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Thrawn
07-28-2002, 01:58 AM
This month the 1 billionth DVD shipped in 5 years of the formats' existance. This is twice as fast as it took VHS to reach this milestone.

DVD is the best thing to happen to movies - ever.
My collection is right around 150 and growing every week.

Beast
07-28-2002, 02:06 AM
Finally somthing that me and Thrawn can agree on. DVD is the best thing to happen to movies, since laserdiscs. Nice collection there Thrawn, you should use DVDProfiler and post a link to your collection like Caesar and I have. Feel free to post in the Top 10 DVD thread as well. :)

What you think of August-December's releases. Really gonna take a hit on my Star Wars collection with so many quality discs coming out during that period. Geez, I am afraid to even list them, there are so many. And the worst part, alot of them are more expensive gift sets. :eek:

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

LTBasker
07-28-2002, 02:16 AM
DVDs were the best thing to happen to movies.
HDTVs becoming standard tvs would be the best thing to happen to DVDs.

;) (My TV makes even a DVD look bad quality sometimes)

2-1B
07-28-2002, 02:48 AM
Thrawn, should I pencil you in for an "I Spy" preorder for your Malcom collection? :D

JediTricks
07-28-2002, 04:25 AM
IMO, home video is one of the WORST things to happen to movies but good for lazier audiences.

This 1 billion mark being reached twice as fast isn't as amazing is it sounds to me, the first few years of VHS were almost exclusively about the rental market where tapes were retailing for $80 or more. Also, thanks to the recordability of VHS, people were simply making their own libraries from movies off cable television rather than buying prerecorded versions.

Beast
07-28-2002, 04:35 AM
How is it the worst thing to happen to movies? Would you prefer we go back to a time where movies opened in theaters, ran their run and then disapeered forever. No one could watch the films unless they were rich and owned a theater in their homes, and could afford the films? That sounds like the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. And you didn't even back up your statement with an argument to try to explain why you thought that way. You just made a broad generalized statement, with no facts at all. :rolleyes:

Home Video has allowed many excellent pictures that wouldn't have had a chance at the theater to actually get popular on the video market. Just think of all the films that ended quickly in the theater because they couldn't find an audience, only to become cult classics on video. JT, sorry but I don't buy the argument that says it was the worst thing ever to happen to movies. That would be Pan and Scan. Maybe if you want to expand your argument into an actual reason why you thought that, it would help, maybe. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
07-28-2002, 05:08 AM
150 DVD's, wow, I thought I was doing well with 21, does this mean you collect all DVD's not just ones that you like?

Beast
07-28-2002, 05:26 AM
Jek Porky, it's not to hard to collect 150 DVD's. That's pretty much a drop in the bucket since in region 1 alone there are around 10's of thousands of titles with 50-100 more comming out every month. I'm pushing around 100+ at the moment, and I would have alot more, if I didn't collect Star Wars figures. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Obi-Don
07-28-2002, 05:54 AM
I would agree that home viewing has helped the movie market. Yes after a person buys the movie that person has no need of going to the theater to see anymore. But a lot of people don't go anymore for what ever the reason. DVDs and tapes are just another way to reach that market. I would much rather view a movie at home where I can enjoy it in peace. Stop it to go to the bathroom or get a snack. You also don't have to deal with those jerks who like to talk or stand up with thier friends. The worst time I had at a theater was when Rocky IV came out. KIds and others were standing talking and acting like it was party. That is the main reason I'm for the home viewing. I still go to the theater with family but only at times when there is a small crowd.

Jek Porky 2002
07-28-2002, 11:48 AM
But I only buy DVD's that I really like, do you just buy any DVD's?

Beast
07-28-2002, 11:56 AM
I only buy DVD's I really like also. I guess I just have varied tastes. Most of my collection revolves around horror and sci-fi, but I have quite a few comedies and dramas salted in the mix as well. Not to mention DVD releases of TV shows. I know people on-line that have between 700-1000, so I don't think I'm all that bad. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
07-28-2002, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
I know people on-line that have between 700-1000, so I don't think I'm all that bad. :)

If I had time to watch movies all the time I'd probably have about 700-1000 DVDs, but for now I'll just settle for my 78 DVDs :zzz:.

PENDO!

Beast
07-28-2002, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Pendo
If I had time to watch movies all the time I'd probably have about 700-1000 DVDs, but for now I'll just settle for my 78 DVDs :zzz:.
PENDO!
The sad part about most of these people, is they don't even watch half of what they own. They got dragged into the collecting mentality and just buy. That's another reason why I don't consider myself all that bad. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
07-28-2002, 12:13 PM
Can people start to post there collections, or the best parts, here,

My collection looks like this:
Austin Powers: International Man Of Mystery
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
Big Brother Uncut
Big Brother Uncut 2
Charlie's Angels
Futurama Season 1
Gladiator
Jurassic Park
The Lost World
Jurassic Park III
Road Trip
Shrek
Star Wars Episode I
The League Of Gentlemen Series 1
The League Of Gentlemen Series 2
The League Of Gentlemen Live
There's Something About Mary
The Simpsons Season 1
The Simpsons Season 2
The Simpsons Film Festival
The Simpsons Backstage Pass
X-Men

That's my full collection.

Jek Porky 2002
07-28-2002, 12:14 PM
Oh, I missed off South Park Bigger Longer and Uncut

Pendo
07-28-2002, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
Can people start to post there collections, or the best parts, here

These are the DVDs in my collection that I watch the most:
Star Wars Episode I
Terminator 1 and 2
Rocky 1 - 5
Blackadder series I, II, III and IV
Blackadder Back and Forth
Harry Potter
Father Ted sereis 1, 2 and 3
Austin Powers 1 and 2
Jurassic Park 1, 2 and 3
All James Bond films (including Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again)
The Best of So Graham Norton
Bad Girls series 1, 2 and 3
American Pie 1 and 2
True Lies

They're the ones I watch the most, I've probably missed a few out.

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
07-28-2002, 12:28 PM
What is the best of So Graham Norton like, he has got to be the most witty person on british television.

Pendo
07-28-2002, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
What is the best of So Graham Norton like, he has got to be the most witty person on british television.

It is HILLARIOUS!!! Words cannot describe how funny it is! If you have an extra 15 on you it is worth buying! It starts off with the audience and all the funniest stories. It then has sections on the internet and phone calls, Betty and Milles O'Keefe! :D

The best part is the phone call where the fella is talking "hands free" to Joan Collins :sur:.

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
07-28-2002, 12:42 PM
How old is that DVD now?

Jek Porky 2002
07-28-2002, 12:50 PM
Another question, what do you think of V. Graham Norton, I think it's good but not as good as 'so'. I don't know what there going to talk about now that Big Brother's finished.

Thrawn
07-28-2002, 01:58 PM
JJB

I haven't made a list yet - since the collection is growing so much.
I am most likely putting aside a Herzog 6 Disc set, Nosferatu 2 disc set, Children of the Corn 1+2, Highlander 3, Mad Monster Party and more in the next week or two.

JT
I know where you are coming from. He is a theater purist - movies were meant to be seen on the big screen. I agree - to a point. I was just at a film festival where they had some brand spanking new prints of 35mm films that were 25-30 years old. Absolutely glorious - DVD quality. Now picture that same print transferred to DVD with 2 hours of extras - it just got better.

Seeing new movies in the theater is practically a waste. Since it will be same quality on DVD with hours of extras in only a few months. For example - Spider-man release in November.

Casear
Absotootly! I just got Mr. Magoo for $5 - about all it's worth. And Firestarter 2, The Void, Gagnster No. 1, Moon 44, etc.

Jek
I have access to cheap films so I'm not even really spending real money. Like JT said $80 for a VHS 20 years ago compared to $3-5 for DVD R0 stuff is insane.
I collect lots of old horror films for example. How can you beat a masked mexican wrestler from the 60s who dabbles as a crime fighter - dubbed into English AND he takes breaks from solving the crimes to go wrestle (that's how he makes a living) - and they show they whole matches!! NOW that's entertainment!?

Beast
07-28-2002, 02:11 PM
This has got to be one of the best years ever for DVD releases. All these old catalog titles finally getting dusted off and released is great. E.T., Clash of the Titans, and Back to the Future Trilogy knock more often requested films off the waiting list. Now we just need the Indiana Jones Trology and the OT. :)

Oh, I prefer a theatrical presentation also. But there is somthing to about relaxing at home with some inexpensive pop and popcorn and enjoy a film. Especially with so many old classics getting new transfers and extras. Frankly if it wasn't for the Home Video market, alot of films would have totally rotted away by now.

Masked Mexican Wrestling Superhero? That would be El Santo wouldn't it? See if you can find a copy of Samson vs. The Vampire Women. I think that was the U.S. title. It was atleast the title that they had on the movie that was shown on MST3K. It's so bad that it's good. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

2-1B
07-28-2002, 02:21 PM
Well, I'm at around 275 DVDs, and I actually sold off a chunk of my collection awhile back, I was buying WAYYYYYY too many. :(

I've cut back my purchases considerably, but last night I just HAD to buy that Made/Swingers 2pack for $15 at Best Buy. :D

I use the same DVD Profiler system that JJB uses, I recommend it highly . . . but I won't post a link, I would need to go over it with you. :D Everything has a story, and I would want to explain the "hows and whys" of certain titles . . .
:)

Beast
07-28-2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Caesar
I use the same DVD Profiler system that JJB uses, I recommend it highly . . . but I won't post a link, I would need to go over it with you. :D Everything has a story, and I would want to explain the "hows and whys" of certain titles . . . :)
Mwahaha, I still have a link to your collection. I'll sell it to anyone that wants it for.... *pinkie to mouth* One Million Dollars! :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

2-1B
07-28-2002, 02:33 PM
Hey JJB, I forgot to ask, does that 10,000 + total include porn? I'm serious, because I noticed at Best Buy they now encase their softcore stuff . . . but I know there's a lot of oddball stuff out there, stuff that isn't "mainstream." And I guess I would add to that all of the silly documentaries and knock off titles I see in the under $10 categories. :D

Beast
07-28-2002, 02:39 PM
Well, I'm going by the number in the DVDprofiler interface. It says 66,000+. But they list some movies multiple times. So it's likely 30-40,000. And yes, DVDProfiler includes pornogrophy. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
07-28-2002, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
How old is that DVD now?

It's about a year old. It came out just before the end of So Graham Norton.


Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
Another question, what do you think of V. Graham Norton, I think it's good but not as good as 'so'. I don't know what there going to talk about now that Big Brother's finished.

I think "V" is good because it's on every weekday, you don't have to wait for Friday. But each episode doesn't last as long as "So" did. And because they are all filmed an hour before their air time they can't take as many risks because there isn't enough time to edit out the stuff that they can't show on British TV. The biggest risk I've seen them take was the other night with the person who can play a keyboard with his...:eek:NEVER MIND...

Most people probably won't know what we're talking about so I'll get back on the topic... I've seen JJB's DVD list on DVDprofiler but can anyone tell me any more information on what you do on it?

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
07-28-2002, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Pendo
Most people probably won't know what we're talking about so I'll get back on the topic...PENDO!

Yes, we must never talk of this... Graham again, or his obscure key board playing guests. Ahh, go on then, one more thing, what about that woman that could play the flute with her... well... I'll leave that to you and your imagination!

Pendo
07-28-2002, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
Yes, we must never talk of this... Graham again, or his obscure key board playing guests. Ahh, go on then, one more thing, what about that woman that could play the flute with her... well... I'll leave that to you and your imagination!

LOL. I'm sensing this woman goes to Band Camp :p.

OK, never mention this again...:dead:

PENDO!

2-1B
07-28-2002, 06:33 PM
Pendo,
I guess I use Profiler mainly for insurance reasons . . . it keeps a nice inventory on my hard drive, but since I loaded it to the web I have remote access to it . . . so if something happens I can always access my records.

It looks to be a means of renting DVDs too, there are different features that don't make alot of sense to me, but it works most efficiently off UPC numbers - I wonder if someone couldn't add a scanner to their system to rent out DVDs? (as in price scanner, not desktop scanner :rolleyes: :D )

I don't use it on a day to day basis or anything, and I'm not a showoff like JJB. :p
I just found a use for it and enjoyed messing around with it since it's free. :)

DarthBrandon
07-28-2002, 06:46 PM
I love DVD's way more than VHS, but can anyone guess why I only have 15 DVD's and 200 plus VHS movies. Before anyone replies, it's not the money factor, just two reasons and that's it.

darthvyn
07-28-2002, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by brandon
I love DVD's way more than VHS, but can anyone guess why I only have 15 DVD's and 200 plus VHS movies. Before anyone replies, it's not the money factor, just two reasons and that's it.

you don't want to buy all your movies over again just yet?

DarthBrandon
07-28-2002, 07:42 PM
That's one done and one more to go. Next answer please.

2-1B
07-28-2002, 08:36 PM
because you don't have a DVD player? :D

DarthBrandon
07-28-2002, 08:42 PM
Nope, I have a DVD player. I don't want to buy all my VHS movies over again right now is one, and I don't buy movies unless I really like them a lot and will watch them over and over again.

JediTricks
07-29-2002, 12:57 AM
JJB, after spending a few years working in a video store and talking to people about movies and the home market and all this entails, this is how I feel about it:
Stagnation - people buy movies and watch them over and over rather than going out and seeing new releases in theaters.
Studios - thanks to the home market, studios can greenlight a big-budget star vehicle no matter how bad it is because they know that as long as it has a big opening weekend, it'll make back any ticket losses on the international and domestic home markets; so money that could have gone to make 5 good films of modest budgets instead gets piled on garbage like Wild Wild West and Speed 2.
Shorter Runs - because audiences know a film will be on home video within 9 months of release, they don't go to see it in theaters or see it only once which means it's in theaters for a shorter time; this forces theaters to raise ticket and concession prices which fuels the cycle.
Compromise of Quality including Directors' Vision - the home market takes away much of what the director was counting on when he made his film, sound quality, visual quality, and pacing are all taken out of the director's control and left in the hands of the audience, the majority of which would choose pan & scan over widescreen because their TVs aren't big enough to show off quality side details and they think they are somehow "losing" or "covering up" part of the image thanks to "those bars on the top and the bottom of the screen".
That's how I feel about it. The home market does have it's place and does have some worthwhile additions, but I feel that it's the worst thing to happen to the cinema since the advent of the mall mini-multiplex.


Thrawn, "DVD quality" is a misnomer I think, I've spent the past few days watching the handful of DVDs I own and none of them are "superbit", so when I zoom in the image quality is sacrificed for extras or for whatever reason and it could be cleaner (I'm not comparing it to VHS, just to film). With quality 35 and even 70mm prints, you really can't do much better (I'm lucky, I've seen more than my fair share of 70mm prints like the Blade Runner 70mm that is super rare). I'd rather see Spider-Man 5 more times on the big screen than 50 more at home on TV (reflected light is my choice of image rather than the TV's projected light).

Beast
07-29-2002, 01:18 AM
Stagnation - That is a silly argument. Most people that watch videos still see movies in the theaters. And so what if they watch a movie over and over again. I rather doubt that you have only watched the Star Trek or Star Wars films once on home video.

Studios - Movies like that would get made anyway. Look at the 1950's, 1960's, and 1970's to see proof of that. There were just as many stinkburgers coming out of hollywood then, as there is today. So the argument that Home Video is the cause of it, is silly.

Shorter Runs - I agree somewhat with this, but it doesn't hurt box office totals anymore then TV ever did. Ticket prices average the same with inflation that they have since the beginning. Only in citys like where you live, do they bend you over on ticket prices.

Compromise of Quality - Only comprimise of quality or of the director's vision is pan and scan. Most director's supervise the transfer to DVD. Look at titles like Ridley Scott's Legend, and that was butchered by the studio for the "theatrical release" that was able to be restored on video. Not to mention many theaters across the country don't have picture or sound standards for their theaters anyway.

Besides, weren't you the one complaining just recently that Peter Jackson should have placed a intermission in LOTR's. Sounds like you think yourself an expert enough, that you know better how to pace the film then the director.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

scruffziller
07-29-2002, 05:28 AM
Thank God I decided to get the STAR TREK NG on DVD now after collecting the series at $25 a tape, 2 episodes per for the last 3 years. I figured that the amount I would spend on the remaining series in vidjo tape would be about the same if I bought the whold series on DVD, so I did, or will, waiting for season 4. Need to get that 300 disc DVD player from SONY!!:D

Beast
07-29-2002, 05:38 AM
Mmmmm, 300 disc DVD player. Pardon me while I drool all over the forums. I would love to get one of those. I'm running out of space to store my discs already. May want to try tossing those VHS tapes on Ebay, may help pay for the DVD purchases. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

scruffziller
07-29-2002, 06:31 AM
Yea it's just like those 300-500 or whatever size they got now, but with DVDs and you can put CDs in there as well. Sort of a multimedia center. They use to be $700 when they first came out. I would wait, it may get bigger in size300 disc DVD (http://www.sonystyle.com/home/item.jsp?hierc=9686x8635x8701&catid=&itemid=7415)

Mandalorian Candidat
07-29-2002, 04:31 PM
I have to say that if DVD were a person, namely female, I would marry it. Wait, before you call the perv squad on me let me explain.

I just love the whole idea behind them. The visual quality is so much better than videotapes. Everything just looks so much better. Especially on an older cassette that you've viewed several times.

Besides that they're tougher to hurt, damage, and scratch. I have tapes straight from the retailer that just have some wacky stuff going on where there's a line down the middle of the screen or snow at the bottom. I take care of all my discs so I've never seen a visual defect in any movie. Plus I never worry that they'll spontaneously break in the player unlike my THX ANH tape which did several years ago.

The biggest thing that I love about the format are the hyperlink format they have. Pick whatever scene you want, jump to hidden stuff or the making of scenes (like on the Matrix disc), find easter eggs, watch commentaries (even with lame-o people like Rick McCallum), even play games in the DVD-ROM format.

I'm surprised they've only sold 1 billion to this point. It's such a fantastic format, I don't know where they'd go from here except for making a smaller disc or one that could hold twice or thrice the content.

Another thing I like is that these things take up about half the amount of room that videos do. Even less if you throw away the case. I look at all the Disney videos we have and I just want to chuck them out and replace them (once they go on sale of course).

JT, I agree with you somewhat on the effect of home video on the avg. length of feature film runs. About 80% of the movie previews I see make me either not want to see them at all or perhaps just wait until it's in the $1 theatre or the rental outlets. I imagine that there are many people like me who don't go to the movies a whole lot so we discriminate more on what we see. It makes it much easier not to see a movie that I'm lukewarm about because I know it'll come out soon on DVD so I can rent or borrow it. That's why I've seen EP2 half as many times in the cinema as EP1. I didn't even see Harry Potter until it was in the $1 theatre cause it didn't look that great to me.

The one major negative thing that the home video revolution has spawned are these extremely awful Disney movies. I cringe every time a "Return of Jafar" or "Pinocchio IX: Revenge of Gepetto" is released and ads are run ad nauseum on TV. The latest one, Tarzan and Jane, runs nonstop at my local Target on a TV/VCR combo right by the SW aisle. I hate going in there and watching all the brainwashed kids sit listless in front of the screen watching this drivel. Disney has bastardized the whole premise of getting good movies and enjoying them in your home. If it weren't for good stuff like Robotech or historical features on cable, I would hope that no single straight-to-video would ever be made again.

I hope, no, I pray that no one on this forum has a wife who insists on buying every freaking video with a Disney logo on it. If not, my condolences.

Lobito
07-29-2002, 07:11 PM
1 Billion DVD's released...well, that doesnt mean there are 1 billion movies in DVD...i think they are counting all that has been made in that format, like sports DVD'S, Music Videos, etc. Anyway...its impossible to accumulate that quantity. All in all, i find myself buying lots of DVD's and cant wait till the OT and the Indy trilogy get released in DVD.

Exhaust Port
07-29-2002, 11:59 PM
1 Billion done and we haven't even scratched the surface of the movie possibilities. I really want to see a Letterbox version of "A Christmas Story." It's the best holiday movie out there and it deserves so much better than a Pan & Scan. :(

JediTricks
07-30-2002, 01:04 AM
1 billion discs, NOT titles. A billion is a thousand million, that'd be like 1 in every 5 people on the entire planet buying a dvd.

scruffziller
07-30-2002, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by Lobito
1 Billion DVD's released...well, that doesnt mean there are 1 billion movies in DVD...i think they are counting all that has been made in that format, like sports DVD'S, Music Videos, etc. Anyway...its impossible to accumulate that quantity. All in all, i find myself buying lots of DVD's and cant wait till the OT and the Indy trilogy get released in DVD.
Now does that include count on actuall units or titles.
Such as SW EPS1 being released as 2 disc unit. Is that counted as 1 or 2 on that Billion count? Is that what you mean Jedi Tricks?

Exhaust Port
07-30-2002, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by JediTricks
1 billion discs, NOT titles. A billion is a thousand million, that'd be like 1 in every 5 people on the entire planet buying a dvd.

That's what I meant. Looking back on my post I seemed to imply that their were 1 Billion titles.

SirSteve
07-30-2002, 12:12 PM
DVD's are great! I haven't used my VCR in over 2 years! I also started designing my dedicated 10x20 home theater and cannot wait to get it done so I can watch about 40 of my DVD's I have yet to see. It's going to be great! 6 luxary theater rocking seats with an 84" screen! :) I may start a web site dedicated to it's construction...

Lobito
07-30-2002, 02:54 PM
A billion is a thousand million

Funny that what we understand billion in here (Mexico and other countries) as 1 million millions. Not 1 thousand millions. Any clue why is this??? Its like the Lime and Lemon thing...:D

JediTricks
07-31-2002, 12:32 AM
Scruff, I bet it's pure discs so sets like Ep 1 and Monty Python & the Holy Grail would count as 2 discs each, but I dunno for sure. Good question.

I just asked Thrawn, he said units and not discs, so EP 1 and MP&THG would be 1 DVD unit. However, that still doesn't mean 1 billion titles... I'm confused. :crazed:



Originally posted by Lobito
Funny that what we understand billion in here (Mexico and other countries) as 1 million millions. Not 1 thousand millions. Any clue why is this??? Its like the Lime and Lemon thing...:D That is strange! I had no idea, never knew this; according to dictionary.com, it's a number that in the US is a one followed by nine zeroes (1,000,000,000), while in Great Britain it's a one followed by twelve zeroes (1,000,000,000,000). So I guess that's why Mexico and other countries say that, because by the UK definition, that would be a million million. However, in this thread, when we say "billion" it's the US meaning.