SSG prison camp...

[notafinga]

When did SSG become such a stiff place to post?
Part of the enjoyment I found in these threads back in the old days (when I was a jedi knight, much like your father) was the tendency for them to spin off in various directions. I agree that there must be some adherence to topic, but conversation should be allowed to breathe, and I find that this new dictator-like regime perpetrated by the overabundance of moderators to be a little, how shall i say, stifling.

D'Argal, why can't two members of a forum post back and forth as in conversation and not be accused of post padding? Or is the iron fist just a moderator's vehicle for dishing out retribution in a personal vendeta?

What is it with all this overconcern w/post padding, anyways? I'm afraid that every little "nonrelevant" nugget of sarcasm I spew may be subject to accusations of post padding and a little more pavement poured upon my road to banishment.
It's a horrible GNT induced syndrome if u ask me.

In this current environment at SSG, i can see why the Cell Block was so necessary.

A haven, it was.

Why, when I'm moderator, things are gonna change around here...

[notafinga]

ooooh... i'm gonna get flogged for this one...

[LTBasker]

Post padding is an annoying thing just so people can say "hehehe, look at my post count it's bigger than yours!" and that shouldn't happen because it's frickin annoying.

As for the conversation between 2 people issue, well what's the point of taking up posting space when theres a perfectly good Private Messenger installed? ;)

[Patient Zero]

A prime example of post padding is when your posts are 1 minute apart in the same thread. Learn how to use the edit button!

[2-1B]

Yes, I agree with the idea of keeping things neat and tidy by curbing the personal chats, but regarding post counts I don't see much of a need for it.

Honestly, without sarcasm - what is the point of having post counts in our little user box? The "date registered" feature is nice, it shows how long someone has been around . . . I guess post counts show how frequently someone is active here, but if you are already here a lot, won't the "usual" posters be obvious anyway?

I really am curious as to why we have post counts when it's obvious that people care so much about it, leading to these padding issues. :)

[notafinga]

thankz, Jonna,
cuz i really give a crap about post count,
sometimes two seperate posts is more effective to me as an 'afterthought' than tacking it all to one post. :P

[Patient Zero]

Good point Caesar. If you want to have a rating Jedi/Sith system, why not have it based on time and not, what is often times, simply monotinous posting.

[rynobot]

I too don't want to have post counts listed.

[notafinga]

but is that what drives this current mentality?
Jonna, is my posting mere moments after my prior post get u ruffled becuz i'm cheating my way to Jedi status (as u see it)?

[Darth Vellner]

I have nothing to say......I just wanted to add to my post count!! :) heehee!!

[bigbarada]

I have to admit, this place has been getting more and more restrictive as time goes on. If this keeps up, I might have to actually go out into the real world and make some friends.:eek:

I'm scared.:(

[Emperor Howdy]

QUALITY.........not quantity. However, some quasi-queer quacks need to be quietly quaratined quarterly. Quite frankly, "I quit", said the quaint queen's quadruplets.

[scruffziller]

It's only a stiff place to be if you try to go oustside the boundries.
I do not feel this way.

[Patient Zero]

Originally posted by Darth Vellner
I have nothing to say......I just wanted to add to my post count!! :) heehee!!

Now that is humor!


PS I am tired of fighting with people, notafinga. I will not respond to your intentions to start a flame thread. Go do whatever you want. Either the administration will fix it or not. The whole situation has escalated to moronic proportions and the entire community is suffering. I will no longer contribute to the problem.
:zzz:

[notafinga]

gotcha.

I was just trying to see if it was a hardcore crackdown due to more varied monitors, (used to be just Tricks, didn't it?).
Just seems the rules are a little more rigid, that's all.

My intention was not to start a "flame" thread. I could care less about fighting you.
I don't think i was out of line with my comment/question, and i didn't attack you in any way. In fact, my only direct question in the first post of this thread wasn't even directed at you. Thanks for the input, tho.

[SirSteve]

more people (posting) = more problems.

[JediTricks]

I haven't noticed any rules getting more strict or moderating becoming "hardline" or anything like that, could you give examples please?

[Dar' Argol]

Originally posted by notafinga
D'Argal, why can't two members of a forum post back and forth as in conversation and not be accused of post padding? Or is the iron fist just a moderator's vehicle for dishing out retribution in a personal vendeta?

When I step in as a Mod, I do not let my personal opinions of someone influance what I do. There is no "vendeta" involved what so ever. When I logged on that day, I had about 5 PM's and 3 or so emails about 2 different threads that this was happening in, with the same 2 forumites. That is why I took action. If no one would have had a problem with it, I probably would have over looked it. But it was called to my attention and I make a judgement call on it. If I was out of line, then JT or SirSteve would have stepped in and told me about it. I really don't step in as a Mod unless I have to, that's just my style. It has nothing to do with my opinions of someone.


What is it with all this overconcern w/post padding, anyways? I'm afraid that every little "nonrelevant" nugget of sarcasm I spew may be subject to accusations of post padding and a little more pavement poured upon my road to banishment.
It's a horrible GNT induced syndrome if u ask me.


What I concided post padding in that thread was the 10 post of practically 1 lined posts. Now I said "practically" cause there are some that were more then 1 lines. But this was more a chat type of posting. And I felt that it was not needed in that thread. If I am wrong, someone please correct me and clairify:D

[notafinga]

Thanks, D'Argol.

I guess I was just suspicious cuz of all the Deadeye bashing.

JT, I guess i really don't have any specific instances to site other than the D'argol comment in another thread. (I would link it if i knew how). It's just an overall sense i'm getting and if no one else is, perhaps i'm

a) imagining it.
b) an astute observer of collective consciouseness, wherin my infrequant posting and in-and-out-after-long-intervals status makes me keenly aware of that which you do not see. (such as noticing the age etched into a persons face after not seeing them for 5 years.) In other words, it's a slow degredation in attitude that is difficult to notice if you are part of the trend or shift all along.
c) just affected by the increasingly hostile posts in this forum, which relates to Sir Steve's comment about more posters=more problems. Like why in God's name did Jonna have to take a condescending tone with me in his first post directly to me? Just seems like alot of people have chips on their shoulders. (forgive me that i used you as an example, ghostman, i'm sure my penchant for melodrama made me come off strong and you were just reacting.; )
d) just starting a new thread which i can be proactive in to simply, oh yea...

PAD MY POST COUNT, BABY!!!!

i'm sure (a) and (d) are gonna be high on people's list of my intent, but am i just paranoid?:happy: :happy:

[Lowly Bantha Cleaner]

I too feel that a person's post count is overrated.

I wouldn't mind if they were eliminated.

A poster should be measured by a combination of how much intelligence, relevance, thoughtfulness, humor, respect, friendship they bring to their posts and they way the conduct themselves on the forum. Of course this is all subjective and can't be measured quantitively by a number. Quality over quantity indeed.

Not a more important factor, but still another thing to consider is time spent on the forum. The people who have been on these forums for years, to no surprise, are the posters who often garner the most respect.

[Jargo]

I like having the number of posts handy to tell me when i've been talking too much. When the post count jumps it's time to shut up. If it moved from the posts themselves to the user CP area that might be better.
I'm glad to see general notafinga back again. his skewed take on the world is sorely needed and the hostil;ity he was subjected to is indicative of how mistrustful as a community we have become thanks to unfortunate spammy incidents just lately. I personally feel that things here are returning to a normal state of equilibrium. The insanity of a movie year is quite something isn't it? Lots of nrew people shouting to be heard then all flitting off once the buzz dies down leaving just the hardcore behind with a few stragglers of the new variety. But then there's those who drift in and out like notafinga who rides in every so often like Clint astride a wild horse named injun... bad analogy.... like a gunslinger steppin' off the train in old Dodge City. somethin' like that. The new guys haven't got a clue who he is so feel threatened by his familiarity. it's a prodigal son returning sort of situation. :)

[Darth Sidious]

Believe me, SSG is not that tough. I have been to forums (Not about SW though) that have a list of people who don't make "Quality Posts" (By their warped definition, posts which are 10 or more words). The person who has made the most posts under 10 words in one week is banned for a week. If they are banned (For a week) 3 times, they are banned permanently. Even the occasional SPAM will get you tons of "You'll be banned..." PMs from mods and admins, even if you hardly ever SPAM. That isn't the worst of it though. If everyone on the forums has a problem with the way things are being run and petition the admins, the admins do not care. They just delete the petition. Online fascism at its purest. Needless to say, I left those forums. Here, however, there IS a comments/suggestions forum where you are listened to. There IS no SPAM rule (As long as it doesn't happen too often). There IS no blacklist. I could go on and on. The mods and admins here are all great people and do a good job keeping things orderly here, yet they are fair to everyone who respects the rules and everyone else. Don't want to feel like you are in a "Prison camp?" Try doing these-
1. Try to post in the correct forums, although if you don't (Even many times) it is certainly ok. :) Try to SPAM as little as possible. But that doesn't mean try to make every post over 10 words. For example, if 7 words are all that is necessary to get your point across, then make the post 7 words. No need to add useless drivel to try to make the post seem longer. Quality, not quantity. On those old gestapo-like boards I was a member of, people would add things such as "Hmm...this post isn't long enough...Ha! Now it is! Over 10 words!" so they wouldn't get prosecuted. That, in my opinion, is much worse than short posts.
2. USE THE DAMNED EDIT BUTTON! It is there for a reason. Use it. Don't post twice within the same minute. If you want to go for the "Afterthought effect", space down as far as you want, then type your afterthought. No need to make 2 posts in such a small time incriment. The only (Worthless) effect that has is increasing your postcount.
3. Respect everyone, please...Don't pull a Deadeye, just chill. That is probably the main thing that will make these forums a better place. Avoid racism, any kind of preference discrimination, etc. and try not to hold grudges if you can help it.
4. Have fun! Don't take things too seriously or personally. We are all here because we love Star Wars, right? We all have something in common, like one big ol' family. :)

Well, I hope someone found that post useful or informative. And I know this is slightly off track, but thank you SirSteve, JediTricks, and all of the mods for making the best Star Wars forums out there. Keep up the great work guys, it is an honor to be a part of forums like these. :)

EDIT (Note how the "Edit" button was used?)-By the way, I think postcounts should stay. They add a bit of fun, and it's cool to see your rank change. Just don't postpad people...If you want to be a Jedi Council Member or Emperor THAT badly, buy a Master Replicas Anakin/Vader saber and a brown or black robe and knock yourselves out.

[SirSteve]

I think Darth Sidious summed it up... I myself have gotten banned from other forums for little stuff like a link to my web site in my signature. We are BY FAR not as strict as most forums but we do have to follow certain guidelines to maintain an ejoyment environment.

[Darth Sidious]

Originally posted by SirSteve
we do have to follow certain guidelines to maintain an ejoyment environment.

Exactly! Do you people think you would actually have a good time here with nonexistant/weakly enforced guidelines? People like Deadeye would still be here (And you don't want that, do you?). Posts would be COMPLETELY strewn all over, nobody would bother to post in the correct sections. Insults and disrespect would be commonplace. It would be complete and total chaos. But mods and admins, cracking down if necessary, help keep everything orderly. These are by far the best forums I have been a part of, and that is because rules are enforced, but they are enforced kindly. Do you know how hard you have to try to get banned here??? How many chances did Deadeye get before he was banned and not allowed back? He was a total arse, and even he got more than enough oppurtunities to come back. You call THAT dictatorial? It is pretty fair, if you ask me. If you really believe these boards are too strict, think about how they would be without guidelines, or if the guidelines were too strict. It could be much, much, MUCH worse.

[Lord Malakite]

Originally posted by SirSteve
I myself have gotten banned from other forums for little stuff like a link to my web site in my signature.

LOL. :D Your the last person I would have expected to get kicked off a message board. Now I'm gagging on my soda.

[SirSteve]

Originally posted by Lord_Malakite


LOL. :D Your the last person I would have expected to get kicked off a message board. Now I'm gagging on my soda.

It wasn't Star Wars related... and no warning. Simply banned. Oh well, the way I look at it is if they are THAT strict, I'll simply find another site. :)