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mark2d2
10-04-2002, 10:56 PM
Now that we may infact be getting a Sandcrawler --- would any one out there be interesting in a re-release of the Rebel Troop transport?

Also, does anybody else have any decent loose photos of this ship? I don't know much about it and the photos in the collectors database leave much to be desired.

DarthBrandon
10-04-2002, 11:17 PM
Yeah, I'd be interested in a Rebel Transport ship, that would be just as nice as the Sandcrawler. If you want pics of it go on E-bay and you will find all you need.:)

boss nass
10-05-2002, 12:40 AM
I would Love a rebel transport! But it is fairly big.Bigger than the Falcon in some ways.But hey it's only plastic and can be easily made again.I'd pay $35-$40 tops for it.Bring it on

Lord Tenebrous
10-05-2002, 06:01 AM
I don't know, the more I think about it, the more I want a micro scale Rebel Transport, Star Destroyer, Blockade Runner, all with mini-figs.

4" scale vehicles are great with scenes, which is where stuff like the Coruscant Speeders and Slave 1 come in. But to get the massive feel of the larger ships, I think they should have their own scale, so you can appreciate the ships while *playing* with them.

Since most of the large ships and vehicles are out of scale, Hasbro should just make a Fleet Scale. Rebel Transport, Medical Frigate, Star Destroyer, etc. This is the way to market them so you can afford to re-create the end scene of TESB or the final battle of ROTJ. And a great gimmick would be to make the packaging look just like the interior of the particular ship, so you're getting the best of both worlds.

Bib Forlobster
10-05-2002, 06:45 AM
I remember the Troop Transport being more of a carrying case than a playship. Never owned it so I don't know how playable it was. I would still like to see a re-make though. I remember when the vintage line was coming to an end, TRU had these and the original Y-Wings piled high in their clearance section.

Man, if only I'd known back then (How many times have you said that?).

The real kicker is remembering the original POTF (Frozen Han, Luke Stormtrooper, etc.) being blown out at Kay-Bee for a $1.00 each. Bins full of them!!! Of course, I was in my mid-teens at the time and would have recieved a beating from my friends if they'd found out I was still buying toys. Oh well.

Jargo
10-05-2002, 08:55 AM
I'd love a re-issue of this for both my Tatooine dioramas and my Hoth one. I always wanted this ship as a kid but could just never get together enough cash. It's not spectacularly impressive or amazingly detailed but serves as both carry case and large accessory - very large accessory - and playset. If hasbro were to do a little retooling and add in some refined detail and an actual paint deco maybe move the tiny out of scale cockpit extension to the rear where it should be, I'd most certainly buy a couple

I've posted this pic montage from the action figure archive book.
It doesn't show the interior but it does give people who've never even heard of it a chance to form a tentative opinion.

Turbowars
10-05-2002, 12:18 PM
I think this should be left as a vintage ship. As with the Sandcrawler, it's just way to out of scale. I would much rather have a Cloud Car.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
10-05-2002, 12:38 PM
"The first transport is away . . ." "YEA!"

Come on, you knew it was coming. :D
It would be nice, of course with a new paintjob and stuff.

LTBasker
10-05-2002, 01:07 PM
I dunno, considering the differences between the vintage Sandcrawler and the recently released pics of the Saga Sandcrawler, I think Hasbro could possibly do it some justice. A much better paint job would really improve it, maybe it wouldn't be perfect in scale even for it's self, but hey, we'd even have the first Saga carry case. ;)

Turbowars
10-05-2002, 04:35 PM
But really, this ship didn't have much of a paint job in the film, so I see the only room for improvement would be it's size. That's true about a case for the kids, but I have no use for such a thing. I like the ship, but Hasbro just wont do it justice, just like the Crawler;)

Jargo
10-05-2002, 05:46 PM
But all the ships are out of scale. Save for the speeder bikes. Even Luke's landspeeder and the Coruscant speeders are all scaled down. The larger ships would be monstrously large if made to scale so compromises have to be made somewhere.
I would like to see a new version of the rebel transport same as with the sandcrawler but hasbro just aren't going to make large ships as new molds. The best we can hope for is new vehicles in the AT-TE or Dooku's ship and the Geonosian fighter. But as far as the OT vehicles go I can't see anything major happening apart from maybe a TIE fighter with larger wings or the re-issue of the cloud car.

My point is that the rebel transport was a cool way to store a few figures and a cool little playset type environment all in one. It's large enough to be played with that way but not so large that it takes up too much room. I have no place to put large vehicles anymore so this would be a fine size. It just needs a little work on sharpening the details and a slap of paint to make it a little more visually interesting. The top turret should be moved as I said to the rear where it's supposed to be. If Hasbro simply add in storage pod compartments with hatches on the outer hull or go the other way and improve the interior as a playset environment it would be enough to satisfy most. But I'd still buy it if they only added grey patches of paint to the exterior. The size would mean it didn't cost too much which seems to be one of the most relevent issues with collectors right now. Making an entirely new larger version would mean a high price point and fewer sales.
Marketed in the same way as it was originally as a carry case/playset it could be sold like the R2-D2 carry case from episode one and if TRU picked it up it would be available to the majority of collectors who wanted it.
ESB has had precious little in the way of releases lately aside from the accessory pack and there is the Han Solo and Chewbacca Hoth coming next year, along with a possible new snowtrooper. I see no reason why this wouldn't be a commercial success.
As I also said above, it works for both Hoth and Tatooine. In fact the one seen in the SE of ANH has a very nice dirty and worn look. Give the vintage mold this treatment and make it seem well used. Here's the pic....

Toysrgus rebel transport prototype loose shots (http://www.toysrgus.com/images-produ/photosample-rebtransport.html)

Turbowars
10-05-2002, 05:59 PM
Ok, give it a tatooine job and maybe. I relize all the ships are scaled down, but this baby is scaled way way down. All I'm saying is that Hasbro can do it. They do it for their 12" GI Joe line, although they seem to warm the shelf, but the SW line has done well. A new mold and a 1/4 bigger would do just fine. If We get a Tatooine paint job, I'll pick it up, heck no matter what, I'll pick it up.;)

LTBasker
10-05-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by turbowars
Ok, give it a tatooine job and maybe. I relize all the ships are scaled down, but this baby is scaled way way down. All I'm saying is that Hasbro can do it. They do it for their 12" GI Joe line, although they seem to warm the shelf, but the SW line has done well. A new mold and a 1/4 bigger would do just fine. If We get a Tatooine paint job, I'll pick it up, heck no matter what, I'll pick it up.;)

The shuttle is very scaled down, and yet theres been no complaints about that, and yet the majority of it's size is wing while the cockpit and cargo hold and down in scale. That's the beauty of the Rebel Transport toy, it's all space for figures.


Originally posted by turbowars
My point is that the rebel transport was a cool way to store a few figures and a cool little playset type environment all in one. It's large enough to be played with that way but not so large that it takes up too much room. I have no place to put large vehicles anymore so this would be a fine size. It just needs a little work on sharpening the details and a slap of paint to make it a little more visually interesting. The top turret should be moved as I said to the rear where it's supposed to be. If Hasbro simply add in storage pod compartments with hatches on the outer hull or go the other way and improve the interior as a playset environment it would be enough to satisfy most. But I'd still buy it if they only added grey patches of paint to the exterior. The size would mean it didn't cost too much which seems to be one of the most relevent issues with collectors right now. Making an entirely new larger version would mean a high price point and fewer sales.
Marketed in the same way as it was originally as a carry case/playset it could be sold like the R2-D2 carry case from episode one and if TRU picked it up it would be available to the majority of collectors who wanted it.
ESB has had precious little in the way of releases lately aside from the accessory pack and there is the Han Solo and Chewbacca Hoth coming next year, along with a possible new snowtrooper. I see no reason why this wouldn't be a commercial success.

Exactly Jargo, look at what the paint did between the Vintage Sandcrawler and upcoming one. Granted the paint detail will go lower in final production, but if it's anything close to that it should be great. Have to agree on the turret part (though I think that's actually the regular command station) but I think they put it in the middle as a way to lock all the pieces together so it wouldn't come apart during play. 'Course if they redid the innerds and made the top part able to snap off or something, then they could retool that area and move it back.

It'd be the perfect chance for a playset, you could have a section for Snowtroopers to "invade" and you could have a section for droids like FX-7 and K-3PO. The perfect pack-ins for this would be a Hoth Soldier from the POTF2 Deluxe set (pretty generic) plus some cargo containers that can go in the area that Snowtroopers "invade" so that the Rebels can ambush them.

jjreason
10-06-2002, 01:36 AM
Id buy one, and Id also buy a rebel trooper transporter re-make (that's the toy I was imagining when I entered this thread anyway!) as well. Pack it with a rebel hangar mechanic/technician and Ill take 2. Maybe 3.

Rogue II
10-06-2002, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by jjreason
Id buy one, and Id also buy a rebel trooper transporter re-make (that's the toy I was imagining when I entered this thread anyway!) as well. Pack it with a rebel hangar mechanic/technician and Ill take 2. Maybe 3.

I second the motion for both vehicles!

I don't care if the Rebel Transport is more of a carry case than a ship. I could use another carry case.

kdp100
10-06-2002, 09:42 AM
It would be VERY nice to see a Saga Rebel Transport. It was one of my favourite vehicles in the vintage line.

I doubt we'd see a new moulding, though, since
(1) It'd be cheaper for Hasbro to re-use the Kenner original, and
(2) The central position of the turret/tower, though inaccurate, allowed it to be used as a handle and to bolt the upper and lower halves of the ship together.

Turbowars
10-06-2002, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by LTBasker


The shuttle is very scaled down, and yet theres been no complaints about that, and yet the majority of it's size is wing while the cockpit and cargo hold and down in scale. That's the beauty of the Rebel Transport toy, it's all space for figures.




Not to be a smart @ss, I don't believe I was talking about the shuttle LT. I love the Shuttle! All I'm saying is the Transport needs improvement. It was to small then and I'm sure Hasbro will make it to small now. Heck if you guys want a figure case soooo bad, I would think you would want it to be a little bigger, about a 1/4 bigger. Put the gun in it's right place and slap on a detailed paint job and I'll buy it for $100+ That's what the 12" GI Joes go for.

LTBasker
10-06-2002, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by turbowars
Not to be a smart @ss, I don't believe I was talking about the shuttle LT. I love the Shuttle! All I'm saying is the Transport needs improvement. It was to small then and I'm sure Hasbro will make it to small now. Heck if you guys want a figure case soooo bad, I would think you would want it to be a little bigger, about a 1/4 bigger. Put the gun in it's right place and slap on a detailed paint job and I'll buy it for $100+ That's what the 12" GI Joes go for.

That was my point, I was comparing it to the complaints of the Rebel Transport's size and the Shuttle's size. The Rebel Transport in retrospect is bigger than the Shuttle. Can you put figures in the shuttle's wings? No. The majority of the shuttle is all wing like half of the AT-AT is leg. The Rebel Transport however, is all body, just like the upcoming Sandcrawler which allows for alot more space than the Shuttle has but no one's saying "they need make it bigger" to the shuttle because they're getting the illusion it's huge because of the wing mass.

If the Rebel Transport was handled right (new paintjob and better interior) then it would really be a great toy, and coming from the vintage mold like the Sandcrawler would probably make it alot cheaper than a more "accurate" resculpt would.

odb
10-08-2002, 04:03 PM
I'm one for a new Rebel transport. Although the vintage mould is good it does need a tweak or two.

The shield generator/tower/locking bolt could ideally be located futher back on the ship and the bridge could do located in the right place. How it could be done I don't know. Other than a new paint job there's not a lot you can do to it.

Oh while they're at it a Hoth Ion Canon playset would go down well too.:D

Jargo
10-08-2002, 05:26 PM
Are you talking about the massive round ball with a gun? I like the idea of using the exterior design as we saw in the movie and the interior design from the Ralph MacQuarrie concept art. It could have neat gun emplacement seat and control panels dead center with room around the inside wall for more controls. It'd make a cool Hoth playset/large weapon accessory even if hasbro did the usual and downscaled it. I guess by rights it would be as tall as an AT-AT but if they made it half that size it'd be cool to me. I'd also like them to release a new version of the gun turret from the playset in the POTF2 line. I never found the playset and I don't really want it but i do want just the turret, three in fact. How about both weapon emplacements sold together since there was a turret at the south entrance in the movie as well as the huge ION cannon?

That would be so cool, the rebel transport, the ION cannon and gun turret. Then all we need is a new Hoth rebel in the same costume as the vintage one but without a darned beard. And a new snowtrooper to pit the rebels against....


getting carried away here.


Another Hoth accessory set would be nice, those gattling guns they had in the trenches, power generators and cables, a modified gonk droid and the white and orange R3 droid or the black domed R5-M2, that little speeder with the large cannon seen in the frontline of the battle and also in the publicity shots in the hangar, this one in fact...

odb
10-12-2002, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by EMPEROR JARGO
Are you talking about the massive round ball with a gun

In a word yes.:D

I'm not sure which entrance the gun is supposed to be at but it is big. Its been done for Action fleet size (i think) and for the vintage micro collection.

In the film it is big possibly larger than an AT-AT, but its hard to judge from the film, so a playset version would have to be smaller, but if you look how the AF and micro versions were done, you can get some ideas on how it could be done and not look too out of scale.

If Hasbro really wanted to go overboard with Hoth playsets they could release a whole series of interconnectable sets ranging from the Ion Canon, Rebel turet emplacements, trench sections, power generators, Hanger space, Probe Droid crash site to the Wampa Cave.

Besides I think its time the Rebels got some firepower.

Ion control stand by...............

hango fett
10-12-2002, 05:59 PM
fire!!! hehe! seriously....i think that if it had a total overhall, new paint, lights sounds, the works...it could be very good! but hasbro isn't smart enough to listen to us.....:rolleyes:
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Turbowars
10-12-2002, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by hango fett
fire!!! hehe! seriously....i think that if it had a total overhall, new paint, lights sounds, the works...it could be very good! but hasbro isn't smart enough to listen to us.....:rolleyes:
h Hasbro listens to us, but they just do the complete opposite of what we say or ask for.;(

AdmiralPiett
10-13-2002, 03:04 AM
If the Rebel Transport were redone it would have to be retooled at least a little bit from the Kenner version because, as the vintage version stands as a carrying case, it's slots are way too narrow to fit any Saga figures other than AOTC C-3PO, Teemto Pagalies, and maybe Captain Typho.
Piett

Turbowars
10-13-2002, 09:22 AM
Thats one of the reasons why hasbro wont produce it. Hasbro would have to make special slots for each figure. I can't see that happening. It will have to be a playset, Yeah RIGHT!

hango fett
10-13-2002, 10:54 AM
ok. i got ya, turbo. so if we say a new luke, we get a new leia, right? (just an example..) but once in every 5000 years, they make a good desicon...at least it seems like that long...if i would run that for a week, we would have all the ones you guys want and many more!
mwwahha!
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Turbowars
10-13-2002, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by hango fett
ok. i got ya, turbo. so if we say a new luke, we get a new leia, right? (just an example..) but once in every 5000 years, they make a good desicon...at least it seems like that long...if i would run that for a week, we would have all the ones you guys want and many more!
mwwahha!
h You're catching on HangoFett LOL :crazed:. It's a little strange in the world of Hasbro. You never know what you are going to get. I imagine it's like the Willy Wonka chocolate factory, no one knows whats going on inside. :crazed: :crazed:

odb
10-15-2002, 03:10 PM
Hasbro listens to us, but they just do the complete opposite of what we say or ask for.;(

In that case I would like to see a small out of scale, badly painted, poorly detailed, highly expensive and with no pack ins vehicle available through a selected retailer preferably FAO Schwarz.:D

LTBasker
10-15-2002, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by odb


In that case I would like to see a small out of scale, badly painted, poorly detailed, highly expensive and with no pack ins vehicle available through a selected retailer preferably FAO Schwarz.:D

Well you got your wish, the Shuttle'll be arriving in December.

It doesn't work that way. ;)

Jedi Law Student
10-15-2002, 05:34 PM
I was lucky enough to pick up a Rebel Transport at a garage sale about ten years ago. The genius of this toy, as you have all noted, is that you could use it as a vehicle and as a carrying case. Plus, I really like the idea of a capital ship that you can actually put figures in.

I would like to see a new Rebel Transport. They could just reuse the old mold and repaint it. Of course, these days, you've gotta have a pack-in, so I would include a Hoth Rebel Soldier and/or maybe some droid like a modified GNK.

There's also some serious diorama potential here. Just get a couple of X-Wings to fly escort.

I always meant to pick up the Micro Machines Rebel Transport playset. I saw it once, but didn't get it. Then I never saw it again. It was cool looking though. The top came off to reveal the interior. There was a pack-in Rebel Soldier and some cargo, too, I think.

Those are my thoughts on the Rebel Transport. It always makes a cool toy.

mark2d2
10-15-2002, 08:53 PM
They could always "scrap" the playcase feature and retool the inside to just rooms of the ship. I think this would be a wicked toy and a awesome way to re-invent the wheel so to speak.

Jargo
10-16-2002, 03:28 PM
That would be sweet. As a pack-in they could shove the vehicle maintenance energiser with it and perhaps a couple of cargo crates. I'd prefer accessories to figures. Figures come out better as basic carded efforts and the pack-in figures are poorer quality. Pack a vehicle with accessories they wouldn't normally put with a figure we get more really. I think the days of the carry case are long gone so perhaps turning this into a pure ship might be better. The possibilities of what they could put inside are endless but i'd like it to be a sort of glorified bus with seats for troopers. Maybe a single seat tactical station with one of those clear star maps they have in rebel bases. Sharpen up the cockpit details and repaint the hull. That'd be cool for me.