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Beast
01-08-2003, 10:53 AM
Hasbro finally updated today, with new pictures. They showed the much anticipated Han: Hoth Gear and Chewbacca: Mynock Hunt. There is a small complaint thread in Dear Hasbro about Han's stance. But we needed an actual discussion thread for these figures. So I figured I would start one. Here's the news and the pictures. :)
BRAND NEW CLASSIC FIGURES COMING SOON!
Jan 08, 2003
New classic characters in 3 3/4" scale will be available in the next few months including Han Solo in Hoth gear from The Empire Strikes Back. Han comes with Luke Skywalker's lightsaber and features a lightsaber slicing action to recreate the scene where he sliced open the tauntaun to save Luke from the freezing cold.
Also available is Chewbacca with a breathing mask, bowcaster and mynock to recreate the scene where Chewie was blasting myocks while the Millennium Falcon was parked inside a "cave" that turned out to be the belly of a massive creature.
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Beast
01-08-2003, 10:55 AM
The Han is pretty nice in my opinion, regardless of the leg stance. With that stance he can fit with either the Tauntaun Scene where he slits open the belly of the beast to keep Luke warm. Or with the scene where he watches the Imperial Probot from the hill. He does have saber swinging action, which will probably upset alot of people though. The biggest problem is the coat. It's the incorrect blue color, like the Vintage one. The coat is Dark Brown with various colored washes on it. Maybe Hasbro will do a running change at the 50% mark to please fans. Nice to see the face mask he wears in one scene included. :)
The Chewbacca is really nice. Well articulated, though it's to bad that Hasbro dumped the ball jointed shoulders. I like the joints in the legs around the knee area though. And it appears that the missle firing Bowcaster can be made to look normal for display purposes, by putting the front on it that is laying at Chewie's feet. The Mynock appears to have been scaled up some from the Cinema Scene 3-pack. Looks to be a bit better detailed as well. If it's made from the rubbery plastic, that will be great. Looks like a pair of nice figures. Wish that they would have shown the Imperial SnowTrooper though. :)
MTFBWy and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Patient Zero
01-08-2003, 10:57 AM
Not bad at all, but what the hell are they pretending to strattle???
187-Maul
01-08-2003, 11:03 AM
I'm not very pleased with the figs, Han looks absolutely nothing line Ford (although you can cover up his face with the mask) and th pose is kinda weird, and the chewbacca finally has a bowcaster included (I mean a normal packed chewie) and they have to ruin it with the "shooting action"
now where are the pics for luke jedi !?!:crazed:
The Overlord Returns
01-08-2003, 11:15 AM
The han is troublesome, it's as if he's taking a dump standing up...
However, I like the chewie. Take the Gas Mask off, and you could use him in any manner of scenes. Is it just me, or does the bandolier look like a seperate piece from the body? Could they have finally done that piece right?
Beast
01-08-2003, 11:20 AM
187-Maul, remember these are the prototypes. We've seen prototypes that looked bad, and the final version turns out pretty good. I'm not overly concerned with the face sculpt. Someone on another form blew up the pics, and think that he does have knee joints. Which will improve the figure greatly if you can repose the legs a bit. :)
Only problem I have is the coat color. But maybe Hasbro will change it before the figure comes out. Or remembering all the crap they got over the POTF2 coat color, they will do a running change to please the "Blue" and the "Brown" folks. If not, I'll grab some paint and just fix him myself. No biggie. :)
Like I said above, the thing at Chewie's feet appears to be the barrel of his Bowcaster. Which means when you pose the figure for display, you can remove the missle and stick in the barrel. Sort of like what they did for Boba's and Jango's missle firing backpack so that it could be accurate for display. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Darth Trymybestus
01-08-2003, 11:31 AM
I think these are really great figures! If you compare that Han Solo Hoth Gear to the POTF 2 one, there is no contest, this is really cool and I love the accessories that it comes with.:)
I quite love the pose of Han Solo, it even has a working holster too, I will have to pick this figure up!
The chewbacca is nice too, it looks like it has a lot of articulation as well, the Han has great articulation too.
I wonder if we'll get a resculpt of Luke Skywalker Hoth Gear? The POTF 2 one is really cool but I know they could really improve on it, wow 2003 is probably gonna be the best year EVER for Star Wars figures... well maybe tied with last year :D
Vortex
01-08-2003, 11:35 AM
Still think they should have left out the gimick lightsaber slashing move.
1st it was the vintage kung fu grip...now its episode II judo chop...
everyone sing - everyone was kung fu fighting....
Hasbro should make a bracket tourney where it's gimick effect vs. gimick effect. Round 1: Super punch Endor Solo vs. Can kicking Ani.
Beast
01-08-2003, 11:37 AM
Darth T, there is a Wampa Attack Screen Scene scheduled for later this year. Likely that would include a new Luke: Hoth Gear as well as a new Wampa. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Darth Trymybestus
01-08-2003, 11:39 AM
Check this comparison photo... the new one totally rocks! :D
Darth Trymybestus
01-08-2003, 11:44 AM
Ahhh I can't wait to see this wampa screen scene.. I hope the Luke Skywalker isn't totally pre posed though, I hope it'd be a normal figure kinda like the new Han Hoth gear :)
JEDIpartner
01-08-2003, 11:54 AM
The detail seems to be lacking and they look a little more cartoony than they have in the past several waves! I'm split on them. I was also a little dismayed that the colour of Han's coat was incorrect. Oh, well...
Darth Trymybestus
01-08-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by JEDIpartnr
The detail seems to be lacking and they look a little more cartoony than they have in the past several waves! I'm split on them. I was also a little dismayed that the colour of Han's coat was incorrect. Oh, well...
I think the new Anakin Skywalker looks a little cartoony, but I still think that figure is gonna be awesome :D
hango fett
01-08-2003, 12:10 PM
looks awsome! keep it up hasbro!
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Sentinel18725
01-08-2003, 12:29 PM
Wonderful Han. Looks much better than the last one. I agree with the stance and the face complaints though. But all the cool accessories....I'll be looking forward to this figure.
Jayspawn
01-08-2003, 12:39 PM
I think they look pretty good.
Han looks nice. I like the face mask you can fit onto his face. And he's pretty loaded with accessories. He might be able to fit on the Tauntaun.
Chewy looks ok. I'm not wild about the stance, but it may be workable. Without the mask he can be used as a regular Chewy- which is great.
Beast
01-08-2003, 12:44 PM
The stance is pretty nice on the Chewie, since we really don't have a running into battle Chewie. The last two were pretty relax-posed. But the reason I am posting, was that I was looking at the pictures again. The Chewie head appears to be a soft rubber on a post.
That way you can slip the gas mask on his head, and it will squeeze the head in the area where the strap is. So it looks like it's over real hair. That way they don't have to actually hurt the sculpt, by sculpting in the area for the strap to lay. Plus the mask can fit tight over his head. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
aceguide
01-08-2003, 01:03 PM
I like the look of both of these figures.
I am especially excited about the Han. Can never have enough and regardless of the stance and coat there is finally a good looking Hoth Han.
Looking forwardto seeing these at retail (should be 2005!!)
187-Maul
01-08-2003, 01:16 PM
the pose is not really the thing that bothers me with these figs, and I have to agree that han is a huge improvement on the POTF2 one, but I still don't see why they had to release yet another chewbacca in such short time, we already had 3 in 2002 (bespin, 25th, trash compactor) and we get another again, soon he'll be the next maul or jango;)
the han is very good for hoth IMO, I can't deny that, but I have abolutely no use for him, I don't like him that much to display him loose, and he doesn't fit in any of my dioramas, so I would've rather had some other fig (of course this was a much requested fig and a lot of people are glad that it's being made)
and of course his coat color is wrong as you guys mentioned...
karinations
01-08-2003, 01:59 PM
Now THAT's Han Solo in Hoth gear!
Not that crap Ralph Mcquarrie concept drawing figure of Hoth Han that Kenner made in POTF2 second wave oin 1997(6?)
That was a brown jacketed monstrosity with a buck rogers rifle and puzzled me since the day i laid eyes on it.
Why??
Is all i could say when i looked at it.
The 80's Kenner Hoth Han was one of the best realized figures of the line and is one of the classics that everyone had.
If you knew a kid that only had 10 SW figures,one was Hoth Han.
So when i saw the first POTF2 Han i was pretty dissapointed.
This new one looks incredible and in line with the other revamps.
6 years later but better than never.
-V-
http://www.karinations.com
http://www.citizenv.com
Jargo
01-08-2003, 02:04 PM
I think they both look terrible. nothing specific just the whole kit and kaboodle is awful looking. And yet more gimmicks stuffed in there. Like I'm at all surprised. Well that's eight out of the line up i'm not buying ever. Not good hasbro not good at all. last year I spent £2.000 on star wars products, that's nigh on $3.000 to you Americans. This year I foresee that i will make a quite considerable saving from not buying any more crap product. The stuff I did buy last year was better POTJ and the non gimmicked saga figures in multiples and so on. These 2003 figures are shaping up to be the worst ever produced by the looks of it. No hasbro can shove these where the sun don't shine. Don't care if these are the prototypes, they usually look better than the finished product anyway so I don't see these getting any better ever. Stinky crappy product they can keep.
SACK RANDY NOW!!!!!!
Banthaholic
01-08-2003, 02:04 PM
I really like chewie, Mynock hunt. It's a nice figure for those that couldn't find the hard-to-find Mynock Hunt 3-pack. And for those of us with it, it's nice to have more than one Mynock to 'attack' the Falcon.
I like how on Han Hoth they include a lightsaber and incorporate Han opening up the Taun Taun. While, yes, it's a another stupid action figure, but it also helps recreate a scene better.
sunshine
01-08-2003, 02:54 PM
Cool Can't Wait for these, I hope next they show the New Luke
Chiesa
01-08-2003, 03:30 PM
Impressive to say the least regarding the lastest figures in my humble opinion. I'm not too borthered by the wrong colour of Han. But I feel that he does look pretty neat with the Sabre and the Mask. Chewie looks really good too. But I aren't too happy with the poses that they come with.
jblodgett
01-08-2003, 03:49 PM
Will Han's left arm go down? Or do both hands move up at the same time for his "slashing" gimmick. Something about him just doesn't look right, IMO. He looks like another Luke X-wing pilot, where the head doesn't match the figure. Look at how big those hands are, and then how little his head is. I do like the little face mask thing, and I do like that his pistol actually fits in its holster.
I don't mind the color of his coat. I know the original POTF Han Hoth was the correct color for the actual prop- but it just LOOKED wrong, based upon the movie.
The best Han Hoth is STILL the vintage one. I don't know if Hasbro is ever going to be able to improve upon THAT figure.
Rogue II
01-08-2003, 04:23 PM
They are nice looking figures, but I don't like Han's pose. At least Chewbacca looks articulated so his pose is changeable.
Is Han supposed to have an action feature?
Just wanted to tip my cap toward JarJarBinks on acknowledging that the color is all wrong on Han's coat ;)
I like the running change idea as well, I'm just ticked that it made it this far into production and there are toy designers that are as ignorant on the issue as many of the collectors are
Hasbro'sBountyHunter
01-08-2003, 05:12 PM
I like 'em! Both will be worth being in my collection!:D
Beast
01-08-2003, 05:21 PM
I've been battling the "blue" people for sometime, so no need of the tip of the cap. I do like the figure, but I'll wait til I see it carded or in person. We all know how sometimes things change before when we get the final version. Like the upcoming Mace Windu cloak change. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Jedi_Master_Guyute
01-08-2003, 05:37 PM
Mesa like them very very much!!!
Hasbro is just waiting till the last second of anticipation to release pics of the Jedi Luke, aren't they?!??! Curse them!! Curse all the halflings!!! :D
Old Fossil
01-08-2003, 06:16 PM
I LIKES THE BLUE!!!
I'll be picking up both of these, if I ever see 'em at retail. Heck, I might even order them online. Best looking Hoth Han ever. I like the blue coat. I like the mask. I like the stance.
I'll buy the Chewie, mainly because I usually buy Chewies, since Chewie is one of my favorite characters, and you can't have enough Chewies, except for the first POTF2 Chewie, which wasn't a good Chewie, but Chewie's come a long way since then.:crazed:
Kidhuman
01-08-2003, 06:21 PM
I like them. I think Han with a sabre is cool. Chewie looks pretty sweet a swell. I will buy them. I for one can't wait to see the Boba Fett.
Battle Droid
01-08-2003, 06:32 PM
Why the action feature with Han if he's got no Taun Taun to cut open? (not everyone has the the old one Hasbro!)
They should give us a new TaunTaun with gooey guts, sorta like the Acklay's only gooeyer.
Mr. JabbaJohnL
01-08-2003, 06:49 PM
Me like!
It looks like Han's knees are bendable (look VERY closely at the pic). Very nice.
Jedi_Master_Guyute
01-08-2003, 06:52 PM
kidhuman- i wasn't sure if you meant you hadn't seen pics of the new fett or if you can't wait to see him on hte shelves. If you haven't seen his pic yet, check out this shot here:
http://starwars.hasbro.com/bountyhunter/repnews_content.cfm?showlg=189
That should work! cheers! :D
Turbowars
01-08-2003, 07:15 PM
Crap! Whats with Chewys gun! Is this the new Power Ranger line. What a joke. I feel like hasbro has two playschol lines. I was excited to see Han, and what do you know, his legs are bent and ready to cut open a taun taun that was made in the 80's. I know you said there is a hoth set coming. I hope the mask is on in the package, but I know it wont be. Way to go Hasbro. I guess you fired the guy that made Ephant Mon
Beast
01-08-2003, 07:20 PM
Turbowars, the thing at Chewbacca's feet attaches to the front of the rifle, so that it's movie accurate for display purposes. So the fact that it has a missle firing feature doesn't hurt the toy. It's just like Jango and Boba's missle firing backpack had a false missle top for people that display their figures. :p :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Kidhuman
01-08-2003, 07:25 PM
Jedi_Master_Guyute...I had not seen a picture of it, but it looks really cool. That is one I need 2 of. Now I can't wait to see it on shelves.
Jerjerrod
01-08-2003, 09:55 PM
At first glance, I was disappointed. Han's stance is unnecessary, and his jacket looks too big. Chewie looks like Choco-Santa with the permed beard. They look completely different than the image I have in my mind. Bespin Chewie was waaaaay better.
They only thing I like about Han is his mask. That's pretty cool.
Wolfwood319
01-08-2003, 10:20 PM
Blah!
They could've had a nice Han, but gave him a crappy gimmick, probably in league with Pilot Obi-Wan, and that figure was awful. Another Chewy, whoop-dee-do. There are 3 Chewbacca figures out now that are perfect. That's all we need. You want to have one with a mask on, throw it an accessory set later on down the line.
Pass...
LTBasker
01-08-2003, 10:28 PM
Han - Crappy. Nice figure but the extreme pose is ridiculous, all he did was lay down a bit behind a snow bank and hold his blaster out to get the Probe Droid. The mask is a plus, and it appears his parka is removeable. Appears he'll have a gimmick that double for slashing and gun-drawing action - crap.
Chewie - Not a bad figure, a bit extreme though considering he just kinda walked around and stood there till he ran off screen with a mynock. The bowcaster is terrible, even with the two little scopes attached it'll have that huge gaping hole in it. Looks like I'll have to track down a spare Bowcaster. The mynock is a nice plus though.
I fear for the Snowtrooper now....
Jedi_Master_Guyute
01-08-2003, 11:06 PM
I swear to God, why are people complaining about the gimmicks?!?!?!?? Hasbro makes toys for kids to play with, not the collectors!!!!! A child is more than likely to buy a figure if it has some nifty gimmick with it. The quicker more people learn that, the better off we'll be.
Complain complain complain!!! People don't like it when SW figures were gone for so many years and then they complain when they're back!!! Some people just don't make any sense to me. Just my rant. :D
Beast
01-08-2003, 11:17 PM
Eh, they have a right to complain. I don't mind them at all, I think it adds a bit of fun to the figures. And I'm 26 years old for cripes sake, 27 in March. I guess I'm just one of those people that never grew up. As long as the features work well, and they don't seriously hurt articulation...then cool. :cool: :D
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
mylow thehutt
01-09-2003, 05:51 AM
never thought I'd see han with lightsaber sclicing action.:crazed:
Darkross
01-09-2003, 06:20 AM
I love these figures...Han looks soooooo awesome! He even comes with a removable mask...too cool! Now all I need to get is another Tauntaun to display him with!
JarJarBinks...Check this out at Rebelscum and see why I am tipping my cap to you ;)
http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=004804
I actually like the figure really well, I do not like the coat color though. It looks like he should able to sit on a Tauntaun which is neat.
Anyone think the hood can be removed?
Rogue II
01-09-2003, 08:50 AM
The hood could be removeable, but I doubt it. It looks like there the hood has space in it so it can hold the mask.
I hope his legs are bendable. From his stance he looks like disco lobot. Statue poses are not cool.
LTBasker
01-09-2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Rogue II
The hood could be removeable, but I doubt it. It looks like there the hood has space in it so it can hold the mask.
I dunno, it doesn't appear to be molded to the neck, it seems like a slide-on thing like BoShek's helmet.
After I've had a chance to cool off from the first appearance of the pics, the figs don't seem as bad as they did. Chewie's bowcaster is still pretty bad, a blast effect would've been highly efficent compared to the missile as it will leave a gaping hole, but the overall figure it's reasonable.
Han could use a less extreme pose, but the rest of the figure is ok, well except for the slashing action. I think though the slashing may be like Dooku's and you squeeze his legs, hence the wide pose. He could still be articulated in the knees and such, but he wouldn't move freely at the waist nor at all for the full legs.
I just hope the Snowtrooper makes it out alive...
Rogue II
01-09-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by LTBasker
I dunno, it doesn't appear to be molded to the neck, it seems like a slide-on thing like BoShek's helmet.
Good point. I was thinking could have been for neck articulation.
In ESB, wasn't Han on his knees when he sliced open the Tauntaun? Why Lightsaber action? Why any action?
Luckily, Chewbacca is easy to fix since his action feature is his bowcaster.
Prince Xizor
01-09-2003, 01:11 PM
I am split on the figures.
I really like the Chewie figure. I like the stance, sculpt, and I like how the bowcaster comes with a plug-in for display purposes. The mask looks really cool on him, and the mynock is a great counterpart.
However, I do not like the Han figure. First off, I don't think it looks a thing like Harrison Ford, it looks like a generic "Mr. Guy". But I guess that is what the mask is for. That leg stance is disgusting. No where do I remember him looking like that. That blaster looks stupid in those man-beast sized hands. And of course, the even managed to find a way to stick Han with a crappo slashing lightsaber gimmick. Someone at Hasbro must have a weird fetish for crappy gimmicks.
Darth Trymybestus
01-09-2003, 01:43 PM
They have almost the same outfit on, I really like this Han Solo Hoth figure, I think it is the definitive Han Solo Hoth Gear figure.
Hasbro is really making fantastic figures, I mean we've already have the definitive Luke Skywalker Bespin Gear and hopefully soon... the definitive Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight :D
Jargo
01-09-2003, 03:21 PM
Definitive is hardly a word that I would hurry to apply to the Bespin 'carbunkle ailment dipped in poop treatment' Luke Skywalker. A truly hideous figure by any standards. This Han Solo is clumsy and ugly, looks nothing like the actor and is riddled with play impeding nonsense. Why even bother? Chewbacca is hampered by sloppy detailing at his joints his head is sculpted in such a way that he will look ridiculous without his mask, his gun has been massacred. He looks dumb and IMO nothing like Chewbacca as I recall him from the movies. It's only the bandolier and satchel that mark him out as actually being Chewbacca but they aren't even removable so that again reduces the usefulness of the figure to just one more lame rehash attempt at sponging money from the masses of unenlightened. The philistines if you will.
JediDBM
01-09-2003, 03:39 PM
Emporer Jargo, everybody is entitled to thier opinion, and I defineatly respect yours, but arent you being a little harsh with your observation of these figures? I haven't seen them yet, so for all I know your observation is right on, but it sounds like some of the people here like these figures. Please dont think I am criticizng you, I do respect yours and everyone else's opinion as well.
Beast
01-09-2003, 03:44 PM
Jargo, Chewie's head appears to be made of a soft rubber material and on a post. That way they don't have to hinder the sculpt to leave the band where the mask strap lays. It fits over the head tight, and squeezes it where the strap lays. Sort of like how it would press down on real hair. As for the paintjob, it's a prototype. We've seen the figures look better in person most of the time, then in early pictures. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Rogue II
01-09-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
As for the paintjob, it's a prototype. We've seen the figures look better in person most of the time, then in early pictures. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
I hope you're right JarJar, but didn't we say something similar about the Trash Compactor Luke, and they didn't change his head much?
Jargo
01-09-2003, 04:09 PM
Better? The prototype paint jobs are the best they ever get. Production paint jobs are sloppy at best. Look at the recent carded images of Obi-yawn and Count Poodoo. Both have paint missing and splashed all over in the wrong places. Figures are showing up with dribbles and paint spots all over them. Terrible workmanship for the most part. The prototype paint jobs are usually neat tidy and accurately applied which is why they use the paint masters for the promo pics not the actual product, because the actual product looks pants.
Chewies haed made of squishy stuff? You think so? Can't tell from the pictures but to me that head looks like the same material as everything else on the figure. If they use squishy stuff then Chewies head will be transluscent and that dip in his fur for the head band on the mask is too deep to be able to spring back to a normal shape. That's a molded in trench in Chewies head that will make him look like a Woodstock hippie. Not something i care for in a Chewbacca action figure.
Yeah my opinions are loud and bold. Take them or leave them it's up to you. I'm decided already on these. Don't like one bit and won't be buying them. I also won't be buying Darth Tyranus, Anakin, Obi-Yawn or Mace Manatu. Won't be buying R2D2 flying phallus either. I also won't be buying the deluxe sets or the unleashed or the action fleet or the clone wars mini wallet fleece line. What i might consider buying is good non giimmicked figures, figures that have character already or look stunning. Screen scenes depending on how they look in person. New vehicles.
My oulay on star wars this year will certainly not equal the $3000 I spent in 2002. That is one thing I can say with some asertion right now. Hasbro are stooping to new lows and I aint gonna buy that crappness.
Vortex
01-09-2003, 04:24 PM
I have to side with Jargo on that the notion that chewie's head isn't made of "squishy" rubber. I too believe it to be indented and the mask has an elastic band that will move...not the head.
Its easier to tweek out the small details (elastic strap) vs the large details (head). A squish head is an interesting idea, but without seeing it in person or having hasbro list it in the description, I don't buy it.
It would be a negative aspect anyways. Paint doesn't stay on surfaces that are constantly in motion or move easily. If you constantly squeeze his face in, or side of his head, the paint for his eyes, nose and mouth may or will start to chip and crack.
Interesting idea, but I don't think a good one.
evenflow
01-09-2003, 04:31 PM
As much as they may not be needed, the Han looks awesome.
Okay, I know I am probably opening Pandora's Box here, but I have to say I am pleased with Han's coat color. I asked about this way earlier in another thread that debated this, but now I have looked at my VHS and DVD copies of Empire, and I have to think blue is, at least, mostly correct. I acknowledge that possibly the actual prop is brown, but what matters is how it looks on the film, and in nearly every case, it is blue. Looking at some of the close-up still pics on this site and others, I seen where some tinges of it may look brown, but usually it just looks either blue or darker blue. Sorry, but what it looks like on the film is what I have to take as the real deal, whether or not filters were alledgedly used to make it appear that way, that's the way it does appear. Anyways, my two cents.
jjreason
01-09-2003, 09:40 PM
Han looks like he's about 17 years old, and his gloves and hood look way to brand newy white. More grunge needs to be added to the final version - oh and the ability to close his legs into a more neutral stance would improve him a great deal. I could give a crap whether they make the coat blue or brown as both are "correct" from a certain point of view. Im happy his hood is up.
TheDarthVader
01-10-2003, 10:50 AM
Are you sure that they are coming out with a Wampa? I was about to trade to get the Luke with Wampa but if they are coming out with a new one, I will just get the newer one. (Probably improved too). Let me know please....
Beast
01-10-2003, 12:02 PM
Well, there is a screen scene on the lists for next year called "Wampa Attack". That pretty much assumes we'll probably get a new Wampa and a new Luke: Hoth in the set. Of course these are retailer lists, and things can change. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Jargo
01-10-2003, 12:26 PM
Wampa attack could simply mean a dead wampa with a bruised and battered Luke that the new han will work with. It doesn't necessarily imply a new Wampa at all. However, if the screen scenes are coming in pairs that would be a fair assumption to make but not all the screen scenes are listed in pairs. In fact so far only the trash compactor has been listed as a pair. So you can't just take it at face value and literally. See beyond that to the other possibilities and combinations. In fact a dead Tauntaun with split open belly would be more feasible because otherwise there's absolutely no reason for Han to have a saber slashing ac tion.
Beast
01-10-2003, 12:37 PM
Jargo, they don't have to come in pairs. They could easily fit a Luke: Hoth and a Wampa in one set. I think the actual boxes for the regular line will be a bit larger then the Trash Compactor sets that come in two parts. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
Jargo
01-10-2003, 12:45 PM
And your point being? I know they could get a Wampa into the box I was saying stop assuming that it will contain a Wampa just because the name is used. It'd be like if they made a screen scene called Bespin battle. Most people would assume that it meant Luke and Vader when it could quite feasibly contain Leia Lando and a couple of stormtroopers at the Falcon landing pad. And the same of the Lars Homestead screen scene, people are assuming that it's an AOTC set when it could just as easily be an ANH set. I'm not saying either way what i think it is I'm just saying that you can't assume because the set listing has a certain character name in it that it'll contain the same character. Yes most likely it will but there's no point stating facts until there's some more info on the set.
Lman316
01-10-2003, 01:25 PM
I'd like to see a new Wampa, myself. So, I'm hoping that that rumored "Screen Scene" does have one.
About the figures....meh. I've seen better and I've seen worse.
I will wait to see them in the store, in my hands before I make any final decisions - but that's what I always do, anyway now.
However...I don't really know if I need another Chewie or Han for that matter. I'm not much on making Hoth "scenes."
End...:D
jjreason
01-10-2003, 04:07 PM
Im dreaming now of a paired set - Hoth Luke in one, with the Wampa and the second set including the dead Tauntaun with the shelter build by Han. Oh my God that would literally be the best thing ever. Please please please please please please.....
No? Okay. Sorry for asking.
Jargo
01-10-2003, 07:07 PM
dead Tauntaun with opening belly and squishy guts that plop out and unconscious Luke with tent close by would be about the best screen scene. Wampa ice lair with Wampa and Tauntaun bones would be a nice second set. Some backdrop piece to hang Luke upside down on. Somehow that sounds too good for hasbro to do. They'd probably make Luke with his eyes open and wimp out of bloodying him up again. I don't know what the fuss about blood is everybody bleeds if cut, there's worse things on the evening news every day so a little gore is nothing. hell if parents get worked up about it just say Luke is a messy eater and has ketchup on his face. :rolleyes:
Rogue II
01-10-2003, 09:50 PM
You're right. I don't see what is so bad about blood. The Jurassic Park toy line had "dino damage" where you could actually rip off a chunk of their flesh and expose muscle and bone. It isn't much worse that lopping off a hand, arm, head or cutting a Geonosian in half.
TIE Pilot
01-10-2003, 10:39 PM
I was wondering what the Han figure would look like with the face mask he comes with attached to his face.
So with a little help from PhotoShop.. I did this. He looks much cooler with the mask on.. what do you think?
TheDarthVader
01-10-2003, 11:10 PM
nice pic... :) He does look better with the mask ON !!!!!!!!!!
jjreason
01-11-2003, 01:51 AM
Kind of like Snake Eyes......I still think all the white parts are way too white. In the film that stuff is all gray, in contrast to the snow. Again, I hope the finals are changed a little bit. I was desparate to see the new Hoth Han and now my next biggies are the Snowtrooper and the Jedi Luke.
I think the neatest set with the name "Wampa Attack" would be a segment of the ice cave with footholds to hang Luke from.
The Trash sets allow for the figures to be knee deep in the playset, why not do the same with an upside down Luke?
Personally, I don't have any interest in a new Wampa figure. The POTF version was lame, but the vintage one delights me to this day. I did however like the Luke from that POTF beast set. The moveable scarf was GREAT, and I took full advantage of it!
I display most of my stuff on white bookshelves which show off the toys really well . . . and I took two big globs of poster putty with which to hang Luke upside down with arms outstretched and scarf hanging freely.
Maybe my thoughts are influenced by the vintage micro-toys; the Ice Cave set was always my favorite and I've wanted a 3 3/4" version ever since. I hope this is my chance to get it!
Now I'm REALLY excited, thinking of the possibilities. I like the idea of a single figure (Luke) so they can put more effort and material into the playset. I want the ceiling, a backdrop (sculpted plastic, not cardboard) and the cavern floor. The floor should also have a little divot for Luke's lightsaber to fall into.
Jargo
01-11-2003, 05:18 PM
I'm dreaming of a white wampa..... no actually i was just thinking to myself how cool it would be if the beasts got the same articulation figures did, knees and elbows and wrists (where applicable) and twisting waists. Imagine a Tauntaun that was super articulated and could be posed realisticly in a dying motion or a running pose or a fighting pose ninja stylee! :crazed: Or if the Wampa could really go for the kill in a flying somersalt attack and be all lithe and supple and panther like. Or if the Dewback had had some articulation you could have pitted it against the Acklay or the rancor and imagine how cool the rancor would have been with knees and elbows and a waist and some head movement and a snapping jaw to allow him to really dance and belt out an Iron maiden medley... Or if the Eopie had been able to flop down in a sulk and had bending knees and you could have had a figure loading it up - sorry, forgot how few people actually got an Eopie. :cry: but articulated beasties would get me juiced up again, An articulated hairy bantha, A rock and roll ronto with banding neck and turning head and knees that allowed it to stoop down and graze. A fambaa that could actually move something and a Kaadu that could be posed doing something other than the goose step. Long necked creatures need the ability to bend their necks and turn their heads, creatures need to have the abilkity to bend their legs to sit down to stand up to walk. Hasbro has proved that they can make toys with bendy apendages so why not apply it further? This is all a little off track but Wampa talk got me sparked off. I'd love to get a new Wampa as i just bought the POTF one and I'm bitterly disappointed in it. It cost an arm and a leg and it's *******! No better quality than cheap knock off sold in flea markets. Seriously bad toy that is. So I'm all for a new Wampa as long as it isn't a crappy statue and it has decent articulation. And a lump of gory red dead tauntaun meat to munch on and blood on it's fur. Real fur might be nice too but that would depend on the size of the Wampa. too small and it would look stupid. But a big hairy Wampa might be cool. :cool:
Turbowars
01-11-2003, 11:33 PM
The mask makes the figure look 100 times better. I hope they package him with it on. These 2 figues are starting to grow on me, but that firing gun thing Chewy has still bothers me. Even if that thing on the ground covers something, the gun is still to big.
Teeska Mon Eebon
01-13-2003, 10:10 PM
They do look a bit cartoony... Foreshadowing of the Clone wars line?
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