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DarthBrandon
08-17-2002, 12:18 PM
I'm just wondering if anyone seen this auction on E-bay and what do you think about it? The seller says that they are banned because of the Columbine shooting, and that they are one of the rarest figures in the U.S. and possibly the World. What a load of crap in my opinion, I've seen at least five in my city and that's just in two stores. He also says they were pulled off the shelves and ordered to be destroyed; I've heard that one before with the Unleashed Padme version. What other tactics will sellers resort to, in order to sell their items? Just seems a little far-fetched for me to believe. What do you think?:eek:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1759350750

Beast
08-17-2002, 12:34 PM
There are other auctions on Ebay for the same figure, that say it was recalled. So it's possible, but he's going a tad far in his statements saying it's banned. Plus those others have B.I.N's for like 26.99, so again it's not somthing really really rare. Oh well, like I have said in the past, "Ebay is one of the worst and best things to ever happen to the collecting community."

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

darthvyn
08-17-2002, 12:35 PM
i seriously doubt it's one of the rarest figures in the world, but it definitely was controversial and pulled from stores. i work in a small toy store and we have a couple... it's just an example of someone over-hyping their auction. the facts are there, they are just amplified!

DarthBrandon
08-17-2002, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by darthvyn
i seriously doubt it's one of the rarest figures in the world, but it definitely was controversial and pulled from stores. i work in a small toy store and we have a couple... it's just an example of someone over-hyping their auction. the facts are there, they are just amplified!

It may be controversial and was pulled from the stores, but if it was, then why are there so many of them out there at retail stores? In my opinion I don't believe that they are any rarer than the Padme Unleashed figure that just come out. Plus if they start pulling one figure because it resembles a particular person or persons involved in an incident, then anyone who has a problem with a certain action figure, for whatever reason could have it pulled from their respective lines. It reminds me of the Spiderman trailer that has the WTC towers in it, they got cut out of the picture because it may offend some of the victims, well I say what about the hundreds of other films that have them in it. Are they going to cut them as well? My point is if we give in to one thing, then it's another and another etc. It's like the old saying: Give him an inch and he'll take a mile. I may have gone a little off topic to explain my point, but this is just another example of the seller exaggerating the so-called facts to get a higher price for his auction. In other words lying is basically what I'm trying to say. In the end all I can do is shake my head and wonder what the world has come to.:greedy:

Exhaust Port
08-17-2002, 02:45 PM
Yeah, I remember this figure being pulled after the shootings. They're rare in the sense that you can't buy it in the store but they're pretty common in the secondary market. Everyone smelling a profit bought them after future shipments were halted with the hopes of cashing in later.

The Villian series was continued and that's what your seeing in the stores currently. I think they might have even released a figure similar to this one but my memory is hazy on this series. This figure is question was pulled be cause...<gasp>... this figure had a trenchcoat which was the "trademark" of those kids.

I agree on the oversensativity of the PC public. Didn't Zoolander erase the Twin Towers from the skyline in that movie? (Too bad they didn't bother removing the whole movie) Who in their right mind would be offended/upset by the image of the Towers? Sure, those intimately invovled with that day have a special relationship with the images but I'd have to think that even they wish those buildings to be remembered. It's like cutting out every image of a lost family member from a family album so your not upset when you look back on those pictures. It's stupid, especially when its a toy.

JediTricks
08-17-2002, 03:00 PM
I have this figure, it's pretty cool really, though the machine gun sling it comes with isn't for that AK-47 he has (then again, he's just a stupid "Villain" so he doesn't have to KNOW it's the wrong sling :D Still, I gave it to another figure). It has body armor with removable plates in the front and back of the vest, a shotgun holster, and a great trenchcoat. It was pulled from major chain retailers but never banned or recalled. As EP points out, the Villains line continued and they released another version of this figure with a different color outfit. I think the figure is based more on those guys who robbed that bank in North Hollywood and then lay siege to the neighborhood when they botched their escape.

My Armed Terrorist is about to get mowed down by my SWAT urban camo figure who has his MP-5 pointed at the terrorist's head. ;)

darthvyn
08-17-2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Exhaust Port
The Villian series was continued and that's what your seeing in the stores currently. I think they might have even released a figure similar to this one but my memory is hazy on this series. This figure is question was pulled be cause...<gasp>... this figure had a trenchcoat which was the "trademark" of those kids.


and as we all know, guns don't kill people, trenchcoats do!

i still think it was rediculous that schools banned trenchcoats after the shootings. but by all means, bring your guns!

Beast
08-17-2002, 03:51 PM
Speaking of stupid P.C. BS involving trenchcoats, anyone remember the massive controversy that Dogma riled up. Not only because it was "blasphemous" but also because the renegade angels wore trenchcoats, and delivered judgement. Kevin Smith mentions it in the audio commentary, that Dogma premiered at Cannes just shortly after Columbine happened. :rolleyes:

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

jjreason
08-17-2002, 05:55 PM
JediTricks - after your ERT member pops the terrorist, make sure to have him exclaim "STOP! POLICE!" so that the bystanders/witnesses will remember he said that (they'll remember he said it BEFORE he capped the guy, believe it or not) and he won't be subjected to as tough an internal investigation!

Seriously, though, is anyone putting an "Armed Terrorist" on their Christmas list? Why would they make that in the first place? Is there a limited edition 2 pack with him and Osama bin Laden? Come on. The only thing that figure is good for is target practice, real or imaginary.

DarthBrandon
08-17-2002, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by jjreason
JediTricks - after your ERT member pops the terrorist, make sure to have him exclaim "STOP! POLICE!" so that the bystanders/witnesses will remember he said that (they'll remember he said it BEFORE he capped the guy, believe it or not) and he won't be subjected to as tough an internal investigation!

Seriously, though, is anyone putting an "Armed Terrorist" on their Christmas list? Why would they make that in the first place? Is there a limited edition 2 pack with him and Osama bin Laden? Come on. The only thing that figure is good for is target practice, real or imaginary.

Since you mentioned it jjreason, they actually have an Osama bin Laden figure on the market right now. How sick is that? Makes me wonder again what the world is coming to.
:crazed:

Beast
08-17-2002, 08:25 PM
There is an Osama Bin Laden figure on the market? The hell? Happen to have a picture handy, Brandon. That is somewhat unbelievable, but I wouldn't put it past some company to do it. Didn't 21st Century Toys also make an Adolf Hitler as well? I swear that some company like that did. Geez, makes me wonder if there is a Saddam Hussain as well. :crazed:

Never mind, I found it. They are from a company called Herobuilders.com. And yes, they not only have Sadaam Hussain, but George Bush Jr. as well. It's kinda in bad taste, since they are making money on those sickos, but I guess that it's the American way. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

derek
08-17-2002, 09:40 PM
brandon,

i'd say the most sought after figure in the world is the toys mc coy indiana jones. i got this "terrorist" figure recently from entertainment earth. that seller is full of crap.:)

one toy i do believe was pulled from stores was the "marvin nash" cop from reservoir dogs. that one came out just after sept. 11th, and i guess cops with their ear cut off and duct taped to a chair with a gas can as an ascessory wasn't popular with the PC police.

jar jar,

a company called www.drasticplastic.com made the hitler figure, along with a company called "in the past toys".
i have this hitler figure and i plan on getting the bin ladin figure also. as long as nazis and al queida don't profit from the sale, i have no problem with them. besides, my american troops have to have someone to kill.:)
a company called armoury makes a bin ladin figure.
here he is:

LTBasker
08-17-2002, 09:52 PM
They also had a Bin Laden fire work called "Exploding Bin Laden" and I think it was like a fountain firework except in the end the head is supposed to turn red and explode. :crazed:

I don't see the bad thing about wanting a terrorist figure on an X-Mas list, I mean a terrorist can be anyone so eh, maybe the person wanting wants to complete a collection of figures or make dioramas, or just have a generic enemy to play with their SWAT figures.

Makes ya wonder if an A-wing toy was released if it would raise controversey because of the ROTJ A-wing that crashed into the Super Star Destroyer bridge? :rolleyes:

Exhaust Port
08-17-2002, 10:47 PM
I thought about getting that Hitler figure just so my SW 12" figures would have someone to beat up on. Actually since he had Stormtroopers of his own it's has kind of a weird parallel.

scruffziller
08-18-2002, 09:53 AM
I think banning stuff like that is no more short of lame than wanting to change the title of the second LOTR movie because it says "The Two Towers" I think these figures are actually good because they at least exemplify the fact that they are "VILLIANS"
Make sure you know who is who.

DarthBrandon
08-18-2002, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by derek
brandon,

i'd say the most sought after figure in the world is the toys mc coy indiana jones. i got this "terrorist" figure recently from entertainment earth. that seller is full of crap.:)

one toy i do believe was pulled from stores was the "marvin nash" cop from reservoir dogs. that one came out just after sept. 11th, and i guess cops with their ear cut off and duct taped to a chair with a gas can as an ascessory wasn't popular with the PC police.

jar jar,

a company called www.drasticplastic.com made the hitler figure, along with a company called "in the past toys".
i have this hitler figure and i plan on getting the bin ladin figure also. as long as nazis and al queida don't profit from the sale, i have no problem with them. besides, my american troops have to have someone to kill.:)
a company called armoury makes a bin ladin figure.
here he is:

Yep, those are the pics derek and JarJarBinks, I've seen them before like I said when I was searching for Star Wars figures and came across those as well. I didn't post any pics as I was offline and didn't get the reply until now.:) I find nothing wrong with having a bad guy figure to decimate, as long as the real bad guys don't profit from this, like others have mentioned.

Here's another pic of Bin

DarthBrandon
08-18-2002, 12:30 PM
Here's a pic of Saddam Insane, another guy that needs to be killed badly.:D

jeddah
08-18-2002, 01:29 PM
Spectacular stupidity! Will the irony never cease? :rolleyes:

jeddah

JediTricks
08-18-2002, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by jjreason
JediTricks - after your ERT member pops the terrorist, make sure to have him exclaim "STOP! POLICE!" so that the bystanders/witnesses will remember he said that (they'll remember he said it BEFORE he capped the guy, believe it or not) and he won't be subjected to as tough an internal investigation!

Seriously, though, is anyone putting an "Armed Terrorist" on their Christmas list? Why would they make that in the first place? Is there a limited edition 2 pack with him and Osama bin Laden? Come on. The only thing that figure is good for is target practice, real or imaginary. I was gonna have him yell "he's comin' right for us!" in South Park style. ;)

The reason it's a cool figure to have is that I have a BUNCH of "good guy" type figures and had nobody for them to kick the arses of. Now there's a bunch of different villains to give your 21st Century figures a little trouble.