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SID
07-11-2002, 02:58 PM
Come on guy's call hasbro at 1-888-836-7025 and tell a freind to call also and let them know your the paying customer and give your input in an intelligent manor!

In business they see it this way,for every 1 person that call's about a product,500 people feel the same way.
Don't wait for these guy's at hasbro move on anything,they need to be givin a little shove because their so big and beuracratic!

I for one am glad to see the AF toyline coming out of a long coma but its still in the intensive care unit and if we do not take action now this great toyline will be buried forever by hasbro!

Tell them you want MM's revived,AF figures with the vehicles and no cheesy,scaled down AF final product like Dooku's solar sailer. :rolleyes:
Tell them you would like to see the AF toyline extended to other sci-fi licenced properties as well.

I am sick and tired of hasbro's let them eat cake attitude and now please pass the lithium I'm foaming at the mouth.:crazed:

Sakay
07-11-2002, 04:56 PM
We as mm and action fleet fans owe it to one another to speak up, and for once show that there is a following that wishes for Hasbro to make conscience judgments into developement of this line that relate to what the consumer wants. Show concern, this new series will no longer be a great toy, but a collectors edition with no moving parts and figures to manipulate. At this rate of developement we are sure to end up where the pre-posed action figures have gone, no articulation, the fundamental element that makes an action figure a toy.

Doesn't the name Action Fleet convey the idea that this series is not intended for collecting dust on someones shelves. "Hasbro toys should be made to play with!" Put the action back into action fleet!

ac.tion (ak'shen),.n. 1. the process or state of acting or functioning; the state of being active.

Jangu Fett
07-11-2002, 06:38 PM
Darn right, we are the paying costumers. We need to tell them what we what to see, not let them tell us what we HAVE to buy.

Yoda Likes Golf
07-12-2002, 04:26 AM
I cant beleave the lousy excuse hasbro gave for not including figures for the new action fleet i mean its pathetic it would be okay if the new action fleet looked good but quite frankly it looks crap! (apart from the at te)

SID
07-12-2002, 09:25 AM
Too Sir Steve respectfully,

Concerning the the latest news from hasbro,as one guy said in the movie(Aliens) revised quote"maybe you havn't been keeping up on current events but we just got our asses kicked pal!":frus:

shinakuma43
07-12-2002, 10:19 AM
Hasblow should change the name of the line as well. They won't be AFs without the figures and great features. I'm sure little kids won't like them as much and I'll bet some collectors will not buy them either. So the result of trying to save money on the AF production will also reduce profits. So I don't see the point. Why change an awesome line and hope for the best. Sticking with the traditional style would seem to be the way to go. They were probably smoking crack when they made this decision, the money saved is supplying them with even more crack. No other explanation.

Later,
S43

rosel_sampson
07-12-2002, 11:18 AM
change the name to boring fleet. ill make my own action features on them, like crap i tryed playing with the dookie ship and the damn sales broke off, hows that for a stinkin feature ........ also hasbro needs to get real star wars fans to tell them what to make!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cuz now i wanna get a job there and work in their offices and let them know im ****sssed off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

SWAFMAN
07-12-2002, 11:58 AM
Hasbro only bought Galoob in order to eliminate a competitor. They have no interest in the survival of the Galoob legacy product lines, in fact, just the opposite. Hasbro wants to eliminate any choices other than 3-3/4" figures and the vehicles made for them.

This is just my opinion, but it seems to fit the facts. I mean, notice how the Hasbro reply even manages to insert an oblique advertisement for the 3-3/4" line. The subtext of that comment screams to me Hasbro's real priority for SW toys.

JediTricks
07-12-2002, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by SID
Too Sir Steve respectfully,

Concerning the the latest news from hasbro,as one guy said in the movie(Aliens)"hey man I don't mean to rain on your parade but we just got our asses kicked pal!":frus: Just a quicky repsonse to that from me, not Steve. I wrote the story and while I was *extremely* frustrated with what Hasbro was saying, I wanted to get the info out there without cutting this Hasbro tie because I want to get more info about this. I could have gone off in that news post and badmouthed Hasbro for this blunder, but I knew anybody who read it would be able to form their own conclusions from the info itself rather than my somewhat-subdued stuff around it.

SWAFMAN
07-12-2002, 05:31 PM
"...we wanted to concentrate the decoration and cost of the item on detailed recreations of the vehicles themselves, rather than splitting it between the vehicle and a figure. We have also eliminated play features such as firing missiles."



It stands to reason that this also means there won't be any new playsets.

haggie
07-12-2002, 08:04 PM
I seem to be in the vast minority here. I don't care much about the figures or any play features such as goofy missles in the Millennium Falcon and TIE Bomber (they seem so out of place). Then again, the reason I got into AF is because they scale was very similar to the die-cast ships I had as a kid. I flew those things around the forest on my parents acre for years and when I was done playing outside I went in and played with the 3 3/4 figures that my brother and I had. I've always known that the kids probably love the AF play features but I never really considered that the adult collectors would care much for them. I guess this is a reminder that all collectors are different and collect for different reasons.

Everybody in this forum seems to be in an uproar while I'm just happy to see AOTC AFs coming out (even if the Solar Sailor is a piece of crap). Don't get me wrongo, I'm not trying to say that anybody is wrong for being angry. Coke cancelled Mr. Pibb and is now only selling Pibb Xtra and I'm VERY ANGRY so I know how it feels when something you love is taken away (although I did buy up the 34 remaining Mr. Pibb 12 packs I found around town so I do have a stockpile for awhile).

So here is the ultimate questions that my rant was leading too: is the lack of figures and play features a "deal-breaker" to the majority of AF collectors out there? What would it take for each of you to say goodbye to collecting AFs (or are you already to that point)? What is it that you love (or loved) most about AFs?

SID
07-12-2002, 08:15 PM
Someone please explain to HAGGIE why we love MM and AF,I'm out of words right now.

Sakay
07-12-2002, 08:29 PM
In an answer to your question Haggie, its hard to put across my feeling about it, hmmm? Lets say that your a die hard VW beetle fan, you went crazy when you heard that they where bringing the beetle back...... Lets say they did bring it back and it no longer resembled the beetle that you grew to love. Imagine now the little car is no longer rounded but boxy and to top it off the doors are welded shut and you cant get in to drive it? ...... Its the simple fact that Hasbro has changed the Action Fleet line to fit a sales cryteria for a different consumer, maybe we have changed with age but are taste have not. Ones who have been along for the ride of collecting this series, have been let down, without any thought to those of us who have stood by Action Fleets transition from Galoob to Hasbro, we ultimately have been left in the cold. To tell the truth I like what they have done with the series, only, they should have put the collection under a new series name, because it no way resembles the idea behind action fleet itself. If I wanted a featureless toy that was designed to collect dust on a shelf, I would just buy a model.

"when is loyalty rewarded?"
Hasbros All New , "Dust Collectors Fleet"

haggie
07-12-2002, 09:20 PM
I guess the ultimate answer is that all of you just want to see the line continue on as it was, which makes sense. I'd rather see the line continue as it was as well, but ultimately the changes don't bother me. But that's just me. What I'm really wanting to know is what it would take for each of you to not collect the line anymore (or are you already to that point).

I don't actually "play" with my AFs, they just go in a display cabinet. What I love about AFs is that they are a great representation of my favorite aspect of Star Wars: the spaceship designs. For me, the best part about the AF series is that they are able to produce ships that would never see the light of day in the 3 3/4" line (and sell it to me for $10 to boot). Since my AFs are really just display pieces, because I love the ship designs first and foremost, I don't mourn the loss of the play features, although I would rather have figures than not at all. To be honest, I would be in an uproar if they got rid of the display stands. :D

SWAFMAN
07-13-2002, 12:29 AM
As I said in an earlier post, I'll still buy two of anything released under the AF brand - one to keep boxed, and one to display opened. But it doesn't mean I feel any loyalty to, or respect for Hasbro. I don't really play with my ships either, so the loss of action features are not a deal-breaker for me. But I do think the ships will look a lot more sterile, even solely as display pieces, without pilots in the cockpits.

Also, I think I understand and agree with Sakay, that if Hasbo wants to shift Action Fleet away from a play toy aimed at young kids, to a strictly shelf display collectible, then it kind of sucks that they still call it "Action Fleet." I know they prefer to stick with the existing brand identity, but it the name is on the verge of becoming a foolish contradiction.

I know that AF has always sold well among collectors, due to the ships being such quality and detailed representations for such a great price, but what I don't know is whether, by taking away the play-attraction and losing all the sales to the younger kids, the sales to collectors alone can be enough to carry the line to where Hasbro will consider it profitable enough to keep making more?

Yoda Likes Golf
07-13-2002, 01:33 PM
action fleet WAS the last hope for people wanting to create huge clone trooper armys with clone troopers dangling off the side of republic gunships ,just think of the dioramas that could have been created !

SID
07-13-2002, 09:36 PM
YODA LIKES GOLF,

Sorry but hasbro has said to us just buy our 3 3/4 inch toyline because we know whats best for you and consumers at large.:rolleyes:

Bunch of socialist!:rolleyes:

And one more thing,if hasbro is really sincere about sacrificing playability and figure's in exchange for great detail what the hell happened to Dooku's solar sailor?:rolleyes:

What a lie, what deception!:frus:

Jangu Fett
07-14-2002, 10:22 AM
I hope everyone realizes that because of what Hasblow is doing to the AF. We, will not see any Micro Machines. They are trying to turn the AF into a new larger MM line.

Grif
07-14-2002, 02:04 PM
How lazy can Hasbro get ? Two of the neatest things about Action Fleet vehicles has been removed! What will they do next, sell them loose?

SWAFMAN
07-14-2002, 02:51 PM
What will they do next

well, let's see....

No figures means no need for opening cockpits, so why not just make the models MM-like, with no cockpit at all, just with dark paint over the canopy section?

Astromech droids can be done the same way, just a molded, painted bump behind the painted, solid, unopening canopy.

Retractable landing gear is such a waste of money. These ships are only supposed to rest on their stands as displays anyway, not be played with to pretend take-offs and landings, so who needs landing gear?

JediTricks
07-17-2002, 04:44 AM
Haggie, what I'm concerned about is the possibility of losing "play features" such as moving parts and opening doors, those have always been "play features" in Galoob's eyes and if Hasbro dumps those, THAT is what will make me mad. I don't know if that's the case yet though, so I'm asking Hasbro about that issue and some others.

I originally flipped over Action Fleet because the Snowspeeder reminded me of my beloved die cast Snowspeeder I lost in the sand "tundra of Hoth". :D Personally, I could live without missiles like that in the Falcon, but the TIE Bomber's missile is so well-concealed and makes use of an otherwise-hollow section that I have fallen in love with it.

Basically, it feels like Action Fleet fans are being used and abused by Hasbro on this one, they took a great line and halted it, then used its name to make inferior products. And it's not like they're releasing the Series Alpha AAT or Podracer, or the Star Destroyer or Death Star, Boles Roor's or Neva Kee's podracers, Trade Fed shuttle, etc..

And if Hasbro wants to release figureless vehicles, why don't they release the cancelled wave 3 of Ep 1 Die Casts - the Naboo Fighter, Anakin's Podracer, the Gungan Sub, Trade Fed Lander & the MTT? It seems like they're just killing time till we give up and forget entirely about MM (luckily, that'll never happen). Come to think of it, why not retool the old X-rays that never got turned into Die Casts and release them that way as well?

SID
07-17-2002, 01:09 PM
JEDI TRICKS,

Your right no spring loaded missiles were ever needed on the AF to keep them attractive to kids and collectors,the product development money would have been better spent on detail or figures.:D

And your right again;),there is no excuse why the rest of EP-1 AF's and MM's were not released,sure sales of the first wave were slow at first but after awhile sales surpassed the 3 3/4 inch toyline,I remember the merchants couldn't even give away the 3 3/4 inch toyline:rolleyes:,so instead of just prunning the branches hasbro decided to chop the whole freakin tree down! :rolleyes:

I hoped one day I'll see AF Dash Rendar's OUTRIDER to compliment the VIRAGO but with hasbro still in control I'll be playing a harp before that happens.:rolleyes:

jeddah
07-17-2002, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by SID
I hoped one day I'll see AF Dash Rendar's OUTRIDER to complement the VIRAGO but with hasbro still in control I'll be playing a harp before that happens.:rolleyes:

Me too, but I guess I'll be playing my fiddle watching Christendom burn whilst you pluck your Harp. We ForuMMers could almost have an orchestra going by then :D

jeddah

SID
07-17-2002, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by jeddah


Me too, but I guess I'll be playing my fiddle watching Christendom burn whilst you pluck your Harp. We ForuMMers could almost have an orchestra going by then :D

jeddah

Huh,what? I don't think so!:rolleyes:

Jangu Fett
07-17-2002, 10:15 PM
Hasblow wants to save money and concentrate on details and not playablity and figs? Notice they are not worried about the detailing or playablity of the 3 3/4 inch lines. They're so conserned about details, do away with the 3 3/4 inch figures movable joints and weapons.

:eek: Wait they can't the line won't sell,:confused: but, why would Hasblow think the ActionLESS Fleet will?