some random job then go play some hoops or hit the gym then go home and watch some random game on tv. How fun is that guy?

Of course, there are ways to minimize the impact of geekdom, like not wearing sci-fi wardrobe or rockin' to the Meco Star Trek/Star Wars soundtrack. There's a fuzzy line there between hobby and being super-nerd. Hot chicks can figure that out. The same goes for the jock. Taking care of yourself by exercising is one thing, but complete immersion into Jockdom can be just as big a turnoff as the uberdork. The drag is that the jock is still going to be "cooler" than the nerd no matter what. Regardless, I suspect that your friend sees that you have an enjoyable hobby (vs considering you to be a total nerd) or else she wouldn't have left the CD's in your apt.

DeadEye
06-28-2002, 10:50 AM
I don't mind being 2 people....I'm actually many people.

In each of the following, I'm a completely different person:
-When I'm by myself/when I'm on forums
-When I'm being the star wars freak that I am
-When I'm around girls
-When I'm with my family
-When I'm at school

So I'm actually 5 people! :D *Maybe that's why I'm always stressed out... ;)

pthfnder89
06-28-2002, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by DeadEye
I don't mind being 2 people....I'm actually many people.

In each of the following, I'm a completely different person:
-When I'm by myself/when I'm on forums
-When I'm being the star wars freak that I am
-When I'm around girls
-When I'm with my family
-When I'm at school

So I'm actually 5 people! :D *Maybe that's why I'm always stressed out... ;)

I think some people don't realize how often we change into a "different person". I do think everyone should try to be true to themselves and not hide how they feel, or who they are, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we shouldn't adjust ourselves in certains contexts.

When you are with your best friends, you probably don't act anything like you would when you're with your mother.

And when you are at work, you act very differently than you would when you are on vacation. Taken in that context, almost everyone here has different modes of action for any given situation.

Like DeadEye, I keep most of my Star Wars collection in closets, not out on display, and that's ok with me because I really just collect for myself and I don't mind not sharing that with others. My girlfriend knows all about it since we share everything, and so do my close friends, but most people I know have no idea. And I don't mind that because it keeps people from having these preconceptions about me before they even get to know me.

MikeAndTheBots
06-28-2002, 01:25 PM
I don't see what's wrong with being two different people. And I wouldn't hide my stuff forever. I mean toys are automatically related to geekiness which is a pretty big turn off. So, after a while, I would maybe put them back out and see if she said anything. If she truly liked me for who I was she wouldn't care.

rynobot
06-28-2002, 01:33 PM
Atleast you weren't caught playing with them in your bed!

Jonna
06-28-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by pthfnder89


I think some people don't realize how often we change into a "different person".

No lie there! My girlfriend says that I act like a completely different person atleast several times a day. It keeps things interesting though. I would hate to be the same person all of the time. How boring would that be.:crazed:

Tycho
06-28-2002, 02:07 PM
I think Stillakid is right. You have to have balance. Actually my sort-of-girlfriend is fitness trainer who I also work out with. I'm not a customer before that idea gets started. She does her thing and I do mine when we go to the gym, or I meet her when she's off work. So I don't have the physique of the non-defenseable nerd picked on by the stereotypical jock (though I started my martial arts training some 5 years ago because I admired the way Jedi fight, LOL. Just don't tell anyone). Meanwhile, my friend is training to go into sports medacine. She'll do medical school when she finishes her undergrad. She has brains besides looks.

As far as "manly and cool in society" goes, being yourself, liking who you are and what you're interested in, and being confident about it, is being cool. I played baseball for 10 years while I taped every episode of StarTrek. When I was a second baseman, I did not go flip on Ryne Sandberg to watch (finished high school near Chicago), I caught up on Captain Picard who I admired more (and knew more about because it wasn't a real person's private life they were keeping private, but a character a fan was supposed to delve into and get to know). My teammates were not Trekkers and either didn't know I watched ST, or didn't know why I didn't know the daily baseball standings (for pro teams. I knew exactly where my personal team stood and what we had to do to make regional finals). I guess I was confident and interested in my life. If somebody from my team asked me if I wanted to watch the game with the guys, it would all depend on what I wanted to do with my personal time. The times I wanted to be alone, I'd admit I was going to lie around in my underwear and watch StarTrek. Once in a while somebody would ask "Do you think Picard's going to come back as the Borg leader and kill Riker?" or whatever (during that incredible cliff-hanger summer for the show).

And if a girlfriend asked me if I wanted to go shoe shopping with her and I had a reasonable chance of seeing her later, I'd say "I'd rather watch StarTrek quite proudly!:D "

Once in a while, I'd make a friend who was also a fan and now I know a lot of them.

Dorks and nerds in reality are typically people who don't know that they are. They have little awareness of life around them or don't have other hobbies outside of ones that limit their social skills and interaction. It is frowned on a lot because unless they have unusual intelligence or talent (they are not all brains as the stereotype assumes), they will always have problems interviewing for jobs and functioning and that is why they are best off living with their mother. I'm glad Star Wars gives them such a rich fantasy life and makes them happy. Everyone should find happiness. It makes me happy too. Maybe I'm a dork or nerd. I joke that I am, and if I am, people laugh it off because they're not uncomfortable with a person that's totally not self-aware. That's a weakness, and people fear or hate weaknesses in others because they're afraid to look at themselves. The jock that can't communicate with a girl because all he can do is talk sports statistics doesn't get the nerd label, but perhaps Dork still applies. I think I function rather well in society (though I spend way too much time in the forums here). But the conversation is rather interesting. In real life I talk about these things with other people "live," but they get really deep. It's hard to start those conversations sometimes, because even friends you know really well can feel like they just want to relax and take things lightly when you're ready to move on. In the forums, the appeal is that you can respond to someone's thoughts while taking your time about it. There's a lot of appeal in that, too.

anarky
06-28-2002, 02:21 PM
i'm two people sometimes--everyone is, intentional or not

there are a lot of nerds out there who don't know they're nerds, but there are a lot of nerds only because they think they are--nothing can make someone a social reject more than a complete lack of self-confidence