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Jonna
07-11-2002, 01:15 PM
I was just curious to know how far the SW plague reaches over the educational interests/careers of others.

I have a BA in English Literature with minors in Philosophy and Psychology from Montclair University.

And you.....

billfremore
07-11-2002, 01:19 PM
I have a diploma in Advertising/Business from St. Clair College.

Wow, you're one educated m**********r Jonna. :D

BanthaPoodoo
07-11-2002, 02:18 PM
I graduated with honors from HS, graduated with honors & on Dean's list from college.

My major was the Arts (Art Major).

I currently work as Senior Technical Support & Computer Engineer for an ISP. (so much for college!!!)

Jedi Knightrider
07-11-2002, 02:20 PM
I went to Pratt Institute of Art and Design, gradjimicated with a BFA (bach of Fine Arts) in illustration/graphic design/art direction/advertising, (aka ComD, communications design) with the emphasis on illustration. I want to do comic books!

Jargo
07-11-2002, 02:30 PM
None. :happy:

billfremore
07-11-2002, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knightrider
I went to Pratt Institute of Art and Design, gradjimicated with a BFA (bach of Fine Arts) in illustration/graphic design/art direction/advertising, (aka ComD, communications design) with the emphasis on illustration. I want to do comic books!

Excellent career choice.
If I had the talent I would do that too.

Are you influenced by any comic artists in particular?

DeadEye
07-11-2002, 02:52 PM
I haven't graduated high school yet, but I take mostly AP and Honors classes and have a GPA of 4.3...

Darth Shifty
07-11-2002, 02:58 PM
I have a B.S. in Computer Science and I'm a systems administrator right now.



Originally posted by DeadEye
I haven't graduated high school yet, but I take mostly AP and Honors classes and have a GPA of 4.3...

4.3 huh? I thought 4.0 was the highest... Do they give you extra credit for being SSG's Star Wars trivia expert, the #1 source of gun info, etc. etc.? :D

icatch9
07-11-2002, 03:08 PM
I graduated with a BS from Eastern Illinois University last December. Majored in Secondary Education in the field of Physical Education. I'm a certified teacher in PE and indorsed to teach history/social studies.

I now work for a large pharmaceutical company. So, much for college......a job's a job :)

I Plan on being a teacher some day, and getting my masters too.

Jedi Juice
07-11-2002, 03:09 PM
When someone takes honors classes, the grading scale is bumped up an extra point (ie A=5.0, B=4.0, C=3.0, etc.). Additionally, the amount of classes one takes also determines the GPA.

Anyway, I recently graduated high school with honors and will major in Political Science and minor (hopefully) in Musical Performance at LSU.

Jedi Knightrider
07-11-2002, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by billfremore


Excellent career choice.
If I had the talent I would do that too.

Are you influenced by any comic artists in particular?

Weeeeeeelllllllll, in terms of artist, Alex Ross it god, I really love Romita Jr.'s Spider-Man right now, now that he's thinner, JRJR used to draw him too bulky. i've always loved Erik Larsen, the Savage Dragon is almost up to #100!!! i've been following that comic since it was kneehigh to a grasshopper! Frank Miller's B&W stuff is amazing, i'm not too keen on the coloring of the new Dark Knight Strikes Back, but the coloring on 300 was incredible. I really like Alex Maleev on Daredevil, his work is so realistic yet super-stylized.

In terms of writing, J. Micheal Srazynski is cooking on Amazing Spider-Man (i'm just so psyched that it's good again - it was the only comic i ever had a SUBSCRIPTION to,) I really love New X-Men, Grant Morrison is crazy - have you seen "the filth" yet?

"amelia rules" is just too cute and well written. if you haven't seen it, seek it out.

Powers is awesome. also, daredevil - anything written by brian micheal bendis!!!

oh, what else, so much. however, i try not to be too influenced by anything. gotta keep your head OUT of the industry, so as not to just pump out the same exact thing. as it is, i've developed a bunch of characters and stuff, and as soon as i've got it fleshed out, something appears on the shelves almost just like it - that happened with Powers! only, it was even MORE cross-genre, because it was going to have fantasy elements as well. it was going to be a P.I. who's secretary is a pixie, his best friend on the police force is a werewolf, at one point it was going to take place in the future to get the sci-fi thing going too. there's a book out now called "fables" that gets the fantasy element crossed with the crime drama. it stinks on one hand, because i'm like, "hell, i could've made a lot of money with that..." but at the same time, it shows that i've got a good mind for what's going to be the "next big thing" in the industry. i just gotta get offa my duff and do it. i plan on having an online comic about my old job at a community pool online soon.

Jonna
07-11-2002, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knightrider


Weeeeeeelllllllll, in terms of artist, Alex Ross it god, I really love Romita Jr.'s Spider-Man right now, now that he's thinner, JRJR used to draw him too bulky. i've always loved Erik Larsen, the Savage Dragon is almost up to #100!!! i've been following that comic since it was kneehigh to a grasshopper! Frank Miller's B&W stuff is amazing, i'm not too keen on the coloring of the new Dark Knight Strikes Back, but the coloring on 300 was incredible. I really like Alex Maleev on Daredevil, his work is so realistic yet super-stylized.

In terms of writing, J. Micheal Srazynski is cooking on Amazing Spider-Man (i'm just so psyched that it's good again - it was the only comic i ever had a SUBSCRIPTION to,) I really love New X-Men, Grant Morrison is crazy - have you seen "the filth" yet?

"amelia rules" is just too cute and well written. if you haven't seen it, seek it out.

Powers is awesome. also, daredevil - anything written by brian micheal bendis!!!

oh, what else, so much. however, i try not to be too influenced by anything. gotta keep your head OUT of the industry, so as not to just pump out the same exact thing. as it is, i've developed a bunch of characters and stuff, and as soon as i've got it fleshed out, something appears on the shelves almost just like it - that happened with Powers! only, it was even MORE cross-genre, because it was going to have fantasy elements as well. it was going to be a P.I. who's secretary is a pixie, his best friend on the police force is a werewolf, at one point it was going to take place in the future to get the sci-fi thing going too. there's a book out now called "fables" that gets the fantasy element crossed with the crime drama. it stinks on one hand, because i'm like, "hell, i could've made a lot of money with that..." but at the same time, it shows that i've got a good mind for what's going to be the "next big thing" in the industry. i just gotta get offa my duff and do it. i plan on having an online comic about my old job at a community pool online soon.

What do you think of Tim Vigil (Faust)?

billfremore
07-11-2002, 03:33 PM
Actually I enjoy reading anything by Brian Michael Bendis right now. Both Alias and Ultimate Spidey are great reads.

I would love to see some fo your stuff, PM me sometime big boy!:D

mabudonicus
07-11-2002, 03:42 PM
AHEM.... Education, was it:)? I got turfed out of high school, went back and finished it in 98 at an adult centre. According to gov't tests, I'm a genius, but I don't have the money to prove it. If I could get my mom to co-sign for a student loan, I'd be back in University, but that'll never happen.
(BTW- make mine Ditko, Kirby or Sym:))

billfremore
07-11-2002, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by mabudon
(BTW- make mine Ditko, Kirby or Sym:))

ahh A fan of the classics...

stormie
07-11-2002, 04:09 PM
I received a B.A. in Physical Science (Geo./Earth Science conc.) from a small Univ. in California...a degree that, unfortunately, I've really never used for any of the jobs I've had. What a wasted four years.

BanthaPoodoo
07-11-2002, 04:19 PM
I think thats the big joke life plays on people....

We go to college & major in what we want as a career but then end up doing something else.

In fact, a friend of mine went to college & majored in History. She now works in the Civil Service as a C-130 Flight Mechanic!!! Go figure...........

Darth Nitwit
07-11-2002, 04:40 PM
I'm still in high school. I'm not in any honor classes or anything, but I'm doing pretty well. I like art class the best.

billfremore
07-11-2002, 04:43 PM
What grade are you Nitwit?

Darth Nitwit
07-11-2002, 04:57 PM
I'm a sophomore. I plan on going to college, just not sure which one. I'm just trying to concentrate on high school right now.

Jonna
07-11-2002, 04:59 PM
Hell, I didn't know were I was going until I woke up on the campus!

Darth Nitwit
07-11-2002, 05:01 PM
I'm sure I'll figure it out. I have some time.

DarthBrandon
07-11-2002, 05:26 PM
Lets see I have a Diploma is Business, one in Micro-computer Business applications and one in Computer Repair and Diagnostics. What do I do nothing, cause I'm a poor little rich kid. LOL Just kidding, I run my own business and work part-time for a friend.

Jonna
07-11-2002, 05:29 PM
What sort of Business?

Jedi Knightrider
07-11-2002, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Jonna


What do you think of Tim Vigil (Faust)?

Haven't actually read it - as much as I know, there is always so much more that I never will.

Eternal Padawan
07-11-2002, 07:46 PM
In about three weeks (barring incident) I should have a degree in Film Studies from the University of Iowa. Then I'll promptly get a job managing Denny's third shift...:rolleyes:

How many people here are genuises? Last time I got "tested" I was three points shy. Now I have an inferiority complex because you guys is all smarter than I am...You think you brains so big...

DarthBrandon
07-11-2002, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Jonna
What sort of Business?


Sports Pub and Eatery. My Friend runs a landscaping business which I work sometimes for extra cash. I also buy and trade toys with other collectors. It may not make me any money, but it's still fun to do.

My friend is also trying to get me into the boat business, buying, selling, fixing, parts etc. My parents got the money, but I don't want to ask for the help.

figrin bran
07-11-2002, 10:43 PM
i have a degree in sociology so i understand the boat you are in, eternal padawan ;)

r2dee2
07-11-2002, 10:51 PM
I've just got a BA in Elementary Education, minoring in art and sciences. After teaching a few years I started a family. Now, my hubby, HE's the brains sweatheart! He has a BS in math and physics, masters in electrical engineering and a D.Phil in Robotics.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
07-11-2002, 11:26 PM
I'm in the same boat with R2. I have a BA in Elementary Education, just graduated this year. I still am lazy putting out my resume. Shame on me.

It is hard to get a teaching job in your first year in my area of NY state because the teaching field is a pretty hot commodity (NY State teachers salaries are in the Top 5 in the nation). Even though I received pretty good grades I think I'll spend the next year as a substitute teacher and then go on to a position hopefully. If that doesn't happen I can always move to other areas of the country. Las Vegas, FL, NC are all killing for teachers. If that doesn't happen then I'll live in my parent's basement.

bigbarada
07-12-2002, 02:02 AM
Well, I have 27 credit hours towards an Associates in Art. To bad I've abandoned that degree plan. I'm now going for an Associates in Graphic Art and plan to focus on Web Page Design.

I've pretty much heard that anything below a Masters is totally useless in most job fields, as people off the street know just as much as someone with a Bachelors. I think college only exists now to teach all the stuff you were supposed to learn in high school; but have no time for because of all the sensitivity, tolerance and "how to get knocked up by your boyfriend" classes.:stupid:

Genius? Never been tested except for the Army aptitude test, which is a sort of practical IQ test. Anyone who's taken the ASVAB in high school knows what test I am talking about. Supposedly you must score a minimum of 90 to be in the Army in the first place and 110 to be an officer. 115 if you want to go for linguist or military intelligence. Me? I scored a 127.

I also scored a 26 on my ACT, which earned me a full term four year scholarship to the NM college of my choice. I used one year of it, then re-enlisted into the Army. So much for being brilliant.:rolleyes:

EricRG
07-12-2002, 02:17 AM
I have an associates degree in Biological Sciences, a bachelors in Biology, and now I've just entered my second year of the Biological Sciences PhD program at UC San Diego. Anyone else goto/went to UCSD and/or live in San Diego?

wedgeA
07-12-2002, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by Eternal Padawan
In about three weeks (barring incident) I should have a degree in Film Studies from the University of Iowa. Then I'll promptly get a job managing Denny's third shift...:rolleyes:

How many people here are genuises? Last time I got "tested" I was three points shy. Now I have an inferiority complex because you guys is all smarter than I am...You think you brains so big...


EP, I went to grad school there! Ever shop at Daydreams? Prices are a tad high but they are one of the best comic stores I've ever seen!

mabudonicus
07-12-2002, 08:06 AM
Hey EP- at least you're smarter than that "rollo timisiiskaming" guy. I couldn't even understand his posts or nuthin:)!!
Honestly, Genius is not really based on numbers at all. Or quantity of "knowledge", or math or ANYTHING. It has to do with the way you use your mind, and trust me, most of the folks who are the regular posters here would qualify as genius level.
Problem is, the tests aren't made well enough, it's only through experience with a person in MANY different situations that will give the kind of insight necessary to truly "see" the potential....
That's why it's so dangerous to base ANY "view" or "concept" on a few pieces of solid "fact".
So, without further ado, I dub thee (by and large) "GENIUS" (Canadians CAN do that, just like the queen:))

Jonna
07-12-2002, 10:48 AM
As per IQ testing, it is normally quite inaccurate. Usual what you are taking is a general test and they are horrible. There are actually 7 very specificly different kinds of tests. I can't remember what they all are though. The ones on the internet are garbage. I have gotten anywhere from 137 to 162 on them. I personally think that I am smarter then that, but I get a big head sometimes. Now if I could just remember where I put my feet last.

billfremore
07-12-2002, 10:57 AM
Oh I found your feet, they were in my walk-in humidor of all places.
Just give me your address and I'll mail them back to you.

Jango Mango
07-12-2002, 10:59 AM
I have a Masters Degree from NABOO University in Chemical
Engineering and I work at a large Pharmaceutical co. :Pirate:

Jonna
07-12-2002, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by billfremore
Oh I found your feet, they were in my walk-in humidor of all places.
Just give me your address and I'll mail them back to you.

Were they in that shoe that you found of mine 2 months back? Wow, was it really that long ago?

Oh no, I'm responding to myself again!:cry:

billfremore
07-12-2002, 11:52 AM
That's okay, I'm told that's the sign of a true genius...

..although i'm the one that told myself that, Hmmmm. :D

By the way Jonna, how did an English Lit guy like yourself wind up at a phamaceutical company?

Jonna
07-12-2002, 12:10 PM
It is the money, plain and simple. I am a writer at heart, but unless you write like Stephen King or Daniel Steel you will end up eating the leather off your shoes. I have taken many different jobs because of that reason. Before my current one, I was a supervisor of payroll and administration for the US Federal Dept. of Commerce. Now that was a sweet job. I got payed lots of cash to sit around and direct other people. Unfortunately, it was only a year assignment and then the office moved. I'm still writing my book, as I probably will be for some time. What's it about? Difficult to explain, but it is more or less like a mixture of Buddhism, Junian psychology, quantum physics, Spinoza logic, NLP (Nero-linguistical Processing), etc.. Sort of like a 'How Find Enlightenment For Dummies' thing. I am getting the impression that by the time I finish it I will be either be completely insane or simply fade from existance. I'll just flip a coin.:crazed:

billfremore
07-12-2002, 12:20 PM
Sounds like a good book.
The subject sounds a little heavier than I' ususally read but I'd love to peruse it when you're done.

stormie
07-12-2002, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by bigbarada
...I've pretty much heard that anything below a Masters is totally useless in most job fields, as people off the street know just as much as someone with a Bachelors...

See, stuff like this really irritates me. A degree is just a declaration that one has satisfactorily completed specific required coursework in a specified time. It does not mean one is necessarily able to regurgitate and adequately use the information studied in that coursework.

I've worked with people that had MS degrees from fancy universities, and some couldn't spell worth a darn, or even figure out simple conversion calculations. Yet, because they had a "Master's Degree," they were put in supervisory/managerial roles and paid more...much more. However, my current manager does not have a degree at all, yet I would say he's probably the "smartest" of all the managers/supervisors I've had.

It's also a little irritating how degrees from some schools are believed to be "better" than others. I live very close to Stanford, and it's sickening to see how many Stanford grads are hired just because of the Stanford name. Do they know more, or are they smarter than other college grads? From my experience, definitely no. A college degree is what you make of it, not what the university gives you. However, Stanford does have a killer art gallery. ;)

Bel-Cam Jos
07-12-2002, 05:58 PM
I was a graduation speaker as a member of Cum Laude in high school, with a GPA of around 3.7. I have an AS in Business Adminstration from Chaffey Community College (GPA of 3.83), a BA in History from California State University San Bernardino (GPA 3.84), single subject teaching credentials in Social Studies and English, plus a supplemental credential in Business. I'm a member of the PHI Kappa Phi and Golden Key honor societies, and the California Council for the Social Studies. I found out my IQ from high school-era testing was 135. (There! I've tooted my own horn enough!) ;)

but...

Since I still ain't a-teachin' yet, it don't mean diddly nuttin'! :( (And I's tryin' to learn kids the english. I ain't knows why I ain't been gived the contract t' learn 'em neither...)

Vortex
07-12-2002, 06:13 PM
Graduated from the University of Minnesota with a BA in Architecture and a Minor in Cultural Studies and Comparitive Lit. (To make it simple, what the meanings behind jokes, advertisments, and movies are, porn vs. nudity, and reasons why people put those Calvin and Hobbie stickers on their car windows, sort of a new aged philosophy...its a worthless, but interesting group of classes)

Short of a minor in German by 2 classes...too bad I can't spell to save my life...

And I'm lucky enough to be working for an architectural firm.

jjreason
07-12-2002, 07:39 PM
I have a Bachelor of Science degree from Queen's University, with a specialization in Biology. The only thing it taught me is that I don't want to be a researcher. 3.5 years after grad I did my 5 month stint at police college, and learned WAY more than I did at University. At least those skills Im putting to use. There's more to be said for "trade" type schools than some people would care to admit - in terms of job satisfaction and applicability in the search for employment.

Exhaust Port
07-12-2002, 10:55 PM
Eye 2 R a Kollege Grad-uate. I Hav the BS to Prooove et. :)

wedgeA
07-13-2002, 12:51 AM
Bob Knight once said something to the effect of:

A BS is exactly what it stands for.
A MS is more of the same.
A Phd is piled higher and deeper.

Don't necessarily like the man or argee with the statement, but I still find it funny.

Jedi Knightrider
07-13-2002, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Jonna
It is the money, plain and simple. I am a writer at heart, but unless you write like Stephen King or Daniel Steel you will end up eating the leather off your shoes. I have taken many different jobs because of that reason. Before my current one, I was a supervisor of payroll and administration for the US Federal Dept. of Commerce. Now that was a sweet job. I got payed lots of cash to sit around and direct other people. Unfortunately, it was only a year assignment and then the office moved. I'm still writing my book, as I probably will be for some time. What's it about? Difficult to explain, but it is more or less like a mixture of Buddhism, Junian psychology, quantum physics, Spinoza logic, NLP (Nero-linguistical Processing), etc.. Sort of like a 'How Find Enlightenment For Dummies' thing. I am getting the impression that by the time I finish it I will be either be completely insane or simply fade from existance. I'll just flip a coin.:crazed:

Sounds along the same lines as Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence in terms of broad depth of subject matter. I can't wait to read it!

Tycho
07-13-2002, 11:20 AM
ERIC RG. I'm in San Diego.

I graduated from San Diego State University with:

BA in Economics
BA in Political Science
minor in Philosophy for ethics in law and government.

I am contracted by the City of San Diego as a consultant for special projects for the Department of Eeconomic Development. But I'm looking for regular full-time work with benefits and job security. I want to either continue working in redevelopment, or do something with social work - but possibly from a political arena. I prefer the public sector because there's twice as much immorality in the private sector. I know - I see who writes the big campaign checks and keep a database of the big donors.

Meanwhile, though, I find myself working with the Transit Board on another special project in an attempt to reduce traffic congestion. We had a chance to do this in LaJolla, and sorry, but I helped convince the Board to do the first pilot project in my own area because as a city we're impacted by budget cuts and I can fund the program with redevelopment money if the state and federal government won't. So enjoy your traffic jams a little longer, but I'll get there if they keep me on the project.

I also do campaign consulting and am frequently all around the city in virtually the majority of all the City Council and Mayoral campaigns. I'm on the staff of 2 now. (They're the 2 that will win. I always do- you can tell these things in advance most of the time... so you can guess who I'm working for I'm sure). It's important to my work that I develop a good report with our local leaders. I'm into the county, state, and federal district offices as well, only not as much.

As a disclaimer, I work on nothing related to the San Diego Chargers or the Padres and the East Village Redevelopment, nor will I for moral reasons. On SeaWorld I have an alternative approach, but I don't like most of what's going on. Finally, due to a conflict of interest with a current assignment, I stay out of issues with our airport expansion or relocation. There's plenty of other stuff to do. Neighborhood commercial district revitalization is most alluring to me, becuase I help save families' small businesses and let people survive in these tough times.

I serve on a local planning board and work additional hours for the Business Improvement District for the San Diego State area.

You can do something with a degree in political science, but my economics background lent me qualifications to be City-certified as employable as a real economic and budgetary advisor. Meanwhile I plan to get my advanced certification in Community Economic Development.

I keep toying with the idea of law school, but I really don't think I'll fit in there. I like thinking outside the box, not following the rules. That's no fun!

Anyway, I'll probably see YOU in the Toys R Us on Morena Blvd. one of these days....

It sounds like you're going into medacine. That's truly impressive!

EricRG
07-13-2002, 01:43 PM
Tycho-
Yeah, I thought I remembered you being from out here. Wow, it's impressive that you are into the local action yet can still keep your moralities above water. Hard to do these days. SeaWorld's a tough one. Actually, I'm doing molecular biology/genetics research, and I hope to eventually have my own lab to do cancer-based research some day. I ended up not going into med school because the whole application process turned me off...too much begging/pleading involved. And too much memorization-based studying in med school, but most of all, too many lawsuit-happy people in this country these days! Plus they pay your way in PhD grad school. Anyway, there's a TRU 5 minutes from where I live in Mira Mesa with a Target right next door, so I do a lot of hunting there.

Dark Knight
07-14-2002, 12:55 AM
I have an Associate in Arts (expenience paper). Will got an BS in history when I save up enough money or win the lottey. :) :D :evil:

Tycho
07-14-2002, 05:15 AM
So, sort of way off topic, but Eric, are you viewing AOTC in the Edwards Cinema up that way? It's one of our only digital theaters and I actually like it better than Mission Valley.

Pick a night, I'll catch the movie with you one more time before it goes out of theaters.

I also have a Master's Degree in Star Wars from the Hasbro Remedial Education Center ;)

scruffziller
07-14-2002, 12:36 PM
3 1/2 years of college only a AA degree. Changed too many majors, wanted to be a socioligist for impractical reasons.

Tycho
07-14-2002, 01:31 PM
Well, Wal*Marts around the country definitely need psychologists that can pull shifts at 6:45 am ;)

Arrogant Arse
07-15-2002, 04:00 PM
Bachelor of Business Education, with a concentration in accounting from the University of Michigan-Dearborn. UM-D is part of the U of M, but is mostly an engineering school. (We can get tickets to games at the Big House!!! I saw Desmond Howard's Heisman pose!!!) Anyway, I'm actually working as an accountant in Detroit.

Deoxyribonucleic
07-15-2002, 04:46 PM
BS in Criminal Justice CSULA; graduated w/honors and just applied to Los Angeles County Coroner's Office for a Coroner Investigator! Wish me luck!

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
07-15-2002, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Deoxyribonucleic
BS in Criminal Justice CSULA; graduated w/honors and just applied to Los Angeles County Coroner's Office for a Coroner Investigator! Wish me luck!

Good Luck! I bet people are dying just to work with you :rolleyes:

DarthBrandon
07-15-2002, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Deoxyribonucleic
BS in Criminal Justice CSULA; graduated w/honors and just applied to Los Angeles County Coroner's Office for a Coroner Investigator! Wish me luck!

Good Luck Deoxyribonucleic, I really do hope you get the job and don't have too much to do, Coroner Investigator wise.

sith_killer_99
07-15-2002, 11:27 PM
Well, most of my education is on the MILITARY side of the house.

Basic Training: FT. Leonard Wood MO.

Advanced Individual Training (Job Specific Training): Fitzsimmons Army Medical Center. Where I was trained as a Biomedical Electronics Repair Specialist. (1 year of fast paced electronics training geared towards medical equipment)

Primary Learership Development Course: NCO Academy Hawaii

H Identifier Course: US Army Instructor Qualified. Tripler Hawaii

Basic Non-Commissioned Officers Course: Ft. Sam Houston

Civilian Education:

I am currently finishing up my Associates in Applied Sciences and will begin work on my BS in Occupational Education from the University of Louisville.

I am hoping to get an instructor slot at the "New School" which was moved to TX after Fitzsimmons closed down.;)

Deoxyribonucleic
07-16-2002, 01:00 AM
Thanks Brandon (how's BoShek?) Lowly Bantha Cleaner for the kind words. Any luck wishing does me good! And I like your joke LBC - that made me chuckle! :)

You seem busy Sith_Killer! Good luck! :)

DarthBrandon
07-16-2002, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Deoxyribonucleic
Thanks Brandon (how's BoShek?) Lowly Bantha Cleaner for the kind words. Any luck wishing does me good! And I like your joke LBC - that made me chuckle! :)

You seem busy Sith_Killer! Good luck! :)

Bo Shek is doing quite well with his friends from the cantina. How is Sandtrooper and crew making out ?

Nice to hear from you again.

Deoxyribonucleic
07-16-2002, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by brandon


Bo Shek is doing quite well with his friends from the cantina. How is Sandtrooper and crew making out ?

Nice to hear from you again.

Sandy is doing fine, he's also hanging out at the cantina, but outside, still trying to find Luke and the droids :)

The others are wrapped up tightly in star cases and displayed for their tri-logo glory :)

still haven't forgot that you want another Boshek but they haven't put them back out yet. As soon as I get hold of one he's yours :)

Good to see you too around these here parts :)

DarthBrandon
07-16-2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Deoxyribonucleic


Sandy is doing fine, he's also hanging out at the cantina, but outside, still trying to find Luke and the droids :)

The others are wrapped up tightly in star cases and displayed for their tri-logo glory :)

still haven't forgot that you want another Boshek but they haven't put them back out yet. As soon as I get hold of one he's yours :)

Good to see you too around these here parts :)

LOL Cool at least they get some sunlight.:)


Thankx I'll keep that in mind ( BoShek ), just let me know what you may need, Tri-Logo or otherwise.

Same to you SWC.:)

plasticfetish
07-16-2002, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by bigbarada
Well, I have 27 credit hours towards an Associates in Art. To bad I've abandoned that degree plan. I'm now going for an Associates in Graphic Art and plan to focus on Web Page Design.

That's good ... I looked at your drawings, they're well done ... get whatever art education you can, it can't REALLY hurt ... but, nothing is better than just finding the time to make art.

:]

I have a BA in art from CSULB. (It was going to be a BFA but the BA allowed me to diversify .. more sculpting, printmaking, etc.)

Jedi Knightrider ... you went to Pratt? I was going to go there, actually did for a summer program ...how did you like it?

I ended up working in film and television for about 7 years.
I've given it up for the time being in order to try and make a go at the "art" thing. (I end up checking these boards and what not while paint dries ... hah.)

I started teaching myself how to write code (HTML, javascript) and use Photoshop, etc. about 6 years ago.

Would like to go back for either a Masters in Art Education or an MFA ... I think I'd like to eventually teach art.

Jedi Knightrider
07-16-2002, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by plasticfetish
Jedi Knightrider ... you went to Pratt? I was going to go there, actually did for a summer program ...how did you like it?


It was cool. By the end I was all ready to leave, though. I actually didn't feel creative for about a year and a half after graduating. I was just that drained. I also didn't really get to do what I wanted to do, I got too caught up in the politics of grading that I didn't feel too free, artistic. I feel that's one major problem with institutionalizing any art form. Here is something that is supposed to be very personal and open to interpretation, and we're supposed to learn how to do it! We're supposed to learn from someone else what we should feel and think and draw or paint or chisel out of marble.

The professors are all working professionals in the field that they teach, so that's cool, except for this one illustration prof i had, who I think was there to sabotage his future competition. Every project that I brought in that room, all I would get is "I don't get it, man..." and then he'd walk away. :greedy: :crazed:

For the most part it was really cool. I was an RA my last year, so I got a HUGE room all to myself. That was really cool!

plasticfetish
07-16-2002, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knightrider


It was cool. By the end I was all ready to leave, though. I actually didn't feel creative for about a year and a half after graduating. I was just that drained. I also didn't really get to do what I wanted to do, I got too caught up in the politics of grading that I didn't feel too free, artistic.

Hah ... that's eerie ... I suppose it's just about the same for all college art students. I graduated in '93 and only started wanting to paint again a few years ago.

I always wondered if it would have been different if I hadn't gone to a "state university" ... it sounds like the process and the ups and downs that go with it are universal.

EricRG
07-16-2002, 11:26 PM
Tycho-

Yeah, I can walk to that Edward's from where I live in about 8 minutes. It's an awesome theatre and I have seen EpII in digital there. It would be cool to see it again if you want...I've even got $5 passes for that place...unfortunately it usually costs $9!

Mandalorian Candidat
07-17-2002, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by plasticfetish

I have a BA in art from CSULB. (It was going to be a BFA but the BA allowed me to diversify .. more sculpting, printmaking, etc.)


All right! A fellow Niner on the forums. I got my BS in chemistry at the Beach in '99, right before they broke ground on the new chemistry/science building. :rolleyes:

I got 3 cheesy AAs in chem., physics, and math at Cerritos College in Norwalk, CA before transferring to Cal State Long Beach.

Right now I'm finishing up my second year in the PhD organic chemistry program at BYU. Then it's off for a post-doc and who knows after that. Maybe I'll make the wonder drug that cures ear hair for middle-aged caucasian males.

OCB
07-17-2002, 05:44 PM
I have a Bachelor of Chemical Engineering from the University of Minnesota, class of 1997. I work as a consultant now and recently was licensed as a Professional Engineer.

As far as going to college, I think there are some fields of study where a college education is quite useless, others are necessary for competency, mostly professionals, Lawyers, Doctors, Pharmacists etc College is not for everyone and I think a lot of them try and make themselves out to be for $$$ they receive in tuition and state and national funding. A lot can be said for community colleges and tech schools as well, it is dependant on the individual as to what path they persue as far as continuing education. Any path will make you a better and more well rounded person in the long run and I highly recommend it.

As far as schools go, there is something to be said for the reputation some schools have, a lot of that is based on faculty and who is teaching what to students...not everyone who graduates from said school is a certified guaranteed genius but for the most part they will be more prepared in general for certain occupations. I saw that a lot when being recruited for jobs, certain companies really liked students from certain schools (Kodak for instace really liked U of Minn ChemE's) and would heavily recruit them based on where they went to school.

plasticfetish
07-18-2002, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Mandalorian Candidat
All right! A fellow Niner on the forums. I got my BS in chemistry at the Beach in '99, right before they broke ground on the new chemistry/science building. :rolleyes:

Yeah ... I can't even go on campus ("the beach") now ... they've built so much new stuff it kinda scares me.

... and ... ooh you went to Cerritos College ... those are some of my favorite buildings around here ... they're those colorful 50's/60's "modern" looking ones.

Congrats on your PhD studies ... see if you can expand that drug to nose and back hairs and you may have a customer here.

:]

Jacen Solo
07-18-2002, 02:43 PM
I graduated from pre-school with a 4.0, made it to 11th grade with a 4.0 and got lazy this year and went down to a 3.0, I'm going to college this fall.

Jedi Juice
07-18-2002, 11:40 PM
Damn, so you went 11 straight years with a 4.0 and then decided to "take it easy" and lose a whole grade point? That's ridiculous!

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
07-19-2002, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Jacen Solo
I graduated from pre-school with a 4.0, made it to 11th grade with a 4.0 and got lazy this year and went down to a 3.0, I'm going to college this fall.

Dang, you got evaluated like that, that early in your schooling. I student taught kindergarten earlier this year and they didn't even assign grades. Students got checkmarks and/or minuses for things like "can tie shoe" "understands letter sounds" "does not eat paste" etc.

I think 1st grade was their first year when they actually got letter grades.

RAVAZ
07-19-2002, 01:23 AM
I have a BA in elementary education. (Teacher) And I'm currently going for a masters degree in Special Education.

r2dee2
07-19-2002, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by RAVAZ
I have a BA in elementary education. (Teacher) And I'm currently going for a masters degree in Special Education.

Bless you, our daughter had spina bifida and hydocephalus and some of her greatest happiness came from the time she spent in school and her caring special ed teachers:)! BLESS YOU!

Vortex
07-19-2002, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Lowly Bantha Cleaner


"does not eat paste" etc.




Dang, I knew I was doing something wrong, but that white paste looked soo good on the popsicle stick making those tissue paper art projects...it looked like frosting...a bit of paste would taste so good right about now.

SWAFMAN
07-19-2002, 08:37 PM
I thought of this thread as I read this letter to the editor (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1520) by Camille Paglia.

here is an excerpt...

...economic competition has led elite American universities to remodel themselves into resorts with every amenity--a cozy, comfy extension of the upper-middle-class family room. Hence students are catered to and infantilized--one reason for the rise and dominance of diluted, feel-good, liberal pabulum on campus. With parents paying gigantic sums for tuition, students expect a "nice" experience in their college years. Hence they are fed clichés and bromides and sheltered from history's harsh realities. (The TLS article was reprinted in my second essay collection, Vamps & Tramps.)

I feel fortunate to be teaching at a pre-professional school (the University of the Arts) where students arrive with strong vocational interests and where the setting (Center City Philadelphia) is one of frank urban realism. There are no misty Arcadian fantasies here, none of the insular, self-indulgent removal so typical of America's plush residential campuses.

The education industry in this country operates without accountability. Price-gouging is so severe, particularly at the elite schools, that it constitutes a major drain on family income and morale in ways that have never been seriously studied. The students themselves are suffering in high school from the constant, destructive pressure of the college application process. At a lecture at Yale University in March, I described today's upper-middle-class students, driven by anxiety and competition, as "caged hamsters on a wheel".

One reason for my intense interest in this subject is that I had a superb education in the 1960s at Harpur College (the State University of New York at Binghamton) at minimal cost. Neither I nor my parents, as New York State residents, were saddled with crippling bills. My graduate education at Yale was also paid for by fellowship.

We need to reexamine every aspect of higher education--from its content to its financing. Since the universities have no incentive to scrutinize themselves and since most members of the media elite have shown only sycophantic collusion with their pricey alma maters, it's up to parents to mobilize and to become a force to be reckoned with on the national scene.

Best wishes,

Camille
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Since this is my first post in this thread, I'll chime-in on the topic:
I was always a year younger in school than most of the kids because my birthday is at the end of December, and I started first grade at 5 instead of 6. I went to 20 schools from Kindergarten to college, due to lots of moving around. I went to five high schools. One was considered the best public school in the nation at the time I was there (I was a national merit semi-finalist at that school), and one was just about the worst (I was a slacker-hippie-freak by then). Unfortunately, I went to them in the wrong order (IMO), going from excellent schools in the beginning to dog-crap North Hollywood High School in "the Valley" L.A. 'burbs, where I feel that I didn't learn a single thing in my senior year. I passed English with an "A" my senior year with 20 unexcused absences. You're supposed to automatically fail with 5 unexcused absences. But the teacher was a drunk (literally, she even had to ride one of those three-wheeled bicycles to work, as she'd lost her license for DUIs), and I was dating her best friend's daughter, so I got an A.

I attended LAVC (Valley College), studying English and film, but never completed a degree program. I had been living on my own since I was 15, and had already been working full time since my Junior year in H.S., and by college time, I was already working at job that was excellent pay for a 17-yr. old (lied about my age to get the job, but later came clean with by boss), and I moved up steadily through the business and had everything I thought I'd ever need for the next 7 years.

That was a terrible mistake that I've regretted the rest of my life. I have excellent skills and experience, and more recently certifications in my profession, and I've been blessed with chances to prove myself and earn jobs and titles and salaries normally reserved only for people with college degrees. But there are so many positions I've wanted and applied for, that I never even got an interview where I could demonstrate my potential, simply because the employer was not considering anyone without a 4-year degree.

I have tremendous respect for all those who've posted here who put up with the hoop-jumping, the butt-kissing, the financial hardships, or none of the above and just partied their way through, but who received their degree(s). Take it from someone who knows the flip-side of it. You may not have learned a single thing in college applicable to your chosen career, but you'll never know how many interviews or opportunities you may never have been granted without that degree.

My sister is the exact opposite of me. She worked her way through college, earning degrees with highest honors in accounting (UCLA) and law (SUSL), and is now studying for the bar. She's already working for one of the best firms in the country, specializing in international corporate tax law. I am SO proud of her! :D