View Full Version : I don't want to add to the recent hysteria BUT

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
10-12-2001, 10:24 PM
Here is an E-mail I received from a good, reliable friend. Unfortunately, that is all I can say regarding the message I am about to enclose.

Names have been changed/modified to protect the innocent:

>> FYI - I was very skeptical of this e-mail so I called the telephone
> number and it really was Lara K at work. She said that she did write and send the e-mail in reaction to what her girlfriend told her. This could
> >> still be a hoax, but I am taking it a little more seriously knowing
> that
> >> Lara is a real person who admits writing the e-mail and who stands
> behind what she wrote.

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Hi All,
> >>
> >> I think you all know that I don't send out hoaxes and don't do the reactionary thing and send out anything that crosses my path. This one,
> >> however, is a friend of a friend and I've given it enough credibility in my mind that I'm writing it up and sending it out to all of you.
My friend's friend was dating a guy from Afghanistan up until a month ago.
She had a date with him around 9/6 and was stood up. She was
understandably upset and went to his home to find it completely emptied. On 9/10, she
received a letter from her boyfriend explaining that he wished he could tell her why he had left and that he was sorry it had to be like that. The part
worth mentioning is that he BEGGED her not to get on any commercial airlines
on 9/11 and to not to go any malls on Halloween. As soon as everything
happened on the 11th, she called the FBI and has since turned over the letter.
This is not an email that I've received and decided to pass on. This came from a phone conversation with a long-time friend of mine last night. I may be wrong, and I hope I am. However, with one of his warnings being correct and devastating, I'm not willing to take the chance on the second and
wanted to make sure that people I cared about had the same information that I did.
> >>
> >> Lara K
> >> Implementation Specialist
> >> (phone # enclosed, but I left it out)
> >> LK's E-mail
> >> LK's company's E-mail
> >
> P Ridley
> Human Resources
> Department Secretary
> PR's phone #
> PR's workplace fax
> PR's e-mail

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Again, I have no way of knowing this is true or not. I thought that if by small chance it was, than it would be best for all to know. Also, keep in mind the recent attacks on Afghanistan might cause for them to speed up their plans (if this was true) or even delay them (scary thought).

I left the phone #s and E-mails out cuz, this message has probably reached hundreds if not thousands of people by now, but if you want the original, let me know.

Again, I did not create this message, I received this from a trustworthy friend.

10-12-2001, 10:53 PM
I don't know... I'd need actual proof to believe it

Although they will stike back...

10-13-2001, 12:16 AM
I think the term 'better safe than sorry' might apply here. Although I doubt the crappy little mall in my hometown is in any danger (except maybe from bankruptcy since no one shops there); but I would be worried about being at the Mall of the Americas in Minnesota or any similary large malls on Halloween, knowing this. Remember, the FBI had recieved notice that an unprecedented attack was planned on the US two-weeks before Sep 11th. Our security is beefed up now, but it's still not perfect. There are many chinks in the armor that have yet to even be discovered by us. I wouldn't be hysterical about this, but I prefer to error on the side of caution.

Rollo Tomassi
10-13-2001, 08:05 AM
As a now constant viewer of channels like MSNBC and CNN, this meshes in nicely with the warnings from the FBI and the president that "retaliatory attacks are immenent" in the next few weeks. How many malls are in danger? They nabbed a [arab] guy in the next town and it's a fairly small Iowa town, pop. 100,000 or so. Are there sleeper agents all over the country waiting to bomb/poison local area malls? This would mess up our economy on a grand scale if successfully implemented. Who's going to want to go shopping if they are scared to step foot in the mall? Businesses would suffer and close, spreading further economic chaos. I work in a movie theatre in a mall and people are going to be less willing to gather in large groups like an audience because it makes a tastier target for these sickos. Just hope the FBI is on top of this one.

master jedi
10-13-2001, 05:57 PM
My sister lives in Minneapolis and if this is true I sure hope she doesn't decide to go to the Mall of America on Halloween (considering that that e-mail is true).

10-13-2001, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by GNT
I don't know... I'd need actual proof to believe it

I bet if you had told someone on Sep 10th to stay away from the WTC and Pentagon because bad things were going to happen on the 11th, they would have said the exact same thing.

10-13-2001, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by bigbarada
I bet if you had told someone on Sep 10th to stay away from the WTC and Pentagon because bad things were going to happen on the 11th, they would have said the exact same thing.

Probably but it would depend on who they were(friend)?,Could they be trusted? and what tone they used to tell me(do they believe it?)?

Personally If someone of the street told me I wouldn't believe a thing about what they said, But I would stay away from the building

Emperor Howdy
10-14-2001, 03:30 PM
Well, well, well....check THIS out:

Yesterday I was working at an apartment complex when another contractor I know approached me. He said, "Hey, I just got back from another client of mine's place....and the F.B.I. WAS THERE!!".....I said, "Yeah, for what?.....he says, "Because some Japanese chick staying over there was dating this Middle-easterner who just up and disappeared on her....but before he did, he left her a note telling her not to get near any airports on the 11th and to stay away from malls on the 30th." Seeming awfully familiar, I said, "You mean the 31st? Halloween, right?"....he say's, "No, I heard the 30th.....she's giving the statement as we speak!".

All I gotta say is this: Remember the game that one person whispers something into the next person's ear, and by the time it get's back around it's totally different? I'm sure next week it'll be a Ukranian stripper got an answering machine message warning her to stay away from train stations on Thanksgiving and the Space Needle on New Year's. We can't give into this hysteria. What will be will be....I just hope it be nuttin.

10-14-2001, 05:01 PM
By all means go back to your normal lives, to do anything else would be just what these terrorists want. However, BE AWARE is the only advice I would give anyone. There are people out there that hate us and want to kill us simply because we are Americans. They live in this country and you might have even passed one on the street at some point in your life. I'm not trying to panic anyone; but the threat is real and the sooner we accept it, the sooner we can effectively fight it.

In order for this war against terrorism to be effective, we all need to become involved and that includes knowing what to look for in terms of suspicious activity. Some things we cannot control, however there are many precautions each of us can take to make ourselves and those around us a difficult target for terrorism:

The following is taken from an Army Personal Security handbook:

Precautions at an airport:
1. Arrive early, watch for suspicious activity
2. Look for nervous passengers who maintain eye contact with others from a distance. Observe what people are carrying. Note behavior not consistent with that of others in the area.
3. No matter where you are in the terminal, identify objects suitable for cover in the event of attack; pillars, trash cans, luggage, large planters, counters, and furniture can provide protection.
4. Don't linger near open public areas. Quickly transit waiting rooms, commercial shops, and restaurants.
5. Proceed through security checkpoints as soon as possible.
6. Avoid secluded areas that provide concealment for attackers.
7. Be aware of unattended baggage anywhere in the terminal.
8. Be extremely observant of your personal carry-on luggage. Luggage not properly guarded provides an opportunity for a terrorist to place an object or device in it.
9. Observe the baggage claim area from a distance. Do not retrieve your bags until the crowd clears. Proceed to the customs lines at the edge of the crowd.
10. Report suspicious activity to the airport security personnel.

Mail or Packages:
1. Suspicious characteristics to look for include:
--a. an unusual or unknown place of origin
--b. no return address
--c. an excessive amount of postage
--d. abnormal or unusual size
--e. oily stains on the package
--f. wires or strings protruding from or attached to an item
--g. incorrect spelling on the package label
--h. differing return address and postmark
--i. appearance of foreign style handwriting
--j. peculiar odor (many explosives used by terrorists smell like shoe polish or almonds)
--k. unusual weight
--l. uneven balance or shape
2. Never touch or move a suspicious package or letter.
3. Do not cut tape, strings, or other wrappings on a suspect package or immerse a suspected letter or package in water. Either action could cause and explosive device to detonate.
4. Report any suspicious packages or mail to security officials immediately.

General ways to protect yourself, especially when in foreign countries:
1. Keep a low profile. Your dress, conduct and mannerisms should not attract attention. Make an effort to blend into the local environment. Avoid publicity and don't go out in large groups. Stay away from civil disturbances and demonstrations.

2. Be Unpredictable. Vary your route to and from work and the time you leave and return home. Vary the way you dress. Don't exercise alone. Don't exercise at the same time and place each day, or on deserted streets, or country roads. Let people close to you know where you are going, what you'll be doing, and when you should be back.

3. Be Very Alert. Watch for anything suspicious or out of place. Don't give personal information over the telephone. If you think you are being followed, go to a preselected secure area. Imediately report the incident to the authorities. If overseas, report the incident to the nearest US Embassy.

If you are being followed in your car, then run red lights or other obvious traffic violations to attract attention to yourself and, consequently, your pursuer. Or go to a well-lit public area (like a gas station) and begin honking your horn or yelling to draw attention to yourself and your pursuer. (this was taken from a crime-prevention class)

The best weapon against terrorism is knowledge. Like I said before, many things you cannot prevent or foresee. However, we can all do our part to make the terrorists' job as difficult and unrewarding as possible.

10-15-2001, 01:08 AM
Yeah, my wife heard this rumor too. I told her "Well, if you heard it on the Internet, then it MUST be true." I wouldn't put too much faith in this rumor. I worry a lot more about what Bin Laden & company are planning for the big show in Salt Lake a few months from now.

10-15-2001, 10:05 AM
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with this girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.