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SirSteve
01-30-2003, 05:13 PM
Check the home page news for the picture!

Banthaholic
01-30-2003, 05:18 PM
Thanks SirSteve!!!
These look great, we all should be set on Sandtroopers for awhile now!

Beast
01-30-2003, 05:34 PM
Looks great, Sir Steve. Is the Fan Club actually going to have these? I thought they shifted them to 3rd party retailers, because of the Fan Club re-structuring. BTW, tell your source that he has the backpacks on upside down. ;) :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Rogue II
01-30-2003, 06:00 PM
That's what I thought. This is from Entertainmentearth.com:


Formerly a Star Wars Fan Club Exclusive! The Sandtrooper Troop Builder set includes four individually bagged (not carded) 3 3/4 inch Sandtroopers from the classic Star Wars trilogy. These ship in a white box. Figures are similar to the previously released Power of the Jedi versions.

It really doesn't matter to me who has it.

SirSteve
01-30-2003, 07:48 PM
hmm.... let me look into it...

Mr. JabbaJohnL
01-30-2003, 07:54 PM
Very nice. No more sandtroopers for me after this pack! Hopefully there will be an accessory pack with a few bigger blasters (like the '96 one). I wonder, will they come with those stands?

187-Maul
01-31-2003, 05:11 AM
hopefully they will inlcude more weapons like Mr. JabbaJohnL said, the POTF2 rifle looks great on the POTJ sandtroopers, maybe they could do 50/50, give two figs the rifle and 3 figs the blaster? either way I need on of these sets:)

bobafrett
01-31-2003, 08:12 AM
I preordered mine sometime ago from Entertainment Earth. If they are like the Stormtrooper troop building sets, then you won't get any action figure stands. I bought one box of the Sandtroopers, and 5 boxes of the Stormtroopers.

Jayspawn
01-31-2003, 09:11 AM
I think the Sandtroopers set looks great! I may only get 1 set because I have enough of the POTJ and POTF Sandtroopers for my Tatooine infantry.

mtriv73
01-31-2003, 12:05 PM
I pre-ordered one from EE. It will be nice to have all the different pauldrons on a more realisticly sculpted figure. I ordered the rebel fleet troopers while I was at it. Hopefully they'll have the head variants with the rebels.

dark jedi 8
01-31-2003, 09:04 PM
I'm glad there the Potj ones and not the ones released in 1996.:happy:

Lewis
02-01-2003, 04:12 AM
I really like the troop builder sets and im looking forward to this one a lot...:p

Hasbro'sBountyHunter
02-01-2003, 09:25 AM
I was never able to get the POJ one when it came out, so I think I'll get this pack.

Jargo
02-01-2003, 05:01 PM
Well, on the one hand i think it's great that there's going to be a set of this cool figure. It's also great that they appear to be without the mucky paint application. My downside comment is that when the POTJ one showed up it was during the great UK figure drought so it was really hard to get hold of in any number. I finally succumbed to onlne shopping in order to get some from Toy Palace in germany but even so just a small number. This set being fanclub oriented, which means specialist retailers, is a bit of a disappointment in that it'll again be hard to get hold of and also expensive.
So in principle I'm all for it, but disappointed that it's a limited run. I already started customising a couple of my POTJ ones to get rid of the mucky paint and to change the pauldron colors. There are more black pauldrons in the movie than the other colors. but I'll attempt to buy this set regardless of that. Clean white plastic looks better than repainted plastic.

One other thing, it might have been cool if they'd included the patrol droid with this set for those who never got the diorama with it in or for those like me who make their own dioramas and would quite like more than one of those cool little droids. It attaches to the POTJ sandtroopers backpack really neatly.

sith_killer_99
02-01-2003, 07:07 PM
Hey, I never tried to attatch my POTF2 diorama Sandtrooper droid to the POTJ Sandtrooper.

As for finding these is large numbers, well, they weren't really very plentiful here in the States either. I ended up trading a TIE Interceptor for a bunch of POTJ Sandtroopers.

I am really stoked about this set! I am hoping to get 5-6 sets!
:D

I should be able to afford them with all the money I have saved this year!

mista_carrot
02-01-2003, 08:07 PM
I can't wait to get my hands on these. I'm also glad they're giving us the more accurate POTJ imperial blasters instead of the out of scale POTF2 versions that came with the Stormtrooper 4-pack.

On a related note, here's a pic I made with the POTJ sandtrooper and the POTF2 dewback w/sandtrooper.

187-Maul
02-03-2003, 07:10 AM
very nice mista_carrot, looks just like in the movie:)

JediTricks
02-03-2003, 06:32 PM
This is the first troop-building set I'll end up getting. I missed out on the Stormtrooper builder unfortunately, but I'll go into the valley over to EE in person (and save myself the $hipping charge :greedy: ) to get these.


Jargo's right, a FACE droid would have been a nice inclusion.


Nice pic Carrot, I especially like the lighting, that's the most impressive lighting work I've seen on a picture of this sort.

Rogue II
02-03-2003, 06:49 PM
I just looked at entertainment earth's website. They changed the date from Feb 2003 to March 2003. I wonder why the delay.

dark jedi 8
02-03-2003, 07:07 PM
That's a very cool pic mista_carrot, never seen anything like that before.:)

mista_carrot
02-04-2003, 01:32 AM
Glad you guys like the pic! I plan on doing more Sandtrooper scenes once the 4-pack comes out. I've got more pics of other scenes if anyone's interested. In fact, I've posted a few of them here in the past, but just go to my site to see them all :)

Anyway, to get somewhat on topic, I was thinking of replacing the arms of a sandtrooper with the arms from a commtech stormtrooper. Is this possible with the stormtrooper's ball-jointed shoulders? I'm not much of a customizer, so if anyone's done a similar swap please speak up! I don't want to ruin a commtech stormtrooper for nothin!

P.S. JediTricks, I'm glad you noticed the lighting in the pic; I've been paying a LOT more attention to lighting with my recent pics, especially reflected light since it is easy to overlook.

Jargo
02-04-2003, 06:14 AM
I bought the 'build your own' commtech stormtroopers that were available from Hong Kong. They have fairly slim lugs on the attaching pegs. I haven't customised a sandtrooper but it's possible they might have thicker lugs and the commtech arms would be loose in the sockets of the sandtrooper. But i suppose it's possible. I've thought the same thing about the arms, Love the figure but the pose is a little off. It might be easier to swap the lower arms maybe. I had to attach the lower arms to the upper arms to build my troopers and they just use a simple peg but you need to really soften those suckers up to get them attched. It's a snug fit and the plastic is really hard. Force it and it'll definately tear or snap. I just boiled some water and dunked the bits for thirty seconds, dried them and popped them on. :)

187-Maul
02-04-2003, 09:32 AM
I got the 10-pack stromtrooper set too and I too don't know if it's possible to change the arms since the pegs are different then on other figs, at least I think so
BTW, Jargo, are the arms on your stormtroopers really tight? cause I can't the body completely tight and the arms are a bit loose on most of them, and did you glue the bodies shut?
oh, and did your set also come with 11 right legs and 9 right legs? cause mine and my brothers came with that...

Jargo
02-04-2003, 01:34 PM
The only hiccup as far as body parts goes is that all the upper arms were the same. So i got twenty upper left arms, but you can hardly notice unless you stand the BYO ones next to the carded stormie. I had a hell of a job getting the bodies to glue together and had to remove the inner connecting pegs. Then i had to use some miniature C clamps to hold the bodies together while i glued them but even then some of them didn't glue down really tight. Same with the groin pieces. God knows what kind of machine they use to do these figures with. And how on earth do they get the knee pegs through? I had to give up and glue the legs at the knee and just cut the pegs i half and glue those in as a finishing touch. I have a few loose arms but most are pretty tight because i got more leverage on the upper torso than the waist. It's great to have built some myself though. The sense of achievement getting the damn things to stay together is massive.

I looked at some reference pictures from all the movies and discovered that not all stormtroopers wear the blaster holster so i cut them off my BYO ones to mark them out as being different so i know to be a little more careful with them when packing or moving them. Superglue is great but it's no sonic weld.

I'm wishing I'd got some of the biker scouts too now. If hasbro wanted a gimmick they would do well to do something like this. Sell a ton of figures cheaper because they're not built. They could add in some arm and leg variants and make life interesting. Kit form army builder figures. As long as they made them easier to fit together it'd be sweet. Just a big bag of body parts and away you go.... :D

JangoFart
02-06-2003, 03:18 PM
Is this set going to be boxed or come in bags like the others? I'd LOVE to see these in a cool open-faced box all action-posed and such.

J

Rogue II
02-06-2003, 03:35 PM
It will probably come in the white box like all of the other army builder sets.

Jargo
02-08-2003, 04:48 PM
What are EE charging for these? Just as a rough estimate so I can guage what they'll go for over here. I fancy getting several sets myself.

Rogue II
02-08-2003, 04:51 PM
They are charging $17.99. Here is the link:
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS26821

They also have the Rebel Fleet Tropers for pre-order and are due out in May.
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS26816

Jargo
02-08-2003, 06:25 PM
Seems reasonable to me. Hopefully they'll show up here at roughly the same time. :) Now if they'd just get round to doing that jawa army builder set....... :crazed:

Turbowars
02-09-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by mista_carrot



On a related note, here's a pic I made with the POTJ sandtrooper and the POTF2 dewback w/sandtrooper. WOW this photo is great! You need to print up some Panoramic posters and sell them to us or me. I'd love to have this, I missed to real one from the fan club.

Lewis
02-10-2003, 01:45 AM
That photo has been done excellent, keep putting more on please!! :p

mista_carrot
02-10-2003, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by turbowars
WOW this photo is great! You need to print up some Panoramic posters and sell them to us or me. I'd love to have this, I missed to real one from the fan club.

Hehe, I've actually thought about making some prints and selling them, but I'm worried there might be some legal issues and whatnot. I have a larger version of the image on my website; just go HERE (http://starwars.carrotnetwork.com/photos.html). The original photo I was working from wasn't that great so the image won't look too good if it's printed at a large size. Now if Lucas could get around to making the OT DVD's then I'd be able to make more images at a decent resolution. As it is, I'm left to scouring various resources looking for high quality images to work with.

187-Maul
02-10-2003, 11:42 AM
if you worry about licensing, why don't you try to get in contact with LFL or the starwars.hasbro site, they use pics like that (but not as good done as yours) on their homepage, maybe you can make pics for them and maybe even make money off of it? just a suggestion of course:)

stillakid
02-10-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by mista_carrot
Hehe, I've actually thought about making some prints and selling them, but I'm worried there might be some legal issues and whatnot. I have a larger version of the image on my website; just go HERE (http://starwars.carrotnetwork.com/photos.html). The original photo I was working from wasn't that great so the image won't look too good if it's printed at a large size. Now if Lucas could get around to making the OT DVD's then I'd be able to make more images at a decent resolution. As it is, I'm left to scouring various resources looking for high quality images to work with.

I bought those bootleg DVD's and have managed to pull some pretty nice stills. Let me know what you need and I'll try to capture a few for you. Then I can send the high res files, like the two on this thread: http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=220488#post220488

Very impressive work at your site. Thanks for sharing those. But it looks like you need blank backgrounds more than actual movie stills?

mista_carrot
02-10-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by stillakid
I bought those bootleg DVD's and have managed to pull some pretty nice stills. Let me know what you need and I'll try to capture a few for you. Then I can send the high res files, like the two on this thread: http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=220488#post220488

If you could get me a screen cap of Ben vs. Vader in front of the millenium falcon that would be great! I've been searching high and low for that classic image and the closest I've found is a black and white lobby card photo. I'm basically looking for the image found on the back of the 25th anniversary ben vs. vader two-pack. If you can get such a screen cap, send it to gyoshimura@attbi.com. Thanks!!!



Very impressive work at your site. Thanks for sharing those. But it looks like you need blank backgrounds more than actual movie stills?

Actually I try to use actual frames from the movie whenever possible and just erase the actors and place the figures over them. I've been planning on doing a "making of" to kind of show the process, but I just haven't been able to find the time to sit down and do it.

Lewis
02-11-2003, 03:33 AM
EJ where did you get the Stormtrooper 10 pack? :p

Jargo
02-11-2003, 05:14 AM
Toy Palace (http://www.toy-palace.com/) had them in a while back. If I remember right they cost about fourty quid. Which was before the stormtrooper army builder set arrived so the commtech stormie was still a high price and it worked out massively cheaper to buy ten and build them myself since I only wanted them for sentry duties.

Does anyone have the rankings of the sandtroopers, and by that I mean what the colored shoulder paldrons mean. Which one is sergeant and which is corporal etc. I never did get that really.

Beast
02-18-2003, 02:24 PM
Entertainment Earth now has the SandTrooper 4-pack in stock for $17.99. :)

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?p=1&number=HS26821

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

sith_killer_99
02-18-2003, 05:29 PM
Aaargh SOLD OUT!

JangoFart
02-18-2003, 05:59 PM
Well, since it's the white boxed crap, I won't be buying it. They would, however, make a SWEET display if they were boxed in a Cinema Scene-type of box with a Dewback (either on a background insert or an actual creature) in the background.

I'm $.02 poorer now....

J

Turbowars
02-18-2003, 06:12 PM
Yeah well, no one said Hasbro had an brains when it comes to marketing. If they were packaged in a Cinema box, they would fly of the racks. What if it had that one trooper holding the droid part, saying "looks Sir, droids"

Beast
02-18-2003, 06:19 PM
Umm, did the fact that these are army buider packs escape you guys? Why would people that just want them for to open and use for their displays, want to pay more for them to come in a fancy box. That's not what Hasbro designed these sets for. They arn't meant to be somthing you keep sealed. :rolleyes: :p

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

manji
02-18-2003, 08:36 PM
So they're Entertainment Earth exclusives?

Turbowars
02-18-2003, 08:39 PM
I guess so, the fan Club is useless.

Beast
02-18-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by manji
So they're Entertainment Earth exclusives?
Nope, they were originally scheduled to be Fan Club Exclusives. Then the Fan Club was sold, and is currently undergoing a restructuring. Due to that, instead of cancelling them Hasbro shifted them out to 3rd party retailers. Which just means that basically any of the online E-tailers could carry them. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

187-Maul
02-18-2003, 08:46 PM
I just hope www.toy-palace.de will get these sets, or else I probably won't have a chance to get this cool set:(

bobafrett
02-18-2003, 11:43 PM
I just got notified that my 4 pack of Sandtroopers is on it's way from Entertainment Earth. I also got my catalog from them today with lots of Star Wars toys pictured. They have Sandtroopers listed, so try them!

LTBasker
02-18-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by JangoFart
Well, since it's the white boxed crap, I won't be buying it. They would, however, make a SWEET display if they were boxed in a Cinema Scene-type of box with a Dewback (either on a background insert or an actual creature) in the background.



Originally posted by turbowars
Yeah well, no one said Hasbro had an brains when it comes to marketing. If they were packaged in a Cinema box, they would fly of the racks. What if it had that one trooper holding the droid part, saying "looks Sir, droids"

They weren't meant to be new figures and to make you go all googily inside from the packaging. If they were, they'd likely be released in a screen scene with dirt all over'em. How hard is it to throw together a cardboard box display if you want one? I've seen your customs in the customizing section, I'm sure you could tackle cardboard, as I'm sure everybody else could.

As said, they are army-builders, they're online exclusives, they're cheap priced and they're nice. Nobody loses. You knew the Stormtrooper 4-pack was done in white mailer boxes, as is the Endor set, why would you expect them to go all out just because they have different color pauldrons? You're just looking for something to complain about with that.



Originally posted by JangoFart
I'm $.02 poorer now....

A lot better than the extra dough it would've cost for special packaging just for repaints when they're just army builders.

Turbowars
02-19-2003, 12:26 AM
Dude, Relax. Whats up with the insults latly in the forums? I'm just saying it would be nice. No one can say a god damn thing around here any more. lol :stupid:

hukilu
02-19-2003, 12:51 AM
What I would really like to know but have yet to find information on is:

What Sandtrooper rank is attached to each color (orange, black, gray and white)?

For example: Yellow Clone Troopers = Commander, Red CT = Capt., Blue CT = Lt and Green CT = Sgt.

Further more: Yellow Battle Droids = Commander, Blue BT = Pilot and Red = Security.

LTBasker
02-19-2003, 01:03 AM
No clue, it's never been said. I've kinda been going by:

Black - Basic Soldier
Blue/Grey - Dewback handler/rider
Orange - Sergeant
White - Captain

That's just what I've been going by, because that's how they've been mostly represented as.

Beast
02-19-2003, 01:24 AM
I've done some digging, and come up with the following color designations from various sources. Decipher, Visual Dictionary, etc. I believe them to be pretty accurate. :)

Orange = Captain, White = Sergeant, Black = Basic Trooper, Grey = Dewback Patrol

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

mm74md
02-19-2003, 09:14 AM
Has anybody seen these for sale other than Entertainment Earth or eBay?

I'd like to know before I pre-order from EE.

Thanks!

JangoFart
02-19-2003, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by LTBasker
They weren't meant to be new figures and to make you go all googily inside from the packaging. If they were, they'd likely be released in a screen scene with dirt all over'em. How hard is it to throw together a cardboard box display if you want one? I've seen your customs in the customizing section, I'm sure you could tackle cardboard, as I'm sure everybody else could.

As said, they are army-builders, they're online exclusives, they're cheap priced and they're nice. Nobody loses. You knew the Stormtrooper 4-pack was done in white mailer boxes, as is the Endor set, why would you expect them to go all out just because they have different color pauldrons? You're just looking for something to complain about with that.

A lot better than the extra dough it would've cost for special packaging just for repaints when they're just army builders.

Here's a crazy idea: If YOU want special purdy colored pauldrons, how about YOU grab some paint and paint them whatever color you want? I wonder what is the more difficult task - slapping an inch of paint on an existing critter or crafting a display box and window befitting such cool characters?

Just thinking out loud here..... Which beats typing without doing so.

J

Beast
02-19-2003, 10:37 PM
Why should he paint them, didn't Hasbro already do it for the people that didn't want to paint them? That's pretty silly. Why would someone want to track down 4 figures that are no longer shipping, when they can easily just buy the 4-pack. Would be cheaper, in the long run. After all, it is an army builder set not a Screen Scene. :p

Can you imagine the cost involved in that. Especially if you wanted a small army of them. They're an army builder set, they have limited appeal to collectors. So why design a fancy package, jack the price up, when the majority of the people buying them would be buying them to open for their armies. Man, some people make no sense around here. :p :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

LTBasker
02-19-2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by JangoFart
Here's a crazy idea: If YOU want special purdy colored pauldrons, how about YOU grab some paint and paint them whatever color you want? I wonder what is the more difficult task - slapping an inch of paint on an existing critter or crafting a display box and window befitting such cool characters?

Just thinking out loud here..... Which beats typing without doing so.

J

I didn't ask for them though, they just popped up. I have no problem with painting them, I would've just needed to find more Troopers. I had no idea though that Hasbro would do this set before it was announced, and the only times I've asked for colored pauldron versions were on basic carded resculpts of the Trooper to make them unique.

Both you and turbowars make it seem like I was attacking you, I was merely pointing out what I thought. Dudes, relax. ;)

JangoFart
02-20-2003, 12:01 AM
Jack up the price?? Do you know how much these 4 figures cost? Eighteen to twenty bucks (without shipping) everywhere I've seen them. Let's say, for instance, I wanted to go out and buy 4 POTJ Sandtroopers for the purpose of building an army and/or painting their pauldrons. What would that cost me? Hmmm, about 20 bucks. This same 20 bucks would somehow, someway alienate droves of collectors just because they bought figures which they could EITHER open and make an army OR leave boxed and display? Please..... Who's failing to make sense here?

The Rebel Pilots Cinema Scene comes to mind here. Three figures that could have just as easily been wrapped in a plastic bag and slapped into some generic white box for those of you who want to make a smurfy "everyone head to their ship!" kinda scene. Instead, we have one of the cools CS's around.

Fuss and moan if you must, guys; I can take it. But, these guys would have made the coolest CS yet with the background I wrote about earlier. That's my only point.

I did not state that Hasbro is either good or bad in their decision and I didn't say anything negative to those of you who are excited about these figures. Be excited! They are great figures! They are great figures that I'll never buy because I don't get the warm and cuddly feeling from having actual skin-to-plastic contact that some of you do. And, I don't complain about that warm and fussy feeling; whatever floats your boat regarding YOUR collecting habits is YOUR concern, not mine. Having a nice, professional looking display floats MY boat. But then again, that's none of YOUR concern either. We'll all collect how and what we want to collect without the approval or permission of each other. How's that grab ya? :)

These are great figures and I'm happy that Hasbro has made them available to SOME of the Star Wars fans. I would have preferred Hasbro made them available to ALL of us instead. THAT will keep some people, like myself, from buying them. Not out of protest or anger or anything other than they absolutely do not interest me, or any other carded/boxed collector I'd wager, in any way.

To say that you openers would not have bought it for the same $20.00 you would have had to spend on 4 separate characters is absurd.

J

Beast
02-20-2003, 12:35 AM
Yeah, I know how much they cost. Well, they were $5.99-$6.99 when they were first released. And many army builderes cleared the racks of them. So that's $24.00-$28.00 worth of figures at full retail. But what's this, they are no longer available at retail. Guess we need to hit ebay for these. Let's look, $5.99-$6.99 there as well. And you're guarenteed to pay shipping. And then you have to paint them yourself. So about a $30.00 or so investment for 4 Troopers. Wow, I can get 4 of them for $17.99 plus shipping. And what's this, New Force Collectibles only wants $14.99. :)

These are army building sets for a reason. They don't differ all that much from the basic carded version. Unlike the Rebel Pilots Cinema Scene that included 2 figures that were'nt available anyway else, and a new version of Wedge. Hmm, damn...that's quite a bit different then just a simple deco change. So no, they arn't exactly somthing that could just be stuck in a mailer box and sold. As they arn't really army builders. Wait, lets look at the other Cinema Scenes. You know, none of those were army building charecters. :)

That's the point, they are army builder figures. They don't offer anything substantial from the original POTJ carded version. So sticking them in a cinema scene, with a fancy box and a bunch of frills isn't somthing that should even be considered. That defeats the entire purpose of an Army Builder. They are supposed to be a cheap means of buying a lot of figures, to build up your armies. They don't fit the theme at all of the past Cinema Scene releases. But you know what, they do fit the Army Builder ones. Previously available figures with little or no changes, that can be used for building armies.

Even the Endor Rebel Soldiers were a stretch, because they all had the same faces. But they were generic charecters, unlike the ones in the Cinema Scene. I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see clones of Wedge Antillies, Ten Numb, and Arvel Crynid running around in ROTJ. So they don't really fit the Army Building definition. Now if they were named, X-Wing Pilot, B-Wing Pilot, A-Wing Pilot, and had more generic head sculpts, then maybe. But I do recall a bunch of StormTroopers in ANH, ESB, and ROTJ. And there we're quite a few SandTroopers in ANH also. :)

Sure, nice boring boxed stuff may look ok. But you have carded SandTroopers. POTF2, POTJ, and SandTrooper w/ Dewback. There is stuff for the carded collector. If it's stuck on a card, why care what color it is. If the pauldron colors would have come out in POTJ, they would have been on a basic card and you wouldn't have a fancy Cinema Scene either. Exactly, we all collect differently. You collect carded and boxed, and these are for people who actually open their toys and use them for scenes. It's a cheap way for them to build an army. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

JangoFart
02-20-2003, 12:55 AM
First, those who would bother to look would find no shortage of these, and all other POTJ figures, on clearance damn-near everywhere for under $4.00 each. Kay-Bee, Wal-Mart, and K-Marts I've been to in the past 2 months have MOST of the later POTJ figures dirt cheap. And TRU has them for $4.99 all day, and most likely night, long. If you insist on paying someone for shipping, that's your call.

The same method of using different parts to put together these Sandtroopers was used to make each of those Pilots. They just used different buckets from which to pull the parts and put them together to make "new" figures. So, it's not like they had to re-invent the wheel or anything.

They can be termed "army builders" or "Cinema Scenes" or "Screen Scenes" or whatever other clever moniker someone comes up with. That doesn't change the fact that these are figures of great interest to more collectors than just those who open.

Liking it or not changes nothing - I don't like it that they won't be released in a cool display-worthy box, but it won't change it; your being happy that they were made like they were didn't make it happen and wouldn't change it if it were otherwise.

It is a cheap way to build an army and I'm, AGAIN, happy that it's available to those who are interested. However, I have this sneaky feeling that you'd pay $20 - $25 for these figures if that's what they cost; be it in a white box, display box, hidden at the bottom of a sack of potatoes or otherwise.

J

Beast
02-20-2003, 01:11 AM
Hmm, funny they sold them all out around here when they came out. I guess you didn't bother to check everyones stores. Next time you should consider that your stores arn't like everyone elses. Gasp, what a novel idea that would be. :)

Not exactly, the Rebel Pilots Cinema Scene used new parts as well. Even Wedge was somewhat new. They didn't just slap some paint on some old figures and stick them in a box. There is quite a large difference between both cases. But of course, you never opened yours so that would possibly escape you. :)

Like I said, you have your carded POTJ ones. These are intended for army builders, so they can build a cheap army. And $17.99 compared to what 4 of them would have cost you when they were released is a very nice deal. Especially if like some army builders I want 40 or so. Why force army builders to have to pay more, to get a artsy-fartsy box, base, and background?

If I needed them for my army, I would be glad that Hasbro was cutting me such a nice deal. If I wanted a lot of them, I would be happy if they were in plastic baggies loose in a padded mailer envelope. Or in a giant plastic bucket. As long as Hasbro gave me a good deal on somthing I needed. Then it's cool with me. But making me pay more for un-needed packaging and design work, for a figure that was already available carded is a waste. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

JangoFart
02-20-2003, 02:32 AM
Meesa no thinks you understand what even YOUSA are saying, Mr. Gungan.

You're telling my that MY stores are, somehow, unique or atypical to all other stores in the country, eh? That of all the collectors out there I, JangoFart, was blessed by the toys gods to have the only available figures while others, who did not share in the gods' graces, were doomed to nothingness. Yet, at this VERY SAME time, YOUR stores were identical to all others cross-country, save mine of course, in what they had on-hand. Yeah, gasp, that IS a novel idea.

And, adding a tad extra heat to a leg and/or arm mold to make it bend a little more than the other character's leg so they don't look identical and THEN slapping some extra paint on it doesn't really count as "new" parts, as far as I know.

"You truly have a dizzying intellect" - as I once heard in a cool movie.

J

Beast
02-20-2003, 02:39 AM
No, if you would bother to read I said that your stores are not like everyone elses. All of them get in different ammounts of stock, and have a different cross section of collectors. So while your stores may have a ton of POTJ figures left after the line switched over to Saga, I can tell you right now that that's only your opinion from sampling your stores.

Judging how fast EE's first shipment sold out, and how many people are still waiting to get more of these I would think that more people have stores that resemble mine, as far as stock go. It's not like Hasbro sends a certain number of each charecter to every store, you know.

There arn't army building folks in all areas either, it depends on the cross section of collectors. But I haven't seen a Sandtrooper since he was first on the pegs. If you did, then you could always grab four of them, re-paint, and re-package them as you want. More power to you. :)

By the way, you may want to crack open those figures from the Cinema Scene if you think they are the same as previously made figures. It's more then a bit of a bend and a little bit of paint. Of course again, the workmanship on the set could be lost to you due to the packaging. Atleast as far as two out of the three charecters are concerned. ;) :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

JangoFart
02-20-2003, 02:42 AM
Snappy comeback!

With regard to stores, I recommend you re-read what I wrote, my friend, and we'll see who didn't bother reading.

J

manji
02-20-2003, 04:28 PM
Say, while we're in a peeing contest here, I'll throw in my $.02 that no one cares about.

I believe that of these four sandtroopers, the only one that hasn't been previously released in some form or fashion is the black-pauldroned one. I am an opener - but I only buy figures once. Absolutely NO resculpts for me, not even updated versions of the original Kenner line (my wife would kill me if I tried to buy everything). So basically I only want the one sandtrooper, yet I've got to buy the whole bleeping set just to get that one!

OK, like I said - no one cares....

Beast
02-20-2003, 04:40 PM
Manji, all the colors have been made available thru the various lines. Here's a breakdown. The POTJ one has been debated, but it's darker grey then the Dewback rider pauldron. :)

POTF2 Carded - Orange Pauldron
POTF2 Dewback Beast - Grey Pauldron
POTF2 Pop-Up Cantina - White Pauldron
POTJ Carded - Black/Dark Grey Pauldron

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

manji
02-20-2003, 04:45 PM
Is that so?! Wow - I didn't realize that the POTJ pauldron was black. I thought I'd have to get the army builders pack just to get the black pauldron. That's terrific news - you've saved me some cash!

JangoFart
02-20-2003, 05:59 PM
Manji: Love the "Raising Arizona" quote! I've always dug that movie and that part still tickles me.

J

manji
02-20-2003, 07:04 PM
Thanks JF! It's one of my all-time favorites.