View Full Version : What kind of Deluxe Figure do you see the most value in?
10-14-2002, 02:16 PM
We've had 11 Deluxe Figures released now, as opposed to 3 from Episode One in 1999, and 4 from POTJ in 2001.
In the past, figures came with giant accessories:
1996: Han Solo w. Smuggler Flight Pack,
Luke Skywalker w. Desert Sport Skiff,
and Crowd Control Stormtrooper with riot control gear.
Then in 1997, Deluxe Figures were redefined so as to please quite a lot of collectors:
The Hoth Probe Droid
Snowtrooper w. Tri-pod Laser Cannon
Hoth Rebel Soldier w. Radar Dish Cannon
and of course, Boba Fett got the '96 Look with a giant personal weapons array he wore like some kind of small plane attached to his back.
1998 saw no deluxe figures, though FX figures and Complete Galaxy lines as well as Gunner Stations were going through their trials.
1999 Deluxe Figures introduced action features we now find common on Saga Figures: lightsaber moves.
all had specific lightsaber moves triggered by removeable saber hilts you plugged into their backs to activate their moves by remote control.
2000 saw no Deluxe once again, but 2001's POTJ line came forward with an interesting selection.
There was Luke Bacta - almost a playset in its own right! Fans had wanted this figure for almost forever, and now it even had bubble action features and interacted with another figure, FX-7, foreshadowing a more interactive collection as a whole, like we see in the Saga collection now.
Darth Maul was almost both an Unleashed Figure attempt, and a two-pack with his Sith training droid, but he had the extra bonus of actually appearing in a comic with these exact features - including his full chest and back body-tattoos exposed.
Slave Leia came with a huge Sailbarge cannon accessory, movie-accurate, and reminiscient of the 1997 Deluxe Figures which included large - and useful - movie props with them.
Amanaman rounded out the group. Slightly larger than your average figure, Amanaman featured a McFarlane approach to the character, complete with a decomposed corpse for him to carry around, along with his fully detailed headhunter staff. In spite of having less value added for a Deluxe, Amanaman was the 2nd Fans' Choice Figure, and claimed high demand.
Today we have main characters and Jedi Knights, beasts and army builders, all displaying the widest variety of an interpretation for "a Deluxe Figure" in the new Saga Line.
Which ones do you see the value in?
Should they continue to make these?
What kinds of Deluxe Figures would you like?
Which one that they've done do you like the best?
I actually would have preferred a poll where we could rate all of the deluxe figures. If we simply ranked them, it would be hard to get all of the force-flipping figures last, for instance, so we would have to be able to rate them. Even though I haven't seen it, I love the idea of the Clonetrooper with speeder bike as a deluxe figure. The figure actually looks like someone wearing armor, as opposed to the tiny normal clonetroopers, plus we get a bike that is useful in a movie-like atmosphere. I also really like the Yoda and C-3P0 sets that include movie playsets with them, this makes it easy to spend $10 on them. The Nexu and Anakin and Mace were nice, you got a decent size beast and they made it electronic to justify the $10, and the figures at least had some kind of feature (a target enemy) to interact with. Finally, the force-flipping figures were just horrible, very little play value, bad likenesses, and a pretty dumb feature combined.
10-14-2002, 04:29 PM
I missed voting in the poll, but here is my opinion. I have bought 3 Saga Deluxes so far-3PO, Mace/Droid, and the Nexu, all of which are fantastic (Although I think I will glue the BD that comes with Mace together). Action feature/target figs are ok, but I prefer large electronic figures or figures with playsets. I do not have the deluxe clone, so I can't judge yet, although it looks great. Here are the good points of each (In my personal opinion)-
Force Flippers-None. :D
Large Electronics-Well, they are electronic (Obviously), the electronics cost some money so Hasbro can't afford to put many stupid gimmicks in, in the Nexu's case (Or the case of any other figure that is slightly larger than a human) you can make them larger without selling them in a box for $15.00.
Playsets-They usually come with 2 figures, which is a plus, the playsets can REALLY aid in diorama-making, they usually have some neat features (C-3PO's switchable limbs), they provide much-needed army builders, or they allow people to get figures they wouldn't buy on a card (Like the Saga 3PO, I'll be damned if I'm getting the basic one :D).
Accessories-I'm supposing you mean small ships, not like the Accessory sets. First of all, you get a figure and a ship for $10 instead of $15 (Like Luke/Leia/Scout on Speeder Bike or the Swoop), army builders, once again, and I will not list any more in this because they are just too partial to the Clonetrooper.
Target Practice- Army builder, fun action features :D, oppurtunity to buy a figure you wouldn't get on a card (Geo. Mace :rolleyes), violent fun :evil: :D, etc., etc.
I prefer the Playsets. They seem to give you the most for your money, and I build dioramas, so I like that too.
10-14-2002, 06:37 PM
Electronic Deluxe figures, I hope the Dwarf Spider Droid is electronic.
10-14-2002, 07:53 PM
I'm quite impressed with the clone trooper, though I haven't seen it anywhere yet. I voted for figures with playsets because there simply aren't enough playsets. Not to mention, the ones with the playsets so far have had 2 figures and neat action features for the same price of the horrible flipping figures. I would gladly pay deluxe figure prices if every regular character came with partial playsets like these ones.
10-14-2002, 09:47 PM
i will have to go with the playsets but that might have change if i have seen th eclonetrooper.
10-14-2002, 10:19 PM
I voted for the Clone and Speeder, but I don't have it so, why did I vote for it?? Who knows, but Hasbro has done a good job on many deluxe, screwed up on some. The Crappy @ss flip stuff has to go! I should have voted for C-3PO, it's fun and it works!
10-15-2002, 03:09 AM
Ranked in order of "like".
a figure with accessories like the Clone Trooper speeder pilot
I'd say this one first ... a nice articulated figure with lots of good relevant bits. Will hopefully have good play as well as display value. I haven't got the trooper yet, but I'm looking forward to it.
a figure with a playset like Yoda or C-3PO
As long as the set pieces aren't made like junk I'd say this is my #2. If it's all built well and the figures work with the sets the way they are supposed to ... then again, you've got good play/display value. I happen to quite like these two specific sets.
an electronic, large figure like the Nexu
I think these toys are turning out just fine really. The Nexu in particular is a fun little toy ... one that I will wait to find on clearance.
a figure with action features and a target figure, like Anakin or Mace
I will appreciate "action features" the day that I'm in a coma and can't physically generate some sort of action for the figures on my own ... oh wait, if I'm in a coma then I won't care ... so I suppose there's no point in these for me.
a Force-flipping action figure like Anakin or Dooku
I'm not interested in these figures at all ... it's pretty much a one-trick-pony on all counts. Even for a kid, once you play with it a few times it's lost it's appeal (or broken.)
10-15-2002, 08:46 AM
I voted for "a figure with accessories like the Clone Trooper speeder pilot"
although I don't have him yet, I loved the Snowtrooper with E-Web Cannon from the POTF2 line and I hope this sort of deluxe figs will be released more often (instead of those horrible force-flipping pieces)
jedi master sal
10-15-2002, 10:50 AM
I have to say that since I am an army builder it makes sense that I would vote for the clone/speederbike. This as well as the Target exclusive accessory sets have been fun to collect. Although I don't have the clone/speederbike set yet you can bet I will when I see them and more than one for sure. These sets have enabled collectors to either get figures as yet unavailible ie red battle droid (unless you count the one with deluxe mace) or hard to find figs like the death star trooper which was very hard to find in my area, or even a variant ie the Hoth soldier who is a mix between the rebel hoth officer and luke hoth. I am pleased with Hasbro apparent ....progress.
The deluxe sets such as C-3PO or Yoda and the Nexu are tied as my second choices. These in part because they are main characters/beasts. It wouldn't make sense to package the Nexu in a box as it was too small to warrant that
I liked all the rest with the exception of the force flipping action sets to which I did not by any of. I thought these were cheesy gimmicks moreover since not seen in the movie had no place in my collection also due in part to the fact that we knew we would see these as regular 3 3/4 figs.
well there's my 2 credits worth.
10-15-2002, 01:37 PM
I don't think I've ever agreed with so many of the post before. Of course I have my individual reasons, but my two favorites were a figure with accesories (like the Clone Trooper & bike) and a figure with a playset like Yoda or C-3PO. Had this been during POTJ, I would have chosen "with playset" or maybe it's "with accessory".... whatever people are counting the bacta tank and the sail barge cannon. Those were amazing and MUCH better than the current sets with Yoda & 3PO. I mean, I bought both of them and like them, but they can't touch the POTJ deluxe figures. I refuse to buy the force flipping figures... what a waste (of plastic, development time, money... the list goes on). Personally, I bought the Nexu, C-3PO, & Yoda, though I think the Nexu would have been as good without the electronics and then no battery acid worries. I may have bought the slicing Anakin w/Geonosian, IF the Anakin wasn't SOO BAD. I am really looking forward to finding the deluxe clone trooper with speeder and maybe the flying Geonosian or whatever that one is.
I don't know, maybe Hasbro should let there sculptors go wild and develop 100s of ideas and let the buyers vote for what they want. I know it would never happen, but then mayber there wouldn't be all the failures sitting out there as pegwarmers. And then, just maybe, we would see new figures like Bail Organa, Owen, Beru, Cliag, etc before we see our 10th Anikan or Padme or Obi-Wan.
10-15-2002, 02:40 PM
Figures with playsets are GREAT -- They are a great play value for children at a low cost -- this is a close tie with the figures with target figures. I remember getting action figures and only being allowed to get ONE! -- This was hard for a little kid -- who is he going to fight/play with?!?! -- Two figures for the (almost) price of one is GREAT. Force Flipping is hopefully DEAD! -- Please no more of this kind of CRAP!! Electronic figures like the NEXU are good -- but I believe even they can be offered at the same price as the regular figures -- there is NOT much difference minus the electronics...
10-15-2002, 08:26 PM
I voted for the Clone Trooper w/ Speederbike, but it's so rare that Hasbro does something like this that's right, usually it's "Luke w/ Desert Sport Skiff" instead. I guess I don't trust Hasbro to get it right very often, deluxes usually have substandard paint or design or materials or manufacturing that leave me wondering why I spent more for them than their higher-quality basic brethren.
Let me ask, what makes "a figure with accessories like the Clone Trooper speeder pilot" not include electronic Jango? Would he fit in there better than "an electronic, large figure like the Nexu"? If Electronic Jango fits with the former, then I've wasted my vote because I definitely don't want more of that.
I have bought in the saga line:
- Force Flipping Dooku
- Mace w/ droid
- Anakin w/ geonosian
- 3PO w/ droid
- Yoda w/ SBD
Of those, I've been mildly amused w/ Flip-off Dooku, somewhat disappointed in Mace, somewhat disappointed in Anakin, mildly amused w/ 3PO, and Yoda is defective in several catagories so I have little enjoyment so far there. If I had paid full price for these, in total I would have wasted $40 of the $50 spent.
I avoided the Nexu because of limited articulation/posability and a lack of interest in the character. Mace w/ droid and Anakin w/ geonosian are the same problems, main figure is limited in articulation, gimmick figure doesn't react properly to main figure (mace's droid falls apart at a glance and ani's geonosian won't come apart when he whacks him), and overall quality is lacking. With dlx 3PO, the paint apps were simply too limited. With flipping dooku, the gimmick gets stale once you've figured out how to get it to work nicely, it's a one-trick pony. None of these seem "deluxe" compared to the basics and that's what bothers me, deluxe prices for toys that have less quality put into them.
10-16-2002, 02:38 AM
The new Clone Trooper Deluxe Figure is way cool!
The only disapointment is he does not have articulation at the waist, to allow for his grenade tossing action feature.
On that note, the grenade tossing feature really works - and it works well. It was fun to play with for a few minutes, but due to the fact that the Clone Trooper needs a loose grip on the grenade to hurl it with a press of the button on his back, he doesn't hold his gun too well. But that's nothing one of those little clear rubberbands wouldn't fix.
Meanwhile, I also would have liked a holster for his blaster gun.
The 5 pieces of removeble armor fit on him just awesome!
This figure is perfect for any Kamino Cloning Lab diorama! Make the clones be posed donning their armor, or getting their helmets and suiting up for combat training!
I bought 2 - that was all that was there - but I plan to get up to 6 total, these figures are so nice!
They bend at the knees, and twist at the lower leg, too - for good poseability on or off the speederbike (included) - though I plan to put some kind of later, highly poseable Clone on the bikes in my battle scenes, and leave the guys with the removeable armor to be shown on Kamino. The throwing arm is adjustable (not like Arena Padme who's permanently posed in a shooting position). You can have this figure hold his helmet at his side, or be sitting, pulling on a leg guard segment of his armor. One wrist (the left hand) pivots. He can also be posed double-handling his blaster (firing from his right hand on the trigger).
The helmet and speederbike have a lot of rubbery feeling parts.
Note that when you put the bike into storage on the Republic Gunship, you have to take off the fron steering vane so it will fit.
The vane actually stores underneath the speederbike, so snap it into place first, then put your bike's main body aboard your gunship to fly it into battle!
How would I rate this deluxe figure? Top notch. It's really hard to say but only C-3PO / Battle Droid Deluxe comes close to this much playability and utility for me.
Nice job on the Clone Trooper Deluxe Hasbro!
(found at K-mart for $10.99)
BTW: I think the Nexu is great, however, I don't see that it needed to be a Deluxe figure. We just were lucky it was marketed this way, instead of a more expensive beast assortment package, with a cheap or resculpted pack-in figure.
JediTricks' reviews were mostly right on. He forgot to mention some issues with the attack-action figures: their target figures have no foot holes on the bottom of their feat. Stand Mace's battledroid up and it falls over and falls apart before Mace can hurl any Force-effect at it. And JT: you are lucky if your Geonosian doesn't come apart when Anakin whacks it. Mine comes apart way too easy, and it also won't stay standing up. In fact all Geonosians lack foot peg holes, unfortunately.
Finally, Jango Fett armor most closely resembles the Speederbiker Clone with the accessories, but the lack of poseability in the legs and the giant hole in his back for the electronic backpack seriously detract from the playability and authenticity of this figure. Jango was a mistake. The clone trooper was not.
Last but not least, one virtue of the Flipping Darth Tyranus is that you can add on more lightsaber to his other hand (Anakin's blue one), and he can be posed to look seriously cool fighting Yoda w. 2 sabers. He can stand on his own OFF the magnet pad, but on it, things sure are a lot easier.
So while nothing has touched the highest quality of the Deluxe Figures like Luke Bacta, Snowtrooper, Hoth Rebel, the Deluxe Clone Trooper comes the closest! (Slave Leia ought to have had her sailbarge cannon come with a full-blown sailbarge to actually be useful!)
10-16-2002, 10:18 AM
I like these 3:
An electronic, large figure like the Nexu: A new Probe droid would be nice
A figure with a playset like Yoda or C-3PO: Plenty of ideas for this
A figure with accessories like the Clone Trooper speeder pilot: A new Scout Trooper? Yavin Hanger Tech w/ pilot transport?
I'm not sure which one to vote for. I like the variety.
10-16-2002, 12:07 PM
I voted for the larger items, like Nexu. For me, I'm interested in collecting minature representations of the characters that I see onscreen, be they humans, Midi-laden-superhumans, aliens, droids, or beasts.
It doesn't seem likely that Hasbro would have created and released an item like Nexu on it's own as a beast and it's too big and beast-like to be considered an action figure. The same thing with the Mynock. Without a larger deluxe-style release, it seems unlikely that we would have the opportunity to own some of these characters.
As for the gimmicks, like Force Flipping Action and stuff, for me anyway, it's interesting for about 5 minutes. There isn't a ton of extended play value in something like that for kids either, as I've witnessed. Putting more effort into the ships and playsets appears to have the best payoff overall for the dollar.
10-16-2002, 12:56 PM
Rogue II said he'd like to see an Imperial Bikerscout with removeable armor accessories like the Deluxe Clone Trooper.
How about Han and Luke stormtroopers done in this manner?
I think that would be seriously cool!
10-16-2002, 01:32 PM
I wish we could have selected more than one option. I wanted to pick the large, electronic figure; the figures with a miniplayset and the figures with a vehicle. However, since I could only pick one, I picked the large, electronic figures. The other two offer too many chances of scene specific resculpts.
I would love to see large size deluxes of many of the droid vehicles from AOTC and the Droid Fighters from TPM (fully transformable and not so poorly designed). This would also be a great way to get characters like Jabba and items like the torture rack from ESB.
I think the last wave of Deluxes was the greatest. Leia and Luke were awesome new sculpts with great accessories and Amanaman was a supercool figure by himself (even though he was a little skimpy for a DX). I didn't buy Maul.
I think the biggest rip-off as far as the Deluxe pricetag is concerned has to be 300th Boba Fett. $10 for a figure with less detail than we get with a standard Saga figure? What a load of crap.
10-16-2002, 02:00 PM
I voted for the Large Electronic Figures. Personally I really like the Nexu and am glad Hasbro didn't box it and sell it for $15. I think more characters should be done like that.
I might have voted for the the Clonetrooper/Speederbike if I owned it, but alas, I do not yet so I will reserve judgement.
And as far as the Force Flippers, what the hell was Hasbro thinking? I bought the Dooku one because I could not find the basic one at the time and I have never been more disgusted with a figure. No Articulation, Bad Sculpt, Permenant Lightsaber in his hand, and worst of all I have yet to get the flipping to work. Ugh....
10-16-2002, 05:10 PM
Tycho, my Dlx Ani Geonosian is pretty tight actually, it'll come apart if it gets knocked down, but it has fairly good balance so Ani's saber slash is way too wimpy to bust it up by itself.
I don't use pegs much for the Ep 2 figures, so the peg-hole issue hasn't been much on my mind, but it is frustrating and pointless, peg holes could be put on both the "target" figs and the other geonosians.
I don't think dlx Jango deserves to go in the same category as dlx Clone Trooper, I certainly wouldn't vote for another dlx figure of Jango's "quality".
10-16-2002, 07:04 PM
I voted for The "playsets" but, the Clone Trooper with speeder is a close second...my favorite "Figure" in a deluxe pack is the Clone with speeder but over all I want playsets as "pack-ins" with deluxe figures
**Posted by Prince Xizor **
"And as far as the Force Flippers, what the hell was Hasbro thinking? I bought the Dooku one because I could not find the basic one at the time and I have never been more disgusted with a figure. No Articulation, Bad Sculpt, Permenant Lightsaber in his hand, and worst of all I have yet to get the flipping to work. Ugh...."
You read my mind! Force Flippers SUCK!
10-17-2002, 01:23 PM
As the SW line in general has progressed over the last few years, the accessory/deluxe sets have greatly improved.
I'd like to see more figures like the Target accessory packs released. Those are high quality and what the fans/collectors are looking for.
I haven't bought any of the Force flippers. If I do, I'll wait until they're clearanced.
The C3PO/battle droid set is cool. I thought it would sell better than it has. The Yoda/SBD is great!
10-17-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Tycho
Rogue II said he'd like to see an Imperial Bikerscout with removeable armor accessories like the Deluxe Clone Trooper.
How about Han and Luke stormtroopers done in this manner?
I think that would be seriously cool!
That would be pretty cool. I doubt we would see them any time soon because of that cool little Trash compactor scene that's coming out next year.
How about an electric ROTJ Jabba that talks? Or Wampa? Or a tauntaun that just stands there would be nice too.
Playsets could be from the Rebel Bases, Death Star, or just about any other scene in the SW Universe. There are plenty of ideas for these in the Dear Hasbro Section.
I don't think Hasbro should stick with just one type. There is no shortage for ideas on any of these. They need to quit making the Action features and flipping figures they don't seem to be very popular.
10-17-2002, 08:45 PM
Who are the two people who voted for the Force-Flippers?:confused:
I think the last assortment of POTJ Deluxe should be the blueprint for the future. Awesome, high-quality figures who are not just simple rehashes of existing figures (even though the jury is still out on DX Maul). I'm totally amazed that Ephant Mon wasn't packaged as a Deluxe, since he is bigger than Amanaman; or as a Beast pack, since he is bigger than Jabba (without the tail).
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