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Jek Porky 2001
11-18-2001, 10:50 AM
Today I read in the Sunday People News Paper that Ewan McGregor has been slagging us off again and calling us weird he is turning out to be just like sir Al any thoughts?
Magnolia-Fan
11-18-2001, 11:21 AM
We ARE weird!
But who gives a rats @** what some actor thinks anyway?
Tarkin the otter
11-18-2001, 02:21 PM
I read that article too, Mcgregor was just trying to distance himself from that small group of fans who "believe he is Obi-Wan Kenobi in real life" to quote the paper. The article also claimed that "he kept fluffing his lines during filming, and his bloomers have been included in an out-take video being compiled by Star Wars creator George Lucas."
derek
11-18-2001, 03:48 PM
think about it jek porky, these people are just actors who really don't give a damn about star wars, despite what ewan has said in the past. they are basically picking up a huge paycheck. alec guiness may have hated us, but i guarantee you he didn't mind us making him wealthy. and these movie stars hate being type cast as anything.
master jedi
11-18-2001, 05:01 PM
But I thought Ewan got somewhat of a small paycheck. Something like a million bucks or something.
derek
11-18-2001, 05:20 PM
maybe they(mcgregor, neeson ,portman, christenson) got small upfront checks, but if they didn't get a percentage of the gross and merchandising, they are all idiots.
preacher
11-18-2001, 05:42 PM
I agree. Who cares what the nosepick thinks?
Any actor that complains that much about the "unexpected" admiration of fans obviously is retarded. Where the hell have these people living in a cave? It isn't by some random occurance that star wars has integrated itself into our pop culture. Mr Mcgregor had ... what ... about 20 years of seeing star wars merchandising close to everywhere in the world. If he was uncomfortable with the prospect of gaining recognition as a star wars icon he should have stuck with crappy movies like "Eye of the Beholder", or chose a career in retail.
Grow up Ewan. With the money comes the fame. Live with it. Incidently Mcgregor, your movie Moulin Rouge was a big soggy bowl of butt dandruff. He should be thankful for Star Wars. Its giving him some visibility in the movie world and will doubtless be a catalyst in future movie ventures (even if he doesn't act all that much in any of the prequels).
master jedi
11-18-2001, 09:58 PM
Look at it this way. If you played OB1 Kenobi would you want a lot of SW fans coming up and bugging you? I think we should give Ewan and the other SW actors a break.
Originally posted by master jedi
Look at it this way. If you played OB1 Kenobi would you want a lot of SW fans coming up and bugging you? I think we should give Ewan and the other SW actors a break.
I saw we stalk him untill he cries for his mother! or until he forces George to change EP2s title :)
SWAFMAN
11-19-2001, 01:40 AM
Master Jedi, I hope that was meant sarcastically. I mean, I don't care who we're talking about - a million bucks for a few months work ain't bad pay.
Sure, there may be a handful of actors working today who can demand more than that, but Ewan McGregor certainly isn't one of them. And to be honest, I didn't think he delivered all that strong a performance in Episode 1. To be fair, I didn't think his character's role was written very strongly either. However, we've all seen the right actor steal an entire movie with one or two extremely well-delivered scenes or lines. McGregor could have turned in a more memorable performance if he'd mastered his acting craft as well as he appeared to handle his swordsmanship.
But really, forget light sabers - for a million bucks I'd let them run me through with a REAL saber. Even if I didn't survive, at least the family would be set.
;)
Rollo Tomassi
11-19-2001, 02:42 PM
As much as I enjoy the "big soggy bowl of butt dandruff" line, I cannot let a disparaging rejoinder like that pass without offering up a rebuttal. Along with Memento, Moulin Rouge was the best movie of the year. if you want crap, I suggest you look to the following list of crap that invaded our multiplexes this year.
Spy Kids
Hannibal
Tomb Raider
Planet of the Apes
Osmosis Jones
Shallow Hal
Black Knight
The One
Kiss of the Dragon
Forsaken
Well, the list goes on and on...but you get the idea...
Wolfwood319
11-19-2001, 02:52 PM
I've seen Memento 5 times, and I'm still confused, but it is a very different and great movie none the less.
Anyway.
This all goes back to Bill Shatner's "Get a life."
Now granted, as much as many SW fans are obsessed with it, I don't think its reached Trekkie status.
These actors knew what they were getting into, but on the other hand, they're real people too, who deserve the right to go to the grocery store without getting mobbed. We as SW fans need to realize that Ewan McGregor is NOT Obi-Wan Kenobi. Its the fans that force Ewan to "slag off" the fans. If the fans left him alone, I don't think he would have said that.
preacher
11-19-2001, 06:20 PM
Moulin Rouge is Vertigo in comparison to Shallow Hal and Osmosis Jones; I'll give you that much. But IMHO Moulin Rouge still fell far from being a good movie. I'm picking on Ewan specifically because he has this nose up in the air my S#!+ don't stink attitude that has become so common place with actors any more. They don't need a break. They need to get a grip and adapt or else lead a very miserable life worrying about "weirdos" like myself and others that post on these forums.
Hayden is set to be Anakin Skywalker, is far better-looking than Ewan, has known what he was getting into, and is still having fun with it. I thoroughly enjoy reading his comments moreso that Ewan's. Cripes half the interviews Obi-Wan Kenobi gives he spouts out drivel that is disparaging toward star wars fans. I'm just tired of celebrity types in general. They just whine a whole lot more than they used to over BS that doesn't amount to anything.
Poor me this, and poor me that, and oh no boo hoo they tore the set to Moulin Rouge so that another set could be set up in its place. Wah-wah my fans want autographs! Sniffle-sniffle people won't stop making fan sites dedicated to a show I starred in.
Gosh Ewan has it so rough...I never even realized it:rolleyes:
master jedi
11-19-2001, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by SWAFMAN
Master Jedi, I hope that was meant sarcastically. I mean, I don't care who we're talking about - a million bucks for a few months work ain't bad pay.
I wasn't being sarcastic(sp?).
Sure it's not bad pay but that's what I heard. I think Lucas said that you should be honored to be in a Star Wars movie or something. This may be a rumor but I'm not sure.
bigbarada
11-19-2001, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by master jedi
I wasn't being sarcastic(sp?).
Sure it's not bad pay but that's what I heard. I think Lucas said that you should be honored to be in a Star Wars movie or something. This may be a rumor but I'm not sure.
I'm pretty sure GL never said that. It's not his style to toot his own horn like that.
As for pay, GL signed up certain actors for 1% of his director's take on the profits for Ep1. Something that NO other director has EVER done. GL has done this for every Star Wars film and American Graphitti. He's made a lot of millionares this way.
Obi-Dan Kenobi
11-19-2001, 10:38 PM
I've got to say McGRegor is one of my favorite actors working today. While his acting in Ep1 was sub-par, if you've seen him in his other movies I don't see how you can say he hasn't mastered his craft. (I did skip Eye of the Beholder, though.) And I have never thought he had a snooty attitude, really. He always seems like quite a great guy, who loves his job.
As much as I think people in his position should be thankful for what they have, I can understand his comments to a degree. Doesn't everyone have to deal with people (usually the customers or clients who are handing you over their money) that annoy you. I'd love to have the money nad fame that movie stars and rocks stars and the like have. But sitting through a press junket, and answering the same questions over and over for an hour? That would annoy me. Having people come up to me on the street and challenging me to a lightsaber fight? At first it might seem cute, but eventually it would annoy me. So I don't fault him for getting ****ed off about it. I'm sure Hayden Christensen will be saying similar things in a year or so. I just hope they also appreciate what they've got.
Obi-Don
11-20-2001, 05:39 AM
As I have stated in another post, it must be hard living that kind of life.But on the other hand it is part of that life they have picked and will have to live with it or get out. I feel for them because of those fans who can't seem to realize that it is only a movie. They do get paid very well for it and will be remember for a very long time for that roll. Also will be part a history as well. So to him I say,don't hate your fans but hate the ones who can't tell the difference between real life and acting.We all are not like that.:rolleyes: :evil: :D
JediTricks
11-20-2001, 08:39 AM
I think between the large number of fans and the percentage of those fans who are severely inconsiterate of the actor's feelings, we fans have pushed too hard and it has broken better men than Ewan. Ewan seems like a genuine acting talent to me, I haven't followed everything he's done, but he seems like a guy who has crafted his skill. Does this mean we have the right to intrude upon his non-work time? No. But he, and many other SW actors, have given a little of their free time to talk with fans or to sign autographs or whatever, and yet it can never be enough because there are so many more of us waiting. So until Ewan gets to the level that the late Alec Guiness was at - being cruel to children - I think we should accept him as he is and try to respect his personal space.
And one more thing, we fans are weird, we go beyond the standard levels of interest in Star Wars. That's not always a bad thing, but it's something that requires initiation to understand and fully enjoy. Check out William Shatner's book "Get a Life", where he actually goes undercover at convetions wearing a mask and learns what it's like to be a fan - the pros and the cons.
Rollo Tomassi
11-20-2001, 10:26 AM
"The only people who aren't weird are the people you don't know very well."
SWAFMAN
11-20-2001, 11:20 AM
...having lived in Hollywood for ~17 years and being on the inside (at the fringes, but inside) of the industry, I can say that there are gracious people and egotistical jerks, and everything in-between. Guess what, just like everyone else, at the core they are just people and they will fall into the same personality groups as anyone else at your school, place of work, or neighborhood. And just like anyone else, someone who is gracious on one day, may be having a bad day the next, and not be so friendly. Just like you or I.
I've seen Lou Ferigno go from being the most considerate, mild-mannered person you'd ever want to meet, into the a-hole from hell. Not because he was really a jerk, but simply because that stupid green makeup all over his face kept flaking into the stupid
yellow contact lenses he had to wear as 'The Hulk,' and he couldn't do anything about it, because the stupid green makeup was also on his damn fingers. (although that dude's fingers were SO huge, I'd have liked to see him TRY using them on little contact lenses, even if his hands were clean!!)
On the other hand, Bill Bixby was just a major flaming a-hole.... period.
But everyone has their limits, and no doubt the entertainers who are, or who have played a character that achieves, icon status must have a harder time enjoying some privacy. I've found that if you just treat them like normal people, they generally respond very well unless they are so ego-blown that they really think they deserve to be treated like royalty. And there are definitely more than a few of those.:rolleyes:
Tycho
11-21-2001, 02:59 PM
Look, I understand the difference between 'real life' and Star Wars.
If I ever met Mr. McGreggor I could conduct myself intelligently and considerately - not bothering him for an autograph etc.
I am smart enough to realize that he isn't actually Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I just want to see him use the Force to levitate something. That would be so cool, wouldn't it? ;)
Originally posted by Tycho
I just want to see him use the Force to levitate something. That would be so cool, wouldn't it? ;)
And that would be better than an autograph???Your MAD I say!!!Mad :mad:
Jargo
11-22-2001, 04:41 PM
Ewan is an actor. Actor's are always in need of work. Actor's will take a high profile job over a crappy low budget art house movie every time. It's income and it gets you noticed by casting agents.
i think Ewan's comments were directed at the stalking kind of fan who endlessly repeat "May the force be with you Ewan" like a mantra. he's not too fond of the expression. he thinks fans who devote their lives to a cult movie or series of movies are a little strange. So what. fans who devote their lives to a cult movie or a series of movies are a little strange, period.
If you were constantly being refered to by your character name instead of your real name wouldn't you get a bit miffed too? I know I would.
When you have an admirable body of work under your belt and all an interviewer can say is "What was it like working with R2-D2?" then i think you have a right to get a little ****y with the interviewer especially if they are a 'superfan' who follows you round and hangs out outside every place you visit in the course of your daily life.
Ewan is just trying to say that he's an ordinary guy doing a job. He plays a memorable character in a memorablr series of films. Enjoy his performance, tell him you enjoyed watching him work but don't keep banging on about it endlessly and don't confuse him with the character.
Just because you're a fan doesn't mean that you have automatic rights of access to every actor or personality on the face of the planet.
it also doesn't mean that the actors you like will want to meet you. Why on earth would they? Who are you what have you done? What rock did you crawl out from under?
As an actor myself I can think of nothing worse than gushing audience members embarrasing you with praise and tales of how they travelled to see you after seeing every other piece of work you ever did and they're your biggest fan... FREAKS! Ewan said it right. Actors just get paid to perform and entertain. We don't get paid to be hassled by jerks with autograph books and halitosis. After a bloody hard days work entertaining hundreds in a theatre performance the last thing an actor wants is to have to fend fans off at the stage door. Even worse fend them off at home after the wierdos followed and camped out in the front garden.
Fans are selfish and intrusive and invasive. Just watch the performance and then go home satisfied or not. If you want access then write and ask politely if it is possible to conduct an interview, if it is possible for you to have an autograph etc. don't assume you have a right to anything. You don't But Ewan and every other actor and performer have a right to privacy and respect.
Originally posted by EMPEROR JARGO
Just because you're a fan doesn't mean that you have automatic rights of access to every actor or personality on the face of the planet.
it also doesn't mean that the actors you like will want to meet you. Why on earth would they? Who are you what have you done? What rock did you crawl out from under?
No rights to access every actor :( If they're nice they would meet us,I'm GNT and I post, I crawled out from under that big rock in my backyard!
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