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scruffziller
10-08-2002, 02:02 AM
People here are too skeptical to give the new guy a chance. They have that old folks mentality, since 60% of the population is 65 and over. No wonder the mid south part of the state is the second poorest region in the country.

Exhaust Port
10-08-2002, 08:53 AM
Yeah, but they got cheap corn.

JON9000
10-08-2002, 09:06 PM
Travelling Salesmen have a very tough time in Ioway. Harold Hill is the only one who pulled it off, and he almost caught the tar and feathers

thespar
10-08-2002, 09:13 PM
i guess i was wrong about the worst state for a small biz here i though it was good old NC.

Old Fossil
10-08-2002, 10:13 PM
But its a great state for fertilizer!!!

Exhaust Port
10-08-2002, 11:17 PM
That would probably be Wisconsin or some other state with a large industry of livestock. Unless you consider grain a fertilzer.... :rolleyes:

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
10-08-2002, 11:53 PM
As a child of two small business owners I can tell you that New York State isn't far behind. With rising costs in healthcare, taxes, supplies--just about everything--it is tough to start out as a small businessperson nowadays.

All our family needs to do is to hire corporate accountants to comb the books for tax loopholes so that we can pay zero taxes this year. ;)

darthvyn
10-09-2002, 01:08 AM
yeah, LBC. according to the study i saw, which i think is the same one as the impetus for this thread, NY is number 47... and you know what number that is out of... ;)

i'm gettin the hell out of this state... i'm moving to NEVADA - #1, baby!!!

scruffziller
10-09-2002, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by thespar
i guess i was wrong about the worst state for a small biz here i though it was good old NC.

I think that NC is down their too.

Exhaust Port
10-09-2002, 09:54 AM
You have to be part of the "family" to succeed in NV. :D

scruffziller
10-09-2002, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Exhaust Port
You have to be part of the "family" to succeed in NV. :D

heh heh:Pirate: :evil: :D

plasticfetish
10-11-2002, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by scruffziller
People here are too skeptical to give the new guy a chance. They have that old folks mentality, since 60% of the population is 65 and over. No wonder the mid south part of the state is the second poorest region in the country.

That's tough. But, knowing your state as well as I do ... I'd say that time will turn things around. Iowa has a great deal of potential ... not the least of which has to do with the fact that it's a nice place to live and the people are wonderful. Coming from a Southern Californian who hears people complaining about their quality of life constantly ... I think that there may well be a fairly significant reverse exodus of people and businesses back to the Midwest in the years to come.

My father, uncle and aunt all ran away from the state in the '60s, like most young people have done for years. Recently my aunt sold her home in Northern California and moved back to Central Iowa (your town I think). It didn't take her long to not only readapt but to end up loving the place, as well as develop an appreciation for the region that she never had growing up there.

Give it time ... attitudes change and hopefully as the population grows and changes, new opportunities will come with it. I just hope you don't lose the A&W in Indianola (we don't have them here) ... I've been eating there since I was two and I'd really miss it.

scruffziller
10-11-2002, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by plasticfetish


Give it time ... attitudes change and hopefully as the population grows and changes, new opportunities will come with it. I just hope you don't lose the A&W in Indianola (we don't have them here) ... I've been eating there since I was two and I'd really miss it.

Yea the A&W has been thriving, they have made quite a bit of upgrading to the place they've added scrolling light signs and neon lights all around the place it's pretty cool. I've been eating there since I was real young as well. There has been talk about trying to get southern Iowa to be the hotspot for celebrities and rich folk to come and vacation too. Unfortunately the first step to doing that is putting in the Osceloa Riverboat casino.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
10-11-2002, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Exhaust Port
You have to be part of the "family" to succeed in NV. :D

heh heh that is a good one :D






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I don't get it :confused:

plasticfetish
10-11-2002, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by scruffziller
There has been talk about trying to get southern Iowa to be the hotspot for celebrities and rich folk to come and vacation too. Unfortunately the first step to doing that is putting in the Osceloa Riverboat casino.

(Please tell me you're messing with me.)


Perhaps a large floating casino over at Lake Aquabi? I always got ear infections when I swam in that lake ... so maybe a casino would be better. (As long as it doesn't mess up the fishing.)

scruffziller
10-11-2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by plasticfetish


(Please tell me you're messing with me.)


Perhaps a large floating casino over at Lake Aquabi? I always got ear infections when I swam in that lake ... so maybe a casino would be better. (As long as it doesn't mess up the fishing.)

Nope not joking. They booked Tony Orlando to perform there last week.:D It is right on the river outside of Osceola. Ask Moderator Jedi Clint he lives there.

scruffziller
10-12-2002, 08:23 AM
Here is the proof.:crazed:

plasticfetish
10-12-2002, 11:38 AM
OK. I don't remember there being a river there big enough for a riverboat ... but it's a casino ON the the riverbank huh?

How do you guys there feel about having casinos moving in? (I can only imagine what my grandparents or some of the the other old timers would have said.) All I know is that we've got a bunch of them moving in to the poorer neighborhoods around here and it's a mess. Though that breakfast deal they have there at the Lakeside looks like a good one. :)

master jedi
10-12-2002, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by plasticfetish
OK. I don't remember there being a river there big enough for a riverboat ... but it's a casino ON the the riverbank huh?


***cough*** missouri river ***cough***

plasticfetish
10-12-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by master jedi


***cough*** missouri river ***cough***


Hahahaha ... I didn't say I was a smart ... I just said I didn't remember. (What the heck do I know, my family's from Warren County and I didn't get to go too far past Martinsdale when I was a kid.) I think maybe I just don't remember where Osceola is ... isn't that a bit far from the Missouri? (Would it be the Chariton River? Heck the map I'm looking at is from 1895 ... hmmm, hasn't changed that much.)

Next thing you'll be putting a riverboat casino on the Raccoon and floating it through Des Moines. :)

master jedi
10-14-2002, 01:42 PM
Oscepla isn't that far from Missouri. According to the sucky map I'm looking at it's about 40-50 miles from the border. It's about 20 miles from the Chariton River I think.
Don't hold me to my word. the map I'm looking at isn't that good.

Now back to the topic of the thread. Here in Sioux City strip malls are going in all over the place. No buisness moves in them except 1 or 2. Some times 3. And they're the same old stores. It's either a cell phone place, a hair cutting place, or a dollar store and the rest of the empty stores in the strip mall remain empty for a long time. I don't see why people keep putting up these malls when nobody moves into rents them out.

Exhaust Port
10-14-2002, 03:29 PM
We're the opposite here in OH. We use to have all these full strip malls but over the years stores have been going out of business and all we're left with is a cell phone place, a hair cutting place and a dollar store. One strip mall actually had competing dollar stores until one went out of business. How they drove them out of business is a mystery to me. Did one have BETTER crap for a dollar? :D

Jedi Clint
10-14-2002, 04:39 PM
Wow, a discussion about my town! It isn't very far from the northern border of Missouri. The boat sits on "West Lake". It has brought a bit of business to town, but I think they want Clarke County to foot the bill on a few things that most people here are against. For the most part it seems to be working out for the best.

My small business recently closed shop. I'm not placing any blame on anyone other than myself though. If I had chosen to spend less time with my family, I might have been able to compete more aggressively in this market. Running in the red is no way to make a living though, and it went on long enough that change was required. Being self employed is nice, but so is a paycheck ;). Who knows, I may eventually open the business again.

master jedi
10-16-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Exhaust Port
Did one have BETTER crap for a dollar? :D

I don't know why people open dollar stores. don't they know most of them close or go out of buisness?

Exhaust Port
10-17-2002, 08:04 AM
Have you noticed that a lot of these dollar stores are selling stuff that costs more than a dollar? It kind of defeats the purpose of calling yourself a dollar store if your charging $2 for something.

master jedi
10-17-2002, 03:24 PM
I've noticed that too. I think they call it a dollar store to signify that all prices are around a dollar if not a dollar itself.