View Full Version : Always two there are...

12-14-2002, 12:32 AM
no more, no less...

That brings me to this question. In ROTJ, after Anakin/Vader throws Emperor Palpy down the shaft, he dies as well. At this point, does the balance shift back to the light side of the Force? Also, are we to assume that new 2 new Sith emerge after Vader and Palpy die?

12-14-2002, 01:45 PM
I think that IF there is one, there is a second one, but there doesn't necessarily have to be any sith, so there don't have to be 2 new sith after the death of vader and palpy

12-14-2002, 11:47 PM
This is a question I pondered some time ago with a thread dealing with Palpatine's entire plan. It began pre-TPM with a vague idea of what led him to want to "take over the universe" in the first place.

Of course, there is no onscreen reasoning given, but only two possibilities exist:

1.) That Palpatine was recruited by a Sith who had kept the order alive through the generations (one of a line of Sith, of course)

2.) or, the Sith order was dead, and someway, somehow, Palpatine "re-discovered" it and brought it back to life either as a kind of reverence to it or just to use it as a tool to carry out his nefarious plan.

But the answer to that question would help answer yours. Maybe it's impossible for the Sith to really die out. Just imagine, perhaps, that when one dies, somehow, in that "act," another is inadvertently created. Stretching our rationalization muscles a bit, you could say that when Maul died at Obi Wan's hand, the wheels were set in motion for Dooku to take his place (whether Dooku knew it or not).

Vader, of course, "died" when Anakin was "reborn." So, more interestingly, then when Palpatine died, who took his place? What events did Vader's and Palpatine's destruction set into motion that would create a new disciple of the Sith who would then seduce his own follower to fill out the requirement of two?

12-18-2002, 05:15 PM
This isn't a statement in the galaxy will somehow spawn new Sith when they're destroyed. That's never what Yoda was saying, otherwise there's no sense in what Ki-Adi said in that they 'have' been exinct.

The statement is one more resembling one of the Siths' "policy" so to speak, or their motivations.

The Sith are compelled to have no more than 2 since they are creatures of conspiracy they naturally would team up to destroy the weakest third. Also, being creatures of power, are also compelled to have a lesser partner, to do dirty work and to recieve admiration from. This keeps the natural balance at 2.

That's all it means.

It's not like Yoda ever said, even indirectly, that the Sith cannot be destroyed under this pretext... because they were destroyed.