Question about Jorg Sacul

[Hasbro'sBountyHunter]

Someone told me Jorg Sacul's body is just the rehashed body of Biggs Darklighter. Is this true?

[Beast]

Ayep, it's a Biggs/Wedge (from 3-Pack) body. The only thing new is the mediocre head. The X-Wing fighter helmet is re-painted, the blaster is Captain Typho's, and the X-Wing is of course a micro machine. Definatly not worth what people are paying for them. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[JEDIpartner]

Yikes! I thought this was going to be yet ANOTHER extensive thread on that stupid "Jorg Balsac" figure! I'm glad you came to the rescue Jar Jar! Who says Gungans are worthless creatures!

[Beast]

God save us from another thread like that, JEDIpartnr. If I had one wish, I think it would be for every last Jorg Sacul figure to spontaniously combust. Sure would solve alot of probles, don't ya think. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[JEDIpartner]

I agree entirely... that's why I gave that figure the new name...

...I dub thee "Jorg Balsac"! :rolleyes:

[jobi]

Originally posted by JarJarBinks
God save us from another thread like that, JEDIpartnr. If I had one wish, I think it would be for every last Jorg Sacul figure to spontaniously combust. Sure would solve alot of probles, don't ya think. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Not mine...right JarJar:D

[Jayspawn]

Haha! You guys kill me. Is Jorg Balsac related to "Balls" Tessek?

(except Tessek is a very cool figure)

[JEDIpartner]

I think he just MAY be! He's got the beard to hide those tentacles...! :eek:

[Rogue II]

Originally posted by JEDIpartnr
I think he just MAY be! He's got the beard to hide those tentacles...! :eek:

Wow, at first, I didn't read that as "TENTACLES" and it was really bad.:eek:

I'll leave it at that so I don't get banned.


:D

[JEDIpartner]

You know... I was just thinking that as I jumped in here... "tentacles" Hahahahaaaaaa...

[pthfnder89]

Hmmm.... very scary thread :D I'm definitely not gonna shell out $80 for him. Same goes for the Toyfair Vader, not gonna happen. What kills me though is that I was on the Fanclub Website when they went on sale and I figured "Well, if they're releasing it through the Fanclub then they probably have lots of them and I won't have a problem buying it later" so instead of ordering I put my credit card away and left. :mad:

[OriginalBryGuy]

Who says Gungans are worthless creatures!

Almost everone who watched Episode I I think, and that includes JarJarBinks......:rolleyes: but that's not important right now.

The Jorg figure isn't bad, it's just made that way...heh heh...I say pay no more then 80 for it, but do get it sometime, it's a cool figure for anyones star wars collection.

[pthfnder89]

Originally posted by OriginalBryGuy
Who told you it was going to be released through the Fanclub?


Sorry, I was talking about the 25 Anniversary Vader, not Jorg Sacul.:)

[Beast]

OriginalBryGuy, don't bring your attacks into this thread, if you would please. The opinion that gungans are irritating is just that, your opinion. I liked them, and so did many other people. And that includes Mr. Binks. But that's not important right now. ;) :D

And if you would bother to read pthfnder89's post, instead of picking out things to attack, you would notice that he was referring to the Toy Fair Vader in his post. :rolleyes:

This thread wasn't about the value of "Jorg Balsac", you can post in the other thread for that. Jorgie isn't worth $80, now the 12" George Lucas doll, that is worth $80. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[OriginalBryGuy]

OriginalBryGuy, don't bring your attacks into this thread, if you would please. The opinion that gungans are irritating is just that, your opinion. I liked them, and so did many other people. And that includes Mr. Binks. But that's not important right now.

And if you would bother to read pthfnder89's post, instead of picking out things to attack, you would notice that he was referring to the Toy Fair Vader in his post.

This thread wasn't about the value of "Jorg Balsac", you can post in the other thread for that. Jorgie isn't worth $80, now the 12" George Lucas doll, that is worth $80.

Attacks? What are you talking about?

JEDIpartnr said "Gungans are worthless creatures!" and I'd have to agree with that, especially JarJarBinks. His opinion, my opinion....that's what these forums are about JarJar...our free expression of them.

No attacks here dude, it's all in your head.

[icatch9]

Back to a nicer note. A couple of questions about Jorg Sacul. Would you like this figure if you could get it at any Wal Mart? Would you like it if it was a totally new figure of George Lucas in genes and a Flanel with a directors chair, bull horn, and a clip board? Do you not like this figure becaue you don't have one and it costs so much? Are you perhaps jelous that the most popular figure this year is missing from your collection? I'm not pointing fingers or insulting anyone, I just would like to know.

[OriginalBryGuy]

George is a capable director, but hasn't done much "directing" outside the star wars circle. I don't think an actual figure of the actual guy would do much for me personally.

I'd like to see Jorg at Wal-Mart for all the people who don't have it yet.

icatch9, I think you raise some pretty good questions indeed.

[Rogue II]

Originally posted by icatch9
Back to a nicer note. A couple of questions about Jorg Sacul. Would you like this figure if you could get it at any Wal Mart? Would you like it if it was a totally new figure of George Lucas in genes and a Flanel with a directors chair, bull horn, and a clip board? Do you not like this figure becaue you don't have one and it costs so much? Are you perhaps jelous that the most popular figure this year is missing from your collection? I'm not pointing fingers or insulting anyone, I just would like to know.

I'd buy it at Walmart, however, I wouldn't spend more that $10 for it.

I would not buy a regular George Lucas figure. I don't see the point.

I am not a completist so missing this figure does not bother me in the least. The only reason I would buy it at walmart is because he is wearing a rebel pilot uniform and it would look ok in a diorama.

[Beast]

I may buy it, but only for a background X-Wing pilot. It's not a priority for me, I would rather have an Pilot from the actual movie. Red Leader or Gold Leader from ANH would be nice. I'm only intrested in chiefly, movie figures and then EU figures. "Jorg Balsac" is neither, so I couldn't care less about the figure.

I doubt Hasbro would make a real George Lucas figure, so I can't say whether I would buy it or not. I would however buy the Hot Toys Lucas 12" figure, cause it's just so darn cool. :cool: :D

I'm a completist, but only when it comes to figures from the actual movie and the EU. Like I said, "Jorg Balsac" is neither, so I really could care less about him. I've altered my opinion about the Toy Fair Vader also, since he's not chrome in the movie.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[icatch9]

Good reasons, but basically it boils down to just those two figurs, since Vader isn't chrome in the movie and Jorg Sacul isn't in the movie or the EU. Sacul is as much as a EU character as anyone. He doesn't have a comic, but he does have a story and exists as much as Mara Jade. So, sounds to me like when it's all said and done, you'll have every figure but a Sacul and a TF Vader. Completest or not, no collection is truely complete without those two figures. Still I understand why you don't want them :).

[DarthBrandon]

Originally posted by icatch9
Back to a nicer note. A couple of questions about Jorg Sacul. Would you like this figure if you could get it at any Wal Mart? Would you like it if it was a totally new figure of George Lucas in genes and a Flanel with a directors chair, bull horn, and a clip board? Do you not like this figure becaue you don't have one and it costs so much? Are you perhaps jelous that the most popular figure this year is missing from your collection? I'm not pointing fingers or insulting anyone, I just would like to know.


I could care less about the Jorg Sacul figure, and I say that from the bottom of my heart. I wanted one when I first heard about it, but after seeing how much of a disappointment it was in my eyes, I changed my mind. If he was sold at Wal-Mart I might buy him as a filler for my X-Wing squadron and that’s it. If they ever sold a George Lucas figure that came in flannel and jeans attire with his director’s chair, bull horn, clip board and movie camera, I would definitely buy him for a reasonable price. I don't like the Sacul figure because it's just a retooled Bigs figure with a different head sculpt and a repainted helmet, nothing great in my opinion to spend $80 dollars on. Also in my opinion it is not the most popular figure at all, that's missing from my collection. Sio Bibble, TC-14, and R2-B1 were the most popular figures in my eyes that were missing from my collection. I have Sio Bibble now and I'm in the process of customizing a C-3PO into a TC-14 figure, later I will start work on R2-B1, if I can't find him for a reasonable price as well. I'm not a completist for figures that weren't in the movie, so not having this retooled Bigs/Sacul figure will not interfere with my sleeping habits.:)

[JangoFart]

Hehe!

George Lucas in "genes". I shudder at the thought....

J

[icatch9]

What if they would have made General Dodonna? That's a movie character that has never been made befor. What if they made him. Would anyone feel ok about paying $80 for him. He'd be just as rare and just as popular. The re-hashed Wedge body (not Biggs) argument has been beat into the ground. I understand not paying that much for a figure. $80 is way to much for normal people. Still, what would be worth it? If not George Lucas than who? Who would of made you happy and who would you not mind paying a large amount of $$$ for?


PS

So, do you guys have the new Endore Reble Soldier? He wasn't in the movie. Well, he was in the movie as much as Jorg Sacul was in the movie. Do you plan on getting the next Endor Reble Soldier? He wasn't in the movie either.

[pthfnder89]

Originally posted by brandon
...not having this retooled Bigs/Sacul figure will not interfere with my sleeping habits.:)

Absolutely brandon. About 2 years ago I would have shelled out however much I had to to get Jorg and Vader, but I finally realized that I was buying figures that I didn't even want. So now, I buy only the figures that I want to open, and extras of the ones I think look really cool in their cards. I'm much happier and far less poor.:)

[icatch9]

Well that is all that is important. Being happy with your collection. I have a Jorg and a TF Vader and I'm very happy :). I have all the figues. I do mean all of them. From 95-now all mint on card. I also have all the vitage ones NM loose complete. All 95 movie figurs and all but 8 droids and ewoks cartoon figues. So, clearly I'm a completest and a very happy one. If you don't care to have a complete set, then don't bother spending to much on any figure. Even cool ones loose thier cool after a while :).

[Rogue II]

I would love a General Dodonna, but I will not spend $80 on a figure. No single figure is worth that to me.

Endor Rebel Soldier isn't really in the same boat as Jorg Sucal. First, they are just generic troops. They don't have a bogus name and story made up about them. I bought 2 bearded versions(I might pick up a 3rd). I plan on getting a couple of the 2nd version when I find them.

[icatch9]

Well, just becasue Jorg has a story doesn't make he any less of a background character. I agree $80 is to much, but Jorg is as much of a part of the Back ground Star Wars Universe as any troop builder. Dak, Jek, and Red Leader all have stories that didn't happen in the movie. Who are we to say Jorg is any differnt?

[Rogue II]

Well, if Jorg was 5-10 dollars, I'd get one and stick him in with the rest of my Rebel Pilots. There is nothing wrong with Hasbro making them, and I don't feel like I missed out on anything by not owning one. It was a nice thing for the people who went to the convetion. Same goes for the Toyfair Vader, nice souviner (sp).

[OriginalBryGuy]

Yea, it seems to me those that claim to not want Jorg, are the ones who continue to talk about him the most.

Jorg is one of many crown jewels in my Star Wars collection. Not just because he's Jorg, but because Celebration II was such a fun experience for me. I saw fellow fans, took tons of pics, and the fact that the whole event was in my hometown made me cheer. My biggest score was a retooled Vader some hapless vendor sold me for 5 bucks! haha..

Like it or hate it, the Jorg Sacul figure is pretty unique for a number of reasons. If it wasn't, people would have stopped talking about it by now.

[Beast]

I wouldn't exactly call it unique. Since it's just a amalgam of many different pieces slapped onto a Saga card. The only thing new is the mediocre head-sculpt. It's about as unique as the Saga Ki-Adi-Mundi. :rolleyes: :p

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[OriginalBryGuy]

I wouldn't exactly call it unique. Since it's just a amalgam of many different pieces slapped onto a Saga card. The only thing new is the mediocre head-sculpt. It's about as unique as the Saga Ki-Adi-Mundi.

If a convention exclusive alone doesn't give a figure a certain "uniqueness" then nothing does. We might as well all pack it up and not collect another figure ever! :rolleyes:

I think you've missed the point yet again. It is quite unique in many ways. I think you just want one real bad! I'd give you one of mine, but you just don't seem to be too positive about the whole Jorg thing, so maybe I'll save it for someone who will appreciate it.:D

[Beast]

I'm not missing the point. It's a rehashed body, with a repainted helmet, Capt. Typho's gun and a MicroMachine X-Wing. The only thing at all unique is the mediocre headsculpt, the insert for the Saga card, and the back of the card. In three words, Whoopie friggen doo. :rolleyes: :p

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[Rogue II]

My thoughts exactly JarJar.

And for $80, I could go on Ebay, buy a bunch of Rebel Pilots from the cinema scene, Wedge, Biggs, and some X-Wing Lukes, and be just as happy.

[OriginalBryGuy]

I'm not missing the point. It's a rehashed body, with a repainted helmet, Capt. Typho's gun and a MicroMachine X-Wing. The only thing at all unique is the mediocre headsculpt, the insert for the Saga card, and the back of the card. In three words, Whoopie friggen doo.

You are missing the point big time.

"It's a rehashed body! It's a rehashed body!" Blah, blah blah, it's like a broken record. We KNOW all that already. :rolleyes:

To THAT I say whoopie friggen doo...

My point is that Jorg Sacul IS unique to many people, including me, not just for it's market value (that fluctuates) but it's intrinsic value also! Aside from the uniqueness of a convention figure, it also has unique intrinsic value to those that got it. HELLO? That's what I'm talking about, not the rehashed aspect.

Are you THAT upset you don't have one? You keep telling us over and over how you don't want it, yet you keep talking about it. If you really don't care then why keep posting?

You could easily make a, "Who hates how Jorg Sacul is a rehash" thread and be done with it.

[DarthBrandon]

Originally posted by OriginalBryGuy


You are missing the point big time.

"It's a rehashed body! It's a rehashed body!" Blah, blah blah, it's like a broken record. We KNOW all that already. :rolleyes:

To THAT I say whoopie friggen doo...

My point is that Jorg Sacul IS unique to many people, including me, not just for it's market value (that fluctuates) but it's intrinsic value also! Aside from the uniqueness of a convention figure, it also has unique intrinsic value to those that got it. HELLO? That's what I'm talking about, not the rehashed aspect.

Are you THAT upset you don't have one? You keep telling us over and over how you don't want it, yet you keep talking about it. If you really don't care then why keep posting?

You could easily make a, "Who hates how Jorg Sacul is a rehash" thread and be done with it.

Jorg Sacul is about as unique as my rear end; he in the end will be like the others worthless. I could care less if you had twelve to twenty of them and you were giving them away, I'd rather have my vintage Boba Fett as opposed to a figure that never seen the light of day on screen. He is WORTHLESS to many others and me. We only post because someone has do defend our side of the table. It's not that we hate the figure, it's that we'd rather spend $80 dollars on a whole whack of Rebel Pilots than one, that's in my opinion a crappy figure with no originality, but hey, that's just me and a few others around here.
I'm done now, so good luck with your batch of worthless Bigs/Sacul figures. Only my opinion on the matter.:D

Maybe you should start a thread entitled: " Who Loves The Cheap Jorg Sacul Rehash Figures". Can you deal with that! :D

[OriginalBryGuy]

He is WORTHLESS to many others and me.

It's quite obvious that there are many on this board who think Jorg is worthless. Buck up campers, I'm sure you'll get a Jorg someday...and while you do keep saying Jorg is worthless, I know of 26,000 star wars fans that waited over an hour at CII just to get one. Unless you can show me 26,000 "on your side" then you're certainly in the minority.


We only post because someone has do defend our side of the table.

That would be great if that side of table made any real sense.


...we'd rather spend $80 dollars on a whole whack of Rebel Pilots than one, that's in my opinion a crappy figure with no originality, but hey, that's just me and a few others around here.

And by all means, you're welcome to spend your cash on whatever you want. I wouldn't spend $80 bucks on Jorg either.


Maybe you should start a thread entitled: " Who Loves The Cheap Jorg Sacul Rehash Figures".

Again, I think 26,000+ already proved that point. No need to go into it again.:D


Can you deal with that!

Always have, always will.:rolleyes:

[DarthBrandon]

Originally posted by OriginalBryGuy
Again, I think 26,000+ already proved that point. No need to go into it again.:D

Don't you get it, we don't want one, and I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but 26,000 did not get a Sacul figure. If you think of the greedy people who got twelve or more, when you were supposed to only get two, then there is no 26,000 involved. No matter what you say people bought them for the money that they thought they would get for them. The guys that are selling four to five of them on E-bay prove my claim on that, and the fact that others have 10 to 12 of them in their collection.GREED There are I am sorry to say millions and millions of people who could care less in having a Jorg Sacul figure. Put that up against your so-called 26,000 and you have nothing against that. Bottom line it's a worthless piece of crap in my opinion and no matter what you say I don’t' want one and I'm quite sure many others will agree with me.
What point was it that was already proved? nothing in my opinion.
Take care and happy Sacul figure to you. :D :D :eek:

[Hellboy]

What is the big deal here people? Why does everyone have to get so worked up over this figure? It may not be what everyone wanted with the rehashed body and all but it is the first George Lucas figure made and a Celebration 2 exclusive so it is understandable that it will have appeal to certain collectors. It is my opinion that this figure was really never meant to be played with or it would have been mass produced so to argue that it isn't an original sculpt is unfair. It was simply a way of saying thankyou for attending Celebration 2 and most people probably won't even take it out of the package. If it's unoriginality is such an issue why doesn't anyone seem to be complaining about the fact that the Toy Fair Vader was simply a repainted Cinema Scene figure? If it was released into the retail marketplace then I could see the points being made by Brandon and Jar Jar but since it wasn't who cares. If you don't like it don't buy it, but some people myself included am glad to have one in my collection because of what it represents.

[Beast]

It's not the first George Lucas figure, because it's not George Lucas. It's "Jorg Balsac", a charecter that exists neither in the movies or the Expanded Universe. It's tecnically a glorified custom figure, since they used a pre-existing body and slapped a new head on. It's not even a very good custom, since the headsculpt is mediocre.

In the case of the Toy Fair Vader, it wasn't a re-painted cinema scene figure, he was vac-metaled. Not to mention it was never praised for being somthing it's not. Everyone that talks about the Toy Fair Vader knows it's just a Vac-Metallized figure. They don't act like it's some sort of major thing, because it's not. Just like ole Jorgie isn't.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[2-1B]

"Jorg Balsac" ? :p

I'm waiting for the 2005 C3 special "producer's" figure 2 pack, "Rik McScrotal w/ Joh Yohwza."

I scared myself awhile back on eBay - I bid on a Jorg just for the heck of it, not expecting to win, but I'll be darned if I wasn't high bidder for a few days ! At around $75 ! Thankfully, somebody outbid me . . . when I was at Wizard World I saw a scalper's Sacul figure ($125 - not bad, compared to the $300 silver R2 :rolleyes: ). Anyway, I wasn't impressed at all by the figure, I thought it looked goofier in person.

As much as I think it sucks, I must admit that had I gone to C2 I would have liked to grab one as a souveneir for $10. Nothing I'd wait in a long line for, but I would have paid $10. So I can see why those who went would value it - but beyond that I don't value it as a figure at all. :) Recently I referred to it as "trash" so I figured I should clarify my postition.

I DID however pay $10 for the C2 AOTC promo card to complete my set. How common were those cards? Were they handing them out en masse? I bet I overpaid ! :crazed:

[Hellboy]

"Jorg Balsac"? LOL
I dunno I guess what I'm trying to say is that if someone wants to get excited about this figure then let them. It isn't a great figure but I don't think that is the appeal of it. For the collector who is a completist and wants something more rare than the average mass produced Saga figure it fits nicely into their collections.

[OriginalBryGuy]

...I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but 26,000 did not get a Sacul figure

See, I was actually there all three days..and Jorg did in fact sell out...and 26,000+ was the lowest rumored amount they were supposed to have so those 26,000+ figures sold went someplace.

26,000 did not get a Sacul figure? Whateva...


If you think of the greedy people who got twelve or more, when you were supposed to only get two, then there is no 26,000 involved.

Now, if 26,000 Jorgs went up on Ebay May 6th then maybe you'd have a valid point. True, many did buy Jorg, just to scalp later, but the fact remains 26,000 still got the figure in the first place. You have to get the figure to A. Collect it B. Sell it.


No matter what you say people bought them for the money that they thought they would get for them.

Some did yes, but not all.


There are I am sorry to say millions and millions of people who could care less in having a Jorg Sacul figure.

Based on that logic you could say millions and millions would love to have a Jorg Sacul figure...


It's "Jorg Balsac", a charecter that exists neither in the movies or the Expanded Universe.

Sadly, if it's approved by Lucas then whatever character is created for Star Wars can be in fact included in the Expanded Universe somewhere. There's no way Lucas didn't know Jorg was going to be created. Did you ever read the back of the Jorg card? You can bet Lucas not only approved it, but probably considers Jorg a very real EU character.


They don't act like it's some sort of major thing, because it's not. Just like ole Jorgie isn't.

So why do you keep bringing it up? haha. One figure is not all things to all people. You say it isn't a major thing. Fine, but there are many who think he is, and that's what we're talking about.


As much as I think it sucks, I must admit that had I gone to C2 I would have liked to grab one as a souveneir for $10. Nothing I'd wait in a long line for, but I would have paid $10. So I can see why those who went would value it - but beyond that I don't value it as a figure at all. Recently I referred to it as "trash" so I figured I should clarify my postition.

If you had gone to CII you would have only paid 10 for it, but you definitely would have stood in line. But again, maybe everyone's upset because the figure was meant for those that attended CII and many couldn't make it so they feel cheated somehow...oh well....life will go on you guys...there's always CIII...

[icatch9]

Wow, I go away for a couple of days and an argument breaks out. I have a couple of things to say and that's it.

First it's a Wedge Body not a Biggs Body. If your going to insult it at least insult it the right way.

No matter what any of us say this figure is still more than likely the most popular figure of the new line (1995+), and maybe of all time, but that's pushing it.

People like money. Sacul = $$$, people are going to sell it. It's the way the world works. People sell stuff that's worth money. Wake up and get used to it. Star Wars toys are worth money. It's that simple. Wake up it's been going on for 25 years!

He's as much of an EU character as either Sage Endor Troopers, The A Wing pilot, Ten Numb, The POTF 2 Endor Rebel Soldier, The Deluxe Hoth Reble Soldier. Do you get my point. At least Jorg has a name. These other faceless "troop builders" don't even have name, but they count? Jorg Sacul may not have been in the moive, but it doesn't mean he wasn't at the Battle of Yavin. Dash Rendar wasn't in ESB, but apparently he flew a Snowspeeder at The Battle of Hoth. Why then is Jorg any different than Dash? I don't think you can answer that.

$80 is to much to pay for a figure. That is not in dispute hear. Still, you cannot call yourself a completest if this figure and the TF Vader are absent from your collection. Your more like a Completest*. The astrick says "I'm a completest unless the figure is to expensive for me to buy." Or "I'm a completest, but only have the figures that were avalable at the store." Or "I'm a completest, but only buy the figures that have 100% new bodies, heads, arms, legs, and weapons." So make sure you list what kind of collector/completest you are.

Go ahead and spend $80 on a dozen biggs or reble pilot 3 pack. You'll have a great squad, but still won't have Jorg. If you can live with that then fine, so can we. I have a great squad of Reble Piolots and a Jorg so what? I'm happy and your happy. Isn't that all that matters.

[Rogue II]

Originally posted by icatch9

Go ahead and spend $80 on a dozen biggs or reble pilot 3 pack. You'll have a great squad, but still won't have Jorg. If you can live with that then fine, so can we. I have a great squad of Reble Piolots and a Jorg so what? I'm happy and your happy. Isn't that all that matters.

I agree with you there. I'm perfectly happy without him. I am getting into customizing figures, so I can make up for the abscence of of Jorg.

I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not owning a Jorg. I did not want to go to Celebration II. Same goes for Toyfair Vader. It doesn't bother me that Hasbro keeps making these event exclusives as long as they aren't new movie characters. For example, they can re-hash Vader, George Lucas, C-3PO, etc. all they want. I just pray they don't make someone like the Imperial Dignitary or General Reeikan an event exclusive.

And for the record, I am not against re-hashed figures. I bought the Target Accessory packs.;)

[DarthBrandon]

Originally posted by OriginalBryGuy
See, I was actually there all three days..and Jorg did in fact sell out...and 26,000+ was the lowest rumored amount they were supposed to have so those 26,000+ figures sold went someplace.

26,000 did not get a Sacul figure? What ever...



26,000 figures were sold and that's it, you can't say 26,000 people got one, don't be a fool, We've all heard of the hundreds and hundreds that did not get one. You on the other hand have how many? (12) I believe is the correct amount, and why do you need that many? Greed is the only thing I can think of. There were many that got more than two a piece, if that was not the case, then they would not have sold out in a matter of hours each day, leaving all kinds of people, to go home empty handed. I don't care about the figure at all, but when you try to sell me the idea that 26,000 got one, I have to laugh because it's just not true. Others had gone and reported a totally different story than yours my friend and most of their stories coinside with one anothers. If I was to estimate the number of people that actually got a figure including multiple ones, then I would say it's about 15,000 people including the scalpers, who I'm sure were out in full force. Don't get me wrong if you like this figure that much then good for you, but for me it's nothing to get excited about. Even if you were to offer me one free of charge, I would still decline, have I made myself clear enough in that matter? I wish you the best of luck with your figures, this will be my last post on this unless you quote me again.:D


This is a pic of your stash is it not?

[OriginalBryGuy]

This is a pic of your stash is it not?

You do read don't you?

That picture is from this page

http://www.originalplots.com/digital/050302/celebration.html

you also neglected to post the caption for that picture which states...

"With the convention behind us we looked ahead to Star Wars Episode II. We got our figures and stuff together for one last pick. Pictured is the Yoda poster available if you bought the AOTC soundtrack with 4 cover variations, our 12 Jorg Sacul figure pile, a Jango Fett flyer, a vintage Logray my mom bought, a Green Carded Shadows of the Empire variation Vader worth about 300 bones, my woman's 3-Day pass and mine signed by Rick McCallum. A nice haul for a nice event."

Yes, 2 of those Jorgs are indeed mine. The other 10 Jorgs are not. We got them together for one last pic. :rolleyes:

Of course, if you actually read you might have noted that.

[OriginalBryGuy]

...have I made myself clear enough in that matter?

The only thing you're doing is making yourself look bad.

[DarthBrandon]

Originally posted by OriginalBryGuy


You do read don't you?

That picture is from this page

http://www.originalplots.com/digital/050302/celebration.html

you also neglected to post the caption for that picture which states...

"With the convention behind us we looked ahead to Star Wars Episode II. We got our figures and stuff together for one last pick. Pictured is the Yoda poster available if you bought the AOTC soundtrack with 4 cover variations, our 12 Jorg Sacul figure pile, a Jango Fett flyer, a vintage Logray my mom bought, a Green Carded Shadows of the Empire variation Vader worth about 300 bones, my woman's 3-Day pass and mine signed by Rick McCallum. A nice haul for a nice event."

Yes, 2 of those Jorgs are indeed mine. The other 10 Jorgs are not. We got them together for one last pic. :rolleyes:

Of course, if you actually read you might have noted that.

(We) could mean you and your girlfriend or wife for that matter, I could care less either way. If it's not yours then whoop di do, like I said, " this is a pic of your stash is it not? That my friend was a question. Duh! :eek: Guess you need to learn to read as well.:rolleyes:

[DarthBrandon]

Originally posted by OriginalBryGuy


The only thing you're doing is making yourself look bad.


What because I don't want some worthless rehashed figure and I don't brag it up like some golden idol. It's a piece of crap in my opinion and if you don't like it, well you know what you can do. You need to get over yourself real soon my friend, because it seems you bring out the worst in people, including myself. Like I said take care and enjoy your golden statue, I'm not buying into it cause I don't want it.: :zzz: Can anybody say LOSER.

[OriginalBryGuy]

(We) could mean you and your girlfriend or wife for that matter...

Are you serious? Take a good look at that page! Did you notice my friends with Jorgs in their hands?? hello? What's with this needless attack? You have no case here. You are obviously trying to make me look bad but have no evidence to back up your lame claim. Don't be sad you got caught. Just roll with the punch and do some more research next time. haha.


That my friend was a question. Duh!

And the answer is a resounding No, but you had to accuse me of outright Greed so I have a right to defend.


What because I don't want some worthless rehashed figure and I don't brag it up like some golden idol. It's a piece of crap in my opinion and if you don't like it, well you know what you can do. You need to get over yourself real soon my friend, because it seems you bring out the worst in people, including myself. Like I said take care and enjoy your golden statue, I'm not buying into it cause I don't want it.:

I think anyone who goes back into this thread will see otherwise. I'm not braging anything up. It's all in your head.

[Rogue II]

Ok, look, you guys need to agree to disagree on this whole thing.

I think from the discussion so far it is clear that the Jorg Sucal figure isn't for everyone. Yes, lots of people obiously wanted one, otherwise it wouldn't be going for $80 on e-bay. But, there are lots of people who don't want one.

If you look at it one way, the only thing special about this figure is a new head sculpt on a POTF pilot body in a Saga package with a MM X-Wing. I happen to fall in this group.;)

If you look at it another way, it is special to other collectors because there were less than 30,000 made and they were only available at Celebratioin II. I suppose the rarity of the figure makes it more desireable to collectors. There is nothing wrong with this, but personally, I'm not this type of collector.

We all collect in different ways for different reasons. Now, play nice and don't make me have to tell mom on you.:);)

[OriginalBryGuy]

We all collect in different ways for different reasons. Now, play nice and don't make me have to tell mom on you.

I second, third, and fourth that. I do believe that's the most intelligent quote in this thread!

[DarthBrandon]

Originally posted by OriginalBryGuy


Are you serious? Take a good look at that page! Did you notice my friends with Jorgs in their hands?? hello? What's with this needless attack? You have no case here. You are obviously trying to make me look bad but have no evidence to back up your lame claim. Don't be sad you got caught. Just roll with the punch and do some more research next time. haha.



And the answer is a resounding No, but you had to accuse me of outright Greed so I have a right to defend.



I think anyone who goes back into this thread will see otherwise. I'm not braging anything up. It's all in your head.

I honestly could care less what you say because it's always got to be your way or the highway, in every thread I've ever read with you in it. So what if I thought all those re-hashes were yours, like I said it was a question and now that it's answered, I'm sorry that you were offended by it, maybe next time you could be clear by saying this is a pic of my friends re-hashes as well as mine (Two figures). Bottom line is I don't agree with you on the Jorg Sacul/Bigs/Wedge figure and that's something you can never change no matter how much you wine otherwise. You don't like my opinion on it and I don't care for yours on it as well. So lets just drop it and move on with ours lives. So if you want the last word go ahead and take it cause I won't be wasting my time talking about something that I really really really do not care about. Again take care and enjoy your Sacul figure and all it's so-called glory. :D

[DarthBrandon]

Originally posted by Rogue II
Ok, look, you guys need to agree to disagree on this whole thing.

I think from the discussion so far it is clear that the Jorg Sucal figure isn't for everyone. Yes, lots of people obiously wanted one, otherwise it wouldn't be going for $80 on e-bay. But, there are lots of people who don't want one.

If you look at it one way, the only thing special about this figure is a new head sculpt on a POTF pilot body in a Saga package with a MM X-Wing. I happen to fall in this group.;)

If you look at it another way, it is special to other collectors because there were less than 30,000 made and they were only available at Celebratioin II. I suppose the rarity of the figure makes it more desireable to collectors. There is nothing wrong with this, but personally, I'm not this type of collector.

We all collect in different ways for different reasons. Now, play nice and don't make me have to tell mom on you.:);)

I agree and I am done discussing this matter, nice post Rogue II, I wish I could have said something like that, but something about OriginalBryGuy just rubs me the wrong way.


Oh well time to leave this one alone and get back to other things.

:D

[OriginalBryGuy]

I honestly could care less what you say because it's always got to be your way or the highway, in every thread I've ever read with you in it.

So untrue. I'm here to help and be honest.


So what if I thought all those re-hashes were yours

It means a great deal actually because those kind of lies make people look bad and blow your own crediblity at the same time.


I'm sorry that you were offended by it,

I learned long ago not to be offended by anything on forum boards. Actions always speak louder then words.


maybe next time you could be clear by saying this is a pic of my friends re-hashes as well as mine

hahaha! You brought up the picture...I didn't. That web page was created a week after CII, like...4 months ago!


Bottom line is I don't agree with you on the Jorg Sacul/Bigs/Wedge figure and that's something you can never change no matter how much you wine otherwise.

Really. Wow. I had no idea you disagreed with me. haha I'm so bummed now. haha...


So if you want the last word go ahead and take it cause I won't be wasting my time talking about something that I really really really do not care about.

haha...It's not about a last word. It's about defending myself from lies, and disolusioned logic from those obviously jealous and sad they couldn't get a Jorg. If it's so worthless to you then just don't post...it's as simple as that.

Everyone who doesn't like Jorg has posted on this thread loud and clear. We hear ya. I hear ya. That's great. I get your point. But that doesn't mean you're in the majority by any stretch. Can you accept that one?


Again take care and enjoy your Sacul figure and all it's so-called glory.

No I'll enjoy BOTH of them thanks. I got 2, not 1. haha..haha

Can we get a moderator in here to close this thread now? hahahaha...

[OriginalBryGuy]

...but something about OriginalBryGuy just rubs me the wrong way.

haha...

[DarthBrandon]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ee:eek:

[rynobot]

hmm, I love my George Lucus figure, and that is what it is, not George Belonie Sallc Head Face.

[icatch9]

It seems to me there are two factions when it comes to this. The Haves and the Have Nots. The Haves love the Jorg Sacul figure and the Have Nots hate it and give it stupid names and reasons why they don't want it. Is that strange or what :rolleyes:

[Rogue II]

I think its more like 4 factions:

Those who have it
Those who want it
Those who could care less about it <--Me
Those that hate it

So that's 2 groups that love it, 1 group hates it, and 1 group that is indifferent. Simple, right.:D

I don't want it, but I don't hate it. I'm sure it is a nice souvenir for those who went to the convention.