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Lowly Bantha Cleaner
08-21-2003, 10:52 PM
I have a little bit of my problem with my weight, and it is the opposite problem most people have. I weigh 145 pounds, and for a person my height and frame, it is probably 25-30 pounds or so underweight. People have called me "Pelican Legs," "Ichabod Crane," or "Bony Bob" (which I have no idea where the name Bob came from) because I am tall and lanky.

During the summer, I took some advice and did a lot of exercise. I went from almost a zero amount of exercise to almost an hour everyday. My goal was to build muscle mass and thus gain weight. I did a lot of running and jogging (over 1 1/2 miles every night). I also did a ton of stretching and pull-ups. As I result, I am a little buffer than I was before. The net result, is I did not gain even a pound, and I fear I may have even lost weight.

The obvious answer I get is to eat more, and I do think I eat a lot. My metabolism is very kind to me, for I seem to burn off what ever my excess caloric intake is. I may not be eating the right foods though.

The exercise has not been a total failure though. It appears I have grown almost an inch despite the fact it had been since high school since I last grew. For 23 years I was always shorter than my twin brother, but now I got him by barely a half-inch. :)

Any advice you can give me is appreciated.

DarthChuckMc
08-21-2003, 10:58 PM
Do what I do.....eat 2 Chick-fil-a biscuits and a large Dr. Pepper for breakfast.....2 McDonald's Cheeseburger extra onion and a McValue Fry, and a large Dr. Pepper for lunch, and at about 9pm everynight, go to Krystal's/White Castle, get a 3 Krystal's with cheese value meal upsized witha Dr. Pepper, 2 Krystal Chik, and a small order of Chikin Bites.....


You'll gain weight in no time...I PROMISE.





ps.....This is sad, but I am actually on my way to Krystal's right now to get dinner.....at MIDNIGHT!!.....and then I'll go to sleep right after I eat.

No wonder I'm tipping the scales at 250......I'm such a fata**.

bobafrett
08-21-2003, 11:54 PM
I actually have the opposite problem, I am a yo yo dieter. I can lose weight after much exercise and changing my eating habits, only to get bored with the foods and exercise and slip back into my old ways. I end up gaining the weight back and sometimes more. I just got up around 218 pounds. I saw a picture of myself from a party I went to a couple of months back, and I could see my gut sticking out. I also noticed that I wasn't able to get my armor on my legs closed. I have been doing one to two hours of cardio everyday for the last 6 weeks and I managed to lose 11 pounds so far. Today I did some upper body workouts, and tomorrow I'll do some more cardio. I work 8 hours a week at the local Y.M.C.A. and the one benefit I get is a free membership. I'm taking advantage of it. Once I get down to 165-170, I plan on rewarding myself with purchasing a kilt!

As far as your problem with packing on muscle, you might want to join a gym or Y or something that has free weights, like dumbbells and weight plates. You'll want to do 5 sets of reps for each muscle group. Start out light, doing an exercise, lets say bicep curls and doing 12 curls. Wait one minute, then get the next higher weight and do 10 reps, then 1 minute rest, higher weight, 8 reps, then 6 reps, then go lighter and do 12 reps, followed by a super set of 12 reps of a different exercise for the biceps. Then you'll want to rest 2 minutes and repeat the above for your Chest, shoulders, back, biceps and triceps. This shouldn't take you more than 50 minutes. You will do this twice a week alternating it with leg exercises. You will spend on day working your quads, hamstrings, calves then abs.

If you are just doing cardio, then you will only lose weight and tone muscle instead of bulking up. This is why I have been doing so much cardio, sometimes up to an hour and a half a day. I need to lose weight, you don't. The above method which I described is better covered in the book "Body-for-Life" by Bill Phillips. The book also covers how to build muscle and gain weight. I'm attaching a couple photos of me from when I entered the BfL competition. I was about 157 pounds, and I had ab muscle for the first time in my life.

I hope this helps. The comitment is up to you.

Week 1 Monday upper body
Tuesday cardio
Wednesday lower body/abs
Thursday cardio
Friday upper body
Saturday cardio

Week 2 Monday lower body/abs
Tuesday cardio
Wednesday upper body
Thursday cardio
Friday lower body/abs
Saturday cardio

Week 3 repeat week 1

Week 4 repeat week 2 and so on............You can only change yourself, no one can do it for you! :D

Jargo
08-22-2003, 09:07 AM
hmmm, exercise. move the mouse and click, move the mouse and click. or type the words and click enter, type thew words and click enter. lift mug of hot beverage to mouth and drink, lift the mug of hot beverage to mouth and drink. Now sleep....

Actually although I don;t do much in the way of exercise and sit at the PC far too much i'm not really putting on weight because my answer to inactivity is to lower my intake of food. The more i do the more i eat. And you can get a good guide as to what to eat by what you get a craving for. After I've been out for a long walk with the dog i often get a craving for carbohydrate rich food and sweet food which tells me my energy levels are low. Or sometimes I get a craving for something salty or protein rich like fish or egg. I kind of eat what i need not what i like.
I've put a few pounds on lately because of medication. Side effects are crap and the chemicals play around with lipid levels. Fatty deposits and stuff. So i can feel the real muscle under it all kinda scrawny and taut and sinewy like I've always been but there's just this layer of cellulite over the top that's kinda weird and sort of floats like a layer of jelly has been injected under my skin. Funny thing is that it's only on my torso. My arms and legs are still the same as they've always been, there's no facial weight gain either.
I dunno, maybe i sound like a nutter mouthing off, (nothing new there then) but I would say that you should look at your family and see if there's anyone else who was tall and slender. It might be something you can't combat if it's genetic and there's nothing at all wrong with being slender. It's tough being tall or short and either under weight or over weight. Society tells us we must conform to a certqain body type and it's easy to feel that we don't fit that criteria in many ways, it can become a burden when peers who do fir the type poke fun. Making progress and getting fit is enough i feel. Don't let anyone else tell you how you should look do it for yourself, If you can be comfortable with yourself in the mirror then that's all that counts. Athletic and lean is cool and you don't have to bulk up at all. You're young and you sound healthy. I'd say that's enough. Something to be proud of in age of slobbish corpulance.
And try not to beat yourself up over the whole issue, I'd kill to be tall slender or not. I'm 5'6" and feel like a midget, this extra fatty stuff makes me feel miserable because I know it's not the real me. But I leave the house and i think to myself, screw what anyone else thinks, I'm me and I'm true to myself and that's all that matters. I'm not letting anyone dictate to me by jibes or insults how I should look. They either accept me for who i am or they can go hang.

Sorry, this probably wasn't what you were after but i just had to say my piece. I hate body fascism. Who the hell is anyone to tell YOU how you should look?

mabudonicus
08-22-2003, 10:14 AM
Yeah, what he said...

LBC, I get told I'm too skinny or whatever all the time... I eat healthy and drink beer pretty often, and don;t exercise too much (although riding a bicycle instead of driving is deceptively beneficial- you don't really notice you've done a couple hours of cardio just shopping or whatever)
I'm 6 feet tall and weigh between 170 and 180 pretty much all the time... last summer I stopped eating for a while and lost like 30 pounds (the hard way, mind) and I KNEW I was underweight, but after eating as much as I could for a couple months and working at a callcentre (zero exercise) I was back up to 178 or so, and can't seem to get past it... being vegetarian/vegan doesn't make excess weight easy to gain....

Ya wanna gain some weight??? Why not got to your family business once a week and go to TOWN:)

Seriously, it sounds like yer healthy, man, if all else fails why not just develop some quick snappy retorts for name-callers, like mebbe "$@% YOU" or "don't make me break my bony foot off in your %^$@"

scruffziller
08-22-2003, 11:04 AM
I have a little bit of my problem with my weight, and it is the opposite problem most people have. I weigh 145 pounds, and for a person my height and frame, it is probably 25-30 pounds or so underweight. People have called me "Pelican Legs," "Ichabod Crane," or "Bony Bob" (which I have no idea where the name Bob came from) because I am tall and lanky.

During the summer, I took some advice and did a lot of exercise. I went from almost a zero amount of exercise to almost an hour everyday. My goal was to build muscle mass and thus gain weight. I did a lot of running and jogging (over 1 1/2 miles every night). I also did a ton of stretching and pull-ups. As I result, I am a little buffer than I was before. The net result, is I did not gain even a pound, and I fear I may have even lost weight.

The obvious answer I get is to eat more, and I do think I eat a lot. My metabolism is very kind to me, for I seem to burn off what ever my excess caloric intake is. I may not be eating the right foods though.

The exercise has not been a total failure though. It appears I have grown almost an inch despite the fact it had been since high school since I last grew. For 23 years I was always shorter than my twin brother, but now I got him by barely a half-inch. :)

Any advice you can give me is appreciated.
Man I would surely glad trade places with you. Look below.

http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2575










Well that was back in 1999, I am not as bad now since I have been walking a mile and a half every day.

stillakid
08-22-2003, 11:11 AM
Sorry, this probably wasn't what you were after but i just had to say my piece. I hate body fascism. Who the hell is anyone to tell YOU how you should look?

Good question! Can we discuss that instead?


See, I've always taken the view that while your above statement is fundamentally the way to go, we humans also need to acknowledge that we are wired to be attracted to beauty.

This is the argument that "big and beautiful" women like to use to justify their excessive weight. Well, fine. Yeah, sure, anyone should feel free to look as they wish...but, the flipside is that we then shouldn't feel sleighted or surprised when people treat us differently (ie. the girls don't want to go out with you or you are turned down for a job). It's just human nature and no amount of self-rationalization (concerning making yourself feel better) or blame (trying to make others feel bad for being "superficial" or other such nonsense) will change that fact.

So the answer is to either be yourself and accept whatever ramifications come from it (ie, don't get the kind of mate you really want or settle for a different job) or take those extra steps to transform yourself (ie. lose/gain weight, different hair style, plastic surgery, etc...).

Doing whatever we need to do to achieve the desired results should be welcomed and not maligned by anyone. The opposite holds true as well though...people who don't work to "improve" themselves shouldn't be maligned, however they must accept the way that other humans respond to them and not act superior and accuse them of being superficial. There is more to life than looks, however appearance is still a very large part of who we are.

Jargo
08-22-2003, 11:19 AM
Hmm yeah well that's possibly a good idea for a thread but the intention of my post was to make LBC feel a little better about being LBC. Might not read that way but it was. If we're going to talk sociology and psychology it might be better to start a new thread.

stillakid
08-22-2003, 11:31 AM
Hmm yeah well that's possibly a good idea for a thread but the intention of my post was to make LBC feel a little better about being LBC. Might not read that way but it was. If we're going to talk sociology and psychology it might be better to start a new thread.


True :) . But as LBC's situation illustrates, we aren't all created equal and to achieve the "optimum" state of attractiveness (whatever that is), some of us have to work harder at it. Fortunately (I suppose) I have the same basic problem as LBC, more or less. Others have to lose weight and have to work harder than others to do it. But the answer isn't to simply write off the perceptions of society in order to justify our own lack of commitment to get to the gym and/or put the junk food down.

Changing one's image goes beyond the technical requirements of what to eat and what to do when working out. It also takes a mental adjustment to accept the realities of being a human being in the society that we live in. Without that, a person can quickly become discouraged with the lack of quick results and then revert into the familiar and easy path of blaming society for being superficial.

bobafrett
08-22-2003, 12:13 PM
True :) . But as LBC's situation illustrates, we aren't all created equal and to achieve the "optimum" state of attractiveness (whatever that is), some of us have to work harder at it. Fortunately (I suppose) I have the same basic problem as LBC, more or less. Others have to lose weight and have to work harder than others to do it. But the answer isn't to simply write off the perceptions of society in order to justify our own lack of commitment to get to the gym and/or put the junk food down.

Changing one's image goes beyond the technical requirements of what to eat and what to do when working out. It also takes a mental adjustment to accept the realities of being a human being in the society that we live in. Without that, a person can quickly become discouraged with the lack of quick results and then revert into the familiar and easy path of blaming society for being superficial.

I've been working at the Y.M.C.A. for eight years now. I see all sorts of people come and go. I've seen people who come in with good intentions of working out, but most lose interest quickly when they don't see the results in 2 or 3 weeks. I've also seen members who have been there for years and still look the same as they did, no increase in strength no change in their body mass. I also see guys who come in and workout daily and do have the musclular arms and chest, and abs to show for their efforts. Myself, I've been known to workout until I see the benefits of my hard work, only to become bored, or busy with some other project (When I was doing the Body-for-Life, I was working 70 hours a week), or I simply would burnout. But one has to set their minds to either want to make the change, or that they aren't going to mind what people may say about them. If you do decide to change the way you look, you should do it for you, and not because of what some one else may think about you. I made that mistake when a former girlfriend of mine told me that I had lost some of my muscle after we broke up, so I went and worked out, got buff only to have her not even look at me or acknowledge the changes I had made. I found that I am happier when I do things for myself and not try to make someone else like me for something that I am not.

[DSS]Pedr0
08-22-2003, 12:29 PM
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That Is The Ticket :D Works For Me

bobafrett
08-22-2003, 12:40 PM
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That Is The Ticket :D Works For Me

Yes, but then you only gain weight in your gut. Sure, I enjoy a beer every once in awhile, but I work out more the next day!

stillakid
08-22-2003, 01:47 PM
Pedr0']Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor Liquor

That Is The Ticket :D Works For Me


Liquor? I don't even know her. :Pirate:

El Chuxter
08-22-2003, 01:57 PM
I think it's pretty ironic how most people know it's rude and mean to make fun of an overweight person because of their weight, but wouldn't think twice about doing the same to an underweight person.

LBC, you probably have an unusually high metabolism rate. That's been my problem for all my life. I've tried weight gain formula, I've tried working out nonstop, etc. I can eat only one meal of soup a day for a week, or I can have three meals daily of two cheesburgers, fries, soda, and ice cream, and there's no difference one way or the other at the end of the week. A couple of years ago, I finally decided to just live a fairly healthy lifestyle, eat what I want, and not worry about it.

If this is the case, you may not be able to gain a lot of weight (at least unless your metabolism slows down at some point), but there's a bright side. As a friend of mine with the same situation once said, you can get drunk, sober up, and get drunk again, repeating as desired throughout the evening. (Okay, maybe not the healthiest bright side, but. . . . )

darthvyn
08-22-2003, 02:00 PM
the best way to pack on muscle pounds (which is what you should be striving for...) is a high protein diet. i'm slowly getting into a "lifestyle" diet called "neanderthin" or the cave man diet... the way i see it, and the way the book goes too, is that sugars and starches are bad for you, so how come carbohydrates, which are made of the same elements, are okay?

you are what you eat, and you should eat what you are... though preferably not humans... :D

if you eat animal meat, including the small amount of fat that you should have, you have two effects - your body starts metabolizing YOUR animal fat, instead of storing it, and building more muscle utilizing the protein...

it might not be for everyone, but check out the book, it's called neanderthin. the guy who wrote it was supposedly diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in college, and later in life diabetes. he started eating this way, and both went into remission. the basis of the book is that our bodies haven't evolved as fast as our agriculture has, and that we aren't eating the correct foods for our nutritional needs...

stillakid
08-22-2003, 02:10 PM
I think it's pretty ironic how most people know it's rude and mean to make fun of an overweight person because of their weight, but wouldn't think twice about doing the same to an underweight person.


Dare I say, Callista Flockhart? Lara Flynn Boyle? Brittany Murphy?


Beyond having the look as if you're fresh from a POW camp, there is nothing significantly unhealthy about being a bit underweight. However, there remains to be significant evidence regarding the myriad of problems an overweight person could develop. Everything from diabetes to blown knees.

And, yes, as stated, some people have it easier than others which only means that the overweight person has to work that much harder to stay trim and fit. Fair? No, but who ever said life was fair. Whether it means a person just has to stop the daily McDonald's visits or go so far as getting the stomach stapled if "normal" methods of weight loss aren't working, people are fundamentally different and extra effort is often required. And that's where that level of committment and the mindset comes in. The question becomes, "How bad do you want it?"

JediTricks
08-22-2003, 07:51 PM
LBC, my mom is a nutritional specialist and a former amateur bodybuilder, it sounds like the thing you need is to carb-load. Bodybuilders go with a high-carb diet, they powerload naked spaghetti right before working out. Try to use long-chain carbohydrates, not just simple sugars. Bagels and spaghetti are what a lot of bodybuilders eat that want to put on mass, the ones that can afford it actually get special versions that are higher in clean carbs. Also, a little advice about sports drinks - none are created equal, but some can really help you work out and keep your weight balanced while others can simply fill you up with useless simple carbs and tons of salt -- for example, look at the difference between the top 2 national products: Gatorade has tons of sodium (more than you really should have) and only uses simple carbs in the form of sugar, while Powerade (made by Coca-Cola) has less sodium and long-chain carbs but costs the same and does more for you.

Protein is also important, but a lot of products out there have too much protein which is useless and can even have negative effects. 10g to 20g is pretty much all you should have per feeding (even before working out). Also, instead of doing 3 normal-sized meals a day, consider switching to 5 smaller meals a day (not constant snacking though).

Another thing you may want to try is to eat something with a little more fat on it than you want and work out only for 10 minutes at a time - thus using the calories but not the fat itself (that would kick in in another 5 to 7 minutes). You won't build as much muscle mass this way, but you'll add weight without it being just beer belly.

Also, make sure you ARE having enough food intake, this is crucial for someone who doesn't normally work out. Without enough fuel (in the form of carbs from food), your body will actually start eating the proteins in your muscles for the energy it needs to do the workout and you'll risk actually getting SMALLER this way as well as hurting yourself.

InsaneJediGirl
08-22-2003, 08:20 PM
I've had a few friends who played sports and needed to put on weight so they doubled their food intake and drank a Slim-Fast with lunch and dinner(extra calories).It worked,but I dont know the long-term effects.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
08-22-2003, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the myriad of advice guys. I appreciate the number of responses.

There is a lot of information to digest, but here goes:


1) My diet could probably use a little more starchy foods. I do know of athletes who bulk up on pasta and bread before certain matches or competitions. Right now, I snack on junk food throughout the day and my lunch and dinner is comparatively light to what it should be. I rarely have seconds, contrast that to my dad who when he has only seconds, he is probably not hungry (I will talk more about him in a second).

2) Exercise is something that I do not want to give up, even though I fear it may have caused some weight loss. I have never really had an exercise regiment in my life up until this summer, and presently I feel like I am in the best shape of my life. I do notice my muscles have gone from nonexistent to seen, I probably have significantly relaxed my resting heart rate, I've noticed my breathing has improved and feel great overall. As Bobafrett mentioned, I should concentrate on my upper body rather cardio if I want to build muscle mass. While I do not own any weights, I will probably have to concentrate on doing push-ups and pull/chin-ups (I even bought a bar from Galyan's yesterday).

3) While I am called those nicknames mentioned in my previous post (i.e. Pelican Legs) I am not bothered or teased by them. I definitely prefer my problem to the other problem people have with weight. Whenever the subject is brought up at home or work, I always hear people telling me that I am lucky and have no right to complain. To which I agree somewhat, however, when I do look in the mirror, I see an image of an Ethopian staring back at me. For years I never cared of my appearance, but now I am starting to become rather vain. Which brings me to the argument that Jargo and others made, to which I should subscribe to, and that is, I have to be happy with myself and accept the way I am made. If my new experiment doesn't work out, then I shouldn't fret about it and be thankful for who I am.

Going back to my father, I found out that he had the same problem as myself when he was younger. My grandmother told me stories of how he was given Castor Oil in order to pack on a few pounds, but nothing ever really worked. I can attest to that looking back through old pictures. Nowadays, things have changed. I remember while in his 40s he put on a lot of weight. Not too much, but enough in where he was above average for his frame. About 5 years ago, he quit smoking at the advice of his doctors, and soon after he ballooned in weight. He is now past 300 lbs. You wonder if genetics will be cruel to me? I got a couple of things going for me, and that is, according to my family members, my dad always had a big appetite but never put on the weight. I wouldn't say that I have one. Plus my dad has no willpower when it comes to food; he eats what he wants and does not care about his appearance. I pray, hope, and resolve never to copy his habits.

derek
08-22-2003, 10:18 PM
Exercise is something that I do not want to give up, even though I fear it may have caused some weight loss

the exercise program you described in your first post is the cause of your weight loss. if your goal is to gain weight, you need to stop all cardiovascular exercise which is only good for burning calories and building endurance.

there are some things you need to do:

1. determine how many calories per day you need to maintain your existing physical condition, and then increase that by 500-1000 calories per day.

2. embark on a high intensity, low volume weight training program.

3. accept the possibility that you may not have the skeletal frame/genetic predisposition to carry a lot of muscle mass, but you'll never know untill you try. ;)

as you've seen, everyone has an opinion on how to gain weight, but if you want to gain muscle and not fat, i'd suggest you learn about "heavy duty" or high intensity weight training developed by a man named mike mentzer.

www.mikementzer.com

bobafrett
08-23-2003, 12:06 AM
Also, I have talked with several body builders, and it seems the taller you are, the harder it is to get the muscle bulk. You can still get it, I would use more weights and weight lifting than cardio. You might want to check into your park district if your town has one. They often have workout facilitys at a cheap monthly rate.

When I was about 23 years old, I weighed somewhere in the 180's and the ideal weight for my height was around 156. My room mate, weighed about 130 and his ideal weight for his height was around 160. We made a $50 bet that whoever got to their ideal weight by a three month time, would win. I started a walking program, and changed my eating, which basically meant I gave up cookies. My room mate ate more and drank a powdered weight gain mix. After three months, he gained 5 pounds and I lost around 23. I won, but the one problem he had, was he is lactose intolerant, so he couldn't drink enough of the weight gain formula.

You should still do some cardio, just not as much. Cardio is good for the heart! I'll ask my boss at the Y if she could recommend anything for you that hasn't already been suggested.

Tonysmo
08-24-2003, 07:01 AM
weight gain? hmmm just my quick two cents.. buy into that new game.. um.. STAR WARS GALAXIES.. and load up on ice cream while you play.. ( Hiccup! Bellllllchh!! ) works for me!!

I do have a tread mill... its great to hand my clothes on. My weight bench is used primarily to stack all my new Star Wars toys on until I can put them in the proper spots..


how many ethiopians can you fit in a phone booth? all of em!!


ok ok .. sorry.. that was wrong.

scruffziller
08-24-2003, 07:10 AM
weight gain? hmmm just my quick two cents.. buy into that new game.. um.. STAR WARS GALAXIES.. and load up on ice cream while you play.. ( Hiccup! Bellllllchh!! ) works for me!!

I do have a tread mill... its great to hand my clothes on. My weight bench is used primarily to stack all my new Star Wars toys on until I can put them in the proper spots..


how many ethiopians can you fit in a phone booth? all of em!!


ok ok .. sorry.. that was wrong.

Yep I can definately relate to that.:D

TeeEye7
08-24-2003, 07:33 AM
Formula for weight gain:

Get married, have kids....do everything for them, nothing for yourself....the pounds go on in a flash!

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
08-24-2003, 10:52 PM
You should still do some cardio, just not as much. Cardio is good for the heart! I'll ask my boss at the Y if she could recommend anything for you that hasn't already been suggested.

Thanks Bobafrett for checking up on that. I have talked to some people recently and they all suggested concentrating on the upper body and lifting weights. That's something I've neglected to think about.

The thing is I do not want to cut back on jogging. I seem to have become addicted to it. However, winter's are notoriously cold where I live, and I doubt I will keep it up during that time. I just have to watch that I don't tire myself out from running that I have no energy for lifting.

As far as food is concerned, I know I have to increase my caloric intake but at the same time, I want to eat healthy. Eating lard straight from the can may increase the intake, but at the same time, I don't want to clog my arteries, for as much as my metabolism may burn up fat, it cannot control chlestorol which goes straight to my arteries.

bobafrett
08-24-2003, 11:50 PM
I have talked to some people recently and they all suggested concentrating on the upper body and lifting weights.

Well you should also work on the lower body/leg area. You don't want to get muscular in the arms and have scrawny legs. You can take dumbells in your arms and do lunges and squats which will help build up and strengthen the legs muscles.

I go into paint the Y on Tuesday, I will talk to my boss then. Don't get discouraged LBC, the results will take a while, but if you can commit to the time, and stick to your goals, then you will get there! You might also want to go check into some body building books at the library to research on what they do to achieve the muscle and bulk.

Jedi_Master_Guyute
08-25-2003, 10:16 AM
Weight gain?!? I'm prolly about 15-20 pounds too heavy, so i'll gladly donate some of my excess lovin' to ya. Lemme find what i need to help you out here (Mike heads to the kitchen looking for a knife, ice cream scooper and a ziplock bag)


PM me your address and i'll send it to ya, ASAP!! :crazed:

I won't comment much on this situation cause it's been an ongoing battle for years w/ me. There was a time when i would head down to the local gym/work out center every morning and bike for 30 min and go roughly about 12 miles or so. I also cut back on what i ate and saw some results after a few months, but nothing much. After i got a new job which required a lot of my time, i fell out of working out, but really didn't eat much either and i'm where i'm at now. I don't eat nearly as much (only about 2 meals a day now) and rarely snack anymore. Once i get back to school (which requires miles of walking, daily) i plan to keep up my plan of no bad foods and to behave myself. Though, i was visiting my bro in Chicago this past weekend and admist drowning myself in the fatty foods there (Hey, i can only enjoy my hometown foods every year or two!) he said it looks like i've been losing weight. I guess not eating and running my a-- off for Pepsi DOES have it's advantages!! :p

Then again, if somebody doesn't like me because of the i look, they can go do something to themselves which usually is more fun w/ a partner (if this is naughty mods, let me know, i'll fix it! :) ).
they can even toss out a few names too, i've heard them all. I'll even give them a 2 second head start before i pummel them into oblivion. hehehehehe being a big guy does have it's advantages!! :D

Kidhuman
08-25-2003, 11:12 AM
Though, i was visiting my bro in Chicago this past weekend and admist drowning myself in the fatty foods there (Hey, i can only enjoy my hometown foods every year or two!) he said it looks like i've been losing weight:D

I agree, every time I go back to NYC for a visit, I have to eat the food I grew up on. Bagels, pizza, heroes w/boars head cold cuts. The goods basically. I know I put on a few pounds when I am there for a week. Maybe LBC should go toChicago or NYC to gain some weight. I know knishes everyday would put some lbs. on LBC.

bobafrett
08-25-2003, 04:24 PM
Try working at a pizza place for eight years now. Try having your boss/owner of said pizza place making you a large pizza every Thursday that gets consumed by me in less than 24 hours. Try having pizza for free while you are on the clock, and you are there 4-5 days a week. Try having slices of double dough pizza available as a quick meal between deliveries. Then try to stop eating all this pizza cold Turkey as you have packed on 30 pounds in a year. Then you will see what it is like to have been me this past year.

There you go LBC, just get a job working at a pizza joint that has those benefits, and you'll be bulking up real quick!

bobafrett
08-27-2003, 10:51 PM
Well, in talking with my boss she basically said the same thing everyone else has already mentioned. Eat foods high in protien, and do multiple sets of exercise for each muscle group as I had mentioned earlier. You'll have to get some dumbells, or find a place that has some you can use. I know that's easy for me to say as I work at a Y that is within a mile or so of my house. As soon as I get the book I lent my friend back, I will see what advice they have. Keep working out!

JediTricks
08-28-2003, 12:20 AM
If you have gout in your family, doing over 20 grams of protein per meal can bring it on. Also, hardcore bodybuilders don't do a ton of reps, they do 8 strenuous reps then take a 2 minute break and do something else in the same pattern; if you want to put on weight, eat the carbs right before AND after the workout.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
08-28-2003, 10:23 PM
Bobafrett--Thanks for all your help in giving me this information about what exercises to do. I have started a different regiment of exercises this week, many of them resistance type of exercises that will hopefully make me buff :Pirate: Also, instead of running every night, I have relegated that to every other night.

And as far as working at a Pizza Joint is concerned, I work at a place that is just as bad. An Ice Cream parlor. But I limit myself to a scoop per night, because I know just how unhealthy ice cream is (but you're not supposed to know, :) just keep buying it).

JT--Thanks for the diet information. Right now, the only thing that is in our cupboard are saltines and peanut butter. Which is something I will eat more of.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
02-19-2008, 08:50 PM
Over the 4 1/2 years since I started this thread, I went from a consistent 145pounds (which I had flatlined at for about 5 years) to 163 pounds.

Thanks donuts and chips:thumbsup:

bigbarada
02-19-2008, 10:10 PM
Good question! Can we discuss that instead?


See, I've always taken the view that while your above statement is fundamentally the way to go, we humans also need to acknowledge that we are wired to be attracted to beauty.

This is the argument that "big and beautiful" women like to use to justify their excessive weight. Well, fine. Yeah, sure, anyone should feel free to look as they wish...but, the flipside is that we then shouldn't feel sleighted or surprised when people treat us differently (ie. the girls don't want to go out with you or you are turned down for a job). It's just human nature and no amount of self-rationalization (concerning making yourself feel better) or blame (trying to make others feel bad for being "superficial" or other such nonsense) will change that fact.

So the answer is to either be yourself and accept whatever ramifications come from it (ie, don't get the kind of mate you really want or settle for a different job) or take those extra steps to transform yourself (ie. lose/gain weight, different hair style, plastic surgery, etc...).

Doing whatever we need to do to achieve the desired results should be welcomed and not maligned by anyone. The opposite holds true as well though...people who don't work to "improve" themselves shouldn't be maligned, however they must accept the way that other humans respond to them and not act superior and accuse them of being superficial. There is more to life than looks, however appearance is still a very large part of who we are.

Well, sometimes it's an issue of health and not just appearance. For those of us with a family history of heart problems, eating right, exercising and maintaining your weight could potentially add decades to your lifespan.

My biological grandfather on my dad's side was an alcoholic and was dead of a heart attack by the age of 30. My dad has never drank alcohol in his life, but ate fried foods every single day and he's had a rash of heart attacks and two heart surgeries in the 9 years since turning 50.

I don't drink that much alcohol, I don't smoke and I try to watch what I eat; so that, if I have inherited my dad's heart problems, when I turn 50 it won't be nearly as severe as what he's had to go through.

bigbarada
02-19-2008, 10:18 PM
Over the 4 1/2 years since I started this thread, I went from a consistent 145pounds (which I had flatlined at for about 5 years) to 163 pounds.

Thanks donuts and chips:thumbsup:

I have three letters for you: HGH :ninja:

Anyways, congrats on gaining almost 20 pounds, I haven't been 163 pounds since high school.

bobafrett
02-24-2008, 02:32 PM
I wish I could get back down to 163, sadly I float around 230. Congratulations on your weight gain!

JEDIpartner
05-02-2008, 12:57 PM
No matter what I do, I can't seem to get below 170#. Such a pain... :( I gym 6 times a week and eat pretty clean. Oh, well. Damn the genetics!!!

TeeEye7
05-02-2008, 07:48 PM
Oh, well. Damn the genetics!!!

....or in my case: age. Doesn't matter what I do any more, either.

Tonysmo
05-02-2008, 11:24 PM
We started a fat guys club here at work. 6 of us are in it, mostly to make money and lose weight. we all weighed in, and took our hieght into consideration as well as goal weight. We will all weigh in on the 15th of every month and those who meet the weight goal for that month are free.. those who dont meet the goal weight pay out $30 to the group. At the end, in December we all put in $50. The one closest to the goal weight or furthest below it wins.

Im currently the lightest of the group at 210. so far Ive lost 6lbs by doing the obvious.. cutting out soda for starters. Ive slowly started watching more and more of what I eat.. even though sometimes I cant help it, as well as still a few bad days where the the donuts just look too damn good to pass up.

Weening myself from huge glasses of chocolate milk has proven to be my biggest challenge thus far.

I only need to lose 4lbs by the 15th, so Im pretty sure Im good - and at the rate im going should have no issues meeting june 15th with another 4lbs.

my goal weight is to get back down to 186 and beyond.

It will be a thrill to get back down to that weight.. and to fit back into a pair of 34's :P

money is such a motivator..

Mad Slanted Powers
05-03-2008, 02:24 AM
when I do look in the mirror, I see an image of an Ethopian staring back at me.Some of the best runners in the world are from Ethiopia.

I've not been running as much as I should be. Since I got my own place, I don't have a scale to check my weight, but when I visit my parents house I get on their scale. I'm up about 5 to 10 pounds to around 170.

bobafrett
05-03-2008, 06:25 AM
We started a fat guys club here at work. 6 of us are in it, mostly to make money and lose weight. we all weighed in, and took our hieght into consideration as well as goal weight. We will all weigh in on the 15th of every month and those who meet the weight goal for that month are free.. those who dont meet the goal weight pay out $30 to the group. At the end, in December we all put in $50. The one closest to the goal weight or furthest below it wins.

Im currently the lightest of the group at 210. so far Ive lost 6lbs by doing the obvious.. cutting out soda for starters. Ive slowly started watching more and more of what I eat.. even though sometimes I cant help it, as well as still a few bad days where the the donuts just look too damn good to pass up.

Weening myself from huge glasses of chocolate milk has proven to be my biggest challenge thus far.

I only need to lose 4lbs by the 15th, so Im pretty sure Im good - and at the rate im going should have no issues meeting june 15th with another 4lbs.

my goal weight is to get back down to 186 and beyond.

It will be a thrill to get back down to that weight.. and to fit back into a pair of 34's :P

money is such a motivator..

I have been walking, dropped Diet soda and now drink water. I was at 230 lbs, this morning I weighed in at 223 lbs. so I am losing weight. I also try to watch what I eat, my weakness is chocolate chip cookies. My fiance and I went out for a late night dinner last night At Denny's, I ate oatmeal, egg beaters, pancakes and an english muffin. I felt stuffed, and regreted eating that close to bedtime.

You are right about money being a motivator. Many years ago a room mate and I made a $50 bet, who ever got to their ideal weight won $50, I won that bet. Also when I entered the "Body for Life" competition, they had a million dollar spokesperson contract available, and I got into the best shape of my life. Once the contest was over, I got distracted by real life, and slowly put on the weight, plus some.

Bel-Cam Jos
05-03-2008, 09:44 AM
I was just as LBC was throughout my HS and JC days (around 125-140 lbs.), and had a steady increase. Now, I hover around 163 (my preferred, feels-comfortable weight) to as much as 170. My "routine" is to eat a decent-sized breakfast and a sometimes-large dinner. In between, my lunch is a sandwich and piece of fruit, with water: so, from 6am to 6pm, that's all I eat. I have maybe a couple sodas a week, no alcohol or coffee, occasional snacks like chips/ice cream/cookies. It's not going to get me any book deals for my "diet," but it works for my frame (5'8 3/4" ) and current age (94).




:D

sith_killer_99
05-04-2008, 02:33 AM
I was 5ft. 9in. and 155lbs. when I graduated high school.

I joined the Army a few months later and gained about 15-20lbs the first year. I have been around 170-175 ever since.

Same height and weight for 14 years now.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
05-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Good news (see attached pic).

TeeEye7
05-19-2008, 02:16 AM
That's just wrong, LBC! ;)

Slicker
05-19-2008, 05:46 AM
I'm one of those tall skinny guys. I'm about 6'2" and weigh about 190 pounds. For about the past 3 months I've started going to the gym and whatnot (I have to be in shape but I've never bothered lifting weights). I haven't lost any weight nor have I noticed myself getting bigger (though others say that I am) but I've noticed that I'm much more stronger and beasty. I'm actually getting definition and whatnot. I only go to the gym 6 days a week for about an hour and I do cardio on Wednesday and Saturday for 30 minutes. I do abs everyday as I had a little pudge and i want a flat stomach.

Blue2th
05-19-2008, 09:19 AM
I've weighed almost the same since high school. Though in the last year I've gained about 10 lbs.
5'11" and 169 lbs.
I used to run around a track quite a bit. I really need to start swimming again. Swimmers have the coolest builds. Though a few sit-ups a day might help in the stomach department. Like to get a washboard tummy and at least some nice pecks.
As far as excersizing now, I get enough of that walking around looking for toys and lifting musical equipment for weekend gigs.