08-18-2003, 01:59 PM
I was just wondering if there are any reference materials or EU publications that reveal what the jedi starfighter droid looks like below the head. If he had any sort of body at all, I think this make a cool custom. I looked all over the place and couldn't find any info on this. Any resources or pics would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
08-18-2003, 02:39 PM
Originally it was supposed to be revealed to having a truncated body. Basically it was supposed to be a dome and I think treads was the idea. But since they never had him leave the ship, they had him just be a dome that connects to the ship. Though in the cut Jedi Hanger scene you can see regular Astromech's sitting by some of the Fighters. I assue that they disengage the head from the body and attach it to the starfighter. :)
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
08-19-2003, 12:20 AM
Treads would look cool. I think I may do that. Thanks for the tip.
08-19-2003, 12:37 PM
It's been revealed in HYPERSPACE that R4-P17 will have a small role in Episode III. They have given him a body. They said to let the EU writers determine how he managed to get a body since it was previously determined he was just a dome on Obi-Wan's Delta-7.
08-19-2003, 03:20 PM
They Cloned R2 but he wasn't very head strong. ;)
Wonder if they'll give him an R2 or R4 head on his body, or if the R2 dome will just drop out of the Fighter onto the body.
The whole R2 dome on treads thing sounds weird, like one of the cronies out of a Mega Man game. They were like really small moles with hardhat's on, very freaky.
08-19-2003, 07:12 PM
Here's a little info on R4, I always wondered why Obi called his R2 astro droid R4, well here's the story. I don't think these R units are removable, at least not for running around.
Astromech Gallery - R4-P17
**A faithful astromech built into Obi-Wan Kenobi's assigned Jedi starfighter, R4-P17 assisted the Jedi Knight during his mission to track down Senator Padmé Amidala's attacker. The truncated, dome-headed droid served as onboard astrogator, technician and communications specialist for Kenobi.
R4-P17 started off as a traditional R4 unit, complete with the characteristic conical head, when she was nearly destroyed in a trash compactor mishap on Gyndine. While inspecting the Jedi customizations of the Delta-7 designs, Anakin Skywalker happened upon the wrecked little droid and rebuilt it. The new R4-P17 sported an R2-series dome and would eventually become the prototype for other integrated droid navigators aboard the Jedi Aethersprite fighters.
In early iterations of the Episode II script, R4-P17 was to have a scene wherein it wandered away from the landed Jedi starfighter and was attacked by weird insectoid creatures called Rogas. The scene was never filmed -- in fact, the droid's full body look was never finalized. The concept artists developed a tiny body for the droid that would accommodate its placement aboard the starfighter. When this scene was scrapped, it was decided that R4-P17 would instead be a permanent fixture aboard the ship.
THE ORIGIN OF R4-P17
By Don Bies
SO here we are on the second day George is touring the sets in Sydney...I'm asked to show him how well R2 will now plug into the data ports on Padme's ship. Justin Dix, part of my ace crew, director/writer of "Bounty Trails" and HUGE Star Wars fan, joins me on set. We set up the little droid, George and Rick walk in, and R2 performs his part flawlessly. "Great" says the understated flannelled one. Rick reminds him about the droid for the Jedi Starfighter. GEORGE
"Oh yeah, we need a droid for Obi-Wan's ship." DON
"No problem...That's R4, right?"
(Fully understanding the established, official astromech naming convention)
"Well, R4 is the head that's shaped like a lampshade." In retrospect, perhaps not the most awe-inspiring description. GEORGE
"Oh no, I don't want that one."
(Trying to salvage astromech integrity) "You know what would be cool--I have one of the clear domes, you know the one where you can see inside..."
(The R3 series for the un-initiated.)
(unimpressed) "No...can't we just take an R2 head and paint it?" At this point, I hear the voices of millions of R2 fans cry out...but the set-up line is just TOO good. I've waited a long time to say this...:
"Well George, YOU can do anything YOU want..." Of course, he is oblivious to my comment, and forges ahead. GEORGE
"Yeah, just take an R2 head and paint it." DON
(Dutifully) "What color?"
"Let's see...the ship is red, so paint it red." I try to interject some verisimilitude... DON
"Paint the blue parts red? THAT would look like the red R2 toy packaged with the Queen's ship*from Ep1."
"No, whatever is silver paint red and paint the blue parts silver." DON
"You get that?"
George and Rick leave.
And that's how R4-P17 came to be. Thought it was more planned out, didn't you?
Several weeks later, before we shot any R4 scenes, Howard Roffman, head of Lucasfilm Licensing, visited the set. With the best interests of R2 fans in mind, I take him aside.
"You know there is this droid R4-something, right?" HOWARD
"Yes, on Obi-Wan's ship."
"You know it's just an R2 head painted red, right?" HOWARD
"You know there's this whole naming convention to the astromechs, right?"
"Can't you get George to call it something else, like one we haven't seen--like R6?"
Howard chuckles and walks away.
I guess I'll try and brush up on my Jedi mind tricks. --Don Bies
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