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Tycho
10-17-2001, 10:16 PM
Greedo shooting first?

Now Greedo being OLDER than Han? Han wasn't even born until 3 years after TPM, how can Lucas do that to Greedo's character?

Greedo seems to be older than Wald, and so I'd guess we're seeing a teenage Greedo in the cut scenes, and therefore, Greedo would be some 40 years old in ANH. (Vader was 41)

So how is it that in almost 50 years, the (young, new, inexperienced) bounty hunter doesn't know better than to keep Han's hands on the table?

Dumb. That wasn't Greedo. I'm glad it's cut. I refuse to believe it. If that was in the film, it'd be worse than Greedo shooting first.

GEORGE: Leave Greedo alone, damm it! $*#&$#@~!

Mandalorian Candidat
10-18-2001, 11:27 AM
I heard that in the next film Greedo will have a small supporting role as a sort of Hannibalesque character. He opens up a small lunch stand in Mos Espa called "Mad Man Greedo's Pressure Cooker" where he serves his special Rodian burgers to the local yokels.

El Chuxter
10-18-2001, 11:28 AM
I couldn't agree more. It also makes Greedo into something of a sympathetic character, which further ruins the cantina scene. And Ani's dark side came out just fine in the nasty looks he gives the Jedi Council.

As I said in another thread, I shall forever refer to this scene as "Greedo punched first."

Sliver FBI
10-18-2001, 10:55 PM
Why are you so sure that is the same Greedo? I mean, there can be other Rodians called Greedo. Ive seen thousands of humans callee George.:rolleyes:

Iprefer looking at it that way.

JediCole
10-19-2001, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Sliver FBI
Why are you so sure that is the same Greedo? I mean, there can be other Rodians called Greedo. Ive seen thousands of humans callee George.:rolleyes:

Iprefer looking at it that way.

Good point about the name. As far as Greedo's age, how do you know Greedo isn't 100, or 1000? If you are basing assumptions about his age on the dreadful "Tales from Mos Eisly Cantina", then you have to throw Greedo's tale right out the door if Lucas is placing him officially on Tatooine as a slave in his youth rather than on his home planet as in the story. But then that just illustrates the lack of continuity and control in the supposedly tightly controled realm of the Expanded Universe.

For my money the problem is not so much Greedo's age (as even if he is 40 or 50 he may have come late into bounty hunting, not everyone who is in a given profession started in their teens you know), but rather his presence at all. It has the forced and awkward feel of Boba Fett's unnecessary appearance in the revamped Jabba Scene in ANH:SE. Like Boba Fett, Greedo's character is sharply diminished by this scene. Boba Fett is made out to be Jabba's lapdog (who just happened to be handy to answer Vader's call for bounty hunters in the Anoad system) and Greedo has the confusing "young Greedo" connection to the saga. Why does ABSOLUTLY EVERY character have to have a direct connection to the principle characters. Have you read some of thes backstory guides (Star Wars Encyclopedia and Essential Guides)? Even the lowliest Banta podo janitor in Mos Eisley (glimpsed briefly on his way to a mission) is either from Jabba's Palace, a Rebel, soon to be a Rebel, a bounty hunter who knows one of the name bounty hunters personally, or is in some other way directly connected, with the minimal degrees of separation, to one of the core characters (i.e.; had a run in with Han Solo at the Imperial Academy, dated Luke when he was on the rebound from Cammie dumping him, roomed with Yoda at the Jedi Academy, etc.). Can none of these characters simply have a story uniquely their own?

Tycho
10-20-2001, 04:07 AM
I agree with much of what JediCole is saying - (thank you).

However, be forewarned (and I know nothing - it's my speculation) but watch for how I'd guess George is going to tie Han Solo into this whole thing (I posted my theory in Episode 2 spoilers section) but I don't want to offend the sensitive here.

My idea about Han may never come to pass. However, that particular case wouldn't be so terrible, but fit in appropriately into some mythology pattern or another that I'm not cultured enough to point out to you at the moment.

GNT
10-21-2001, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Sliver FBI
Why are you so sure that is the same Greedo? I mean, there can be other Rodians called Greedo. Ive seen thousands of humans callee George.:rolleyes:

Iprefer looking at it that way.


Doesn't Anakin say something along the lines of "You'll come to a great end one day,Greedo" ?

Eternal Padawan
10-21-2001, 11:54 AM
When we initially saw the casting sheets and they referred to Daniel Logan's character as a "mysterious young man" I thought Han Solo was going to be in the movie for sure. I let out an audible groan. Luckily, he is playing someone else...

Grif
10-21-2001, 12:27 PM
I guess Lucas and his team could not find anybody else to pick on.

Mandalorian Candidat
10-22-2001, 05:16 PM
I also heard that in EP3 there's going to be a huge pie fight scene, a la The Great Race. Anakin goes to throw this huge banana cream pie at OB1 but before he gets it off Greedo shows up out of no where and just smacks him with a rhubarb pie upside his head. The rhubarb is so thick and dense that it crushes him, thus requiring his use of the body suit and breathing mask. The Greedo scene will then be needed to be put back into TPM:SE to explain why he needs to get his vengence on Anakin.

Lobito
10-22-2001, 09:28 PM
Concerning the Tales of the Mos Eisley Cantina Book and the DELETED Greedo scene...its just the same...since neither of these appeared in the film they arent canon.

The weird part though is that in the book Anakin wasnt fighting Greedo, but the other kid Rodian...:eek:

Which doesnt matter also cuzz it wasnt in the film...ha:D

GNT
10-26-2001, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by Lobito
The weird part though is that in the book Anakin wasnt fighting Greedo, but the other kid Rodian...:eek:

Which doesnt matter also cuzz it wasnt in the film...ha:D

On Disc 2, Anakin was fighting with Greedo while the other rodian was siting to the side...

Lobito
10-26-2001, 05:38 PM
U see...that means the book and the deleted scene are incompatible. As i said b4...they aren't canon.:D

El Chuxter
03-29-2010, 12:34 AM
This was explained later by saying that Greedo in ANH is the son of Greedo from the TPM cut scene. Apparently, they left Rodia, went to Tatooine, and went back to Rodia, despite the entire family being targeted for death, and they, of course, got killed. Except for Greedo Jr. Who found himself working on Tatooine, where his father got his butt kicked by Darth Vader. Sucks to be a Greedo.

Devo
04-19-2010, 12:29 AM
Haha LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!! Is it possible Tycho anticipated that vid as far back as 2001 with his thread title?