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THE Slayer
04-08-2003, 11:43 PM
Has anyone seen this movie?
Thoughts anyone? I watched it the other day, but I keot falling asleep, I was far to tired to concentrate, so I may have missed some things. I farely certain I understood what I was watching, but theres always a chance I've derailed.

PoggleTheGreater
04-08-2003, 11:54 PM
I just saw that recently. It's a pretty good time travel movie.

JON9000
04-10-2003, 09:56 AM
It has "Under the Milky Way Tonight" by the Church in it. That song was awesome.

Patient Zero
04-10-2003, 10:11 AM
Ya, the sound track was really good. The movie itself is great though. Go to the official site. It is really strange and gives outside info on some of the characters like the male teacher who gives Donnie the book use to work for NASA or something and was ran down and killed a year later by a black unmarked car.

PoggleTheGreater
04-10-2003, 02:35 PM
Speaking of time travel movies, anyone seen Frequency? That's one of my favorite movies about time travel.

THE Slayer
04-10-2003, 04:44 PM
I think I liked DD better than frequency. There was just something about Frequency that I didnt like, maybe it was dennis Quade, I'm not sure. It was still a good movie just not my fav.

derek
09-03-2004, 07:09 PM
Has anyone seen this movie?
Thoughts anyone? I watched it the other day, but I keot falling asleep, I was far to tired to concentrate, so I may have missed some things. I farely certain I understood what I was watching, but theres always a chance I've derailed.

i found this movie in the video store this week and have already watched it 4 times. i really liked it, especially the way the music was incorporated into the film. i understand the film was "low budget", as the director said in the audio commentary he only had 4.5 million to make the movie, a paltry sum by 2001 standards, and maybe it is just me, or was too much of the movie "not filmed"? donnie said he built a time machine, we needed to know more about the tangent universe, about the manipulated dead and living, etc...for the film to really make sence. if i have to go read up on this stuff, i think the filmmaker failed to make a complete movie.

of course, i thought donnie was just crazy, up untill the end of the movie, but it's revealed he wasn't.......but the only real way to know what the heck was going on is to search the internet and read some of the fan sites devoted to this movie.

but after doing so, i still have some questions.

1. was that a tornado over donnie's house, or a wormhole he created?
if it was a wormhole, wouldn't it of been better if the CGI didn't make it look like a tornado?

2. i'm guessing donnie sent the jet engine back in time from the tangent universe to the primary universe? if so, how did this make things "right"? why did donnie have to die? or was he initially supposed to die?

3. why did the "person" using frank the bunny to communicate to donnie use frank? was that to confuse the viewer into thinking donnie was crazy?

4. anyone seen the director's cut? if so, what's changed?

Ji'dai
09-04-2004, 01:17 AM
1. was that a tornado over donnie's house, or a wormhole he created? if it was a wormhole, wouldn't it of been better if the CGI didn't make it look like a tornado?
I think the tornado was a tear in the fabric of space-time caused by the collision of the tangent and real universes. If the tangent universe is not closed or prevented then it will cause the destruction of the real universe.


2. i'm guessing donnie sent the jet engine back in time from the tangent universe to the primary universe? if so, how did this make things "right"? why did donnie have to die? or was he initially supposed to die?

3. why did the "person" using frank the bunny to communicate to donnie use frank? was that to confuse the viewer into thinking donnie was crazy?

I think God sent the engine back in time. Donnie's greatest fear was that he was alone in the universe. God sends the engine back in time, but uses the manipulated dead (Frank) to lure Donnie out of the house. Since Donnie survives, the tangent universe is created. He then learns that he isn't really alone and comes to realize he must sacrifice himself in order to prevent the destruction of the universe. So he crawls back into bed and the engine squishes him. The tangent universe is never created, but the engine (the artifact) remains as proof that something supernatural sure the hell happened.

I'm an atheist but I'm willing to accept the existance of a Supreme Being and Acts of God to explain events in films like this.

derek
09-04-2004, 01:41 AM
I think God sent the engine back in time.

are you talking about the first time the engine appears? i thought the appearance of the engine was a result of a problem in the timeline or the primary universe? ......and that it didn't initially go thru a wormhole....and that donnie's whole puropse was to create a wormhole to send the engine thru, thus giving the engine's initial appearance an explanation.

i've read, or heard it on the director's commentary that the tangent universe began at 12:00 a.m. on october 2, 1988. (when the shot of the clock striking midnight was shown). that would be before donnie was woken up by frank or the engine hit his house.


I think the tornado was a tear in the fabric of space-time caused by the collision of the tangent and real universes. If the tangent universe is not closed or prevented then it will cause the destruction of the real universe.

when donnie and (dead)gretchen were up on the hill looking down at the "tornado" was it over donnie's house? i still think a better CGI effect should of been used so the "tornado" didn't look like a tornado. i would of made it look like a portal.:)

scruffziller
09-04-2004, 01:31 PM
Not sure if it is on here but they are going to rerelease this movie with extra scenes.

Ji'dai
09-04-2004, 06:57 PM
are you talking about the first time the engine appears? i thought the appearance of the engine was a result of a problem in the timeline or the primary universe? ......and that it didn't initially go thru a wormhole....and that donnie's whole puropse was to create a wormhole to send the engine thru, thus giving the engine's initial appearance an explanation.

i've read, or heard it on the director's commentary that the tangent universe began at 12:00 a.m. on october 2, 1988. (when the shot of the clock striking midnight was shown). that would be before donnie was woken up by frank or the engine hit his house.
It sounds like you're looking for a scientific explanation for the film's events. I'm just saying it was an Act of God. God takes in a interest in Donnie, who is depressed because he feels alone and alienated and is ridden with teen angst. So God creates the tangent universe to teach Donnie that he's truly not alone. He has friends, falls in love with a girl, loses his virginity, and discovers the truth about the universe -the truth that drove the Nun who wrote the "Philosophy of Time Travel" nearly insane (she's the crazy old lady who checks her mail constantly looking for a response that validates her book. She finally gets one too - from Donnie). The cost for God's lesson is Donnie's life - he learns he has to sacrifice himself in order to save the universe. This is where man's "free will" comes into play: Donnie has a choice: he can crawl back into bed, get squished, and save the world; or he can refuse and see the universe and everone he knows and cares about destroyed. Some choice, huh? But he chooses to sacrifice himself and becomes a savior of sorts. God is cruel.

Donnie is simply one of the manipulated living. God gets him to right a few wrongs and combat evil during the tangent universe timeline - like torching the self-help guru's mansion and exposing his pedophilia. Who tells him to do these things? Frank - the manipulated dead. Who manipulates the dead? God.


when donnie and (dead)gretchen were up on the hill looking down at the "tornado" was it over donnie's house? i still think a better CGI effect should of been used so the "tornado" didn't look like a tornado. i would of made it look like a portal.:)
I'm not sure now. I remember Donnie out on the road in the woods and he sees the storm in the sky which is beginning of the end of the world. I don't have a copy of the DVD so I can't check.

derek
09-04-2004, 07:19 PM
i was reading the "philosophy of time", ya know the book grandma death wrote?....richard kelly went back after the movie was finished and wrote a few "chapters" dealing with stuff like the manipulated dead and living and what i gathered from reading that stuff is that every action donnie performs in the tangent universe is to get the jet engine from the tangent universe to the primary universe. most of the time donnie isn't even aware his actions are moving him towards that goal. frank and the others in the tangent universe are all guiding donnie towards his goal. with gretchen's death he is finally forced to "pull the engine off his mom's plane" using his enhanced 4th dimension powers and send it back in time throught the "time machine" he created and into the primary universe. .........but this is my biggest complaint about this film. i wouldn't of known this if i didn't read up on the writer/director's post movie writings. ;)

.......and at the end, when donnie was in bed, even in the director's audio commentary, he was kinda unsure why donnie stayed in bed. he said either donnie thought it was all a dream or he was welcoming death. :confused:


God gets him to right a few wrongs and combat evil during the tangent universe timeline -

at first this is what i was thinking, but now i'm convinced after reading "the philosophy of time" that donnie flooding the school and burning down the house were all further steps towards getting the engine where it needed to be. the flood in the school led to him meeting gretchen, which led to their conversations about turning back time,......and burning down the house led to his mom having to go outta town so they could have the party, donnie could just miss seeing frank, and then being overcome with feeling the need to go to grandma death's house, which lead to gretchen's death, thus finally forcing donnie to send the engine back to the primary universe to save gretchen. ....i think busting jim cunningham's porn ring was just a bonus.:) ...and his arrest caused sparkle motion's coach to miss the flight to LA, forcing momma darko to take her place.

link to "the philosophy of time travel" http://ruinedeye.com/cd/time1.htm

a "cliff notes" review of the movie:
http://archive.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2004/07/23/darko/index.html

Hellboy
09-07-2004, 06:17 PM
While I never caught this film in the theaters I did watch it a few months back and loved absolutely everything about it. It occupied my thoughts for weeks and I bought the soundtrack the first chance I got. I can't think of another film that made me replay it's events in my head over and over again as much as this film did, truly mindbending and brilliant.

Has anyone seen the Director's Cut that saw a limited theatrical re-release a couple months ago? For a film that was already so rich in plot and character development I can't wait to see the how the deleted scenes incorporated back into the film add to it's depth. I'm waiting for this version to hit DVD before I purchase it but I really want to watch it again soon so I'm hoping it doesn't take to long before getting the treatment it so rightly deserves on video.

2-1B
09-08-2004, 01:09 AM
I'm with Hellboy. This movie is fantastic.

However, I do own the current DVD and will immediately purchase the Director's Cut and won't mind at all. Heck, I only paid $10 for the first DVD and for as many times as I've watched it, I already got my money's worth. :)

James Boba Fettfield
11-01-2004, 11:26 AM
Fox Home Entertainment has officially announced the new director's cut of Donnie Darko which stars Jake Gyllenhaal and Maggie Gyllenhaal. The two-disc set will be available to own from the 15th February next year, and should set you back around $26.98 in total. The film itself should be presented in 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen along with both English Dolby Digital 5.1 and 2.0 Stereo Surround tracks. Extras will include an audio commentary with Writer/Director Richard Kelly and Kevin Smith, a production diary with optional commentary by Director of Photography Steven Poster, a story-board to screen featurette, a They Made Me Do It Too documentary on the cult of Donnie Darko, #1 Fan: A Darkomentary and the trailer for the director's cut. I'm afraid the artwork has yet to be released, but we'll bring you that very shortly.

www.dvdanswers.com

Yay.

2-1B
11-02-2004, 11:51 AM
Whoa, plus The Digital Bits reports it's a 253-minute version of the film ?

That's gonna be one long mindtrip. :D

James Boba Fettfield
11-02-2004, 11:58 AM
253 minutes?! What?

Maybe they mean 153 minutes?

2-1B
11-03-2004, 03:01 AM
That would make more sense . . . but The Bits is still saying 253. Gotta be a typo. :D

(Doesn't pay to link to it since you have to scroll halfway down) :

Fox has a 2-disc Donnie Darko: Director's Cut set for 2/15/05 as well (SRP $26.98). The 253-minute version of the film will be presented in anamorphic widescreen with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. Extras will include audio commentary with writer/director Richard Kelly and Kevin Smith, the Donnie Darko Production Diary (with optional commentary by director of photography Steven Poster), a storyboard-to-screen comparison, the Director's Cut theatrical trailer, and the They Made Me Do It Too: The Cult of Donnie Darko and #1 Fan: A Darkomentary featurettes.

James Boba Fettfield
11-05-2004, 04:47 PM
I was messing with dvd aficionado today to see if they added the Region 1 DC of Donnie to their database, and they did. They also had a link to where it was being sold on amazon.com.

I checked the link to amazon, and they list it as being 253 minutes, too.

So then I checked amazon.co.uk, since Region 2 has the director's cut on dvd for purchase already. I think its release was last month.

Anyway, on amazon.co.uk they list the run time as 134 minutes for the director's cut. This information fits in with what imdb lists as the run time for Donnie Darko Director's Cut.

I would still like to know where that 253 number is coming from though. I can't see how someone could mistype 134 as 253.

In conclusion, don't expect 253 minutes of Donnie Darko film, but I don't think any of us were expecting that anyway.

Hellboy
11-05-2004, 07:05 PM
Maybe the running time for the whole disk with extras is 253 minutes. 119 min. of extras + a 134 min. running time for the feature.

Either way this is a must buy and I can't wait. :cool:

Huckleberry Josh
11-11-2004, 09:48 PM
Donnie darko is one of the best "newer" movies I've seen.Im saying newer because a lot of my favorite movies are rather old. I watch it at least once week.I understood most of it but it doesn't show how he found the wormhole to go back does it?He got in the car with dead Gretchin and all of a sudden he's back in his room right before the jet engine falls on the house. Other than that, I loved the movie.I actually bought a shirt with Frank the Rabbit on it and it says "Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?" Most of the people I talk to have never even heard of the movie.They don't know what they're missing.

scruffziller
12-30-2004, 03:20 PM
YES!!! I was quite overwhelemd after had watched this movie. I basically figured out that this is yet another example of a "modern messiah" movie. And it just isn't implied, the movie is chock full of planted biblical references. I am going to get the Director's Cut in Febuary.

2-1B
02-18-2005, 02:39 PM
So who watched the new DC ?

I haven't gotten around to it yet. Of course I'm interested in seeing all the added footage but hopefully it won't detract from the allure of the original release.

If nothing else, it should serve as a nice companion piece. I'm definitely not going to be unloading my theatrical cut, that's for sure.

scruffziller
02-20-2005, 02:42 PM
I own the DC. Not all the deleted scenes were added and didn't seem that much different. They do overlay page excerpts of the book "A Philosophy of Time Travel" in certain scenes to explain the things that are happening to a certain degree. It helped explain alot more than what I had researched on the internet when I saw the theatrical cut.

Hellboy
02-22-2005, 03:46 PM
I watched the entire 2-disc DC over the weekend and thought it was excellent. I figured it was just going to be the same basic movie with the deleted scenes from the first DVD re-edited into the film, but to my surprise it was much more than that. The Time Travel book excerpts really do lend to the overall comprehension of the film like Scruff stated and in addition to the incorporation of the new scenes some of the music has also been changed. Most notably the inclusion of my favoriite INXS song (Never Tear Us Apart) as the film opens and Donnie rides his bike back home from his hillside awakening. :cool:

The extras are IMO a bit lacking considering this is a 2-disc set but the audio commentary with Richard Kelly and Kevin Smith is definitely well worth checking out, especially if the film still doesn't make sense to you. I found the Production Diary and Storyboard-to-Screen Featurette fairly uninteresting and feel the bonus disc would have benefited greatly with the addition of a few more documentaries but oh well, The #1 Fan: A Darkomentary was absolutely hilarious. lol

Jedi_Master_Guyute
03-23-2005, 04:59 PM
I just saw the original version last night for the first time and was blown away. I sat there for about 10 min attempting to figure it out and then ran to the internet for assistance. lol This film is just amazing and i'm definately going to get this two CD score/soundtrack that has teh score and amajority of the 80's tunes in the flick. I did get the DC today and plan to watch it. One of my friends was complaining about the DC and how it explained too much and something about "random fireworks" at the end. I might get the old version too, just in case i feel like being more left in the dark. It's only 9 bucks now anyway. :D

2-1B
03-24-2005, 01:52 AM
Glad you liked it Guyute ! ! ! :)

I finally watched my DC, I'll say this much:

I liked it.

I think I liked the original cut more, but I don't think the DC 'detracted' from it because the more clearly laid out stuff didn't contradict any of my iterpretations from the first 3 times I spent figuring it out. :D

Hellboy I haven't watched the bonus features yet but I hope to do so soon.

I'm definitely keeping my original DVD. :)

scruffziller
03-24-2005, 10:15 AM
Gary Jules version of MAD WORLD(originally by Tears For Fears) has got to be one of the most emotion envoking songs I have heard. None since I have heard Dust in the Wind by Kansas.

Hellboy
03-24-2005, 06:05 PM
It think it would have been nice if the theatrical cut was included on this DVD set. I suppose its not a big deal picking up the old release since its pretty cheap but having it all in one package would have made this the definitive edition IMO.

I'm kind of torn as to which version I like more but I'd probably lean more towards the DC. More than the extra footage I really liked the inclusion of the book excerpts, but at the same time there was something unique about the feeling I got after watching this film for the first time and not really having all of the anwsers. Either way they're both great.

I agree with your comments about Mad World Scruff, it would be difficult for me to think of another movie off the top of my head that has a soundtrack as powerful or has a much meaning behind the songs as this film did.

I'd love to hear what you guys think about that #1 Donnie Darko fan when you get around to watching the extras. :classic:

Lord Malakite
03-25-2005, 03:47 AM
Who needs this movie when your entire life plays out just like it? I can't tell you how many times I followed a giant bunny around doing as it commands me to or trying to stab it in the eyes through the mirror to make it stop. But soon that will end. Easter approaches and at last I shall catch my prey, even if it means staying up all night to do so. :crazed: