Scene Specific figures, as long as they're excellent sculpts, do you mind?

[I am Jabba the Hutt]

Personally, I don't mind if the figure is scene specific as long as the sculpt is excellent.
An example is Darth Vader - Bespin Duel. I love this figure, the sculpt is amazing but it is really scene specific. As long as the sculpt is accurate, I really don't mind if the figures are scene specific.
I certainly feel that the scene specific poses are better than the vintage figures that all have the same pose pretty much.
What are your views?

[Kidhuman]

I don't mind some scene specific figures. But in order to do it right, you need all the characters from the scene. The 3 pack boxes were great for doing it. Also as long as they offer the figure in a nuetral pose, then I really don't mind it. FOr example if the offered Anakin only in the Secret Ceremony than it would be a waste because he couldn't be used for another scene. In the years to come I think they will be more scene specific, especially after EP3.

[TheDarthVader]

I don't mind because I do not open my figures. The Vader Bespin looks great to me! As long as it is a good sculpt and nice pose I couldn't care less.

[Tycho]

Hard to say. 4 figures are giving me some problems:

Kit Fisto
Luminara
Bariss
Eeth Koth

All are great figures, but need resculpts realized to place them in cool character assortments you can make like Palpatine's Office and the Jedi High Council chambers. At the same time, the figures we already have of these Jedi, kick butt in any arena battle diorama.

Yet for diorama builders, it can be very frustrating.

Take Arena Mace for example. I like having this figure to use in two scenes: when Jango shoots flames at him from the Arena balcony, and when he takes off Jango's head. I like the passion expressed on the character's face. However, considering how many new scenes I wanted a Mace Windu figure in, the Arena Rescue one was pretty uselss most of the time. It's limitations were one reason the figure pegwarmed.

[Jayspawn]

I 'm for them as long as their not 'stuck' in a pose. Like Luminara for example. Cool figure, very detailed, but can't stand in Palpatines office or be anywhere else w/o picking a fight.

[JEDIpartner]

I don't mind them... WITH ONE CONDITION!!!! Make the first figure of the character a neutral pose. Make it a great sculpt with proper accessories and as much ariculation as possible. Then, and only then, should they make scene specific figures.

[Dark Marble]

I really don't care for them all that much. I like getting new figures, and for the most part I will take them how I can get them. But, I like neutal poses. I like Jedi that can hold their wepons with both hands, and I like figures that can be used in a variety of ways, not just for one specific thing. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any figure that has been released, posed for a specific scence, that I wouldn't like to have in a neutral pose. That doesn't mean that I don't have them though. :D

[Lman316]

I honestly believe that Hasbro would make a lot more money if they just started making "definitive" versions of the each character.
I know that doesn't apply to every character in the Star Wars universe, but I'm speaking of most main. Like Han, Chewie, Luke, Leia, Anakin, Obi-Wan Kenobi and so on and so forth. That way, you'd only have minimal resculpts in doing the other costumes those characters wear.
Like, if they had done the new Jedi Luke right, they wouldn't have had to do a new, collector-friendly version for the next year. If you had one that could be posed any which way, people could buy more then one, especially the diorama builders (I personally need a Jedi Luke in about 4 places - so right there I've bought four. But because of scene specifics, not to mention other reasons, I will buy zero of the new Jedi Luke).
Making a figure scene specific significantly hinders it. It limits what you can do with it and for the most part, they might as well be called statues. Luminara, for instance.
They only do it to squeeze more money from us and I think it's back firing on them.

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[Beast]

Originally posted by Lman316
Like, if they had done the new Jedi Luke right, they wouldn't have had to do a new, collector-friendly version for the next year.
Not exactly true, since the Luke: Jedi outfits differ a bit between his apperance in Jabba's Palace and the Death Star. Remember that Luke: JP has a vest on over his jedi outfit, as well as having the cloak that is never seen after that point. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[Lman316]

Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Not exactly true, since the Luke: Jedi outfits differ a bit between his apperance in Jabba's Palace and the Death Star. Remember that Luke: JP has a vest on over his jedi outfit, as well as having the cloak that is never seen after that point. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Quite true. But what if they had done what a lot of us had discussed? They make the base Jedi Luke from the Final Duel and then they could have just tossed in a soft goods vest for the palace. And then throwing in the extra hands, poncho, helmet... making it a "definitive" version. I don't see why they couldn't have done it that way. We've been asking for a long time on it.

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[Beast]

True, it could have been done that way. But soft goods look bad enough as cloaks and capes, most of the time. Can you imagine how horrible a cloth vest would look? They probably could have done it in a rubberish material though. But I don't mind re-sculpts being done for major costume variations like this. Just like the Leia: Hoth and Leia: Bespin Escape costumes differ. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

[Tycho]

They do it because:

1) They can sell Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, Han in the vest, etc. to every new collector (especially a kid during a movie year) that does not already have access to them (somewhere they can spend their allowance on the figure - not their parents' credit card, and someplace they can ride their bike to.) In other words, keep main characters on the market, always.

It is arguable that Teemto Pegules is a more interesting sculpt and has a nicer accessory than (insert your latest Jango Fett or Obi-Wan figure here), however, racks of Teemto do not sell, but an opponent to race Anakin, or fight Vader (like a background Jedi) will sell with the main character, to accessorize them.

2) Making resculpts of main characters versus re-issuing them does two things:

a) it does keep the main characters out there for brand new buyers

b) it does squeeze more money out of the completist collector than even variation hunters (who'd buy new card versions of the same figure) because their take on the hobby requires them to buy one of everything (by their own choice, mind you).

Hasbro is in business to make a profit from selling action figures. They'll take every sale for $4.99 they can get.

But you CAN choose what you buy or how much action figure collecting can make you happy.

Hasbro is not providing psychotherapy, so if compulsive completist collecting is your hobby, and it is making you unhappy, it is not Hasbro's fault. You might want to spend your money on counseling in the meanwhile since distribution is slow at the moment.

There ARE new buyers every day as population grows, babies grow up, and their parents show them Star Wars and they do become old enough to not choke on the parts - AND they'll want a Han Solo and Chewbacca, or whatever else they see on TV (and Greedo is more recognizeable than Mot Not Rab).

I think I partially owe the fact that I am basically a happy, well-adjusted person to the fact that my hobby here is diorama building and while I may get lots of droids and clones, or an Obi-Wan for every scene, I don't buy every figure they make and rejoice in my cash savings from waves I don't completely collect (as the money for one figure can readily go to the "clone" of another figure I already have, but need more of).

But then again I choose a low-stress take on my pasttimes. I have a job to stress over. (not really. I'm also into making career plans that interest me and allow me to enjoy my time at work too).

But then again, I'm not a person who needs a social worker to help them adjust to the action figure collecting world.

I just hope it won't take too long until I get Hem Dazon, J'Quille, General Veers, General Riekeen, Gragga, and Shu Mai.

[JEDIpartner]

...However, the question here is not about resculpts but about scene specific poses. Again, I reiterate, I don't mind the scene specific ones as long as there is one neutral, or as Lman316 stated, a definitive version in addition to the scene specific ones that come down the pike.

[Teeska Mon Eebon]

Like some other people said I would like or love any of those as long as they're in a nuetral pose... Some of those jedi in the saga like aree cool but kinda useless ecept for about 2 scene's.....

[plasticfetish]

No, I don't mind scene specific figures, but ... pose specific figures tend to be less desirable to me. The best example I can think of is the (potj) Emperor's Wrath Vader (one of my favorites.) It's scene specific, but not locked into any one particular exaggerated pose. The only thing that would make it "better" is if it had a little more articulation, so that I could choose to pose it in different ways. The Bespin Duel Vader (mentioned above) is less than great to me because it's so very limited. I like to think that the toys "play value" is as important as it's sculpt ... after all, we're talking about "toys" still right? My biggest worry is that Hasbro seems to be afraid to simply do a "scene specific pose" without giving it a junky gimmick.

I would like to see "scene specific" figures as part of a set. I would like to have a "deluxe", neutral and yet highly articulated version of various figures that comes with a variety of accessories. I would also like to see, as a parent with a small child, figures similar to the vintage ones that are very neutral, durable and easy to stand.

[seth_quinn]

I'm gonna agree with some of the others and say, do a neutral one first then do scene specific. the neutral ones for me are a nice bit of nostalgia to the vintage figures and look great all lined up in my display case. the scene specific ones tend to be my favourites in the end though, even as a loose collector I have quite a few extras of these displayed on my desk becuase some of the sculpts are just so great. plasticfetish makes a good point, no matter what - make them easy to stand! I bet I could get that stupid potf2 stormtrooper to balance on it's round little head longer that it'll stand on it's feet.