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jad
03-16-2003, 01:47 AM
Hi Folks,

Seems like i've heard rumors for the past few months about a Cloud Car being released this year as an exclusive. I believe I heard something in one of Jar Jars posts about the cloud car actually being ready for quite a few years, but Hasbro just hasn't got a retailer to take it for an exclusive.

So as Galactic Hunter has shown us, somtimes these exclusive prototypes show up in the form of pics on the net. So are there pics of this thing lying around somewhere? And does anyone have anymore info about this exclusive. Jar Jar, perhaps you could help :)

Beast
03-16-2003, 02:18 AM
The Cloud Car has been on the list as possibly coming out, every year since 1999. Every year, we hear it's being looked at and is coming. This year is now the fourth that it's been on the possible list, but in the end turned down for somthing else. Hasbro pulls it out every year, and presents it to Target.

But for some reason Target passes on it for other exclusive choices. I'm not sure if they have showed it to any of the other stores or not. But I know that everytime we get rumors that it's coming, it's listed as from Target. I'm not sure why, it's one of those confusing things from the info that does trickle out.

Galactic Hunter asked Hasbro about the Cloud Car, and they said it's a possibility for 2004. So hopefully it will actually come to pass this time. There really isn't that many ships left to do, so it has to come sooner or later. It did recently appear on the internal list for 2004 that showed up. The same one that according to GH, from what Hasbro said at their show, could be real. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

jad
03-16-2003, 02:35 AM
Thanks for fillin me in, and that was in record time I might add :)

mark2d2
03-16-2003, 02:15 PM
Frankly, it strikes me as so very odd that no one has picked it up.

Seriously.

There has to be more people who want this ship than a rehashed Naboo fighter. It just doesn't make sense . . . :sur:

Beast
03-16-2003, 04:17 PM
I think the few rumblings I did hear on the ship, is that it doesn't do anything signifigant in the movies. It's just an escort craft for Cloud City. That's why it gets passed over for what the stores think, are more intresting vehicles. That's why it's taken so long for things like the Imperial Shuttle, Sandcrawler, etc. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Kidhuman
03-16-2003, 07:14 PM
I don't care if it whistled Dixie, I want a new one. I think it is one of the better looking ships in the trilogy.

mark2d2
03-16-2003, 08:05 PM
But without the Sandcrawler --- none of the movies would have even happened!

I'm sorry --- but all these re-releases of Saga ships don't make any sense. Nor will they sell.

Amy
03-16-2003, 10:18 PM
I really could care less if I have a new one or not. I use the EU cloud car, and looks great to me:).

stillakid
03-16-2003, 10:30 PM
I've got one vintage (in kinda sad shape), so it'd be kinda nice to see a new one that came with two pilots.

JediTricks
03-19-2003, 12:40 AM
That was the EU Cloud Car, aka the Carrotmobile with Celeryman. ;) It was based on concept art.

Beast
03-19-2003, 12:51 AM
Dammit JT, you almost ended up owing me a new keyboard. I read your post, just as I was taking a drink of Cherry Pepsi. :crazed: Carrotmobile with Celeryman, that's classic. Yeah, that design was pretty terrible, same with the flying potty chair. Atleast the Snowspeeder was pretty cool. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

evenflow
03-19-2003, 12:40 PM
I want a CLoud Car with 2 pilots, as well as the Sand Crawler.

mark2d2
03-19-2003, 02:08 PM
Yeah, Evenflow, those are the two REMAINING toys that I am just DYING to see made . . .

Both are ones I never got as a child and always regretted it . . .

mark2d2
03-22-2003, 05:26 AM
Okay, I recently bought the original Kenner negative to this pic ---- and more than anything, it really, REALLY makes me want them to re-issue this long neglected workhorse of Bespin.

I can't believe no retailer wants to pick this puppy up! I genuinely think that it would really sell quite well. C'mon Hasbro! What's the hold up? Help me satisfy a long lost unresolved childhood dream . . . :crazed:

PS --- looking at this ship again, I've noticed something I've never really thought about. Its design really reminds me a lot of things we see on Coruscant. Or even some of the Naboo vehicles --- the roundness -- the art deco look. It's a neat visual link between the OT and the Prequels. Heck, I'm kinda surprised we haven't seen these flying around in the Capital . . . :evil:

Old Fossil
03-22-2003, 09:50 AM
I know I'd buy at least one of these if they released it! My Lobot looks bored, with nothing to tend to...:)

JediTricks
03-23-2003, 08:10 PM
This is one of the few vintage pieces I have, Cloud Car with 2 pilots, and it's pretty neat. If it had a weathered paint job, it'd look almost perfect. However, from a toy perspective, it feels a little too hollow and bland. If Hasbro could slap some more detail into the cockpit and maybe have the forward section open up to show sensors and the inside of the blaster, this would go from a toy seen as sorta bland to a really awesome toy for kids and collectors.

Tycho
03-24-2003, 01:22 AM
In the movie, the Cloud Car fired two shots across the Falcon's bow when Han was saying: "Wait! Let me explain! I'm trying to reach Lando Calrissian..."

No, the Cloud Car did not hit the Falcon, they weren't trying to, and if they scanned the Falcon, they'd know Han could take them both out with only firing two heat-seeking concussion missles, no problem.

However, the toy, could feature two red, firing missles, one from each pod, that are well hidden in the weapons scoops.

This would make it fun for kids, (and me, because I love firing missles!), as well as keeping it authentic by hiding them well, and weathering the paint job as JediTricks suggested.

Including 1-2 pilots with head variations would settle the rest. The Snowspeeder re-release included two figures (Luke & Dak) so why not?

mark2d2
03-24-2003, 05:10 AM
I'd be all for firing missles . . . IF they are hidden as well as the one's on Jango's Slave 1. If not --- then don't bother. I just love the design of this bad boy and the fact that it holds two figures . . . :D

Amy
03-24-2003, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by mark2d2
I'd be all for firing missles . . . IF they are hidden as well as the one's on Jango's Slave 1. If not --- then don't bother. I just love the design of this bad boy and the fact that it holds two figures . . . :D


Right on my man. If it sees shelf time in the future, I'm on it.

jjreason
03-24-2003, 10:51 AM
It's been one of the most widely talked about and requested vintage remakes (at least during my time on this site). Im sure it's an eventuality, they are likely just waiting for a non-movie year. Good thing we're into a couple now, maybe we'll see it happen.

JediTricks
03-26-2003, 01:05 AM
Sorry JJB, no refunds for ruined keyboards, though I bet if you sued Pepsi... ;) BTW, that is a classic, from way back on the old UBB forums when I first came up with it. :D My celeryman actually has to sit on a block of plastic I made myself to be seen through the canopy on that vehicle, I never understood why they made the seat so low. I mean, it's already a crappy-looking toy, why make it WORSE?!? :crazed:


Tycho, why the hell are you trying to convince Hasbro to add more lame missiles to these toys? Star Wars and Transformers are already sick with these stupid things, too often they leave big openings when they're not loaded and look bad when they are, poor Saga Chewie's bowcaster is a marble-type one -- that's just embarassing!!! Please, PLEASE no more dopey missiles Hasbro - if kids want to shoot stuff, they can THROW things at it. ;)

Jango's slave 1 hidden missile launcher was a fluke, and it takes up the doorway too, far too many Hasbro missiles are badly handled - I can count their adequate execution on 1 hand (Jango's Slave 1, Jedi Starfighter, the front guns on the Rep Gunship, and I'll give you the Naboo Fighter).

Tycho
03-26-2003, 04:33 AM
Firing missles on vehicles done right:

JT was right with the start of his list:

Republic Gunship
Jango Fett's Slave One
Naboo Starfighter

but the Jedi Starfighter is awkward to use, the guns on the hull of the actual ship do not fire on the toy, and you have to open an EU feature that reveals so much firepower that Anakin shouldn't ever need a Death Star :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, other firing missles done right:

Snowspeeder (though a little large)
AT-AT
Flash Speeder
T-16 Skyhopper
Darth Vader TIE Fighter (in my opinion, though I'd accept a case otherwise)
F/X X-wing
Federation Droid Fighters

Jargo
03-26-2003, 06:50 AM
The trade fed droid fighters also have nice missile firing mechanisms. Slim flat missiles are good. It's the huge round ones i don't like. I don't see a need for missiles on the cloaud car. It's a security craft not a fighter craft. having the body work open up would be better. Engine detailing inside. The vehicle packed with a small vehicle maintenance energiser type accessory with flexible hoses and a few tools would be wicked. Vehicles should pack with that sort of stuff. It's all very well saying 'recreate the movie scene' but what happens when you're bored of that scene and want other adventures? having bits and pieces relevent to vehicles would extend the horizons a bit. Make up for a lack of poo pack in figure.

LTBasker
03-26-2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Tycho
Republic Gunship
Jango Fett's Slave One
Naboo Starfighter
Snowspeeder (though a little large)
AT-AT
Flash Speeder
T-16 Skyhopper
Darth Vader TIE Fighter (in my opinion, though I'd accept a case otherwise)
F/X X-wing
Federation Droid Fighters

Hmm...
Gunship - Semi-Perfect, the missiles are large and virtually unusable unless at close range, and the door missiles are a pain to put back on without taking away from play time. The air-to-air missiles under the wings are nice but they just don't give a missile-feel with their squared off backings.
Slave 1 - I would've preferred the missiles be on the bottom, they'd have to make it bigger... catch my drift? ;)
Naboo Starfighter - Perfect.
Snowspeeder - Yea it was a little too big..
AT-AT - I dunno, don't have one :cry:
Flash Speeder - the missile was perfect, the rest of the ship though :dead:
T-16 - sweet.
DV TIE - good additions to an otherwise boring sculpt, it's a shame they didn't put more into it like a hidden storage compartment for his cape and lightsaber.
X-wing - it was ok but I dunno, would've looked worse anywhere else so ok.
Droid Fighters - sweet, though they didn't have missiles/torps but it was still pretty cool.

The EU Cloud Car actually has a pretty decent missile firing mechanism since it's EU in basic design already, it's battle mode isn't as awkward as the Jedi Starfighter's.

I'm suprised actually that Kenner never put firing missiles in the Falcon, I mean that thing is definitely large enough to have multiple cuncussion missiles well hidden ready for firing. :)


Dunno about missiles on a Cloud Car toy, I mean while it may add to the play value, Hasbro hardly does a good job at hiding them lately. I mean look at how they did Chewie's bowcaster. Instead of one of those basic missiles that you flick with your finger, they made it to where you'll actually have to put force on the back of the missile (ow) to get it to launch, and usually they only launch a little. If you bought any of the Batman & Robin movie toys you'll know what I'm taking about. They hurt like heck when you're trying to force them out, and if they had gone with just the basic flicking missile, then they could've saved alot of the sculpet from mutilation. :mad:

Tycho
03-26-2003, 02:29 PM
How are all of you talking about Chewie's bowcaster?

Do any of you have him already?

He's with Han Hoth in the release AFTER Mace, Boba Fett, R2D2, and Anakin "secret ceremony," right?

So how do you know about Chewie's bowcaster?

The only pictures show you that you can attach a 'normal' end to Chewie's weapon, so collectors can display him looking exactly like the movie, while only by removing the authentic end piece, can you load the missle.

Missles with Hasbro, rarely mean missles and they're intended to simulate laser bolts.

Few Star Wars vehicles actually shot missles in the movies:

Jango's Slave One,

the Republic Gunship,

Hailfire Droid,

AAT Tank (another one I forgot that turned out perfect for Hasbro!)

the Naboo Starfighter,

the X-wing,

the Y-wing (if Dutch could have taken his shot),

the TIE Bomber (another one I forgot that Hasbro did well)

the Falcon

the Snowspeeder (in a manner of speaking about the harpoon gun)

er...well OK - lot of stuff shot projectiles....lot of Hasbro stuff does too I guess.

Point moot Tycho :eek:

LTBasker
03-26-2003, 04:49 PM
"Normal" End? Nope sorry, theres no end cap. The connecting piece is actually the two top scopes, definitely not even near capping off the gaping hole on the end. :( I've attached a comparison pic below from a movie shot and the two Hasbro pics.



I think one of the biggest flops was during the SOTE Line with the Swoop, the missile was highly outofplace looking. Though it did add an interesting factor to an otherwise dull for a kid bike, it still didn't fit right due to the other side having it "cut-off." Or it at least looked that way.

Actually now that I look back, I think one of their first successes was the Deluxe POTF2, while the concept was a bit weird, the Skiff thing was interesting and had the missile nicely integrated with it. The missiles on the Deluxe Hoth Soldier and Snowtrooper's cannons were done perfectly as well, while this isn't about just any missile feature, they were still done nicely.

Tycho
03-26-2003, 04:57 PM
I'm guessing you don't have the figure yet. Nice Photoshop work, but it still doesn't show a picture of the TOY with the normal end put on the bowcaster.

LusiferSam
03-31-2003, 12:48 AM
Plus side of Hasbro making a cloud car is they could only improve it. After all there's no electronics to remove, the vintage version has no paint scheme, and there's a good changes of getting a figure out of it. Still there's little good to be said about a lame vehicle from the hay days of Star Wars.