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sith_killer_99
10-18-2002, 09:39 PM
OK, I quit smoking on Jan 27th and I haven't touched tobacco since. The early days were TOUGH!!! The last couple of months have been easier.

However, I have suddenly been saddled with a heavy dose of extra stress and I feel like I'm gonna break. I mean it, I haven't had the urge to light up this bad since day 1!!!

I just had to say it, it helps me cope. Any word of encouragement would be good. This is the first time I have seriously considered lighting up in a LONG time.

Running through the list of why I quite/shouldn't light up:

1. For my daughter.

2. For my wife.

3. For my health.

4. Because it killed my Grandmother.

5. Because it is slowly killing my Mother.

6. Because I have come to far to give up now.

7. If my wife can deal with quitting so can I.

8. Because I need to set a good example to my fellow soldiers.

9. Because I will NOT give anyone the satisfaction of saying I couldn't do it.

10. Because I want to help others quite.

Argh, after almost 9 months how can this stuff still have it's claws in me??? Damn nicotine...more addictive than heroine!!!

HELP!!!

derek
10-18-2002, 10:10 PM
Damn nicotine...more addictive than heroine!!!

i've heard this said numerous times and i don't believe it. that or either heroin isn't very addictive. i've smoked numerous times, sometimes for short periods, and have never felt it was addictive.

Exhaust Port
10-18-2002, 10:11 PM
This sounds like its a real problem and can't be solved through "Forum Advice." If it's that serious, seek professional help.

sith_killer_99
10-18-2002, 10:24 PM
I guess one of the big factors (psychologically) is the act of doing something 20 or so times a day, every day for 9 years (or however long a the smoker has smoked) and then giving it up. I had a habit of smoking when I was stressed out. It served as a release for me. Now I'm stressed out again and that trigger is being pulled.

When I was going through smoking cessation classes they warned us about "triggers". Times when we used to light up automatically. For me driving was a big one. Pulling 24 hour duty was another one (I have 24 hour duty TOMORROW by the way). And of course stress, usually just the negative stress.

Anyway, they also said to try to find other things to do, besides smoking. Posting here and talking about what I am going through is a big help for me.

It's not really something I need professional help for, I just need to...vent.

Darth Sidious
10-18-2002, 11:05 PM
Well, I have never smoked in my life, but here is my advice.
-Get rid of every cig in the house and DO NOT BUY MORE.
-Keep thinking of your list of reasons and adding to it.
-Imagine what it will do to your lungs.
-Stay away from secondhand smoke. It can trigger the cravings.
-Find a healthy habit (jogging, etc.) or at least chew gum. I hear that putting an object the same size as a cigarette will sort of simulate the feeling of having one, except without the nicotine and tar and tobacco and formaldehyde and smog and rat poison and carbon monoxide and sulfur and arsenic...I could go on all day. You don't want that stuff inside you...
Congrats on quitting, by the way. Hang in there. :D

Old Fossil
10-18-2002, 11:24 PM
Yoda didn't smoke, and lived over 800 years. Use the Force, sithkiller...

Seriously, hang in there. The fit will pass, if it hasn't already.

Jedi Clint
10-19-2002, 12:24 AM
D.S. is right about keeping cigs out of the house. Someone told me that after you quit, your lungs will regenerate themselves (for the most part) in seven years. Whether that was true or not, it helped me quit. It gave me a specific goal to reach toward. I am pretty close to reaching that goal, but the cravings have long since passed. You'll make it.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
10-19-2002, 12:53 AM
Keep up the good fight SK99!

Coming from a family of smokers, I kinda understand how tough it can be to quit. Out of both parents, and two siblings who smoked like a chimney, my father has been the only one to kick the habit as of yet (and that was due to health reasons). My mother must of quit smoking fifteen different times only to go back to it. She told me she started when she was twelve. It was the thing to do back in the 50's, smoking was (and still is) glorified, and you were considered 'cool' if you lit up cancer sticks.

If you do feel stressed, turning back to your old smoking habit is not the healthy thing to do. Whenever I do get stressed, I get a nice hot bath going and I just kick back and relax (too bad our family's bath is two inches shorter than my frame, or I would be comfortable and relaxed).


Originally posted by derek
i've smoked numerous times, sometimes for short periods, and have never felt it was addictive.

Wow, with that line, you'd fit right in with the tobacco companies!

The 'Xir
10-19-2002, 01:10 AM
Hey SK!
Listen I've never been a very addictive person, so I don't know how much help I'd be, but addiction although chemically enhanced is still a mind over matter problem!

Every time you get an urge, do something else, go out and buy a pack a gum or something, you need something to replace the craving of a cigarette! If you do it enough times, your mind will no longer want cigs, although you may have to put all your money in Juicy Fruit stock with all the money they'll be making off ya! ;)

Although, from the sounds of it, you really need to remove the stress factors in your life, easier said then done, believe me I know, but then again...you could always go to a Naked Massage Parlor!!!! :D

Good Luck!..your gonna need it.

darthvyn
10-19-2002, 01:52 AM
every time you wanna buy a pack, instead put the $ in a jar instead - in a couple of months you can buy a car! lol...

seriously, i respect anyone that tries to break an addiction from something.

keep adding to the list - it'll help.

if need be, use the patch.

use it as an excuse for some extra attention from the missus? that'll help with the stress! :D

2-1B
10-19-2002, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by darthvyn
seriously, i respect anyone that tries to break an addiction from something.

Does that include porn?

plasticfetish
10-19-2002, 03:32 AM
Oooof! That's so tough.
I wish you strength ... all of your reasons to stop are good ones. When my son was born, a lot of habits had to change and smoking (the "out at night" cigarettes) was one of them. I smoked off and on for years, when I was working super long days "on set" it kicked in hard. I'll admit even now 5 years later I'm sometimes wanting a smoke. But, yeah ... after a while your body heals and looses it's tolerance to the poisons and it's easier to just avoid the whole thing. But sometimes, sometimes ... you just want a ...

As far as it being as/more addictive as Heroin goes ...
I think what makes it a bigger problem is the acceptance factor. Unfortunately I've known people that suffer mightily from both addictions ... and they really are similar on many levels. Once you know chemical dependence of any sort, it becomes a life long battle.

I personally started collecting toys as a distraction.;)

Jedi Master Silas
10-19-2002, 04:36 AM
Hey Sith. I quit December 31. It was the hardest thing I've ever done. Please think of this when you feel the urge to smoke...your grandchildren will need a Grampa to teach them about Star Wars :) Also think about the fact that your positive step towards not smoking could give you so many more years with your wife and child, I saw that posted on your thread but I had to say that. I quit so I could add years to my life with my husband.

Just think about those nasty pictures of smokers lungs, the hacking, coughing, the money you spend. I started boxing again...maybe something atheletic might help. Dont use stress as a reason to start again! I can name tons of natural things you can do to handle stress......herbs, excercise, punching bag and fishing (my favorite). Focus on throwing out the stress or finding a way to handle it besides smoking. Hang in there and good luck!

187-Maul
10-19-2002, 07:34 AM
I agree with darthvyn, evrytime you feel the urge to buy a pack, put the money in a jar or something and after some time you see what you saved and you can buy somenthing nice for you (like 100 SW figs:D )

good luck, I hope you make it

Pendo
10-19-2002, 08:17 AM
I've never took up smoking so I have no idea how hard it is to quit. You always think it's easy but it isn't.

Keep up the good work SK99! You'll regret it if you light up!

PENDO!

derek
10-19-2002, 10:13 AM
Wow, with that line, you'd fit right in with the tobacco companies!

i just don't think smoking is addictive. i have tried it in an actual attempt to see if i could get hooked on it and i couldn't. i clearly recall people like bob dole, when he was running for president, saying "cigaretts are more addictive that heroin".

that just sounded goofy to me because if this was so, either tobacco would be illegal, or heroin would be legal.

base on my experiment, tobacco is not addictive. actually, the smoker has to go thru quite a bit just to get the smoke actually inhaled into the lungs. what an unpleasant and unnatural act that is. what's next, gargling with motor oil.:)

The Overlord Returns
10-19-2002, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by derek


i just don't think smoking is addictive. i have tried it in an actual attempt to see if i could get hooked on it and i couldn't. i clearly recall people like bob dole, when he was running for president, saying "cigaretts are more addictive that heroin".

that just sounded goofy to me because if this was so, either tobacco would be illegal, or heroin would be legal.

base on my experiment, tobacco is not addictive. actually, the smoker has to go thru quite a bit just to get the smoke actually inhaled into the lungs. what an unpleasant and unnatural act that is. what's next, gargling with motor oil.:)

the statement above isn't true. Cigarettes are highly addictive, but there not more addictive than heroin. They also cause their addictive ways by attacking different parts of the brain.....

you actually do have to smoke for a few years to be considered "addictive"....but it depoends on your personality. Derek here clearly didn't find the act of smoking appealing, lowering his chances for addiction. Myself, I found the whole thing fit like a glove. I love smoking.....and have no intentions of quitting....

that said....don't give up on the fight man. Keep doing well and avoiding smokes....you'll settle in eventually...

Jedi Clint
10-19-2002, 07:44 PM
I always felt it was more habit forming than addictive.

plasticfetish
10-19-2002, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Clint
I always felt it was more habit forming than addictive.

Hahaha ...


From Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary :

Main Entry: hab·it-form·ing
Pronunciation: 'ha-b&t-"for-mi[ng]
Function: adjective
Date: 1913
: inducing the formation of an addiction

.. and ...

Main Entry: ad·dic·tion
Pronunciation: &-'dik-sh&n, a-
Function: noun
Date: 1599
1 : the quality or state of being addicted <addiction to reading>
2 : compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful

Jedi Clint
10-19-2002, 09:17 PM
What was the point of your post?

For those with an addictive personality, using the drug surpasses simply being a habit and becomes an addiction.

Haha?! :p

mini-rock
10-19-2002, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by sith_killer_99
OK, I quit smoking on Jan 27th and I haven't touched tobacco since. The early days were TOUGH!!! The last couple of months have been easier.

However, I have suddenly been saddled with a heavy dose of extra stress and I feel like I'm gonna break. I mean it, I haven't had the urge to light up this bad since day 1!!!

I just had to say it, it helps me cope. Any word of encouragement would be good. This is the first time I have seriously considered lighting up in a LONG time.

Running through the list of why I quite/shouldn't light up:

1. For my daughter.

2. For my wife.

3. For my health.

4. Because it killed my Grandmother.

5. Because it is slowly killing my Mother.

6. Because I have come to far to give up now.

7. If my wife can deal with quitting so can I.

8. Because I need to set a good example to my fellow soldiers.

9. Because I will NOT give anyone the satisfaction of saying I couldn't do it.

10. Because I want to help others quite.

Argh, after almost 9 months how can this stuff still have it's claws in me??? Damn nicotine...more addictive than heroine!!!

HELP!!!

I started smoking when I was 15, mostley because I thought it was the "cool" thing to do, and did it till 21. I first started out with 3-5 a day, but that changed real fast. The last 3 years I was smoking almost 2 packs a day. woke up one day, and just decided to quit, cold turkey. I remember the first 2 weeks being absolute hell, but as time passed so did the craving. That was until about 6 months after quiting, and the cravings came back. I decided to start an excercise program figuring it would help, and it did, a little. About 3 years after I had quit on News Years eve I had a smoke and it tasted like friggin crap. I thought I was going to hurl, but started drinking and proly smoked about 10 that night. Ever since I smoke about 1-5 a year, which I consider to be a huge improvement over what I previously smoked, but there isn't a day that goes by that I do not crave a smoke. I even have a pack sitting in my garage just in case I do decide to have one. IMO it's ok to smoke, but just don't abuse it. I know they are bad for you but so are hamburgers, car exhaust, even licking envelopes, and of course beer & alcohol. Just like with everything else don't abuse it, the occasional smoke IMO is just fine. I don't know if this helps, but thought I give my input as a smoker.:)

JON9000
10-20-2002, 05:02 PM
Watch The Insider with Russell Crowe as the ex Tobacco exec! It will keep you from wanting to take a puff! Really!

scruffziller
10-21-2002, 12:53 PM
Yea I have talked to alot of folks who are still smoking and told me that they have tried many drugs, been addicted, and smoking cigs was the only thing that could not kick.

scruffziller
10-21-2002, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by derek


i just don't think smoking is addictive. i have tried it in an actual attempt to see if i could get hooked on it and i couldn't. i clearly recall people like bob dole, when he was running for president, saying "cigaretts are more addictive that heroin".

that just sounded goofy to me because if this was so, either tobacco would be illegal, or heroin would be legal.

base on my experiment, tobacco is not addictive. actually, the smoker has to go thru quite a bit just to get the smoke actually inhaled into the lungs. what an unpleasant and unnatural act that is. what's next, gargling with motor oil.:)

wow QLD, another candidate for the .01% thread!!:D

The Overlord Returns
10-21-2002, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by JON9000
Watch The Insider with Russell Crowe as the ex Tobacco exec! It will keep you from wanting to take a puff! Really!

you know whats a really odd site........myself and my roomates watching the film on dvd......smoking consistently throughout the run of the film... ;)