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Beast
08-01-2002, 02:57 AM
StarWars.Com has finally made it official. Here is the full specs, release date and the DVD case. Sadly Lucasfilm is also releasing a Full Frame Version of it on DVD, in addition to the Widescreen version. :mad: :( Mods, please note that I am making this a new thread, because this is offical from Lucasfilm. It also saves people having to dig thru the large DVD thread that we have, just to get to the info. With that said, enjoy! :D

http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2002/08/news20020801.html

Episode II On DVD & VHS - August 01, 2002

On November 12, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will begin the North American release of Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones on DVD and VHS home video.

The first major motion picture captured and created directly from the digital source and digitally mastered by THX, the Episode II DVD allows fans the chance to relive the adventure in the way Writer/Director George Lucas meant it to be seen, with spectacular digital clarity.

Here's what the two-disc DVD set - available in both Anamorphic Widescreen (Aspect Ratio 2.35:1) and Fullscreen editions - will feature:

Attack of the Clones, mastered directly from the digital source by THX for superior sound and picture quality, presented in Dolby 5.1 Surround EX (English) and Dolby 2.0 Surround (English, Spanish and French)

Audio commentary by Writer-Director George Lucas; Producer Rick McCallum; Editor and Sound Designer Ben Burtt; Visual Effects Supervisors Pablo Helman, John Knoll and Ben Snow; and Animation Supervisor Rob Coleman, offering personal insights into the making of the film.

Eight deleted scenes created for the DVD release, with introductions by George Lucas, Rick McCallum and Ben Burtt

"From Puppets to Pixels," an all-new, full-length documentary that tracks the revolution in digital character animation, featuring the creation of the digital Yoda, Dexter Jettster and more

"State of the Art: The Previsualization of Episode II," an all-new documentary featuring never-before-seen Animatics of Episode II

Ben Burtt and his team explain the process of creating the sound for Episode II in the all-new documentary "Films Are Not Released; They Escape"

Three behind-the-scenes featurettes exploring Episode II's storyline, action scenes and love story

All 12 parts of "Making Episode II," the web documentaries that first appeared here at starwars.com

The "Across the Stars" music video featuring John Williams

Downloaded by millions from starwars.com, the original theatrical teaser and launch trailers, plus 12 TV spots

Galleries of theatrical posters, print campaign from around the world, and never-before-seen production photos

An Episode II visual effects breakdown montage from Industrial Light & Magic

HoloNet News website

DVD-ROM weblink to exclusive Star Wars content

Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones Special Edition VHS includes six deleted scenes and a "Star Wars Connections" featurette hosted by R2-D2 and C-3PO, who explain the Star Wars story to new fans of the series.

The Attack of the Clones DVD will retail for $29.98 ($41.98 in Canada), while the VHS format will retail for $24.98 ($28.98 in Canada).

Consumers can begin ordering on August 14. Keep checking starwars.com for more updates on this exciting upcoming release.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Beast
08-01-2002, 02:59 AM
Here is the Fullscreen Case (Boo!) :(

Beast
08-01-2002, 03:01 AM
Here is the VHS Box. Just for you, BigB. :)

Beast
08-01-2002, 03:03 AM
And finally, a nice side by side comparison of the E1 and E2 DVD. :)

2-1B
08-01-2002, 03:06 AM
I'm buying the Full Screen version. I hate it when they cut off the top and bottom and put that box around the picture.

rynobot
08-01-2002, 03:17 AM
u mean there are two dvds, one wide screen the other pan and scan?

wedgeA
08-01-2002, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by Caesar
I'm buying the Full Screen version. I hate it when they cut off the top and bottom and put that box around the picture.

God I hope you're joking, otherwise you're in for a session with JarJarBinks and his Nerf Crotch Bat. :)

Beast
08-01-2002, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by rynobot
u mean there are two dvds, one wide screen the other pan and scan?
Yes, Lucas is releasing Episode II both ways. I think thats a bad idea. With it only being released in Widescreen, like Episode 1 was, people had to accept the widescreen. Catering to the people that hate widescreen is a huge mistake, and will continue to degrade the DVD industry. Movies, especially ones filmed in 2.35:1 aspect ratio, should only be seen as the director originally intended, widescreen. They should have left the Full Frame edition to VHS. What's next, a Full Frame release of E1? :(

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

rynobot
08-01-2002, 03:43 AM
now, I have to make sure I buy the right one. This is a crock, the charge an outrages amount for damn DVD and then don't supprot both versions on it. What next are they gonna release?

2-1B
08-01-2002, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
They should have left the Full Frame edition to VHS. What's next, a Full Frame release of E1? :(


Why not? :D

Alright, I'm done kidding around. Great features and such, but I am most curious to learn of the deleted scenes. Man, they better show us some footage of Padme's family! :mad: Geonosian kangaroo court would be great too, and after those two scenes I don't care what else they choose to add. :)

Also, I know I'm being picky here - but since they're going for uniformity in the DVD cases (which I fully support) they can go ahead and clean up that banner that says "widescreen" and "full screen" . . . It jumps from "Every Saga has a beginning" to "widescreen." That's silly! :stupid:

Since they want to release both versions :rolleyes: , they should restrict the screen ratio info to stickers on the outside of the wrapper. :)

The Connections vid is VHS exclusive?

Beast
08-01-2002, 03:59 AM
It's hard to stick both the Widescreen and Fullscreen cuts onto a DVD, so releasing 2 seperate versions is really the best option. Even if I think it's a horrible idea, it's better then cramming them into the same set. Plus the more people that buy the Widescreen over the FullScreen version, will show movie companies what is prefered.

Just look at Lord of the Rings, it has both a WS and FS release. According to pre-order numbers I am reading, the Widescreen copies are currently 75% of the total orders, and Fullscreen only around 25%. That's good for us OAR supporters, it shows the studio that Widescreen is prefered. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Geonosian
08-01-2002, 04:13 AM
Awesome!
Is that the same relese date in Australia?

2-1B
08-01-2002, 04:15 AM
Nope, just North America for now. :(

Beast
08-01-2002, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by Geonosian
Awesome! Is that the same relese date in Australia?
Australian DVD releases are usually always on Wednesdays. I read on one of my DVD forums that it's supposed to come out November 13th there. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Geonosian
08-01-2002, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by Caesar


Why not? :D

Alright, I'm done kidding around. Great features and such, but I am most curious to learn of the deleted scenes. Man, they better show us some footage of Padme's family! :mad: Geonosian kangaroo court would be great too, and after those two scenes I don't care what else they choose to add. :)

Also, I know I'm being picky here - but since they're going for uniformity in the DVD cases (which I fully support) they can go ahead and clean up that banner that says "widescreen" and "full screen" . . . It jumps from "Every Saga has a beginning" to "widescreen." That's silly! :stupid:

Since they want to release both versions :rolleyes: , they should restrict the screen ratio info to stickers on the outside of the wrapper. :)

The Connections vid is VHS exclusive? Ceasar what do you mean by "Geonosian kangaroo court"?
Thanks for the info JarJar.

2-1B
08-01-2002, 04:29 AM
Geonosian,

"kangaroo court" is used to describe a situation in which a person is brought up on charges and not given a fair trial. The charges themselves may be trumped up, or even if they bear some merit, there might exist clear disregard for ethics, honesty, and the law.

Therefore, in this context I am referring to the deleted scene in which Padme and Anakin are tried for espionage and sentenced to death by Poggle the Lesser while being manipulated by Dooku. :)

Geonosian
08-01-2002, 04:37 AM
I see. Yeah that scene will ROCK!
But one thing about that scene....will Poggle speal English or Geonosianish?

Beast
08-01-2002, 04:42 AM
Caesar, I am sure that that scene will be one of the 8 in the deleted scenes on the DVD. I'm sure Padme's family will be there as well, because they are full cut scenes. Remeber that Lucas doesn't like to put scene trims in the Deleted Scenes, only full cut scenes. :)

Just like the E1 Disc didn't have the trims of Obi-Wan frying his saber in the swamp, Maul fighting Qui-Gon on the ramp, R2-D2 falling off the landing platform, or the Maul/Obi-Wan Lightsaber Duel on the disc. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

LTBasker
08-01-2002, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Caesar, I am sure that that scene will be one of the 8 in the deleted scenes on the DVD. I'm sure Padme's family will be there as well, because they are full cut scenes.

Dang, now I dunno about getting it. :p Eh, I hope they don't insert that scene like they did with some of the delete stuff for the E1 DVD. We'd probably get 1 second of the "kangaroo court" and 10 minutes of Padme's family. :rolleyes:

icatch9
08-01-2002, 07:42 AM
I'm kind of disapointed that they didn't include the R2 D2 special "Beneith the Dome". Not to mention the "Connections" shorts are only on the VHS. Oh well, I was thinking about getting both VHS and WS DVD anyway. I think I'll wait until the VHS comes down in price. I think TPM is less than $10.00 on VHS now.

I like the fact that they offer both WS and FS. It allows for everyone to be happy. It's not as if they are going to stop makeing WS, the movie industry knows that there are many people who only by WS. I think it's cool that they are catering to everyone instead of just giveing us one version and saying "love it or leave it".

Pendo
08-01-2002, 08:17 AM
FULL SCREAN DVD!!! I'm gonna buy both versions but I'll only watch widescreen. I hate the way there are two versions cause now we need "Widescreen" written at the top!

Anyway, I'm pleased they're sticking with the same design as the Episode I DVD so they will all match on my DVD shelf :).

I hope the date for the UK version is on the site soon.

PENDO!

JEDIpartner
08-01-2002, 08:25 AM
I'm really quite excited that there is FINALLY official word on this matter. The 8 deleted scenes will be a treat! I will probably get both the DVD WS and VHS versions. Why the VHS? So my VHS collection doesn't have a "hole" in it! Hahahaaaaa... I'll only watch the DVD... unless- the the 6 deleted scenes are found to be different from the 8 DVD scenes! :eek:

I, too, was a little disappointed that the "Beneath the Dome" will not bow on the DVD. Oh, well... I guess there really is enough there to keep us busy. I can't wait for the "Yoda" feature. It will be interesting to see exactly what it was they were writing about in the recent "Insider" article.

Pendo
08-01-2002, 08:41 AM
I'm guessing that the 'Beneath the Dome' WILL be on the DVD, but it was missed out on the Specs on the Official Site. Remember when Episode I was announced, they didn't reveal the Making of Star Wars Starfighter feature on the site's list so it's still a possibility.

PENDO!

scruffziller
08-01-2002, 08:54 AM
Hey Jar Jar, why do you like the widescreen? Do you have a special widescreen TV? For my TV I can't stand watching a little part of the screen I am using.

Beast
08-01-2002, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by scruffziller
Hey Jar Jar, why do you like the widescreen? Do you have a special widescreen TV? For my TV I can't stand watching a little part of the screen I am using.
Because Fullscreen lops somewhere between 33-40% of the sides of the movie off, and then creates an artifical camera move to pan the image back and forth in frame. An artificial camera move that was never originally in the film, thereby destroying the director's composition of the shot. Currently I'm watching my DVD's on a 19" TV, as my 27" is in the shop. Just watch the tutorial linked to in my sig, to see just how bad fullscreen can hurt a movie like Star Wars. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Beast
08-01-2002, 09:30 AM
Hey gang, you can vote right now at StarWars.Com for whether you are going to buy the Special Edition VHS, Fullscreen DVD, Widescreen DVD, or all three. Here's a link:

http://www.starwars.com/swtoday/

Here's the current totals. Yay Widescreen!! :D

Special Edition VHS 12%
Fullscreen DVD 15%
Widescreen DVD 62%
All three 11%

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
08-01-2002, 09:41 AM
All three gets my vote!!! Although I will probably only watch the widescreen DVD, the other two are just for show on my shelf ;).

PENDO!

El Chuxter
08-01-2002, 11:08 AM
Wonder when we'll get confirmation on those deleted scenes? Padme's family and kangaroo court are shoo-ins, methinks, but wasn't all the actual filming for Ki-Adi's and Plo's raid on the droid control ship completed? So it could have sound and CG added and show up. And maybe a minor Jedi other than Ki-Adi will speak!

The WS/FS issue is pretty annoying. It looks like after a brief period of greatness, the studios are beginning to pander to everyone. (I'll be getting the FS too, Caesar. I hate those stupid bars! :D)

Is anyone keeping an unofficial tally on stuff that could be on the DVD's that might show up on an expanded edition or extra disc later on? I know of R2-D2: Beneath the Dome and the awesome Fox special, From Star Wars to Star Wars: The History of ILM. And this doesn't even include "minor" cut scenes like Obi-Wan's fried saber!

JEDIpartner
08-01-2002, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Pendo
I'm guessing that the 'Beneath the Dome' WILL be on the DVD...
PENDO!


Yep... there it is on SSG's report of the DVD. Nifty! :D

Beast
08-01-2002, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by JEDIpartnr
Yep... there it is on SSG's report of the DVD. Nifty! :D
It's not on the official announcment though, so until Lucasfilm confirms or denies that it's on the disc, it's just a rumor. I have seen alot of features dropped at the last minute on DVD's. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Exhaust Port
08-01-2002, 12:31 PM
Hey, this is pretty exciting to see. Nothing like being trapped inside during the cold months of November and December and have a great movie to watch.

2-1B
08-01-2002, 12:40 PM
Re: Beneath the Dome -

Even if it's on there, it will only be the Fox promo, right? Or are you saying that's a given and we're debating the possibility of the whole web series?

The Fox trailer was great, I have it on tape, but I never watched the web series . . . I guess I could spend the time downloading them, but I was kinda hoping they'd all be on the DVD. :D

Pendo
08-01-2002, 12:49 PM
I don't think the WHOLE documentary will be on it, especially for a PG. What was Nick Gillard's comment "Out of my way you Scottish..." I think I missed the last part ;).

To be honest it wouldn't bother me much if the trailer for BTD is on or not, the only thing I'm worried about is the one second cut from UK cinemas. I'm hoping that will be included on the Region 2 DVD. I've seen the fight with the headbut and it looks alot better than without it, it's just not the same! I'd rather have it on and boost up the rating to a 12 than not have it on, and it doesn't matter about people younger than 12 who want it because the shops will probably sell it to them anyway, they're not really bothered about ratings, unless it's something like a 18 going to a 9 year old, but they're really easy going. Even if the shops wouldn't sell it I'm sure the kids parents would buy it for them!

PENDO!

2-1B
08-01-2002, 12:52 PM
Pendo, can you play Region 1 DVDs at all? (that's what the US has, right ? ) Anyway, what if we sent sent you a copy from this side of the ocean?

Pendo
08-01-2002, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Caesar
Pendo, can you play Region 1 DVDs at all? (that's what the US has, right ? ) Anyway, what if we sent sent you a copy from this side of the ocean?

Yeah I was thinking of ordering a Region 1 version off the Internet when it comes out. I'll see if the Region 2 version has it on first though! I suppose I'll also have to order the Region 1 TPM DVD too so I can see all of P-Rick's swearing :D. I really HATE the BBFC or whatever it's called!

PENDO!

Pendo
08-01-2002, 01:02 PM
Just had a thought. You know like there were two versions in the cinema, a film version and a digital version? Maybe the VHS will contain the film version and the DVD will contain the digital version. I suppose it's a possibility, and a good way to get money from the die-hards who will buy both versions.

PENDO!

JEDIpartner
08-01-2002, 02:05 PM
I didn't think of that. That's a really good point. Sod it! I suppose I WILL have to watch the VHS version to see if it DOES have the "changes".

Actually... I'm wondering which version of the release will end up on the DVD. Will it be the "Left/Right" and "hand- holding" version or will it be the "Concentrate" and "non-hand-holding" version?

Beast
08-01-2002, 02:55 PM
JediPartnr, since the DVD announcment says "The first major motion picture captured and created directly from the digital source and digitally mastered by THX", I am going to assume that the DVD will have the Digital version of the picture that includes the hand holding scene. Plus as was mentioned by an employee of ILM at Celebration 2, there may be 3 scenes added back into the picture. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Beast
08-01-2002, 03:39 PM
Just saw this posted at Yahoo! News. :)

Lucasfilm, Fox mount vid attack for 'Episode II' - Thu Aug 1, 2:04 AM ET

By John Gaudiosi

LOS ANGELES (The Hollywood Reporter) --- Backed by a multimillion-dollar marketing campaign, Lucasfilm Ltd. and 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment will unleash "Star Wars: Episode II -- Attack of the Clones" to North American retailers on special-edition DVD ($29.98) and VHS ($24.98) on Nov. 12.

"We set the bar pretty high with the 'Episode I' DVD, and we want to carry the momentum that we've built with this second DVD release, which marks the first time that a live-action feature shot digitally will be transferred to the digital medium," Lucasfilm vp marketing Jim Ward said. "With the compression and authoring that it has undergone, the film looks amazing on DVD."

The two-disc "Episode II" DVD, which will be available in both full-screen and anamorphic widescreen versions, will incorporate more than six hours of additional materials.

Disc 1, which will offer Dolby 5.1 Surround EX, will include feature-length commentary from writer-director George Lucas, producer Rick McCallum, sound designer Ben Burtt, Industrial Light + Magic animation director Rob Coleman and ILM visual effects supervisors Pablo Helman, John Knoll and Ben Snow.

The second disc is loaded with extras. As it did with the "Star Wars: Episode I -- The Phantom Menace" disc, ILM went back and finished the special effects in eight deleted scenes and included them on the DVD. Additional content includes three featurettes, a 12-part Web documentary series, theatrical trailers, 12 TV spots, the Fox TV "R2-D2: Beneath the Dome" mockumentary, a visual effects breakdown montage, an exclusive production photo gallery and the "Across the Stars" music video featuring John Williams.

"We had such great response from the 'The Beginning' documentary on the 'Episode I' DVD that we've included three documentaries on 'Episode II,' " Ward said. " 'From Puppets to Pixels' follows the entire process of Yoda from puppet to full CGI character as well as showing fans how digital stunt doubles were incorporated into the film. 'State of the Art: The Previsualization of Episode II' explores how entire scenes can be created from scratch. George thought of the idea of the droid factory sequence a year after principal photography wrapped, then enlisted ILM to bring the scene to life out of virtually nothing. The third documentary, 'Films Are Not Released; They Escape,' delves into the sound process for the making of the film."

The special-edition VHS will include six selected deleted scenes and a "Star Wars: Connections" featurette hosted by R2-D2 and C-3PO, who explain the "Star Wars" story to new fans.

Lucasfilm and Fox will target core "Star Wars" fans, families and kids with its marketing campaign, Ward said. Such licensees as Hasbro and Lego will work with Lucasfilm and Fox to cross-promote "Episode II" products with the DVD and video release, which is expected to compete with Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment's Nov. 1 release of the "Spider-Man" DVD and home video.

In addition to providing its own marketing support for its "Episode II"-based video games, sister company LucasArts Entertainment will draft off the home video and DVD release's marketing campaign. LucasArts will ship the action game "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" for PlayStation 2 ( news - web sites) and GameCube on Sept. 24 and "Star Wars: Bounty Hunter" for PlayStation 2 and GameCube on Nov. 15. Both video games are set within the "Episode II" universe and extend the story beyond the film's scope.

With more than 100 million copies sold worldwide to date, the "Star Wars" series is the best-selling home entertainment franchise. While consumers had to wait 18 months between the April 4, 2000, release of the "Episode I" VHS and the Oct. 16, 2001, release of the DVD (which came three years after the film's theatrical run), this time consumers will have a much shorter wait and three choices at retail. The "Episode I" DVD ranked eighth in DVD sales last year, selling more than 4.2 million units in 2 1/2 months and generating $96 million in revenue. "Episode I," which marked the debut of the "Star Wars" franchise on DVD, sold 2.2 million units and raked in $45 million in revenue in its first week. Combined sales for the "Episode I" DVD and VHS topped 18 million units worldwide.

Lucasfilm and Fox will release the remaining "Star Wars" films sequentially, which means the original trilogy will not be released on DVD until after "Episode III" is released on DVD.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
08-01-2002, 03:45 PM
First of all, Jar Jar, I have sympothy for you, you wouldn't believe the amount of times that I have had to explain the differences between Widescreen and full screen, I don't know why but some people just can't tell.

Secondly, Exhaust Port, that comment about being in on a cold November day made me come over all cozy, looks like I've got to book another day off work.

Thirdly, I hope it's getting released in England on the same day, well actually it'll be a day before because over here video's get released on monday's.

And lastly, will the video ONLY be released in full screen, or will there be a widescreen version aswell?

Beast
08-01-2002, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
First of all, Jar Jar, I have sympothy for you, you wouldn't believe the amount of times that I have had to explain the differences between Widescreen and full screen, I don't know why but some people just can't tell.

Secondly, Exhaust Port, that comment about being in on a cold November day made me come over all cozy, looks like I've got to book another day off work.

Thirdly, I hope it's getting released in England on the same day, well actually it'll be a day before because over here video's get released on monday's.

And lastly, will the video ONLY be released in full screen, or will there be a widescreen version aswell?
I was discussing the whole Widescreen/Fullscreen thing with a friend at Media Play when I picked my discs up today. He said he gets frustrated trying to explain it to people also. I can imagine, I get frustrated when someone asks me in the store, I can't imagine having a job where everyday I would have to face that frustration. It would be like hell on earth.

Anyway, we were talking about it and it really isn't that bad of an idea. It will show the movie companies exactly what is prefered for DVD. He said he liked the display that they had, where is shows "The Abyss" and "Titanic", comparing the Widescreen and Fullscreen. I mentioned to him, that it was the worst thing they could display to show. The Abyss one is ok, cause they only show the greyed out areas, of what you miss when its pan and scan. But the picture for Titanic shows the extra image at the top and bottom of the frame.

The reason for that is because, "The Abyss" and "Titanic" were Super 35 movies. So when they are shown fullframe, you do loose the sides, but you also gain more image at the top and bottom. The problem there is, the director formats the shot in the camera, so that you arn't meant to see that section. The boom mics can be visible at the top, and sometimes at the bottom other things can be visible.

But back to what you asked, since the Australian release is supposed to be the 13th, I assume that you will get yours on the 11th in the UK. November 12th is huge now, what with the LOTR's:FOTR DVD Extended Cut, South Park: Season 1, and now Star Wars: Episode II. :eek: :D Oh, and I am sure there will be a Widescreen VHS release as well. Probably a special boxed set with a film frame like the E1 set, or atleast I hope. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
08-01-2002, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
and I am sure there will be a Widescreen DVD release as well. Probably a special boxed set with a film frame like the E1 set as well. :)

You meen VHS, right?

BTW, I've voted for all three in the poll sorry Jar Jar but it's the truth, although I'll only watch the widescreen version.

Also, I hope thay change the bar on the full screen version from blue, to silver or something like that because it looks cheap and doesn't match the rest of the cover.

Beast
08-01-2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
You meen VHS, right?

BTW, I've voted for all three in the poll sorry Jar Jar but it's the truth, although I'll only watch the widescreen version.

Also, I hope thay change the bar on the full screen version from blue, to silver or something like that because it looks cheap and doesn't match the rest of the cover.
Doh, yes I meant VHS. Allow me to correct that really fast, and thank you for the heads up. I will be picking up the DVD: Widescreen release, as well as the Widescreen VHS. Though I hope there is another box set like before. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Mandalorian Candidat
08-01-2002, 05:15 PM
I just read the 411 on the EP2 DVD set and have just one question: Why the hell didn't they include a documentary similar to "The Beginning." IMO that was the best item on the EP1 set aside from the actual movie. It took you pretty much sequentially through the whole process of preproduction, production, post-production, and up to Ricky Dick's exclamation of "This is f'n great!" at that movie theatre.

If we could get just one feature that's what I would take. I don't want snippets of how they made Yoda into the Tazmanian Devil. I want to see stuff on the whole process.

Other than that I think we're going to get something analagous to the EP1 disc which is fine with me. I still think that's the best set made to date so for EP2, even without a similar doc., will still be great. Plus we're getting 8 deleted scenes, not just 7. :D

Beast
08-01-2002, 05:26 PM
Mandalorian, there are 3 documentarys on the disc that will pretty much add up to be on par with "The Beginning" They just broke them up into 3 large documentaries. From what I have heard, there will actually be more to the docs, then was on the E1 disc. That was only an hour, while the 3 docs on the E3 disc are rumored to run around 2 hours total. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Hasbro'sBountyHunter
08-02-2002, 03:25 AM
Is it just me, or does the box art make Anakin's lightsaber look crooked?

2-1B
08-02-2002, 03:35 AM
Binks, about the trimmed scenes - I see what you are saying. Still though, we'll get a few trims, if only in the trailers . . . for instance, Bail saying "we must stop them before they are ready" and Ani and Obers' snippy nightclub exterior exchange:
"I've heard this lesson before."
"You haven't learned anything Anakin."

Hmmm, I'd like them to include the deleted scene of Ani's dream aboard the Gozanti cruiser - might not be worth it though, I'm not sure what else the scene included.

wedgeA
08-02-2002, 05:17 AM
I hope that this disc is recorded at a higher sound level than TPM. That disc sounds relatively soft compared to other discs, especially THX certified ones, especially dialogue only scenes. Anyone else notice this?

JarJar,

That OAR tutorial is excellent!

rynobot
08-02-2002, 05:39 AM
I just hope we can watch the movie with all the deleted scenes and shots in it.

hango fett
08-02-2002, 07:38 AM
i can't wait untill november 12th! it's only about 3 months away!!
h.

Pendo
08-02-2002, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Hasbro'sBountyHunter
Is it just me, or does the box art make Anakin's lightsaber look crooked?

Yes it does look a little crooked, but it's not as bad as Obi-Wan's on the Ep1 DVD! I'm just glad Ani's saber looks the normal length on this box, have you seen how short Obi-Wan's is on the Ep1 DVD?

It looks like us Brits will be getting it on the 11th :D. Click here (http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?4065). It will also be priced at £24.99p. :D

November 11th can't come quick enough...

PENDO!

sunblind
08-02-2002, 09:18 AM
Widescreen - For those who want to see the movie the way it's supposed to be. Otherwise your just not getting it.
Deleted scenes - I hope they add some back to the movie! This is gonna be good!

Geonosian
08-02-2002, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by hango fett
i can't wait untill november 12th! Me too, me too.

Jek Porky 2002
08-02-2002, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Pendo
November 11th can't come quick enough...

Only 14 weeks on monday Pendo, 14 weeks!

Geonosian
08-02-2002, 07:27 PM
Let the countdown begin.

Battle Droid
08-04-2002, 03:24 PM
One deleted scene has been confirmed.

http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2002/08/news20020803.html

Beast
08-04-2002, 03:31 PM
Thanks for the heads up, BD. Glad to see the that "Jedi Analysis Droids" scene will show up on the DVD. That is one I figured on, but you never know. Well, one down and seven to go. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
08-04-2002, 06:02 PM
Thank's man, although it's not my most wanted deleted scene.

Geonosian
08-04-2002, 08:59 PM
What are all the deleted scences?

Beast
08-05-2002, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Geonosian
What are all the deleted scences?
We don't know yet, though there are likely cantidates. Any scenes that were completed, and are full scenes. Lucas doesn't like to include scene trims on the DVD. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

2-1B
08-05-2002, 01:35 AM
I'm guessing the bit with Jar Jar hugging Anakin fits in the trimmed category . . .

Beast
08-05-2002, 01:51 AM
I'm gonna say yes. With 8 deleted scenes, I think we will most likely see the following 8 scenes on the DVD.

1. Palpatine Announces Padme's Death to the Senate. Padme arrives to cheers at the fact she's alive. She delivers a speech against the military creation act.

2. Jocasta Nu and the Lost 20 speech. An important scene that never should have been cut anyway. Explains more about who Dooku was, and mentions 19 other Jedi, the only ever to leave the order.

3. Jedi Analysis Droids. Obi-Wan takes the Saberdart to the Jedi archives for identification. 2 Droids inspect the dart, but can find no information about it. - (confirmed)

4. Padme's Family. All the scenes of Padme, Anakin, and her family on Naboo. I'm kinda glad all this was cut, since people complained the middle of the movie drags some.

5. Geonosian Kangaroo Court. Padme attempting to get Obi-Wan freed. Dooku attempting to get Padme to sign Naboo's support to the sepratists. She declines, and he orders her and Anakin's excecution.

6. Obi-Wan gets attacked by Massiffs. While on Geonosis, Obi-Wan encounters a pack of Massiffs and has to dispatch them with his lightsaber.

7. Padme attaching C-3PO's coverings. A long scene in the garage, while Anakin is off looking for Shmi. She gives C-3PO an oil bath as they talk, and then attaches coverings to him.

8. Obi-Wan and Mace discuss Anakin. On the landing platform of the Jedi temple, Mace and Obi-Wan exchange words about Anakin before Obi-Wan takes off for Kamino.

Those are really out of order, and so far only the "Jedi Analysis Droids" scene is confirmed as one of the deleted scenes. But the rest seem likely, especially if Plo and Ki-Adi's attack on the Droid Control Ship was never finished. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
08-05-2002, 08:22 AM
I'm hoping they actaully spend some money to finish that scene and put it on cause I really wanna see it!

PENDO!

Geonosian
08-05-2002, 08:24 AM
Will we see the Plo Ki mission?
Also will we hear Poggle speak english?

Darth Nihilus
08-05-2002, 10:10 AM
If Lucas is aiming for a simultaneous release we (Australia) may get it before the US. We're getting LotR the same day as the US (6th) which puts us roughly 15 hours ahead of the rest of the world.

Pendo
08-05-2002, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Geonosian
Also will we hear Poggle speak english?

I didn't know Poggle could speak Basic (English).


Originally posted by Darth Nihilus
If Lucas is aiming for a simultaneous release we (Australia) may get it before the US. We're getting LotR the same day as the US (6th) which puts us roughly 15 hours ahead of the rest of the world.

Us Brits will be getting the Ep2 DVD first on the 11th, and Australia might be getting it on the same day as us. Alot of DVDs we get are released on the same day for you, such as Red Dwarf. I hope I'm making JJB jealous ;)! We're also getting LOTR tomorrow so there is a good chance you'll get Ep2 on the 11th Nov.

PENDO!

Beast
08-05-2002, 10:21 AM
I heard that Australia would be getting Episode II on DVD/VHS on November 13th, which is a Wednesday. It hasn't been confirmed yet, but the site I read it on was correct that the UK will get it on November 11th. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Nihilus
08-05-2002, 11:45 AM
11th, 12th, 13th, it's all good baby. Spiderman and AotC in the same month, I be very happy sah!

Pendo
08-05-2002, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Darth Nihilus
11th, 12th, 13th, it's all good baby. Spiderman and AotC in the same month, I be very happy sah!

What date is Spider-Man set to be released??? Do you know the UK date?

PENDO!

Darth Nihilus
08-05-2002, 12:25 PM
I heard November 1st, don't know how accurate that is though.

Jek Porky 2002
08-05-2002, 02:47 PM
I can't see Spiderman being released before Star Wars, because it was released into theatres after.

BTW, I heard on a local radio station that AOTC has been confirmed for a November 11th release over here!

Beast
08-05-2002, 03:37 PM
Spider-Man is confirmed to be released on DVD/VHS, atleast in the states on November 1st. Here is the thread I started about the DVD release. :)

http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12124

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

hango fett
08-05-2002, 04:42 PM
why do i get the feeling that only me and ceaser really like full screen??? ;) i love full screen! my dad likes wide screen! i sadi "we are getting the full screen because i want to see the whol;e thing and not just a third of it!" he said "youe better save your money then, because i'm getting the wide screen"
BOO TO WIDE SCREEN!!
h.
1200th post!!

Pendo
08-05-2002, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by hango fett
i sadi "we are getting the full screen because i want to see the whol;e thing and not just a third of it!"

That doesn't make sense! :confused: The way you said it makes it sound like full screen shows everything and widescreen only shows a third of it. It's the other way around!!! And WIDESCREEN is ALOT better!!!!!

PENDO!

hango fett
08-05-2002, 06:53 PM
let's just say i like a full screen as much as a full glass of choclate milk!
h.

Hasbro'sBountyHunter
08-06-2002, 12:47 AM
Is there any chance that the Dooku using 2 lightsabers will be on the DVD? Or how about the N*SYNC Jedis?

Pendo
08-06-2002, 02:21 PM
Well I pre-ordered my version today when I went to buy LOTR so I can relax now :).
It looks like the official release dates are posted on the site. Click here (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2002/08/news20020805.html). You also get a glimpse at what the disks will look like.
Also it looks like bad knews for us Brits the Jango head butt will be cut out of the movie (click here (http://www.theforce.net/episode2/index.html#17717)), it looks like I'll have to order my Region 1 version too! I REALLY HATE the BBFC :mad::mad::mad:!!!

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
08-06-2002, 03:29 PM
Where did you pre-order it from Pendo?

The disc's where not what I expected I thought we where going to get disc one as a close up of Jango's head and disc two of Ani and Obi-Wan in action, you know that bit where they run into the hanger together, it was on the first trailor.

Pendo
08-06-2002, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
Where did you pre-order it from Pendo?

You can pre-order it from almost anywhere like WH Smiths or Woolworths or something!

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
08-06-2002, 04:14 PM
I remember when TPM was coming out, when I pre-ordered my copy from Woolworths I got a free Homer Simpson cuddly toy, what a great deal!

Pendo
08-06-2002, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
I remember when TPM was coming out, when I pre-ordered my copy from Woolworths I got a free Homer Simpson cuddly toy, what a great deal!

YOU DID!!! How come they didn't give me one!!!!!????? :mad:

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
08-06-2002, 04:53 PM
I'll go and pre order mine tomorrow, I'll let you know if I get a free toy to put your mind at ease.

El Chuxter
08-07-2002, 02:27 PM
I wonder how long it will be before we get confirmation on the other cut scenes? I really want to see Plo and Ki-Adi in action, but I think JJB's list is probably close to the mark.

Jek Porky 2002
08-07-2002, 03:17 PM
I don't think we'll see that, I think it comes under the "trimmed" catagory.

Geonosian
08-08-2002, 09:32 AM
Any chance of the Poggle excercution thingy...

Beast
08-08-2002, 09:44 AM
It's a full deleted scene, and not a scene trim. Not to mention I listed the "Geonosian Kangaroo Court" as one of the 8 that I think we will see in the Deleted Scenes. So yes, it's very likely that it will be included. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
08-08-2002, 09:49 AM
Has anybody got any news on any Easter Eggs? Will there be another Blooper Reel?

PENDO!

Beast
08-08-2002, 09:54 AM
No concrete news as of yet, but I don't see why they wouldn't do somthing similar to the first release Pendo. So expect a few little hidden suprises. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Mr. JabbaJohnL
08-08-2002, 01:53 PM
If they do show a deleted Poggle scene, he'll probably speak whatever the hell it is that he speaks in the movie. Remember, they finished some new scenes for the TPM DVD, like the waterfall with new water effects, so they'll finish whatever they gotta finish.

And JJB, you're way past due to kick Hango's *** for dissin' widescreen!:D :D :D :D :D :D

Beast
08-08-2002, 03:24 PM
I'm leaving Hango alone, if someone can't realize how much of the picture they are loosing in Pan and Scam, then nothing will help them.

2.35:1 films especially should never be shown in Fullscreen, that totally destroys the directors vision of the shot. But, I deal with people in real life when I go to video stores when I overhear them bad mouth widescreen, I don't need to go into it here as well. If they can't see the truth, just from the comparisons...then they are lost causes. :(

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

billfremore
08-08-2002, 03:32 PM
Hey if he wants Pan and Spam let him have it.
All the more widescreen copies for us :D

Beast
08-08-2002, 05:46 PM
*SIGH* Well, my prediction of Fox/Lucasfilm releasing a Pan & Scan version of E1 on DVD was correct. Just read that Fox announced it earlier this morning. It's going to street on the same day as the E2 DVD. The extra features on the 2-disc set will remain the same though. Here's a link to the thread I started in the E1 movie forum. :(

http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13263

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

-JediMaster-Yoda-
08-08-2002, 06:04 PM
I like Full Screen, because even though in widescreen you get to see the whole movie side to side, you can barley see the movie you see more black bars! Full Screen at least it goes across your whole screen without black bars intruding!

2-1B
08-10-2002, 03:22 AM
I much prefer widescreen, but what is this talk about the director's vision being totally destroyed? :rolleyes:
I'll wager that studio interference and pressure does a hell of a lot more to ruin a director's vision that the way it's cropped.

Let's not forget that most of us grew up watching hacked up "pan and scam" films, delighting in them as we went.
Again, I'm very pro-widescreen because it's my preference, but there seems to be such an elitist attitude over the past few years regarding the "purity" of widescreen.

As a 13 year old kid, I was totally into my T2 and Silence of the Lambs P&S videos, and just because I have Widescreen DVDs of those flicks now, does it mean I was totally ripped off in my youth? I say no.

Beast
08-10-2002, 03:58 AM
The only reason that I refer to it as the director's vision being destroyed, is because most of the time, it's not the director that supervises the P&S transfers of his film. Not to mention in the panning and scanning, they are creating an artificial camera move that was never intended in the film by the director. :)

Yes, most of us did grow up with P&S, and we loved them. But that was because of TV, and because the studios didn't give a lick about offering widescreen in the early days. So everyone grew up thinking that at home, the picture should be square. Even though anyone can tell that a movie screen is a rectangle. :)

Like I said in the E1 thread about P&S/WS, that is the only reason that alot of DVD fans are afraid of P&S. Alot of people that are used to VHS, and it's primarily P&S movies are moving into DVD because it's cheap, and more and more P&S releases are coming. And on some occassions, P&S have threatened WS releases due to studio stupidity. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
08-10-2002, 12:18 PM
They don't even put something on the side of the cover that says Widescreen or fullscreen, so it will just look like you've got 2 versions of the same film.

JEDIpartner
08-14-2002, 06:57 PM
It's like this... Here's a picture of Hango's family. They got a new frame to put it into!! Cool... uh, wait! The frame is too small! Well... let's not take the frame back... it's nice. We'll just take out the scissors and snip Hango, grandma and grandpa off. No one will know! :evil:

Anyhow... the problem really is... you have a small Television. I have a mid sized 27" screen and I can see everything just fine. I love widescreen and have been an advocate of it since the mid 1980s when Spielberg had brilliant notion to only release "The Color Purple" in widescreen for the home video version!

DeadEye
08-15-2002, 10:00 PM
I'm certainly going to agree that widescreen is, in fact, better than fullscreen--however, the only time Pan-and-Spam is really horrible is in shots with a lot of content/detail...(although, of course, movies like Star Wars are nothing BUT shots like that) However, there is a way you can see for yourself. If you have a DVD-ROM on your PC and a program like Cyberlink PowerDVD, you can swap between viewing a movie in widescreen and pan-n-scan whenever you want! :)

Beast
08-15-2002, 10:06 PM
DeadEye, unless the DVD actually carries both formats of the film, all you are doing is zooming the picture. And I disagree with the fact that Widescreen is only needed for content or detail heavy films. Movies that are just 2 people talking most of the movie benefit greatly from widescreen, because you can see both of the speakers at the same time, and see their reactions. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DeadEye
08-15-2002, 10:15 PM
Jar Jar, you are correct, of course. If you have the 5-Star DVD of Die Hard, the presentation about Letterbox Format explains everything. Wider is better for most shots--however, it's not absolutely essential. I'll vouch that fullscreen sucks--however, I don't think it's quite as atrocious as you say it is. Sure, there's all kinds of subtleties and nuances that you miss, but you can generally still understand the main image.

Pendo
08-18-2002, 11:03 AM
Here's what the Episode I Fulscreen DVD will look like. Also if you click here (http://www.bestbuy.com/movies/ProductInfo.asp?e=11177818) you can order a Episode I and II DVD box set in Pan and Crappy Scan.

edit: Oops nearly forgot to add this...

...PENDO! :D

Darth Vellner
08-18-2002, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by DeadEye
Wider is better for most shots--however, it's not absolutely essential. I'll vouch that fullscreen sucks--

Widescreen may not be "Essential" BUT, A valid Repesentation of the Directors Vision of the Film IS!
If a movie is shot in a square format like "The blair witch project" then indeed it should be released as such....they should not strech it out for widescreen fans! I am not a "fan" of widescreen,wait, yes I am! But more so, I am a "fan" of Original format films... ALL my DVD's Are WIDESCREEN...(if I want to recreat the "Theater Experence" in my home WIDESCREEN is the ONLY way!)
WIDESCREEN MOVIES SHOULD REMAIN WIDESCREEN IN THERE RELEASES, WHY CHANGE THE MOVIE? Is there too much picture on the sides?LOL
The difference is like MONO and STEREO

Beast
08-19-2002, 04:38 PM
HomeTheaterForum.Com had this picture of a Fullscreen Boxset of Episode I & 2 bundled together. I wonder if they are going to do the same with the Widescreen Edition. If so, I will probably get the boxset. That way I'll have an extra copy of E1, just incase somthing happens to my original. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
08-19-2002, 04:44 PM
COOL, thanx Emperor JJB!!! Looks cool. I'm deffo gonna be gettin the box set in full and widescreen. I'll never watch the full one though!

PENDO!

plo koon 200
08-20-2002, 01:29 PM
I hate the blue over the top and bottom and I hate the fact that they now say Fullscreen and Widescreen. It's even worse for the Fullscreen TPM because it dosen't match the Widescreen version.

plo koon 200
08-20-2002, 01:31 PM
And I almsot forgot can't they hold off of a box set until EIII comes out?

Pendo
08-25-2002, 11:15 AM
Does anyone know if the boxset has the Speacial Featues disks with it too. On some websites it just says the box set is 2 disks, does this mean 2 disks per film or it's just the two movie disks?

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
08-26-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by plo koon 200
And I almsot forgot can't they hold off of a box set until EIII comes out?

I completely agree, there is no logic in them bringing out a box set at this point, it's just going to look silly in 2005, when you've got a big box set for two films and Episode III on it's own!:mad:

Beast
08-26-2002, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
I completely agree, there is no logic in them bringing out a box set at this point, it's just going to look silly in 2005, when you've got a big box set for two films and Episode III on it's own!:mad:
It's not going to look silly, because in 2005 you will get another boxset of E1, E2, and E3. And then in 2006 or so you will get the OT on DVD, probably also in a 6 movie boxset. Fox did the same thing with Jurassic Park. :crazed: :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
08-26-2002, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Fox did the same thing with Jurassic Park. :crazed: :D

I knew about the JP and LW Box set, but I've not seen the I, II, and III box set, any pics?

Beast
08-26-2002, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
I knew about the JP and LW Box set, but I've not seen the I, II, and III box set, any pics?
The set is really nice. It's in a shiny slipcase and comes with a bonus disc of additional behind the scenes things for all three movies and also has a ride-along on the Jurassic Park ride. I would love to see them do somthing like that for the Star Wars boxset, since not everyone has been on "Star Tours". :)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005QCYC.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

jedi_uk73
08-26-2002, 04:58 PM
I personally don't see the point of bringing out a box set for E1 & E2 without E3.

Why not just wait till E3 is released then bring out the OT in one set and the PT in another boxset or just have all 6 in one set. Seems like Lucasfilm want to milk us a bit more for cash.

Beast
08-26-2002, 05:01 PM
They have been doing it for years with VHS, why not give them a chance to do it with DVD. But atleast unlike the VHS milking, they are not adding extra features to the DVD release each time. That won't happen until the "Archival Editions". In other words, you aren't missing anything by not buying the boxset. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
08-27-2002, 04:20 PM
That's a good point Jar Jar, I think I'll pass on the box set, so now for 11/11 it's just:

TPM DVD: Full Screen
AOTC DVD: Full Screen
AOTC DVD: Widescreen
AOTC VHS: Full Screen
AOTC VHS: Widescreen

Not many really!

Darth Vellner
08-27-2002, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
That's a good point Jar Jar, I think I'll pass on the box set, so now for 11/11 it's just:

TPM DVD: Full Screen
AOTC DVD: Full Screen
AOTC DVD: Widescreen
AOTC VHS: Full Screen
AOTC VHS: Widescreen

Not many really!

Your missing a lot!

ANH-VHS
ESB-VHS
ROTJ-VHS
BOX-SET-VHS
RE-RELEASE
ANH-VHS
ESB-VHS
ROTJ-VHS
BOX-SET-VHS
RE-RE-RELEASE
ANH-VHS
ESB-VHS
ROTJ-VHS
BOX-SET-VHS
RE-RE-RE-RELEASE
SPECIAL EDITION
ANH-VHS
ESB-VHS
ROTJ-VHS
BOX-SET-VHS-WIDESCREEN
BOX-SET-VHS-FULLSCREEN
TPM-VHS-WIDESCREEN
TPM-VHS-FULLSCREEN
TPM-DVD-WIDESCREEN
TPM-DVD-FULLSCREEN
TPM/AOTC-WIDESCREEN-BOX-SET-DVD
TPM/AOTC-FULLSCREEN-BOX-SET-DVD
TPM/AOTC-WIDESCREEN-BOX-SET-VHS TPM/AOTC-FULLSCREEN-BOX-SET-VHS
AOTC-WIDESCREEN-DVD
AOTC-FULLSCREEN-DVD
AOTC-WIDESCREEN-VHS
AOTC-FULLSCREEN-VHS

NOT INCLUDING COLLECTORS SETS
AND OT DVD'S OR ALL 6 BOX SET IN THE DIFFERENT FORMATS

WOW! THAT'S ALOT!!!

JAR-JAR.....DID I MISS ANY??

[EDIT] Does anyone have ALL of these releases??

Beast
08-27-2002, 05:30 PM
Yes, the numerous Laserdisc releases. The best being "The Definitive Collection" that included 3 double sided LD's for each movie, and a hard cover book.

There was also "The Special Edition" Laserdisc Boxset. And the E1 Laserdisc that was only released in Japan. But I think Jek was talking about just what is getting released on November 12 (11th for R2). :)

Oh, and don't forget that A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back was released on Video Disc and Beta back in the 80's. Return of the Jedi also was released on Beta, but Video Disc was dead before then. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Vellner
08-27-2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
. But I think Jek was talking about just what is getting released on November 12 (11th for R2). :)

. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Oh.....sorry Jek

Thanks Jar-Jar.......I forgot lazerdisc and Beta and Videodisc

and VCD's

Beast
08-28-2002, 05:26 PM
Just got an E-Mail from Media-Play today. Looks like I will be pre-ordering it there. Not only for the 3,000 bonus points, but also for the Clonetrooper Key Chain. According to the E-Mail, it's $19.99 if you pre-order. :cool: :D

Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones is heading your way - Available on November 12, 2002! Reserve your copy of the DVD or VHS now through November 2, 2002 and receive 3000 Replay Bonus Points plus get a FREE* pewter clone trooper key chain! Plus, read exclusive articles and interviews with the stars of the blockbuster movie and the author behind the best-selling book. MediaPlay.com is your Star Wars superstore!

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Vellner
08-28-2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Just got an E-Mail from Media-Play today. Looks like I will be pre-ordering it there. Not only for the 3,000 bonus points, but also for the Clonetrooper Key Chain. According to the E-Mail, it's $19.99 if you pre-order. :cool: :D

Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones is heading your way - Available on November 12, 2002! Reserve your copy of the DVD or VHS now through November 2, 2002 and receive 3000 Replay Bonus Points plus get a FREE* pewter clone trooper key chain! Plus, read exclusive articles and interviews with the stars of the blockbuster movie and the author behind the best-selling book. MediaPlay.com is your Star Wars superstore!

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

WOW!! ME too!!

FREE pewter clone trooper key chain! that Rocks!
I can't wait till NOV. 12 WOOOOO WHOOOOOO!!!

2-1B
08-29-2002, 12:00 AM
Binksy, I'll probably get my copies there too - did you get the pewter lightsaber keychain in April 2000? :)

Pendo, the "boxset" will have the bonus discs too - they refer to each title as one DVD, even though there are literally 2 discs. I belive "unit" is the industry term. :)

Beast
08-29-2002, 01:52 AM
Nope, I ended up not pre-ordering it at the time because I was boycotting Suncoast due to their manager being a arse. I bought mine at Best Buy. It came out and my brothers car was in the shop. Luckily a friend popped in to see what was up so I hijacked him and his car and made him take me. :crazed: :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Vellner
08-29-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Caesar
Binksy, I'll probably get my copies there too - did you get the pewter lightsaber keychain in April 2000? :)

Pendo, the "boxset" will have the bonus discs too - they refer to each title as one DVD, even though there are literally 2 discs. I belive "unit" is the industry term. :)


OK....so the "boxset" is 4 disc..=2 movies and 2 bonus discs?
OR..............3 disc..=2 movies and one bonus disc..?

Will the "Bonus" disc be avalable sepertley or is it exclusive to the "boxset"...........?..............will this "Bonus" disc "Bone-us"

2-1B
08-29-2002, 12:38 PM
2 movies, 2 bonus discs, 2 DVD cases. :)

We're talking about the Fullscreen 2pack, right?

Pendo
08-29-2002, 03:04 PM
Any word on a Widescreen Box Set?

PENDO!

Beast
08-29-2002, 03:08 PM
Nothing yet Pendo. I have been scanning my usual DVD pages, and there has been no info. It sucks if it doesn't happen, because I want the slip case, but I don't want to buy P&S to get it. If worse comes to worse, I guess I will buy the P&S boxset and then keep the case and give the DVD's to my confused WS hating father. ;) :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

JesusFreak
08-29-2002, 06:30 PM
I would love a widescreen boxset because I just got my dvd player therefore I dont have Ep. 1 yet.

JesusFreak
09-01-2002, 08:32 PM
I dont know if this is supposed to go in JJB dvd topic so I'll just put em here.

JesusFreak
09-01-2002, 08:34 PM
No. 2

JesusFreak
09-01-2002, 08:35 PM
Next

JesusFreak
09-01-2002, 08:37 PM
Next...

JesusFreak
09-01-2002, 08:38 PM
Last one (Edit: Just found another)

JesusFreak
09-01-2002, 08:43 PM
This ones last (btw thx for merging)

Beast
09-01-2002, 08:46 PM
Very nice pictures, JesusFreak. Would have been nice to see pictures of Disc 2, but usual they keep that more underwraps. Especially since that will contain the 8 Deleted Scenes. I'm suprised we haven't gotten another confirmation on a scene since the first one. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DeadEye
09-01-2002, 09:42 PM
JF where did you acquire those pictures? I take it they are real...

JesusFreak
09-01-2002, 09:49 PM
They're from TheForce.net, one of the loyal posters at their message board gave them to TFN

DeadEye
09-01-2002, 10:32 PM
Oh, ok then. Just making sure they were legit. :p Thanks.

Pendo
09-02-2002, 12:02 PM
COOL PICS JESUSFREAK!!!. AICN has a review of Disk one here (http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13158) but no mention of lost 20 re-incorporated :(.

PENDO!

DeadEye
09-02-2002, 12:13 PM
How can they already have a review?

Rogue II
09-02-2002, 12:20 PM
Video Retailers sometimes get preview copies of movies before they are officially released. I worked in a video store when I was in High School. We got preview copies 2 or 3 months before they were released for purchase. As far as I know, the only difference is that every 5 or 10 minutes, an annoying message would scroll across the bottom of the screen.

Pendo
09-02-2002, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by DeadEye
How can they already have a review?

Like Rogue II said, it could be a video store. But it could also be the person who got those screen shots of the menus, he (she?) must have had a copy of the disk! It wouldn't be too hard for them to review it.

PENDO!

Beast
09-02-2002, 02:17 PM
Plus ole Harry Knowles has his greasy fanboy figures into everything. So it's not suprising that he manages to snag himself a copy of the DVD early. :p :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Beast
09-02-2002, 04:43 PM
Oh, the AICN.com review states that there has been atleast 3 minor changes from the theatrical/digital version of the movie. Padme's hand clasping Anakin's mechanical version is in this version, so the added scenes were added to the digital version, most likely. You can read about it at AICN, but I'll post the changes. http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13158 And Lucas answered in the commentary, the question of Vader's shadow. No, it was not added by CGI, so that means that likely people are interprating what was shown. :)

NOTE: This is the first instance of the DVD version differing from the theatrical release. Anakin and Padme have a smidgen of dialogue after the "I slaughtered them like animals. I hate them!" speech. Educated guess would say to me that Lucas is answering a complaint of many people: "Why would Padme fall for this murdering psycho?" Initially, if I remember right, Anakin just starts weeping like a baby immediately after the animals speech, when he sits down. Here's what follows now after he slumps to the floor, Padme following suit:

Padme: "To be angry is to be human."

Anakin: "I'm a Jedi. I KNOW I'm better than this."

THEN he starts the waterworks.

Perhaps just enough to show that Anakin seems remorseful, and that Padme is willing to accept his faults. Definitely should have been in the original release (perhaps certain digital prints had it, hell, maybe it WAS in the theater. But I don't remember it, so there.) Plus, it solves my internal mystery about the lost "I'm a Jedi" line from one of the trailers.

NOTE: Lucas says that ILM added extra sparks and a false start to Jango's jetpack, just in case you were wondering why he didn't fly away from Mace before... you know. The jetpack was damaged when the beast ran Jango down, but the sparking was a bit muted in the theatrical cut. The DVD cut makes the damage more obvious.

NOTE: Another change from theater to DVD... when Padme is found by the clonetrooper, she originally answered the question "Are you all right?" with a flat and damn-near comical "Yes." Now she grunts out a somewhat-more convincing "Uh-huh" before getting up, unharmed, and trotting away.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
09-02-2002, 04:48 PM
I hope they don't just add more sparks to make the damage on Jango's jet pack more obvious. I think that would make it look stupid. Perhaps they could make peices of it fall off and have dents in it or something, BUT PLEASE NO MORE SPARKS!!!

PENDO!

Darth Vellner
09-02-2002, 04:52 PM
That's Great!!! This DVD is getting better and better!!

BTW:the "NOTE: Another change from theater to DVD... when Padme is found by the clonetrooper, she originally answered the question "Are you all right?" with a flat and damn-near comical "Yes." Now she grunts out a somewhat-more convincing "Uh-huh" before getting up, unharmed, and trotting away."

My Wife Noticed that opening night (I did not) I'm Glad they "Fixed" that line!!(so she can't make fun of it anymore!)

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:01 PM
Darth Vellner, don't mention that they changed it. Then when you watch the DVD with your wife you can act like she is crazy. "See, I told you that she never said that." Just make sure that you don't take it to far. ;) :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:09 PM
Here's a couple more menu shots, as well as some images from the actual DVD. Looks like the picture quality is fantastic. :eek: :D

Here's the Geonosis Audio Option screenshot. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:12 PM
Here's the next one. The Coruscant Audio Options Screenshot. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:17 PM
Obi-Wan stares down Dooku:

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:21 PM
Count Dooku shoots Force Lightning at Obi-Wan. Note that it appears that the lightning has been changed, so that it looks more like The Emporer's lightning in ROTJ. :)

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:23 PM
Obi-Wan uses his Lightsaber to absorb Dooku's Lightning. :cool: :)

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:26 PM
CloneTroopers prepared to be deployed throught the galaxy. The start of the Empire, and the fall of the old republic. :)

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:29 PM
The next three are all Yoda vs. Dooku, and that is all that I have found so far on-line, because TFN pulls them down as soon as they are posted. But I found them at HTF.com. :)

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:30 PM
Here's another of Dooku vs. Yoda. :)

Beast
09-02-2002, 05:32 PM
And finally, one more image of Dooku vs. Yoda. :)

DeadEye
09-02-2002, 09:45 PM
Jar Jar,

You're absolutely right about the lightning! It looks hella better now...I thought it looked like crap in the theater release...

JesusFreak
09-02-2002, 10:29 PM
Great pics JarJar! By looking at stills of Dooku vs. Yoda I can tell that Dooku really is all CG.

BTW whats HTF?

Beast
09-02-2002, 10:35 PM
HTF.com is HomeTheaterForum.com. One of the insane number of forums that I am a member to. Of course SSG still garners most of my time. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Geonosian
09-03-2002, 02:40 AM
Will there be more Arena in the DVD.

rynobot
09-03-2002, 02:54 AM
Oh my I can't wait for this to come out! My birthday is 11-17 so I that means nothing! I'll be up for ever wathcing the DVD cause I only saw AOTC once in the theater just like TPM! Now before you say that I am not a fan cause I saw the move once I have to statee that I've loved SW al; my life and have had SW toys just as long! I only saw the prequels once in the theateer cause I spend my money on the toys and spending ticket prices is stupid in my opinion! Oh well I can't wait to see the AOTC again cause I was messed up in the head the last time I saw it which was 12:01 opening night!

Pendo
09-03-2002, 11:33 AM
GREAT pics JJB!!! Truely amazing :). The picture quality is superb, probably the best I've seen in a DVD, and they were just stills, I'm sure the real thing will be alot better :). I really cannot wait for the DVD now.

Like JesusFreak said, on the stills you can tell Dooku is CG, but it shows how brilliant the effects were cause you couldn't tell in the cinema.

:)

PENDO!

Pendo
09-03-2002, 03:06 PM
Heres a scan of the Episode II VHS cover including the back :).

PENDO!

Pendo
09-03-2002, 03:09 PM
And here's a larger scan of the back cover.

(yes I realise it's not in English but you still get to see what it will look like).

PENDO!

DeadEye
09-03-2002, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
HTF.com is HomeTheaterForum.com. One of the insane number of forums that I am a member to. Of course SSG still garners most of my time. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Hey Jar Jar, are you a member of the Aliens vs. Predator, 3D Realms, or Glue Factory forums? I am. ;)

And Pendo, I don't know what language that VHS back is in. It looks similar to German but isn't...Dutch or Scandinavian, perhaps? No idea. Anyway, those poor foreigners are being fed disinformation! It says on there that Anakin is 17 in AOTC!

Beast
09-03-2002, 03:16 PM
I like the mistake on the back of the box saying that Anakin is only 17 years old, Pendo. :stupid: Damn foreigners, J/K. :crazed: :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Trymybestus
09-03-2002, 03:20 PM
I wonder what Lucas will say about Darth Sidious in the commentary on the AOTC DVD. In the Phantom Menace commentary he says that he wanted to introduce Darth Sidious as a hologram because that's how he did it in Empire Strikes Back.
I personally find the commentary to be one of the best things on the DVD & I really can't wait to hear what they have to say.
It's going to be cool when they talk about Count Dooku & having Anakin lose an arm.
What do you think he'll say about Darth Sidious in the AOTC DVD commentary???

Beast
09-03-2002, 03:28 PM
Well, they talk a little bit about the commentary on the AICN review. So that would be what I suggest reading if you want a sneak-peek at the commentary. One of the best parts is that Lucas finally ends the controversy, and says that Anakin's shadow was not manipulated with CGI to make it look like Vader's.

The only things he mentioned about Dooku, is that during the battle with Yoda that he's CGI in many scenes. Darth Sidious isn't a major part of the movie though, since he's not even revealed in the movie at all until the end. That's when you can expect the comments about him.

Be warned though, Ricky McCallum has some annoyingly smug comments in this commentary again. Like how he enjoyed casting the roles of the sexy ladies for the night club, and that his name should have come first in the end credits. :rolleyes: :stupid:

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Rogue II
09-03-2002, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by DeadEye


And Pendo, I don't know what language that VHS back is in. It looks similar to German but isn't...Dutch or Scandinavian, perhaps?

If you zoom in close enough, it says Netherlands on the bottom.

Darth Trymybestus
09-03-2002, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Well, they talk a little bit about the commentary on the AICN review. So that would be what I suggest reading if you want a sneak-peek at the commentary. One of the best parts is that Lucas finally ends the controversy, and says that Anakin's shadow was not manipulated with CGI to make it look like Vader's.

The only things he mentioned about Dooku, is that during the battle with Yoda that he's CGI in many scenes. Darth Sidious isn't a major part of the movie though, since he's not even revealed in the movie at all until the end. That's when you can expect the comments about him.

Be warned though, Ricky McCallum has some annoyingly smug comments in this commentary again. Like how he enjoyed casting the roles of the sexy ladies for the night club, and that his name should have come first in the end credits. :rolleyes: :stupid:

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

ahhhhhh Rick McCallum, he talks a lot doesn't he?! :) wow, how many times did he swear in the "Beginning" documentary?
I'm really looking forward to seeing how they did Yoda.
I heard that ILM messed about with the software and gave Yoda a "marilyn monroe" effect by making his robe move about as if there was a fan blowing at him which will look HILARIOUS!
It will probably show how they made a scene from Empire Strikes Back with a CG Yoda & then showed to Lucas to show him that it could be done.
When do you think we'll hear more about Disk 2 JJB???

Pendo
09-04-2002, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Darth Trymybestus
ahhhhhh Rick McCallum, he talks a lot doesn't he?! :) wow, how many times did he swear in the "Beginning" documentary?

NONE :cry:. All swearing was cut out of the Region 2 version of the DVD :(. It's so unfair :(:(:cry::(.


Originally posted by Darth Trymybestus
I'm really looking forward to seeing how they did Yoda.
I heard that ILM messed about with the software and gave Yoda a "marilyn monroe" effect by making his robe move about as if there was a fan blowing at him which will look HILARIOUS!

Hehe, sounnds funny :). Wonder if it would appear on the blooper reel (even though the AICN review says there are no CGI surprises on it :(). I hope it is on the blooper reel, or perhaps during the end credits of the Deleted Scenes documentary, there were some funny stuff on that :D.

PENDO!

Pendo
09-04-2002, 12:56 PM
Here is some stunning artwork on a brochure advertising the DVD. I got these from TheForce.Net.

PENDO!

Pendo
09-04-2002, 12:58 PM
Here's another. Note that the VHS will also be released in a box set. Also looks like the classic trillogy SE will be making a re-release :rolleyes:.

PENDO!

Pendo
09-04-2002, 01:00 PM
And here's the last. I can't wait until my local stores are decorated with this stuff :D!

PENDO!

Beast
09-04-2002, 01:07 PM
Pendo, they bleeped him on the Region 1 disc as well. They dropped the audio out everytime he swore, so you aren't missing anything. But yes, he said the "F-word" about 7 or 8 times in the 1 hour documentary. Can you imagine how many times he must have said it in the 599 hours that wasn't included on the disc. :eek: :crazed: :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
09-04-2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Pendo, they bleeped him on the Region 1 disc as well. They dropped the audio out everytime he swore, so you aren't missing anything. But yes, he said the "F-word" about 7 or 8 times in the 1 hour documentary. Can you imagine how many times he must have said it in the 599 hours that wasn't included on the disc. :eek: :crazed: :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

At least you actually see him swear, we didn't even get that! The whole scene was cut out completley. I don't even know where abouts he starts swearing, is it after the storm in Tunisia? Why can't all Regions of DVD be exactly the same :frus:??? The BBFC has got to be the most strict film certification organisation in the world, I REALLY hate it :mad:. I just hope it sorts itself out soon and realises that children aren't as stupid as they think :frus:.

PENDO!

Beast
09-04-2002, 02:15 PM
That sucks Pendo, I knew that the BBFC was strict, and that was before they made Lucas cut the headbutt, but bleeped swearing even gets cut? :stupid: And yes, his first swear I believe is after the Tunisian storm, I think he says, "This is F*****g heartbreaking."

I hate the whole Region encoding stuff anyway, due to the fact there is alot of things in Region 2 and Region 4 that I am intrested in. Currently, the Region encoding thing is on shaky ground, so hopefully it will collapse soon. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Trymybestus
09-04-2002, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
That sucks Pendo, I knew that the BBFC was strict, and that was before they made Lucas cut the headbutt, but bleeped swearing even gets cut? :stupid: And yes, his first swear I believe is after the Tunisian storm, I think he says, "This is F*****g heartbreaking."

I hate the whole Region encoding stuff anyway, due to the fact there is alot of things in Region 2 and Region 4 that I am intrested in. Currently, the Region encoding thing is on shaky ground, so hopefully it will collapse soon. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

JarJar you are correct, the whole region thing sucks but I did read that it's kinda coming apart.. yay! :D
The region 2 of Blackhawk Down rocks though, it's got 2 disks unlike the region 1 but yeah, NO headbutt for us!
The thing is.. a few seconds before the headbutt, Obi Wan kicks Jango in the face which is just as vicious as the headbutt :confused:
Ah well, hopefully oneday, I'll buy the region 1 DVD :)

Beast
09-04-2002, 03:52 PM
Yeah, but Region 1 is getting 3-disc BlackHawk Down S.E. Set next year, that will include more stuff then what you guys are getting in your 2-disc set. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Trymybestus
09-04-2002, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Yeah, but Region 1 is getting 3-disc BlackHawk Down S.E. Set next year, that will include more stuff then what you guys are getting in your 2-disc set. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Ahhh this region stuff needs to end soon! I hope it will end before Lucas releases the original trilogy, I would ideally prefer to buy them just once.
I wonder how clear the picture will be on the original trilogy DVD's, I've only recently starting getting DVD's, I only own 2.. Full Metal Jacket and The Phantom Menace, I've got Blackhawk Down and Attack of the Clones on Preorder.
I'm amazed at the quality of the picture of the Phantom Menace, I just wonder if the classic trilogy will look as sharp?

DeadEye
09-04-2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Yeah, but Region 1 is getting 3-disc BlackHawk Down S.E. Set next year, that will include more stuff then what you guys are getting in your 2-disc set. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jar Jar,

Black Hawk Down is my favorite movie that isn't part of a series. I can tell you anything about that movie (except the names of some of those Somalis :crazed: )
Anyway, do you know what's on the 3-disc set? And what's on the existing 2-disc set? The only ones around here have 1 disc only.

Beast
09-04-2002, 04:33 PM
I'm glad you like it. I wasn't all that impressed, but I saw the info about the 3-disc set and posted it in the BlackHawk Down DVD thread. You can find all the info that I have about it, contained in there. There is no existing 2-disc set for Region 1, it's a Region 2 release. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DeadEye
09-04-2002, 04:35 PM
What is region 1 and region 2 anyway?

Also, Jar Jar, take no offense but why would you be impressed? From what I've seen of your DVD list you own no war movies at all. I take it it's not your cup of tea...but make no mistake, Black Hawk Down is the only movie out right now that accurately depicts modern war.

Beast
09-04-2002, 04:40 PM
Region 1 is North America,, and Region 2 is England. I have a post around here somewhere about the different regions. :)

I don't take offense, I tried to like it and I even watched it again to give it a chance. When it comes to movies about war, I would rather see it focus more on the stories of the people involved, then making it all a great big battle.

So no, they are not my cup of tea. But there are a few movies that deal with war that I do enjoy. Kelly's Heroes and Forrest Gump are excellent movies. And Schindler's List is a movie that I recommend everyone see. I'm just waiting for the DVD release.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DeadEye
09-04-2002, 05:06 PM
Actually I haven't seen Kelly's Heroes or Schindler's List. And Jar Jar, Black Hawk Down did a wonderful job of conveying the soldiers' individual stories! Don't forget that it really happened. :)
And just out of sheer, morbid curiousity, where did you post the Black Hawk Down DVD thread? I've looked in every forum and can't find it. :stupid:

Beast
09-04-2002, 05:14 PM
Add those to the list of movies we have been suggesting to you since the beginning. Especially Schindler's List, but be prepared. Some people get really depressed and upset when they watch that movie. Both actually happened also, from what I remember of Kelly's Heroes. :)

I know, but they still centered the whole story primarily on the war, and I would rather they dealt more with the people's lives. It's just a personal choice, that I prefer movies to be alot more about the story, and less about how much guns and blood they can toss into them.

This is way off topic, so I will give you the link you asked for. You could have easily found it by searching the Movies - Other section for Black Hawk Down DVD. But that is beside the point. :)

http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10130

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

corporal AMF
09-04-2002, 06:43 PM
The thread is really longer, so I'm not sure if anyone posted it before:
From www.episode-x.com :


The upcoming Attack of the Clones DVD does indeed feature some differences compared to the version that was shown in theaters this summer.

The biggest modification would be the extended confession scene in the garage at the Lars Homestead:

At the point where the scene usually cuts, we instead get a longer glimpse of Padmé still standing there, hanging on a balance point between her love for Anakin and his evil deed he has just confessed to her. Seemingly making up her mind, we witness how Padmé sympathetically tries to soothe Anakin. Kneeling down, she tells him that "to be angry is to be human". To a new musical cue of Palpatine's theme swelling in the background, Anakin replies "I'm a Jedi. I know I'm better than this."

A smaller, yet welcomed change is the addition of some groaning sounds of Padmé after having fallen out of the Gunship, as the Clonetrooper runs up to her.

Moviegoers who weren't fortunate enough to catch Episode II in a digital theatre will be glad to know that on the DVD during the wedding scene we get to see Padmé grasp Anakin's mechno hand, instead of merely seeing the latter dangling at his waist.

The DVD hits stores November 12th.

Beast
09-04-2002, 06:50 PM
Yep corporal AMF. I posted about those changes about two pages back. Including a couple that they don't have listed. November is going to be torture waiting for. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

corporal AMF
09-04-2002, 07:00 PM
Did I lost my way somewhere.......It seems like yes.....!!!
Well U' re right.....November is far from today!! :D

DeadEye
09-04-2002, 07:20 PM
Jar Jar, thanks for posting the link. However, although I don't mean to sound like a moron, I had searched the Movies--Other forum and couldn't find that thread! :stupid:

Beast
09-06-2002, 04:10 PM
Another DVD review is up for Disc 1 of the AOTC's DVD set. And it includes a ton of screenshots. The pain of waiting for November is taking a toll on me. :)

http://www.lightsoutentertainment.com/dvd/reviews/reviews.php?DvdId=350

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DeadEye
09-06-2002, 07:12 PM
Jar Jar,

Is it me or is the image quality of the DVD shots superior to those from the movie in theaters? It sure looks like it!

Beast
09-06-2002, 07:18 PM
Well, this explains that:

Attack of the Clones, mastered directly from the digital source by THX for superior sound and picture quality, presented in Dolby 5.1 Surround EX (English) and Dolby 2.0 Surround (English, Spanish and French)

In this case the image quality is so impressive, because instead of transfering from an actual physical film print of the movie to DVD. They transfered the digital version directly to DVD. So the image should look better then the theater, since it's a digital version of the film. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DeadEye
09-06-2002, 07:43 PM
That's awesome. But wasn't TPM filmed digitally in parts? None of it looks nearly as good as this does.

Beast
09-06-2002, 07:49 PM
I will have to check thru my info, but I know that a digital version of the print was made, and TPM was shown digitally at a few theaters. But when it came time for the DVD, it was decided to transfer the movie to DVD from the film print so that it would match the rest of the films better. I see that that idea was abandoned, since E2 is a direct digital transfer. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DeadEye
09-06-2002, 09:00 PM
Well, the Ep2 DVD shots are looking really nice.
Actually, the TPM DVD image quality really isn't all that great...above all else, the lightsabers look like crap! Their color is faded, not vibrant like in AOTC.

Pendo
09-07-2002, 10:41 AM
Thanx for the link JJB :D. Sounds really great! The quality looks superb, the best ever :D!!!

PENDO!

DeadEye
09-07-2002, 10:59 AM
Pendo, I've gotta agree!!!
This DVD just might surpass my Black Hawk Down DVD in the category of Most Times I've Watched It...:)

Pendo
09-07-2002, 01:15 PM
Does anyone know if the release date for the UK version has been changed? Amazon.co.uk have AOTC DVD listed as a 2nd November release, it was listed as 11th the other week...hmmm, very interesting! Check it out here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005RDPR/qid=1031422351/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_2_1/026-9531208-8102012).

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
09-07-2002, 05:26 PM
I WISH!

No I think it's a mistake, it's definatly the 11th.

KingOfSting
09-08-2002, 12:57 AM
is anyone planning on buying either the DVD or VHS two pack? I personally hope that both the VHS and DVD include an offer to mail away for just the box, like JP3 had an offer to mail away for the JP Trilogy Box. Also I hope the classic trilogy is being re-released on VHS , so perhaps I'll finally get the widescreen version!

corporal AMF
09-11-2002, 02:34 AM
Yep KingSting....Wide is Better

Pendo
09-11-2002, 02:02 PM
Have you guys checked out the Promotional Trailer for the DVD. Click here (http://dvdmovies.ign.com/dvd/video/episode2trailer1.asf) to download it.

PENDO!

Jek Porky 2002
09-11-2002, 02:43 PM
Where did you find it Pendo, I'm having trouble downloading it?

Pendo
09-11-2002, 02:51 PM
Sorry I forgot to say :rolleyes:. I found out about it on TheForce.Net, click here (http://www.theforce.net/episode2/index.html#18078).

What can I say... the DVD looks F***ING BRILLIANT!!!!!!!! And we get a sneek peek at some of the deleted scenes, documentrys and commentary :D:D:D. November 11th won't come soon enough!

PENDO!

Battle Droid
09-11-2002, 03:14 PM
SWEET!:eek: thanks Pendo. :D

Pendo
09-11-2002, 03:20 PM
Here's some titles of deleted scenes that are seen in the trailer:
"Padmé addresses the Senate"
"Jedi Temple Analysis Room"
"Anakin and Padmé on trial"

By the looks of it there is also a scene of the deleted Jedi temple landing platform (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/imageattack/2002/09/imageattack20020910.html), and also a scene in Padmé's Naboo Villa. They all look pretty cool :D.

PENDO!

Battle Droid
09-12-2002, 08:25 PM
Hopefully the Trade Federation Core Ship Raid is on there as well!

Good to see the trial is on there, it looks to be a pretty cool scene and more of Poggle and his cool language.

mini-rock
09-13-2002, 12:06 AM
I hope the "Lost 20" scene makes it back in too.

Pendo
09-13-2002, 10:01 AM
Have you guys checked out this site (http://www.starwarsfan.org/prequels/news/index.shtml#newsitem1031781006,95216)? It claims to have the complete list of cut scenes. It looks like a pretty good list, I hope it's true :).

PENDO!

Battle Droid
09-13-2002, 11:07 AM
I hope that list is true, thanks again Pendo. :D

Battle Droid
09-13-2002, 11:10 AM
I wonder if the raid scene would include the Space battle?

Pendo
09-13-2002, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Battle Droid
I wonder if the raid scene would include the Space battle?

That would be cool :D! But if the Special Effects are not completed on the space battle I doubt they will complete them. It would also be cool to see the Battle Droids deactivate when the controls are destroyed, but I doubt that will be shown either. I think it will just be their raid that will be shown.

PENDO!

corporal AMF
09-14-2002, 10:33 PM
The complete list now includes:

Enhanced scenes in the Jedi Library

A longer, more intense battle between Anakin & Obi-Wan and Count Dooku

A raid on the a Trade Federation ship

Mace Windu and Obi-Wan on the Jedi Star fighter Launch Platform

Obi-Wan consults with a PK-4 Analysis Droid

Anakin and Padmé being brought before the Separatists -

Anakin and Padmé, probably at the Naberrie Family Home -

Padmé Addresses the Senate following her brush with death on the Coruscant Landing Platform

Directly from :
http://www.swmovies.net/episode-ii/news/#020913,2230,00280

Jek Porky 2002
09-15-2002, 08:23 AM
Most of them are trimmed scenes though!

Beast
09-16-2002, 03:30 PM
The Digital Bits' sources update today had info as to the deleted scenes as well. It won't be an extended Dooku/Obi/Ani battle, it will be the Dooku/Yoda saber battle where Dooku uses 2 sabers and such. :)

And finally today, we've got what our sources are telling us is the final deleted scene list for the Star Wars: Episode II DVD. Scenes in yellow have already been confirmed:

1. Padme addresses the Senate
2. Obi-Wan talks with the Analysis Droids
3. Obi-Wan learns of the "Lost Twenty" Jedi
4. Obi-Wan and Mace discuss Anakin at the Starfighter Hangar
5. Anakin and Padme with Padme's Family
6. Anakin and Padme on Trial on Geonosis
7. Extended version of the Yoda/Dooku lightsaber duel
8. Jedi Raid on the Droid Control Ship

If the rest of that list pans out... that's a damn cool list of deleted material. Rumor is the extended Yoda/Dooku duel features Dooku fighting with two lightsabers. Just having ANY more of short stack in action is cool to us...

Jek, none of these really fall into scene trims. Scene trims are usually under a minute long, all of these should be pretty long. Most of these run well over that time. The only one that really is even close to a trim is the extended Dooku/Yoda fight. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
09-16-2002, 03:35 PM
I would have thought that the raid and the talk about the lost 20 would have been counted as trimmed.

corporal AMF
09-16-2002, 03:44 PM
Anyone knows what scenes are into the 'real' movie, not deleted in the 2nd disc?

Is it a 'Coruscant Taxi' type of scene added?

Rogue II
09-16-2002, 03:49 PM
I wonder any deleted scenes will add some light on Sifo-Dyas.

The Jedi Raid on the Control Ship sounds cool. I was hoping they would include that one.

Any word on how much extra footage this is?

corporal AMF
09-16-2002, 03:56 PM
I believe this scene should've been restored into the movie.....it's way to cool...








We must join him Gandal.......eh Obi Wan......

Beast
09-16-2002, 04:04 PM
Jek, The Lost 20 does sorta fall into a trimmed catagory, but it's longer then a minute so it's more of a deleted scene. The reason it's more a scene, is because they discuss Dooku and the Lost 20, and not the location of Kamino.

As for the Droid Control Ship raid, there is no way that can be considered a scene trim. The action takes place outside the arena, there for requiring a different location and sets to film in. If they show Plo Koon getting shot by the Destroyer droid in the raid, it will again prove that deleted scenes are not canon. :)

There have been very few minor changes to the actual movie. I mentioned it and someone else did as well a few pages back. It's the digital version of the movie, so does have Padme holding Anakin's robotic hand. It also has some more easily scene damage added to Jango's Jetpack, and Padme's waking up scene after falling from the gunship has been altered to be less funny. :)

I doubt that more light will be added to Sifo-Dyas, unless it's done so in the Audio Commentary. He seems to be nothing more then a Red Herring tossed into the mix for to confuse people. We know that he was a real Jedi Master who was killed over 10 years ago. :)

As for how long the deleted scenes run. Well, I'm going to say atleast 20-30 minutes. I think they will be on-par with the length of the E1 deleted scenes, but I don't have the disc in my player at the moment so I can't add them up. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Vellner
09-16-2002, 04:47 PM
double post...sorry

Darth Vellner
09-16-2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by hango fett
let's just say i like a full screen as much as a full glass of choclate milk!
h.


Thats a JOKE!...right???


WIDESCREEN = Good! Whole Picture :happy:

FullScreen = BAD! Picture is Cut Off :mad:


LOOK!

Pendo
09-19-2002, 11:34 AM
I have just found out that the Episode I and II boxset will also be released in widescreen :D. Blackstar.co.uk (http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7000000074067) have it listed for a 11th November release (looks like they have also corrected the release date :)).
I KNEW they couldn't NOT release the box set in Widescreen.

I will probably get my box set in Region 1 so I can have all the stuff cut out of the UK versions of the DVD.

PENDO!

Beast
09-19-2002, 12:46 PM
Thanks for the info, Pendo. Glad to see that they are going to do the boxset in WS. I don't really need another copy, but it doesn't hurt to have. Especially since it will likely be discontinued in 2006 for the Star Wars Archival Edition Boxset. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
09-21-2002, 09:07 AM
Will we here Plo Koon talk in the Droid Ship scene?

Pendo
09-23-2002, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
Will we here Plo Koon talk in the Droid Ship scene?

Yes! Here's the scene from the script:


MACE WINDU runs to the center of the arena and fights back-to-back with OBI-WAN, as they swipe and mangle DROIDS.

OBI-WAN
Someone's got to - shut down -
these droids.

MACE WINDU
Don't worry! It's being - taken
care of!

EXT. GEONOSIS, FEDERATION STARSHIP - DAY
KI-ADI-MUNDI leads a raiding party of about TWENTY JEDI through the lines of parked Battle Starships. They cut a swath through masses of DROIDS until they arrive at the Command Starship. Some JEDI fall. The rest cut their way up the ramps and into the Command Ship.

INT. COMMAND FEDERATION STARSHIP, CORRIDORS - DAY
KI-ADI-MUNDI and teh surviving JEDI fight their way through the corridors of the Command Ship, deflecting laser bolts, slicing DROIDS.

INT. COMMAND FEDERATION STARSHIP, CONTROL BRIDGE - DAY
THEY burst onto the bridge and chop down the COMMAND DROIDS. The NEIMOIDIANS flee in all directions. KI-ADI-MUNDI leans over the control panel. He locates the illuminated master switch and punches down on it. It goes dark. Instantly, all the DROIDS on the Starship and all the DROIDS in the arena FREEZE!

There is a moment of stunned silence, then the JEDI CHEER. One the bridge, PLO KOON claps KI-ADI-MUNDI on the back.

PLO KOON
We've done it! Now we have a
chance!

Suddenly, there is a harsh BEEPING SOUND. All the DROIDS on the Starship and all the DROIDS in the arena start fighting again! KI-ADI-MUNDI stares in disbelief and dismay.

KI-ADI-MUNDI
The system's off but they're still
active. That's a new feature. They
are independent of the control
system.

EXT. GEONOSIS, EXECUTION ARENA - DAY
MACE WINDU, OBI-WAN, ANAKIN, PADME and an exhausted group of about TWENTY JEDI stand in the center of the arena surrounded by a ring of BATTLE DROIDS. The bloodied sand around them is strewn with the bodies of DEAD GEONOSIANS, SHATTERED DROIDS and JEDI.


PENDO!

Beast
09-23-2002, 04:23 PM
Watch all the people that have been giddy as hell, wanting so bad to hear Plo Koon talk, and be disapointed. Watch him have some really odd voice, or somthing. I hope not, but I don't think the anticipation for hearing his voice will be worth it when he's finally heard saying somthing. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

mini-rock
09-23-2002, 06:14 PM
If Plo sounds anything like he did in Obi-Wan for XBOX I'd be happy.

Darth Trymybestus
09-23-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Watch all the people that have been giddy as hell, wanting so bad to hear Plo Koon talk, and be disapointed. Watch him have some really odd voice, or somthing. I hope not, but I don't think the anticipation for hearing his voice will be worth it when he's finally heard saying somthing. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

He does have kind of an odd voice in Galactic Battlegrounds Clone Campaigns, he sounds kinda like a robotic version of Emperor Palpatine :)
I wonder how accurate that is, I guess it's kinda EU but also, it's based on the movie and I don't think they'd have an entirely different voice... ah time will tell!

Pendo
09-24-2002, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Watch all the people that have been giddy as hell, wanting so bad to hear Plo Koon talk, and be disapointed. Watch him have some really odd voice, or somthing. I hope not, but I don't think the anticipation for hearing his voice will be worth it when he's finally heard saying somthing. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Hehe, in a way I hope everyone IS dissapointed with his voice, it would be funny :D.

I can't wait to hear Orn Free Taa talk :D.

For anyone who wants it, here is the script for the Senate Scene:

EXT. SENATE BUILDING - DAY
The massive Senate Building glistens in the afternoon sun. Small patches of fog have still to burn off.

INT. SENATE CHAMBER - DAY
The vast rotunda is buzzing with chatter. MAS AMEDDA, the Supreme Chancellor's majordomo, tries to quiet things down as PALPATINE confers with an AIDE, UV GIZEN, riding a small one man floating scooter.

MAS AMEDDA
Order! We shall have order! The motion
for the Republic to commission an army
takes precedent, and that is what we
will vote on at this time.

Everything quiets down. The AIDE disperses, and SUPREME CHANCELLOR PALPATINE steps to the podium.

PALPATINE
...My esteemed colleagues, excuse
me... I have just received some
tragic and disturbing news. Senator
Amidala of the Naboo system... Has
been assassinated!

There is a shock silence in the vast arena.

PALPATINE
(continued)
This grievous blow is especially
personal to me. Before I became
Chancellor, I served Amidala when
she was Queen. She was a great
leader who fought for justice, not
only in this honourable assembly,
but also on her home planet. She
was so loved she could have been
elected queen for life. She
believed in public service, and
she fervently believed in
democracy. Her death is a great
loss to us all. We will all mourn
her as a relentless champion of
freedom... and as a dear friend.

There is a moment of silence. ASK AAK, the SENATOR of MALASTARE, moves his pod into the centre of the arena.

SENATOR ASK AAK
How many more Senators will die
before this civil strife ends! We
must confront these rebels now,
and they need an army to do it.

A second pod moves into the centre of the area with DARSANA, the
AMBASSADOR OF GLEE ANSELM.

AMBASSADOR DARSANA
Why weren't the Jedi able to stop
this assassination? We are no
longer safe, under their protection.

Senator ORN FREE TAA swings forward in his pod.

ORN FREE TAA
The Republic needs more security
now! Before it comes to war.

PALPATINE
Must I remind the Senator from
Malastare that negotiations are
continuing with the separatists.
Peace is our objective here... not
war.

The SENATORS yell pro and con. MAS AMEDDA tries to calm things down. SENATOR PADME AMIDALA, with CAPTAIN TYPHO, JAR JAR, and DORME, manoeuvre her pod into the centre of the vast arena.

AMIDALA
My noble colleagues, I concur with
the Supreme Chancellor. At all
costs, we do not want war!

The Senate goes quiet, then there is an outburst of cheering and
applause.

PALPATINE
It is with great surprise and
joy the chair recognises the
Senator from Naboo, Padmé Amidala.

PADMÉ
Less than an hour ago, an
assassination attempt was made
against my life. One of my
bodyguards and six others were
ruthlessly and senselessly
murdered. I was the target but,
more importantly, I believe this
security measure before you, was
the target. I have led the
opposition to build an army... but
there is someone in this body who
will stop at nothing to assure it's
passage...

Many of the SENATORS boo and yell at SENATOR AMIDALA.

PADMÉ
(continuing)
I warn you, if you vote to create
this army, war will follow. I
have experienced the misery of war
first-hand; I do not wish to do it
again.

There is sporadic yelling for and against her statements.

PADMÉ
Wake up, Senators... you must wake
up! If you offer the separatists
violence, they can only show us
violence in return! Many will
lose their lives. All will lose
their freedom. This decision
could very well destroy the very
foundation of our great Republic.
I pray you do not let fear push
you into a disastrous decision.
Vote down this security measure,
which is nothing less than a
declaration of war! Does anyone
here want that? I cannot believe
they do.

There is an undercurrent of booing... and groaning. SENATOR ORN FREE TAA moves his pod next to AMIDALA.

ORN FREE TAA
My motion to defer the vote must
be dealt with first. That is the
rule of law.

AMIDALA looks angry and frustrated. PALPATINE gives her a sympathetic look.

PALPATINE
Due to the lateness of the hour
and the seriousness of this
motion, we will take up these
matters tomorrow. Until then, the
Senate stands adjourned.

EXT. EXECUTIVE QUARTERS BUILDING - DAY
The giant towers of the Republic Executive Building seem to reach the heavens. Traffic clogs the smoggy sky.

PENDO!

Beast
09-24-2002, 05:26 PM
Well, HomeTheaterForum.com got back from a trip to California the other day and they have news about the Episode II DVD. Some good news, and some bad news. The good news is that the DVD looks and sounds wonderful. The bad news is that the Lost 20 Speech, Extended Saber Duel between Yoda and Dooku, and the Droid Control Ship Raid are not included in the deleted scenes. Here's a couple posts from Ronald Epstein, the owner of the site and Dan Beecher, a staff member. :(

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97026


Ronald Epstein:
We were proud to be among the first to have a look at the upcoming release of the Episode II DVD and its many supplements. I am pleased to tell all of you that the transfer of this DVD has set a new benchmark. Transferred directly from its digital source with absolutely no film middleman, this transfer looks almost as good as high-definition. Certainly, no live-action DVD to date can match the purity of this transfer. As for supplements, well, there was plenty for us to watch including nearly 10 deleted scenes. Most of those scenes included extended dialogue that slowed the pacing of the film, but two scenes in particular were of immense interest. The first was a scene between Obi-Wan and Mace Windu along a elevated ramp, where the young Obi-Wan expresses concern for Anakin's attitude changes and the fact that he has shown emotional interest in Senator Amidala. The second sequence of interest involves Amidala bringing Anakin home to her parents and sister. It is here that we begin to see how much closer to a boyfriend
Anakin is becoming to the Senator. All of these deleted sequences contain lengthy introductions from George Lucas and Rick McCallum.

There is an absolutely hilarious R2D2 mockumentary called Beneath The Dome, which chronicles the rise and fall of our droid friend. Did you know that R2D2 used to hang out with Richard Dreyfuss in his early years, only to snub the actor after becoming jealous of Richard's success? How about the years where R2D2 performed in dance recitals and stage shows? You'll be amazed as Francis Ford Coppola talks about how he begged R2D2 to play
Michael Corleone in The Godfather, only to be turned down by the droid. Of course, fame comes with a price, as we see a down-and-out R2D2 on skid row living beneath newspapers. This will certainly be a feature of the DVD that will be talked about for months to come.

Of course, there are the usual Easter Eggs. One of those eggs can be found in the exact same manner as The Phantom Menace DVD. Here you'll find a collection of side-splitting outtakes including lots of clumsy falls by Hayden Christensen.


Dan Beecher:
Attack of the Clones and Ice Age really are, for lack of a better word, disgustingly impressive in every way. What we watched of Clones just showed it off to be flawless on all counts, audio and video. The detail in clothing especially is really a sight to behold, but what must be said is that the CG REALLY stands out, more so than I found theatrically 5 times (4 of those viewings of which were the DLP). In watching the Yoda vs Dooku duel, I was noticing the little CG Dooku tweaks that went over my head in theatres.

The DVD transfer holds up better with the films darker scenes than both 35mm and DLP presentations did. Everything is a lot more balanced for the DVD presentation, and the sound too feels far more impressive in the confines of a small screening room (and eventually our HTs) than it did in a large theatre auditorium. Impressive, most impressive.

The deleted scenes on disc 2 are all uninspiring save for maybe the one with Obi and Mace on the landing platform, which I liked really only for the inventive set up of the hangar and how the Jedi Starfighter platform stretches out into the open allowing the ship to take off. This scene is actually an alternate/early version of the scene that exists in the film with Obi, Mace and Yoda in which Obi Wan questions Anakin's field of thought. It was changed because this original doesnt have Yoda, though much of the dialogue is the same. Visualy, this scene was going in a nice direction...

I don't know if the missconceptions (read; fanboy lies) about additional deleted scenes of the "lost 20" "expanded duel" and "expanded Jedi raid on geonosis" have continued on during our being away last week, but if they have, put them to rest now, they aint there. Like Ep1, we're not given all the deleted material which I foresee being the example use by those fans who truly feel they must have something to complain about with this release (no one will dare knock the transfer and sound). I am happy enough with that is here, and the Analaysis Droid scene, whilst utterly pointless, was nice visuall nevertheless (even if they do look like Jonny 5!).

The 3 minor tweaks to the actual film I am rather fond of. The 2 line extension to Anakin's confession to Padme is not really needed to be sure, but it's nice and does no harm. The fix to Padme in the sand now just plays out SOOOOOOO much better. You'll wonder why it was never like this in the first place. The other tweak is a cg tweak most wont even notice...

Van Ling has done another nice job in producing the DVD. Again we're treated to 3 alternating menus, this time Coruscant, Kamino and Geonosis. Coruscant remains my favorite of the three variations. Disc one plays host to what must now be the obligatory 1138 easter egg and proves you can never stop laughing at Hayden Christensen falling over.

We watched about 15 minues of the 45 min From Puppets to Pixels documentary (one of a few docs on disc 2) and this is shaping up REALLY nicely. I think those who have reservations over there being now single lengthy documentary this time round will be very pleased with what's on offer here. It's all shaping up to be MORE extensive than anything on TPM given we now have some solid in depth material focusing on indivudual elements of production.

And finally, as Ron said, R2 Beneath the Dome is an absolute hoot. The screening room was roaring with laughter watching this 5 minute preview for what will be a series of spoof web documentaries. Funny, FUNNY stuff. Oh my!


Ronald Epstein:
I'll have a full review closer to release date, but from what I have seen, this transfer looks above and beyond anything you would expect from a live action film on DVD.

As much mixed opinion I have for the industry turning completely towards digital filmmaking, the DVD format greatly benefits in the long run.

The transfer looks immaculate, beautifully crisp and detailed with absolutely -- and I mean absolutely none of the subtle graininess found in film. Scenes take on almost a 3D effect that can be compared to that found on digital game media.

There is no live action DVD to date that looks as good as Episode II. DVD was made for direct from digital transfers like this. Wait
till you see how bright and vivid the lightsabers look during the showdown between Obi-Wan, Anakin and Count Dooku.

An extraordinary transfer for sure!


Dan Beecher:
I was talking about the nine scenes on disc 2. Those additional ones rumoured like the lost 20 are not there. These are probably not in the right order, but you get;

Padme Addressing the Senate
Obi and the Analysis Droids
Padme's Family Dinner scene
Padme's bedroom scene (where anakin views 3d pics of her achivements)
Obi and Mace on the Jedi Landing Platform
Padme/Anakin Address Dooku on Geonosis
Geonosian Council gives sentance on Padme & Anakin

Anyone remember what in the heck the other 2 were?


Dan Beecher:
Greg, this transfer is ANYTHING but terrible. You'll wet yourself when you see it I can assure you... Even those who didnt like the movie wont fail to be impressed.

quote:
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1. Padme addresses the Senate
2. Obi-Wan talks with the Analysis Droids
3. Obi-Wan learns of the "Lost Twenty" Jedi
4. Obi-Wan and Mace discuss Anakin at the Starfighter Hangar
5. Anakin and Padme with Padme's Family
6. Anakin and Padme on Trial on Geonosis
7. Extended version of the Yoda/Dooku lightsaber duel
8. Jedi Raid on the Droid Control Ship

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, but 3, 7 and 8 are all utter BS. We watched the whole deleted scenes sequence in play all mode with interviews preceeding each one. The bogus list doesnt even mention the scene with Anakin and Padme going before Dooku which is part of the deleted scenes (comes seperate before the Trial scene) or the scene in Padme's bedroom on Naboo.

Dan

PS: I am starting to think Lucas in changing aspects of Dooku's past that may be revealed in Ep III, hence us not being given the lost 20 scene (if it was indeed shot). Right now I take it as something forbidden to us just as the Adrien Dunbar Bail Organa scenes from Ep1 were.


Dan Beecher:
Barry, it was none of those possibilites, although the 1138 gag reel blooper does have an outtake from the bit where Anakin tells Padme to stay on the ship once they land on Geonosis.

I actually remembered one other. The first of the Naboo extensions is the extended arrival scene where Padme talks more about her past as they walk across the courtyard of the royal grounds with bags and R2 in tow.

So from memory;

-Padme Addressing the Senate
-Obi and the Analysis Droids
-Extended arrival on Naboo
-Padme's Family Dinner scene
-Padme's bedroom scene (where anakin views 3d pics of her achivements)
-Obi and Mace on the Jedi Landing Platform
-Padme/Anakin Address Dooku on Geonosis
-Geonosian Council gives sentance on Padme & Anakin

There's 8 for you. That may have been it, though I thought 9 were on offer. I really can not recall. The saving grace of the tedious Padme family scenes is the gorgeous slinky blue outfit Portman wears. Oh my goodness....

Dan


Dan Beecher:
Right, 8 total it is then. As the youngest on this trip, I'd fear to put memory issues down to anything other than Jet lag... Yeah, that's what it is, Pat... jet lag.

So to recap, the 8 are:

-Padme Addressing the Senate
-Obi and the Analysis Droids
-Extended arrival on Naboo
-Padme's Family Dinner scene
-Padme's bedroom scene (where anakin views 3d pics of her achivements)
-Obi and Mace on the Jedi Landing Platform
-Padme/Anakin Address Dooku on Geonosis
-Geonosian Council gives sentance on Padme & Anakin

Sven/Terrell,

Sound wise with Clones, it's out of this world. I was very fond of the mix theatrically, but I know some were not. Watching the Yoda/Dooku dual in the private screening room at Fox (which was gorgeous, but not huge by any means) showed the mix really becoming an absolute work of art within the confines of a smaller auditorium and obviously, our home theatre rooms come November. Incredibly open front soundstage, some glorious LFE, surrounds going loopy with saber noise, solid dialogue from the centre. Just great stuff.

Dan

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Battle Droid
09-24-2002, 07:43 PM
BAH! the best scenes aren't even on there!:frus: :frus: :frus:

Beast
09-24-2002, 07:50 PM
Well, if rumors are true Lucas feels the "Lost 20 Speech" should never have been cut in the first place. So maybe that will make it's way back into the film for the Archival Edition. The cuts from Dooku and Yoda's Battle is a shame, but I was kind of expecting that to end up happening. After all the E1 DVD never included the cut Maul vs. Obi stuff. And the Droid Control Ship Raid probably wasn't filmed, likely dropped early on, before anything was shot. Especially since it's not in the Graphic Novel or the Book, that is the most likely explanation. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

mini-rock
09-24-2002, 07:59 PM
Thanks for posting that post by Ron & Dan JJB. I WANT MY AOTC DVD!!:crazed:

2-1B
09-25-2002, 12:02 AM
I don't care about the Plo/Droid ship scene, no harm there. I'm just excited to get the Padme Family scene, the "trial" and the death sentence. OOH, and what's this about another Padme/Anakin scene? That's a nice bonus too. :)

JarJar, I would LOVE to see the Lost 20 put back in, but perhaps that guy's venture that maybe Lucas wants to change that part of the storyline by leaving it out is more accurate?

Not sure how it would make it back in to the movie unless these guys have not seen the "finished" DVD.

Beast
09-25-2002, 12:09 AM
Caesar, I was talking about the "Archival Editions" DVD's that are supposedly planned for release once all the prequels are finished. The ones where Lucas is supposed to make his final changes to all 6 movies and re-release them in a mega boxset with all new features. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
09-25-2002, 11:48 AM
The official Deleted Scenes list (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2002/09/news20020924.html) is not what we all expected :sur:. No Droid ship raid, No Lost 20, No Extended Yoda v Dooku... What sort of list is that? Don't get me wrong, it is still a cool list of deleted scenes but it could have been ALOT better! I was most looking forward to the lost 20 speech, then the droid ship raid...and NONE of them are in it :(.

PENDO!

Rogue II
09-25-2002, 12:03 PM
Exactly what I was thinking Pendo. I guess I can understand if the Droid Ship Raid was never completed. The Lost 20 would have been interesting, but if those rumors about it conflicting with the Episode III storyline are true, it is for the better. It will be one less inconsistency GL will have to deal with in the long run.

Well, we still have to wait around 47 more days until the DVD is released.

mini-rock
09-25-2002, 12:45 PM
I'm mostley disappointed that the extra Yoda/Dooku scene will not be on the DVD. I doubt it was very long, but IMO the Yoda/ Dooku fight was too short.:)

hango fett
09-25-2002, 04:00 PM
amen, pendo! they suck! i more dooku vs. yoda! here is the list just for the h*** of it.

Padmé Addresses the Senate.
Jedi Temple Analysis Room.
Obi-Wan & Mace - Jedi Landing Platform.
Extended Arrival on Naboo.
Padmé's Parents' House.
Padmé Bedroom.
Dooku Interrogates Padmé.
Anakin and Padmé on Trial.

i suppose it's ok...but could have been 10x better.
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Battle Droid
09-25-2002, 04:20 PM
Episode 1's deleted scenes were better than this, at least they had action in them.

hango fett
09-25-2002, 04:22 PM
yeah...they did! and they were miledly funny too!!!
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Beast
09-25-2002, 04:29 PM
Maybe because most of the cuts for E2 were charecter orientated, instead of action orientated. Of all the deleted scenes for E2, only 1 or 2 of them could even be considered action scenes. That would be the extended Yoda/Dooku battle and the uncompleted Droid Control Ship raid. ;) :D

It's the same as with cut scenes from ANH and ESB, most of the cut stuff from ANH is all charecter orientated, and most of the cut stuff from ESB is action orientated. It just depends on what doesn't work in that particuler movie. So, I think that E2's deleted scenes are fine. The only one that really should have been included was the "Lost 20 speech", but I can understand if Lucas has alternative plans for it. :cool: :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
09-25-2002, 04:41 PM
I hope Lucas WILL put the Lost 20 in the Archival Edition!
What is this Extended Arrival on Naboo scene??? It just seems totaly out of the blue, not expected at all. Does anything interesting actually happen in it :rolleyes:?

My list of wanting to see most is:
8. Extended Arrival on Naboo,
7. Padmé's Parents' House,
6. Padmé Bedroom,
5. Obi-Wan & Mace - Jedi Landing Platform,
4. Jedi Temple Analysis Room,
3. Dooku Interrogates Padmé,
2. Anakin and Padmé on Trial,
1. Padmé Addresses the Senate.

:D

PENDO!

Beast
09-25-2002, 05:15 PM
Since it's not included on the DVD, and I saw it posted over at HTF.com, here is the complete Jedi Archives scene between Jocasta Nu and Obi-Wan Kenobi. The quote includes the Kamino discussion as well, but it does show that there isn't all that much to the "Lost 20 Speech". :D


INT. JEDI TEMPLE, ARCHIVE LIBRARY - DAY

A bronze bust of Count Dooku, stands among a line of other busts of Jedi in the Archive Room. Obi-Wan stands in front of it, studying the striking features of the chiseled face.

On the walls, lighted compter panels seem to stretch to infinity. Farther along the room in the background, five Jedi are seated at tables, studying archive material.

After Obi-Wan studies the bust for a few moments, Madame Jocastu Nu, the Jedi Archivist, is standing next to him. She is an elderly, frail-looking human Jedi. Tough as old boots and smart as a whip.

JOCASTA NU:
Did you call for assistance?

OBI-WAN:
(distracted in thought) Yes… yes, I did…

JOCASTA NU:
He has a powerful face, doesn’t he? He was one of the most brilliant Jedi I have had the privilege of knowing.

OBI-WAN:
I never understood why he quit. Only twenty Jedi have ever left the Order.

JOCASTA NU:
(sighs) The Lost Twenty… And Count Dooku was the most recent and the most painful. No one likes to talk about it. His leaving was a great loss to the Order.

OBI-WAN:
What happened?

JOCASTA NU:
Well, one might say, he was always a bit out of step with the decisions of the Council… much like your old Master, Qui-Gon Jinn.

OBI-WAN:
(surprised) Really?

JOCASTA NU:
Oh, yes. They were alike in many ways. Very individual thinkers… idealists…

Jocasta Nu gazes at the bust.

JOCASTA NU:
(continuing) He was always striving to become a more powerful Jedi. He wanted to be the best. With a lightsaber, in the old style of fencing, he had no match. His knowledge of the Force was… unique. In the end, I think he left because he lost faith in the Republic. He believed that politics were corrupt, and he felt the Jedi betrayed themselves by serving the politicians. He always had very high expectations of government. He disappeared for nine or ten years, then he just showed up recently as the head of the separtist movement.

OBI-WAN:
Interesting… I’m still not sure I understand.

JOCASTA NU:
Well, I’m sure you didn’t call me over here for a history lesson. Are you having a problem, Master Kenobi?

OBI-WAN:
Yes, I’m trying to find a planet system called Kamino. It doesn’t seem to show up on any of the archive charts.

JOCASTA NU:
Kamino? It’s not a system I’m familiar with… let me see…

Jocasta Nu leans over Obi-Wan’s shoulder, looking at the screen.

JOCASTA NU:
(continuing) Are you sure you have the right coordinates?

OBI-WAN:
(nodding) According to my information, it should be in this quadrant somewhere… just south of the Rishi Maze.

Jocasta Nu taps the keyboard and frowns.

JOCASTA NU:
No coordinates? It sounds like the sort of directions you’d get from a street tout… some old miner or Furbog trader.

OBI-WAN:
All three, actually.

JOCASTA NU:
Are you sure it exists?

OBI-WAN:
Absolutely.

JOCASTA NU:
Let me do a gravitational scan.

Obi-Wan and Jocasta Nu study the star map hologram.

JOCASTA NU:
(continuing) There are some inconsistencies here. Maybe the planet you’re seeking was destroyed.

OBI-WAN:
Wouldn’t that be on record?

JOCASTA NU:
It ought to be, unless it was very recent. (shakes her head) I hate to say it, but it looks like the system you’re searching for doesn’t exist.

OBI-WAN:
That’s impossible… perhaps the archives are incomplete.

JOCASTA NU:
The archives are comprehensive and totally secure, my young Jedi. One thing you may be absolutely sure of – if an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist!

Obi-Wan stares at her, then looks back to the map.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Darth Trymybestus
09-25-2002, 05:47 PM
I bet the people who played the Naberrie family are glad that their scenes will be on the DVD, I remember seeing their names on the cast list on Starwars.com. I'm actually really looking forward to the deleted scenes, I think they'll be so much better than the phantom menace ones :)

Beast
10-03-2002, 07:58 PM
Here's a picture of the DVD display and the plans that Wal-Mart has in place for the Nov. 12th release of AOTC's. I found it on TheForce.Net. Enjoy. Can't wait to get some Star Wars cupcakes. ;) :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Pendo
10-04-2002, 08:19 AM
Cool pic, JJB! Thanx :D.

I hope we get stuff like that in the UK version of Wal-Mart :).

PENDO!

Mr. JabbaJohnL
10-04-2002, 04:54 PM
****, my WM has no bakery department!

Jek Porky 2002
10-06-2002, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by Pendo
Cool pic, JJB! Thanx :D.

I hope we get stuff like that in the UK version of Wal-Mart :).

PENDO!

Are you refering to ASDA, Pendo, if so I doubt it very much.

Pendo
10-06-2002, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Jek Porky 2002
Are you refering to ASDA, Pendo, if so I doubt it very much.

Yeah, I doubt it too...:rolleyes:. Not because it's ASDA, but because it's in the UK! We NEVER get ANY good stuff here :(.

PENDO!