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Glitch
03-31-2003, 12:30 PM
I'm going to be a bit lazy. Here is a portion of an e-mail that I sent a board member who wanted to see the prototype MM Snowspeeder. While it is not the most blatant example of the difference between prototype and production, it is stil VERY obvious. Plus, it IS the Snowspeeder. :)


Here are some comparison pics of my prototype hard copy Snowspeeder and the production piece. This is the one that was used for photography on the backs of the MM cards.

You can see the differences like the placement of the decals, the overall sharpness of the detail, the vast difference in paint, and the variation in the gun tips from the proto to the production. Things like this are what made Galoob decide to go with a softer PVC over a harder material. Obviously, the guns could not protrude the way they do on the production piece if it was made of a harder, more brittle plastic, so, when the decision was made to use a softer plastic, the guns were extended.

Here is a 3/4 view of the production piece...

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1951748.jpg

And the prototype... Note the placement of the "ZZ" decal. It is placed correctly on the cockpit on the proto, but it is on the side of the ship on the production piece. For some reason, the paint around the widows looks a little off in the pics. That is because a high gloss black paint was used on the windows, and what you are seeing is a highlight glare rather than a wavey paint application line. In reality, it is VERY strait and sharp. :)

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1951778.jpg

Bottom view of the production...

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1951724.jpg

And the prototype... Notice there are no dates or legal jargon there to obscure the rich detail. You can also see the resin material through the peg hole.

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1951893.jpg

Rear view of the production...

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1951864.jpg

And the prototype... Note the placement of the red decals on each.

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1951863.jpg

Side by side comparison. Notice the fine painting details on the gray panels at the rear of the ship in comparison to the production piece. That line through the panel is about as thin as a human hair. :eek:

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1951779.jpg

Overhead view. The prototype is larger than the production piece. This is always the case due to the shrinkage that occurs during the tooling and casting process. Also, notice that every single engine vent is sharp and defined on the proto. On the production piece, it is just a muddy gray block.

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1951892.jpg

I hope you enjoy!

P.S. Feel free to contribute.... :)

Hawkwind
03-31-2003, 03:00 PM
WOW.. why do prototypes look much better than the finished model? , the prototype looks like a real speeder that has been shrunk to mm size :)

since seeing that pic

BRING BACK MICRO MACHINES!!:D

r2dee2
03-31-2003, 03:09 PM
Glitch....awesome pics!!!

Question?.....in the production Snowspeeder, the "ZZ" decal is going in one direction and then "mirrored" on the other side of the Speeder.

In the proto, is the ZZ going in the same direction on both sides of the speeder?

Thanks for sharing the pics:)!!

Glitch
03-31-2003, 03:55 PM
Great eye, M!

It is mirrored on both sides of the proto as well. Also, I took a look at my prototype AF Snowspeeder, and it is mirrored on that one too.

Nutty.

r2dee2
03-31-2003, 04:20 PM
Hey thanks for the reply B:)!! Interesting.

You say "decal"....is the emblem a "stick-on" or is it painted on with a stencil or free-hand? I'd think if it was a stencil, then they'd just flip it across and you'd get your mirror image?

I just noticed it and wondered:)...you know, a woman wants everything in place:)

Glitch
03-31-2003, 09:18 PM
It's actually more like dry transfer lettering. You know, the type that comes on those sheets that you rub down with a pencil or blunt object.

Almost all of the micros I own are in proto from, so it is somewhat tough to do these comparisons. That said, I still have a few that I can do.

Any requests?

Tibor
04-01-2003, 10:52 AM
Hi Glitch,

Do you happen to have either the B-wing or Nebulon B cruiser? I always wondered how they looked in proto. Also, do you happen to know what fueled the decision to make the A-wing (non-battle damaged) out of hard plastic? The battle-damaged one seemed to prove it worked fine in the traditional micro plastic.

Tibor

Glitch
04-01-2003, 12:08 PM
I think I may have a production B-wing to compare. What is the "Nebulon B Cruiser?" I really don't have a clue as far as the new names for these things.

I'm from the Walrusman, Hammerhead, and Prune Face generation, so I refuse to learn the new "technical" names :)

LTBasker
04-01-2003, 12:54 PM
It was the Medical Frigate, I think that's what Galoob called it as well.

JediTricks
04-01-2003, 08:03 PM
Very impressive, makes my production MMs look like a pile of puke though. ;)

How much do you think Galco was paid to make these uber-fine prototypes per unit? I'm curious to compare proto to prodo prices based on initial cost (I already know the aftermarket cost - protos are priceless works of SW art, prodos are nice but go for around $1 to $2 for non-rare ones).

yorkie
04-02-2003, 02:45 AM
Anyone know what materials and tools are used make a prototype MM or AF, and how is it then broken down into components for manufacture.....is the prototype cut up into parts?

I've also seen pictures where the prototype is much larger than the production model, how/why is it made smaller?

jeddah
04-02-2003, 03:29 AM
oo oo! B-wing B-wing B-wing. Yes please even if you don't have a prodo, please post pics of the proto and then send the model to me (I think you'll find this is all in my contract), many thanks. :D :D

;)

jeddah

Tibor
04-02-2003, 09:05 AM
Oops, yeah, Medical Frigate ... long, skinny thing with a dangly front end and engine cluster in the back. They docked the falcon to a docking tube mid-ship. Sorry, I guess the Nebulon B bit comes from one of the role-play games, or somewhere. I have it in the back of my head that it's an imperial escort cruiser that was captured by the rebellion and converted to medical duty, but I may be dreaming.

By the way, one nice thing about the micro medical frigate is it is in almost perfect scale with the big sound and light Imperial Star Destroyer toy.

Anyway, I agree with Jeddah, I'd love to see a B-wing proto even without the production version. Cripes, Glitch, we can send you some production stuff if you want. I've got loose versions of just about everything micro-wise.

T