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09-02-2003, 01:52 PM
A few weeks ago, I picked up my very first Marvel Legends figure. Series 4 had just hit my Wal*Mart, so I decided to get the Punisher.
I had heard such great things about this line and when I got the figure open, I wasn't dissappointed - I really loved this figure. It's in my top ten.
So, feeling so great about my purchase of the Punisher, I decided it was time to start picking up the rest of the previous assortments. I got another two the other day (Thor and Ghost Rider) and those two completely changed my opinion of the line.
When I got Ghost Rider open, I noticed that he doesn't include a hand-held chain, like pictured. I know that sometimes photos can be of prototypes and that he might not really have the chain, but I'll ask here. Is Ghost Rider supposed to come with another chain (and I don't mean the one around his chest, because that one is there)?
That was the first problem. Next was the fact that the points of articulation were so tight, I thought they were going to break right off. And on top of that, I think that the chest joint is broken, because it seems to "flop" around and not really stay in one place. Anyone else's like that?
Now, on Thor, I was really dissappointed. First, I noticed that his head was about to fall off - I can't turn it without it threatening to rip right off. Second, his cape isn't attached correctly. On mine, there is a small depression where a peg on the cape should fit. The peg is about a half and inch back on the shoulder, not in the right spot.
Is anyone else having these sorts of problems with their Marvel Legends figures? Or is it really that I only pick out the broken toys? :cry:
09-02-2003, 03:29 PM
going from what i have, and from what i have seen. you may have gotten broken/defective toys. My Beast and Gambit are fine, as well as my Magneto and Wolverine. I can't honesty say that i hav the Ghost Rider or Thor, because i don't, so i dont know if it's like that on all of them. But i know that mine are fine.
09-02-2003, 07:39 PM
I've never seen a Ghost Rider with two chains (and I've seen a lot of them). The only thing that dissapointed me with Ghost Rider is his unusually long arms. As far as the Thor cape issue, there are definitely lots of messed up ToyBiz figures floating around out there. There are plenty of paint errors, broken joints, and warped accessories out there. I'm always seeing bad eyes, etc.... bleh! This also goes for LOTR & Spider-Man Classics unfortunately.
For collecting this line (or any other ToyBiz line for that matter), it really does pay to examine the figure before purchasing it. I remember buying a Iron Man that had a broken elbow right out of the package, I also had bought a blue "stealth" variant Iron Man that had an unusually stiff thigh/leg joint. Tried to break it free (thinking it was just paint or something) and broke the damn thing right off! That really sucked since it's a "rare" variant and returning it means probably not getting one again. Had to glue his leg back on........ :mad:
As far as articulation goes, the new figs do have the best articulation. ToyBiz seems to be experimenting with new articulation ideas with each new wave (which is a good thing IMO). So the older waves will not have the same level of articulation. They still are great figures though, and are much better than most other new stuff that is being produced these days IMO.
Welcome to Marvel Legends! Have you seen the pics of series 5 yet? Looks like it's gonna be a great wave!
09-02-2003, 07:49 PM
yeah, i can' wait for Silver Surfer, Blade, Mr. Fantastic, and Colossus, as of right now, those are the only ones i'm definately getting. I'm thinking of maybe picking up the sabertooth, just for his base. Another part to a Sentinal.
09-02-2003, 09:24 PM
The Marvel Legends line (along with AOME) im trying to avoid like the plague. They look awesome but right now i just dont have enough money to get them and collect other things (Star Wars, LOTR, Transformer Reissues and Beast Wars) that i like. But maybe if i only stick with X-men figures (they are the coolest Marvel characters IMO) i may be able to get them along with all the other things i want.
09-03-2003, 05:48 AM
yeah Kool-aid, i advice greatly, to at least give some X-Men a try. If not for the figure, the comic book is pretty cool too.
09-03-2003, 07:06 AM
I've bought Wolverine, Punisher and Gambit and they all are perfect IMO
though I did examine them in the package so I could get the best one, I didn't see any real errors on the others
I did customize Wolvie though and gave him metal claws and a bit blackwash, and I made some normal cards for Gambit that he could hold
I'll have pics of all of them soon :)
oh, and I can't wait for the Blade figure!
09-03-2003, 05:12 PM
I haven't had any serious problems with any Legend or Spidey Classics figure yet. Scrunity is the key to buying these figures as it seems lately the paint jobs are getting a bit sloppy on particular characters, especially the eyes on Elektra and Morbius. As for the joints, I have encountered a tight one here and there, but not to the point that the toy would break if I tried to move it. Actually just picked up a Kraven today and he was very well done. Overall I think this, or these toy lines if you include the Classic lines out or forth coming are great.
02-18-2004, 10:07 PM
I'm back again with another rant.
Tonight, after much searching (both in stores and online), I finally found Blade from Series 5. Because of the problems I had with the past figures, I only wanted this one figure - and that's only because I missed the regular Blade figures when the first movie came out.
I got this figure open and my jaw dropped. It's absolutely horrible.
The coat is made from such a cheap material. I took it off once because some joints were sticking, and now that it's back on, that's where it's staying. I'm afriad it's going to tear if I mess around with it.
Almost every joint on my Blade is loose; he can barely stand up. But there are a select few that are too tight, and I know if I force 'em, they'll break. So, with mine, it has to have this really weird, wide stance. It looks awful.
Something that struck me odd... the forehead on this figure is huge. There is just a massive space between the eyes and the hair. It's not really a problem, but it's just odd.
And one of the most irritating things about this figure is the fact that it can't hold onto the gun accessory. The handle of the weapon is too thick and Blade can't get a grasp on it. It'll just fall right from the hand. And the left hand grip is too narrow. So narrow that I can't even try to cram the gun in there. The gun itself is just pitiful. It looks "primative" as far as accessories go. The weapons with the Punisher look about 100 times better. More realistic.
And on top of all that... I hear rattling somewhere in the figure. Wonderful, eh?
I'm sure I'm the only one who feels disappointed with these figures. I'm sure someone will pop in with a comment about how great his or her Blade is.
I really must be jinxed with these. They look awesome and I keep hearing such great things about these figures. So how come every time I buy one (with the exception of the Punisher), it ends up being a worthless, waste of money, piece of junk?
I await comments :crazed:
Well I don't have Blade quite yet, but the Legends/X-Men Classics I have bought have all been fine quality wise. Sounds like your just having some bad luck. :(
02-19-2004, 02:07 PM
My original Iron Man's wrist was broken off, and Toad's arm joint was so tight I did break it off. i ended up replacing Iron Man, but since Toad was such a turd of a figure to begin with , I only bothered to glue his crappy arm back on in the position i was gonna leave it in forever. Other than the occasional loose chest joint, all my Legends are cool. I took off Blades coat and gave it to Frank Castle. Its as sturdy as any toy garment I've ever come across. The Ghost Rider's chain comes off if you separate the little clasp. Then to give him that whipping action you see on the back, just thread a twisty tie(sans paper) through the links. Viola!
02-19-2004, 10:18 PM
one of the most irritating things about this figure is the fact that it can't hold onto the gun accessory. The handle of the weapon is too thick and Blade can't get a grasp on it. It'll just fall right from the hand. And the left hand grip is too narrow. So narrow that I can't even try to cram the gun in there. The gun itself is just pitiful. It looks "primative" as far as accessories go. The weapons with the Punisher look about 100 times better. More realistic.The weapons on this figure were made for the original Blade movie figure, which is years old and a different style (great figure who, even though he's a smaller scale, CAN hold those accessories). Not sure what you mean about the "left hand grip" though, do you mean the thing that slides down from the bottom of the gun? Because that's supposed to be the gun's ammo clip, not another grip.
02-19-2004, 10:43 PM
Hehheh, odd you mentioned the weapons being from an old Blade fig just now JT. I saw an Elektra/Bullseye 2-pack on ebay and Bullseye came with the sword and Mac-10 from the Blade figure. I asked about it and found out about the earlier Blade figure, pretty weird.
The little thing on the bottom of the gun is kinda screwed up to be an ammo magazine, I mean...who the heck would have a magazine like that? That'd be so easy to make jam up. ToyBiz is weird...I can't believe they didn't shave down the handle for Blade to hold. Even at ToyFair they had to pose Blade holding it by the magazine extension. :rolleyes:
02-20-2004, 11:00 AM
The weapons on this figure were made for the original Blade movie figure, which is years old and a different style (great figure who, even though he's a smaller scale, CAN hold those accessories). Not sure what you mean about the "left hand grip" though, do you mean the thing that slides down from the bottom of the gun? Because that's supposed to be the gun's ammo clip, not another grip.
JT, I just mean Blade's left hand. But the space of the left hand is smaller than that of the right. So, there's definitely no way the gun could fit in the left hand (which is how it's pictured).
I even tried using one of those clear rubber bands to hold the gun in place. It just wouldn't work, no matter how tight I got it.
I find this interesting, though... My Toy Works just up and decided it was closing (they just started yesterday, to everyone's surprise). And in the wreckage of animal-like people tearing through the toys, I found a Spider-Man Classics Hobgoblin.
Now, this is the same company and this figure is absolutely great. The joints are tight enough to keep him upright, but not so tight they threaten to break. Nothing was broken - I heard no rattling. Everything was placed where it should have been. I was really impressed with this figure.
So, why is it "hit or miss" with Toybiz?
02-23-2004, 03:14 AM
So, why is it "hit or miss" with Toybiz?
Well, if you think about it, considering what we get and how much it costs, it's not hard to guess that there's gonna be some problems. There's also simply a ton of it out there on the pegs. I've seen them open cases and cases of the latest Marvel Legends and Spiderman stuff at some stores. I can only imagine the shortcuts taken when rushing to get this stuff out of the factory and into your Local Wal-Mart.
As of now, I only own Dr. Doom and he's just great. A while ago I was hooked on the Resident Evil figures by ToyBiz and bought all of those. Never had any problems that I can remember, and they've held up pretty well over time.
In general, I'm willing to give ToyBiz a break when it comes to issues of quality. I think that they've done a lot to prove that they're interested in making cool looking toys that can also be really fun to play with. It'd be nice if I didn't have to, but I don't mind having to look something over a bit before I buy it. The biggest problem is that the more I do look it over, the more I want to buy it... and I simply don't have space for all of this stuff.
02-23-2004, 08:43 PM
the few legends figs i've gotten all are great. course they're in the package and will stay there. no troubles with articulation while encased in plastic. had to do some searching to find ones that looked good, no paint defects.
I own every current ML figure to date (minus Toad, Rogue, and Goliath). I have been 90% pleasedwith the quality of the figures I have gotten. It's not perfect, but most of the figures are so awesome, I find it acceptable.
My Blade figure is the one that gave me the most trouble. Thinking that like all ML figures, he could put his arms by his side, I tried to do so, and his arm snapped off at the joint. SPecifically, the joint broke. I had to super glue it back together. You are pretty much stuck putting him in an awkward sword pose, because of his arms. And he doesn't fit his bike well either, IMO.
My Thor is very top heavy. On top of that, his legs are loose, so he can barely stand. My WOlverine has extremely loose leg joints. The Ghost Rider chain was disappointing, but now they do have an improved one coming out, which will hopefully solve that problem. But like someone else said, you can unhook the chain from his chest and use it in his hand.
But despite all of this, I do have to say that this is my favorite line of figures now.
03-06-2004, 04:03 PM
Series IV and V have started showing up in good numbers at our big 3 retailers (at least the big 3 in Nanaimo): Zellers, TRU and WalMart. Luckily I got to TRU soon after they opened their case and put them out - Nick Fury was staring at me from the first spot on his peg of figures. Grabbed him pretty quick. I have the Surfer and Reed Richards from wave V as well, and will pick up Sabretooth and Colossus next pay period. I saw Punisher, Beast and Gambit at WalMart, but passed as they were all there in good numbers. Blade was at Zellers, but I'm not planning on getting him. No Goliaths for me anywhere.
My opinion of ToyBiz is that they are the best providers of "toy value". The ratio of cost-to-quality is far and way best in the biz in my opinion. :cool:
03-06-2004, 06:28 PM
My Blade figure is the one that gave me the most trouble.
Yep same here, for awhile I thought that the inner joint piece on my Blade's left leg was cracking, but after looking closer I fortunately found out that it's was just overlapping paint that was chipping away. However, anybody else having trouble with his moveable index finger? Ever since I opened him, the finger was VERY loose, well now it won't stay on at all. I ended up securing it down with those clear rubber bands you get with SW figs and such. Gave up along time ago trying to pose him at all, or trying to hold the gun. I'm thinking about buying another to keep the coat off of, glue the finger down, shave the gun handle down and paint the hilt of his sword.
03-10-2004, 05:55 PM
I had a good look at my Nick Fury today, and started laughing - the sneer on his face looks like it was made exactly for the purposes of having a big cigar sticking out of the side of his mouth! Too bad they can't include accessories like that for any toys that aren't Huttese...... :D
03-10-2004, 09:18 PM
Too bad they can't include accessories like that for any toys that aren't Huttese...... :D
Yeah you can't have a figure smoking legal & licensed drugs. That's why the Spawn Series 25 Sam & Twith 2-pack had Sam's cigarettes changed into joints for Wal-Mart exclusive variant. :crazed:
03-11-2004, 12:04 AM
I thought the same exact thing when I got Mr. Fury. He needs a cigar!! There is a nice solution though. One of the spawn clown figures comes with a cigar & bottle of booze. I had found one on clearance at KB for $5 not too long ago.
The cigar fits perfectly in ole Nicks teeth, and also looks pretty good in Wolvies fingers (as he's been known to smoke stogies too) Unfortunately it fell behind my desk when I was moving the fig, and I haven't seen it since... :cry: . Ah well, I'm sure it'll turn up eventually.
The bottle of booze seems like it was made for Tony Stark, and looks perfect in his hands. Here's a pic of him taking a swig. lol
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