View Full Version : Why is all Morning radio TALK instead of MUSIC???

09-26-2002, 01:43 AM
When your alarm clock goes off (if you have it set on radio)....

When you're driving to work, school (or Wal*Mart along the way)....

Don't you want music? I want to get up and rock out!

Or I want something that makes me feel like ZZTop's "Sharp Dressed Man" so I can get up, rinse off, and start the day ready to get the girls and live my life to the fullest!

Instead, I hear every dumb "thinks they're a comedian" chatting about nothing!

Even Howard Stern is only tolerable when I haven't heard him for a while.

Some radio stations in San Diego used to only play music in the mornings. Especially when they were new and start-ups and didn't have these "so called" talented morning talk hosts. Now even those tunes have died down and gone the way of "The Morning Show."

When that turns on, all I want to do is shut it off and shut the rest of everybody's opinions out of my day for at least until I've had breakfast. Besides, my job has me dealing with people I must listen and negotiate with. I want to think my own thoughts, strategize in the mornings, and just have something to rock 'n roll to in the background to feed me energy and power.

Like Metallica says: "Give me Fuel! Give me Fire! Give me that which I Desire!"

Here I can listen to them on ROCK 105.3, San Diego. But in the morning I have to listen to Howard Stern:

"Pass the beans will you? You shouldn't eat any more. Your azz is already so fat! Oh hold on: wait! Give me the cordless mike - I'm about to pass gas....

That reminds me of today's topics. Places and people you shouldn't pass gas with. We have 12 callers with opinions on this on the phone right now..."

(never mind that this was funny when it was last week's topic - but I've already heard it now...)


Does this bother anyone else here!


09-26-2002, 02:11 AM
We have an oldies station over here that makes it a point to play 60s and 70s classic rock (the only rock I listen to anymore) in the morning instead of a "morning show" thing. I guess the programmers there feel the same way you do, Tycho.

I remember there was a period of about three months when I listened to nothing but talk radio (Howard Stern, G. Gordon Liddy, Art Bell and some local guys). Every once in a while I just get sick of what's on the radio. Especially that garbage that passes for rock & roll these days.

09-26-2002, 02:34 AM
buy a portable CD player for $50.00 then purchase some CDs to play.

09-26-2002, 03:07 AM
I don't listen to FM radio.

Tycho, I thought you had a good mix of discs in your truck? What the hell do you need radio for? :p

09-26-2002, 03:36 AM
You hear new music on the radio, or enjoy classic oldies you may have forgotten to buy or download.

If it wasn't for radio, I'd still think "Pyromania" and "Ride the Lightning" were NEW albums!

Also, radio makes you listen to stuff that can catch you off-guard and be unpredictable - not all music you know and can fall back to sleep to.

There's always internet radio which is seriously cool - tells you the artist and title of new stuff versus the non-sensical jibber-jabber of your local DJay, but I don't know how to set my alarm to it - and I can't tune that in on my truck radio.

09-26-2002, 10:18 AM
The only music I listen to is on my CD in my car and I listen to MANCOW!!!!!!!! until he is off then I turn off the radio!!!

Rogue II
09-26-2002, 10:39 AM
I know what you mean Tycho. I think it is a California thing. When I was living in Northen CA last year, I could pick up both San Fran and Sacramento stations. I would listen to them on my way to work. Of the 5 rock stations, only 1 of them played music, and even that one was mostly talk. Now I'm in DC. Yes, the morning DJs talk, but they still play plenty of music.

....Just another reason I hate California.

While we are on the subject, remember when MTV actually played music videos? Def Leppard, the Scorpions, and Van Halen were in the heavy rotation.....ahhh, the good old days. They even used to show Rolling Stones videos sometimes.

Exhaust Port
09-26-2002, 11:52 AM
For the reason of those annoying morning "personalities" I went out and bought a clock/radio/CD player so I can wake to the music of my choice. Now that I have a CD burner in my computer I plan on creating my own CD's to wake to.

In my car where I don't have a CD player yet I've ended up listening to NPR. I figure if I'm going to have to listen to people in the morning it might as well be someone informative and without those annoying DJ's. Of course it makes me feel like I'm 50 years old and make sure to turn it down everytime I pay a toll on the way to work so the booth attendant can't hear it.

MTV.....argh, what a waste of my cable subscription. Briefly we got MuchMusic locally (it's out of Toronto) and it was such a breath of fresh air. Not only do they play a lot of music, they play a lot of different, more obsure artists that are great. I want my MuchMusic!!

I find it funny when MTV talks about their "old days" and how many videos they played. They were so unique and groundbreaking because all they played was music videos and no one else did that. Well, now that VH1 has followed MTV's lead NO ONE plays music videos again. Perhaps it's time for another groundbreaking station to play videos instead of all this non-music programming.

Remember when VH1 played videos? I want my Big 80's back!!!

09-26-2002, 12:19 PM
I have been a fan of Howards since '88 and I'll love him till he goes off the air, but the only time I can listen to him is when I'm by myself and not at work.

The problem is that Howard was/is so successful that everyone thinks they can do his show better- talking about sex, potty humor, whatever. But they usually suck at it and their act sounds forced, like it doesn't come naturally to them. They have to put on their "Radio" voice.

Here in the Philly area we have 94.1 FM- The Rock Station. They would start w/ Howard, then go to Don (or Doug) and Mike from DC, then go to O and A from NY. You wouldn't hear a single song from 6a until 7p! This from people who call themselves The Rock Station! Thank god that O and A got fired!

Anyway, I've gotten an MP3 player and burn my own CD's w/ 150+ songs on them, so I get a pretty good variety.

Rogue II
09-26-2002, 01:22 PM
I have DishNetwork, so I get MTV2, MuchMusic, and VH1 Classic.

VH-1 Classic plays lots of classic rock and 80s music.

The only time I watch VH-1 now is when there is a Behind the Music on a band I like. I think the last one I watch was Aerosmith a few weeks ago.

Last year, I bought a new CD walkman. It plays regular CDs AND, it will play MP3s that you burn onto CD. I filled a few 750MB CDs with MP3s. I flew from Kuwait to California and only changed my CD twice and never heard a song more than once. It rocks.\\

Does anyone have XM radio? It sounds really cool...digital radio without commercials, but it costs $200-$300 for the radio and $10/month after that.

Exhaust Port
09-26-2002, 02:40 PM
Why spend that kind of money on XM when it sounds like you have a pretty cool technology now with your CD/MP3 player? From the reviews I've read on XM the technology is still too new and has limited station selection. Its not wall-to-wall music either as they also have DJ's. Why pay for that?

09-26-2002, 02:54 PM
From what I heard there are aroudn 200 channels for XM radio with no commercials. Some channels are just talk radio though and some are probably news radio and some are music.

09-26-2002, 03:31 PM
I don't like paying for cable now, I can't see spending that much on radio. Now, if I were on the road all the time with my job, then maybe, maybe.

09-26-2002, 03:43 PM
The thing with Howard Stern is that his show has already been done before - by Howard Stern. The shock is over.

If the Jerky Boys had a radio show, that would be funny. But nowadays you have to risk John Ashcroft coming down on you to do anything funny. I think that a good potty-humor radio show will have to have a bail account ready for the best humor.

The best thing here was when the KGB-FM radio hosts got arrested!

They broadcast a tape of the Space Shuttle pilots and Houston re-worked to indicate that the Space Shuttle had to make an emergency landing at San Diego's main airport. There were huge traffic jams and a few accidents as people jockeyed to get over to the airport and witness the landing. They did this during rush hour too! People were leaving their cars on the freeway and rushing to the fences that boardered the airport.

It was so funny that they did this on April Fool's Day and so many people fell for it. There really was a space shuttle mission, so I suppose that made it more feasible.

But even that wasn't funny while it was on the radio. It sounded like our astronauts really had flight problems and there were poor weather conditions in Houston. So it sounded serious. It was the story in the papers and on the news later, announcing it was all a joke and the stations' djays were arrested that was funny. Their follow-up show done "live at county jail" was hilarious. (they really had made bail, but they had plenty of guest prisoners who were ex-astronauts caught doing B&E on the Russian space station, etc. Sodomy in space...you name it. Geeze it was funny - thought their conviction of misdemeanors probably wasn't funny for their personal history. But better them than me. They did entertain all San Diego!

09-26-2002, 04:29 PM
Whoever said it may be a California thing ... checking back, yeah Rogue II ... may be right. I HATE morning radio here in LA and frankly I don't much care for it during the rest of the day either. The morning "comedy" jibber-jabber duo thing is just so lame here and I was tired of Howard Stern back when all he ever did was talk about his book - his movie - his book - his movie - his book - blah blah blah. The best thing that came out of all of this hatred for morning radio was that I really discovered NPR. My morning commute was a solid hour to an hour and a half for like 3+ years. I would have ended up killing someone if all I had to listen to in my old truck was one of the "morning zoo" shows. So instead it's the world news until 9 and then some of ... no, THE best music on the radio (KCRW) from 9 - 12.

When I moved to Los Angeles back in '87 there was great radio and nothing but variety ... now it's all been MTV'ed to death. I suppose that's the same no matter where you live though.

Rogue II
09-26-2002, 05:35 PM
Plasticfetish, they pipe those idiots on 95.5 up to Northen CA. I couldn't stand them when I was in Riverside. Even now, whenever we go back there to visit my wife's family, I listen to the station in that's based in San Bernadino or Redlands.

Back to XM for a second. I figure I will wait a while before I get it. That CD player I mentioned before is a walkman. I am thinking about getting a new Stereo/CD player for my truck. That's where I listen to the radio most. I guess XM has one unit that can go between your house and your car.

The CDplayer in my truck now is a pull-out Alpine. It works fine, except when it gets too hot, it won't let me put CDs in. It just keeps spitting it back out at me.:rolleyes:

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
09-26-2002, 10:18 PM
If there is one time of day people will listen to the radio, it is during the a.m. hours. As a result, pretty much every local station has a morning show that is talk (some all talk, some with talk and some music). That is the one rating period radio stations gear to win (cuz it can bring lots of advertising revenue). It isn't until the afternoons when you get the nationally syndicated personalities like Dr. Laura (ugh!) or Rush Limbaugh (vomit!) I guess Howard Stern is an exception.
Howard Stern has produced a lot of copycats, including the infamous Opie and Anthony, and a bunch of local shock jocks around the country that attempt to mooch off his success. If you ask me, there all the same with their hackneyed prank calls, vulgar, humiliating contests and other toilet kind of humor. I use to listen to them during my early days at college, but I have found that kind of shtick doesn't move me like it used to.

09-27-2002, 11:16 AM
I guess I should consider myself lucky for having 2 great rock stations.Real Rock 101.1 really stinks in the morning,because they try to be Howard Stern and fail.In the afternoon its much better though...However,O-Rock 105.9 balances music and morning talk.

105.9 has been very nice to their listeners,give out free doughnuts/promo items to those who pass by,and dont go overboard on the funny morning talk,and play music regularly.

I feel for those in California,all those radio stations and not a single one plays music in the morning!

On the topic of XM radio:To me,its a waste of money at the moment.Wait until the rich people buy it..the sales slow so they'll have to bring the price down for the average consumer.I dont think I am missing out on anything that is played on XM.

09-27-2002, 04:43 PM
Part of the reason morning radio is all talk is because of the audience. A large bulk of the audience is driving to work at the same time alone and talk radio gives some people a sense that they have "friends" in those morning zoo people. Comedy is easier to sell than any other type of talk because it's broader-based and engaging without being threatening (in theory) and can seem light even when talking about heavy stuff, so it makes sense that most morning talk radio is comedy-based.

Personally, I don't listen to commercial radio much anymore, though LA has a pretty good public jazz station now... too bad we don't have public rock stations or metal stations, we have multi-theme public stations but they're never what I want when I want it.

Exhaust Port
09-27-2002, 08:05 PM
If everyone is doing the Morning Zoo or Breakfast Flakes comedy show you'd think that someone could cutting edge by being the only station to just play music. Sure not everyone is put off by the morning jabbering but there are enough that are that would flock to any station that just played music.

09-27-2002, 09:33 PM
We have stations in this area that advertise as playing the most music, B101. Not only are they the most music, but they're the songs "you" want to listen to- contemporary w/out all the "rap", rock w/out all the "metal". Billy Joel, Elton John, Bryan Adams, Celine Dion.

All accomplished artists on their own (ecept Celine), but play them one after the other and you need to go wilding to get rid of all that hateful destructive energy.

Like Tycho says: Give me fuel, give me fire, give that which I desire!

2 other trends that I'm not crazy about are the need to be "registered" to win (WMMR makes you have the 'MMRCard to win just about anything), and being the 25th caller...

...NATIONWIDE! Not that I call in, but, well, I might someday:rolleyes: .

09-28-2002, 04:11 AM
unfortunately, radio is already far too expensive to run, when the market responds to silly talk over actual music, that is what the stations will respond to because that's where the money is and the money is what lets them keep broadcasting. Look at the regular music they play, 2 songs and then 4 or more minutes of commercials, sometimes over 1/3rd of their normal operating times will be dedicated to the advertising that pays for the entertainment. It's a joke when you're considered lucky whenever you hear 3 songs in a row that you like.