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ACPin
11-21-2001, 07:22 AM
If only Hasbro could come up with a playset like this with lighted panels, ceiling and blast doors to boot. :cool:

A Tremor in The Force (http://www.figures.com/Features/index.html?show_article=28147&domain=sirstevesguide.com&dom=ss&domain_id=5)

ACPin
11-29-2001, 08:05 AM
Still not convinced that this will make a great playset?

Missed Opportunity (http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=ssnews2.setup&category=starwars&topic=29&show_article=36)

Rollo Tomassi
11-29-2001, 08:53 AM
I see you took my idea and put the Jedi Robe from the Ep1 Tatooine accesory pack on POTJ Old Ben. Looks pretty sweet.

JediTricks
11-30-2001, 12:48 AM
I've been nagging Hasbro for years about cool modular playsets with hallways and such, I'm still on board!

ACPin
11-30-2001, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
I see you took my idea and put the Jedi Robe from the Ep1 Tatooine accesory pack on POTJ Old Ben. Looks pretty sweet.
The first time I saw old Ben, my immediate thought was about his missing Jedi robe. When I got it, I tried the other plastic robes from the other figures if it would fit. That's the time I got the cloth robe from the accessory pack and had it on him ever since. In this case, it was also my idea through T&E of how it came to be. Then again "Great minds think alike!".

Originally posted by JediTricks
I've been nagging Hasbro for years about cool modular playsets with hallways and such, I'm still on board!
I just hope that they won't put some stupid-looking guns hooked up like what they did to the Detention Cell and Escape playset.

JediTricks
12-01-2001, 12:37 AM
The key is to not add the guns when assembling those. ;) But you're right, I hate that Hasbro feels everything has to have a stupid kiddie gimmick that is huge and ugly and out of place.

Rollo Tomassi
12-01-2001, 03:01 AM
originally posted by Rollo Tomassi in the old forums
Sectional Playsets #1: Cantina
4-20-2001 - 05:35 PM
Playsets that come in sections to keep the costs down but are specifically designed to connect into one larger playset. Each one comes with an exclusive action figure. Buy the ones you want.

Section #1: Central Bar Playset with Dannik Jeriko figure. Long and Skinny with all those tubes and pipes in the middle for making drinks. All the other sections attach around the edge. Retail $35

Section #2: Entrance gantry and steps with light and sound droid detector and BoShek(Ed Note. Hem Dazon instead!!) figure. Connects to short side of Central Bar. Retail $15

Section #3: Han/Greedo confrontation recess with Corulag spacer figure. Recreate the famous showdown with an action chair that throws Greedo from the table. Connects next to Entry gantry. Retail $15

Section #4: Stage recess area with Dice Ibegon figure. Comes with two tiers for your Bith band to play. Retail $15

Section #5: Basic Table with Tonnika Sister figure. Fill in the gaps between the specialized playsets with a basic table playset and fill it with all your figures. Retail $10

For the die hard collector a hundred dollars gets you a full size realistic diorama of Chalmun's cantina and a whole slew of new figures to populate it!! Beats the pants off the cardboard version.


Something like this??

Rollo Tomassi
12-01-2001, 03:08 AM
or this???


Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi in the old forums
Sectional Playsets #2: Jabba's Palace
4-22-2001 - 10:13 AM
Playsets that come in cheaper, easier to produce sections, but join into super dioramas. Each one comes with an exclusive new figure.


Section #1: His Excellency's Main Audience Chamber with New Jabba figure. Jabba's dias sits at one end with a real working trapdoor release under it. Slide it forward to open the working trapdoor under Luke's feet.
Retail $35.

Section #2:Han in Carbonite decoration recess with Cane Adiss figure. Attaches to the Main Audience Chamber set on the left. Has a real raising and lowering mechanism for your Carbonite Han figure. Retail $15

Section #3: Max Rebo band's performance dias with Ak-Rev figure. Includes two tiers big enough for all your band members and dancers including a giant drum set for Ak-Rev. Attaches to Main Audience Chamber on the right. Retail $15

Section#4: Entry stairway with BG-J38 Droid. Has a real archway with wind chimes and a stand for BG droid. Attaches at front right corner of Main Audience Chamber. Retail $15

Section #5: Table recesses with Jawa w/fanning leaf. Fill in the gaps around the edge of you Main Auidence Chamber. Retail $10

Once again, for a hundred bones or so, you, the die hard collector, can have a complex diorama and plenty of cool new figures to stick in it. For even more fun, use it with Jabba's Palace Door playset with one eyed security droid. And Jabba's Dungeon Sectional Playsets including Droid Workshop, Dungeon, and Rancor Pit playsets...For more information see :
Sectional Playsets #3: Jabba's Dungeon. Coming Soon...(Ed note. I never finished this one...)

Any thoughts?

Rollo Tomassi
12-01-2001, 03:13 AM
or how about this?


Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi in the old forums
Sectional Playsets #3: Cloud City Proper
4-27-2001 - 05:12 PM
Sectional playsets are sets that are sold individually to keep the price down, but connect together to form a larger playset diorama. Each set comes with an exclusive action figure.

Section #1: Landing platform with catwalk and entrance. Comes with an Exclusive Bespin Security Guard. This set can double as both the Falcon platform and you can purchase a second one for the SLAVE 1 and place it at the opposite end of your mega playset. Retail $20

Section #2: Central hallway with exclusive Alien Security Guard Utris M'tok. Comes with raised steps, elevator area and Beldon Eye Statue. All the other pieces connect to this. Retail $25

Section #3: Droid Blast antechamber with "E chu ta" droid. Blast 3PO to pieces with secret floor button! Connects to main hallway. Retail $15

Section #4: Guest Quarters with New Bespin Gown Leia sculpt. Connects to left of main hallway. Retail $15

Section #5: Banquet Hall with exclusive new resculpt of Han, or Vader or Fett...Comes with an opening door and long table full of refreshments. Connects to right of Main Hallway. Retail $20.

Section #6: Interrogation room with Torture chair and exclusive new Stormtrooper sculpt. Retail $15.

Section #7: Detension Area with Black Bespin Security Guard. Comes with slide out bed for an interrogated Solo to crash on. Retail $15.

Section #8: Side Hallway with Cloud City Citizen. Fill in the gaps with this piece. Have Luke sneak in the side way or use it to connect to Reactor core duel Sectional Playsets including Carbonite Freezing Chamber. Comes with interchangeable wall or railing to simulate Chewie, Leia, and Landos race through Cloud City. Retail $10

This one costs a little more to get the full effect (Just wait until the Death Star Sectionals!!) but for around $150 you can have a sprawling cloud city of your very own!!

How about this old pipe dream...

Rollo Tomassi
12-01-2001, 03:20 AM
..and it connects to...


Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi in the old forums
Sectional Playsets #4: Cloud City Reactor(Jedi Duel)
5-11-2001 - 12:55 AM
Sectional Playsets are sets you can buy individually to keep prices down, but connect together to make supercool dioramas. This particular playset series CAN connect to the Cloud City Proper playset if you want (and if you have enough room...) As always, each playset comes with an exclusive figure.

Section #1: Cloud City Incinerator with exclusive Ugnaught figure. Comes with a break apart IG-88 droid and moving conveyor belt. Plenty of junk lying around, too. Retail $15.

Section #2: Expanded Carbonite Chamber with Bespin Guard. Giant staircase adds on to existing Carbon Playset to recreate the Jedi Duel between Vader and Luke. Retail $20.

Section #3: Reactor Control Room with Exclusive Vader figure. Giant two-level playset comes with giant break away window and "flying" debris to knock Luke out onto outside walkway. Retail $30.

Section #4: Chasm Catwalk with exclusive Bespin Luke. Comes with "Sliced apart" piping to recreate Vader and Luke's ominous "I am your Father" scene.
Retail $20.

Section #5. Hallway playset with opening doors and interior lights. Use it to connect the other sections together. Retail $10.


There you have it. For less than a hundred sawbucks, a killer recreation of the coolest scene in cinematic history...
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RE: Sectional Playsets #4: Cloud City Reactor(Jedi Duel)
6-07-2001 - 05:05 PM
And you can place it at the end of a table, so when Luke falls, he really falls...

''Remember Sammy Jankis. Don't believe his lies.''

Rollo Tomassi
12-01-2001, 03:27 AM
And finally...


Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi in the old forums
Sectional Playsets #5: Droid Control Ship
6-07-2001 - 05:01 PM
Sectional Playsets are smaller, more affordable playsets that can be purchased separately and combined together for a super cool diorama. Each one comes with an exclusive figure.


Section #1: Bridge. Comes with an Exclusive Tey How figure. Two leveled with a control chair for droid activation, a light-up "holographic" stand to place Sidious, Maul, or Qui-Gon(?) holograms on, and an interchangable viewscreen to communicate with Amidala. Retail $30.

Section #2: Bridge Doors. With exclusive Qui-Gon "shivving" action. Connected to the Bridge Playset. Two sets of doors close off the bridge, while Qui-Gon 'burns" through the door. Retail $20.

Section #3: Hallway Type 1. Used to curve out from either the left or the right or the Bridge Doors playset. Comes with two PK droids. Can be connected to other hallway sets or playsets. Retail $15.

Section #4: Hallway Type 2. Straight Hallway across from Bridge Playset. Comes with Rolling Droideka and "Shielded" Droideka. 12" long with doors halfway along on either side. Can be connected to other hallway sets or playsets. Retail $15.

Section #5: Conference Room. Either for the Jedi Arrival or the Sith Conference. Connects to the opposite end of the curved hallway. Has a long table and chairs and Plexi windows. Comes with an exclusive Hath Monchar action figure. Retail $20.

Section #6: Engineering Room. Random room with various consoles and cargo crates that connects to dead end hallways. Has a Plexi window for Anakin to "fly"past. Comes with an Exclusive Security Droid. Retail $20.

Ahhhhh, another spectacular playset for the price of an AT-AT or Royal Starship (before clearance).

Whew! And I seriously had more. A Death Star II throne room. A Lars moisture farm. An Echo base with med station and control room. And the whopper...a Super Death Star playset with no less than 18 different sections (including a gargantuan Docking bay 327 which would hold a Millenium Falcon and/or Imperial Shuttle)!!

Rollo Tomassi
12-01-2001, 03:32 AM
By the way, anybody who wants to put that cloth robe on POTJ Old Ben. His arms are a little big and the robe gets a little tight on his plastic "sleeves" but don't let that discourage you from having the coolest Obi Wan Kenobi figure ever!:)

GNT
12-01-2001, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by ACPin
Still not convinced that this will make a great playset?

Missed Opportunity (http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=ssnews2.setup&category=starwars&topic=29&show_article=36)

oh hell yeah! wouldn' mind getting that

ACPin
12-06-2001, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
By the way, anybody who wants to put that cloth robe on POTJ Old Ben. His arms are a little big and the robe gets a little tight on his plastic "sleeves" but don't let that discourage you from having the coolest Obi Wan Kenobi figure ever!:)
Ben is out!
Obi-Wan Eludes Capture (http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=ssnews2.setup&category=starwars&topic=29&show_article=38)

Yes, the blast doors do open! :D

Rollo Tomassi
02-28-2002, 12:07 PM
Hey. Look what I found. Makes me want to come up with more ideas.

Rollo Tomassi
02-28-2002, 12:25 PM
Section#1: The Elevator. Comes with an Exclusive Royal Guard. Real opening elevator doors and the small catwalk connecting to the main throne room. Has break away rails for the final conflict between Vader, Luke , and the Emperor. Retail $20.

Section #2: Generator Controls. The center section of the throne room with two generator control hubs. Connects the elevator section to the main staircase. Comes with an exclusive Imperial Dignitary. Retail $20.

Section #3: The Main Staircase. The opulent staircase and upper platform. Comes with the Emperor's threat board and a second exclusive Dignitary. Retail $20.

Section #4: The Imperial Throne. Connects to the main staircase. Comes with the Emperor's throne and the giant window behind him. Also comes with a Deluxe Soft Goods Emperor with knee articulation so he can stand or sit on his throne. Retail $20.

Section #5: Catwalks. Connect to either side of the throne room playset. Collapse after Vader "throws" his saber into the support struts. Retail $15.

stillakid
02-28-2002, 01:59 PM
I'll still campaign for my all-in-one Death Star playset.

Roughly, the same height as the vintage Death Star playset. When closed up, it's a globe with detailing that makes it a fine display Death Star like has never before been created. It opens into 4 wedges, each with interconnected play areas.

With a playset this size, all of the attributes of the ANH battlestation as well as the ROTJ additions could easily be included adding tremendous value, both for play and economy.

It would be slightly more expensive than than the typical cardboard cutout playsets that we've been offered, but the cache and originality of it would attract young and old alike.

While the above ideas of having Hasbro release separate interlocking pieces isn't a bad idea, I don't think that they would be nearly as marketable as one giant kick-*** looking Death Star sitting on a toy shelf. If you build it, they will come.

LTBasker
02-28-2002, 03:31 PM
I wouldn't mind it if Hasbro took Art Asylum's idea and make a deluxe series with inter-connecting playset pieces from each figure. They could do figures with a lot of articulation so you can really play with them in the playset and there would be different series to do, it would especially make a great thing for kids AND collectors because they could make more resculpts of figures that would be enjoyable. :cool:

Rollo Tomassi
03-01-2002, 11:02 AM
Stillakid, it it the whole globe or just the top half? if its the whole globe. how do you stop it from rolling? What do you do with the wasted space at the top and bottom of the wedges that are too small for any play value? What's in each of the four wedges? What are the dimensions? Foot tall? three foot tall? Four vintage Death Star playsets makes foe a HUGE box and a hefty price tag. I'd say between $400 and $500 for something that big and complex. If you didn't skip on it's sturdiness/playability, that is.

stillakid
03-01-2002, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Stillakid, it it the whole globe or just the top half? if its the whole globe. how do you stop it from rolling? What do you do with the wasted space at the top and bottom of the wedges that are too small for any play value? What's in each of the four wedges? What are the dimensions? Foot tall? three foot tall? Four vintage Death Star playsets makes foe a HUGE box and a hefty price tag. I'd say between $400 and $500 for something that big and complex. If you didn't skip on it's sturdiness/playability, that is.

Whole globe with a slightly flattened bottom. Imagine taking the vintage Death Star playset and adding a curved "shell" to it. That would be one of the wedges.

I think that it would work out best to have one half be one of the pieces then split the other half into two wedges. The side that is an entire half could have longer areas in it, like hallways with blastdoors or even a hangar bay. The wedges could have the Emperor's chamber at the top and the trash compactor at the bottom. Suffice it to say that there is a lot of room to integrate many of the favorite Death Star attributes. The vintage playset had a 21" tall elevator which could be used as a central "core" to connect the pieces together. The entire playset would likely top out around 2' tall (and around) once you put the curved shell on it.

That price tag you quoted is a bit high I think. Remember, they charge whatever they want to...whatever they think they can get. A 3" action figure doesn't cost anywhere near $7 bucks to design, manufacture, and distribute when they make a lot of them. They charge that money because they know they can get it. Look at the price drops in the Queen's ship, the 12" Dewback, the 12" "pegwarmers", pegwarmer's in general. Somebody is still making a little profit at those enormous price cuts. That's why they stop dropping the price tag at a certain point, otherwise they'd just give them away for free. So this playset might have a real cost of $50 to $75 to produce and distribute, which they would inflate to around $150 retail. That is a lot of money, but people are generally willing to accept the cost if they perceive the value in the product. I of course guessed at those costs, but I averaged out what I think is the real cost (lower) and what I think they'd ask for (higher). My honest opinion is that it would cost less per unit to make and distribute and a fair retail price would be around $100. I factored in the greed-profit motive.

I'd buy it and I believe that a lot of other people would too. The Queen's ship sits on clearance shelves as we speak (I believe) due to a poor lead in (TPM wasn't as good as the classic trilogy). A really cool looking classic trilogy toy will get the parent's attention (late 20's to late 30's) (nearly everybody liked the classic trilogy) and no kid could resist a toy that huge. It would sell out. Almost guaranteed.

Rollo Tomassi
03-01-2002, 04:04 PM
My price might have been too high. I was basing it on $100 for a vintage DS sized playset, then multiplying by the 4 wedges.

The vintage set was only 21" high?? I remember it being 5 ft. tall.;)

How many scenes could you fit in that area without compromising the realism of the scene?

Docking Bay 327 (the big problem)
DB327 control room (the red room)
The Elevator Bank
The Outer Detention area
The Detention Block hallway
Garbage Chute
The Tractor Beam Controls
The Rope Swing
The Vader/Ben Duel
The Blast Doors

Plus various hallways that Ben sneaks through or Han howls through.

Add to that the Throne room, which from the post above is a giant playset unto itself.

And finally, the nature of the design excludes 50% of the play space because it has to represent the "Outside" of the Death Star.

stillakid
03-01-2002, 04:54 PM
Just like an actual movie set, so much more could be done with independent playsets, so naturally there would some compromise within each "scene" for an all-in-one playset.

I haven't drawn plans up yet (but maybe soon!), but I'll try to give some written clues as to this hypothetical dream.

Docking Bay 327 (the big problem): This would be located on the lower portion of the complete "half." Like so many playsets before this, sadly because of size restrictions, the Falcon would have to be represented by a photo backdrop, but there really is no way to squeeze the Falcon Toy or the Shuttle Tyderium (sp?) into a hangar-type playset that isn't absolutely gargantuan. The good news is that the "room" could have blast doors off to one side for recreation of the duel. If Hasbro went all out, they could include a floor panel that slid out from the "half" to give more floor space to line up Stormtroopers on.

DB327 control room (the red room): Right above the Hangar space, in the mid-section of the "half."

The Elevator Bank: The central core of the entire playset, constructed in the same way as the vintage model. It integrates the elevator action as well as the tractor beam control walkway.

The Outer Detention area: Just above the Garbage Compactor.

The Detention Block hallway: In the next wedge over and on the same level as the Outer Detention Area.

Garbage Chute: In the wedge opposite and just above the one with the Compactor as part of the Outer Detention Area.

The Tractor Beam Controls: As above, integrated into the cental elevator column.

The Rope Swing: An abitrary placement of an extended bridge from one wedge to another or to the central column, ala vintage version.

The Vader/Ben Duel: Lower level of the "half," off to the side of the hangar bay area.

The Blast Doors: Integrated into hangar Bay.

Plus various hallways that Ben sneaks through or Han howls through: N/A

Add to that the Throne room, which from the post above is a giant playset unto itself: The entire upper level of all three pieces (one half, two wedges)

And finally, the nature of the design excludes 50% of the play space because it has to represent the "Outside" of the Death Star: Some of the "rooms" would need straight walls, so indeed some of that trapped curved space would be lost to outright play, however it could be utilized as storage and/or use breakaway panels for guntowers to pop out of or something.

I've been playing around with the vintage Death Star and trying to "connect" the playset pieces that we got a couple years ago with some success. It takes a little reconfiguration and some extra supports but I've managed to rig up the Detention Hallway so that the heroes can really fall into the bright orange compactor. The Rope Swing is a little tougher to integrate into the old design, but it can go just about anywhere so long as it gets supported so that it is on "level 2." I'm still trying to figure out the best way to remove the gun emplacement on the top level and replace it with the Emperor's throne. Doing all that stuff got me thinking about a well-designed playset like the one I'm suggesting. I think that it is possible and for a reasonable cost. But with the way Hasbro feels about releasing the Shuttle, I don't forsee any realistic hope of it ever happening from them. Looks like a custom job!

Rollo Tomassi
03-01-2002, 05:12 PM
I was thinking insteads of a "slide out" docking bay floor, how about a "panel" that separates the two wedge quarters from the wedge half. When you open up the DS, the panel folds down to reveal a docking bay floor. Hinged on the edge of this is a "hangar bay entrance" that folds up and locks in between the two quarters. Two feet x Two feet might almost be big enough for a shuttle or a Falcon to stand in. just an idea.

It's lookin' good, though. I can sort of see it in my mind.

stillakid
03-01-2002, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
I was thinking insteads of a "slide out" docking bay floor, how about a "panel" that separates the two wedge quarters from the wedge half. When you open up the DS, the panel folds down to reveal a docking bay floor. Hinged on the edge of this is a "hangar bay entrance" that folds up and locks in between the two quarters. Two feet x Two feet might almost be big enough for a shuttle or a Falcon to stand in. just an idea.

It's lookin' good, though. I can sort of see it in my mind.

That's a good idea! There's probably a way to work in a flourescent "magnetic hangar bay" frame as well to complete the look.

Rollo Tomassi
03-21-2002, 06:09 PM
Hey! SithLord0498! Something like this?


Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Section#1: The Elevator. Comes with an Exclusive Royal Guard. Real opening elevator doors and the small catwalk connecting to the main throne room. Has break away rails for the final conflict between Vader, Luke , and the Emperor. Retail $20.

Section #2: Generator Controls. The center section of the throne room with two generator control hubs. Connects the elevator section to the main staircase. Comes with an exclusive Imperial Dignitary. Retail $20.

Section #3: The Main Staircase. The opulent staircase and upper platform. Comes with the Emperor's threat board and a second exclusive Dignitary. Retail $20.

Section #4: The Imperial Throne. Connects to the main staircase. Comes with the Emperor's throne and the giant window behind him. Also comes with a Deluxe Soft Goods Emperor with knee articulation so he can stand or sit on his throne. Retail $20.

Section #5: Catwalks. Connect to either side of the throne room playset. Collapse after Vader "throws" his saber into the support struts. Retail $15. :D

Eternal Padawan
05-13-2002, 10:48 PM
I just got a vintage Y-Wing off of ebay and he threw in one of those old Micro Collection Death Star playsets. Those things are cool! They had an Echo base set ans a Cloud City set too If I remember. I bet if they retooled them up to 3 3/4 size they'd sell like hotcakes! If they tripled the size, it would end up being 18 x 15 x 6 for the Death Star Escape Action playset with a 3x3x18 elevator to go along with it. The Ion Cannon set would probabaly be a lot bigger but it would be cool.