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El Chuxter
09-03-2003, 02:35 PM
Not just for JarJarBinks, for for everyone! :D

This is a thread where we can ask about DVDs that were supposedly coming out, but then got delayed or whatever and pretty much vanished from the face of the Earth. Here's some I'm curious about:

Duel: Spielberg's first movie was going to be released last summer on DVD, but was apparently delayed because Spielberg found out about it and wanted more input. I've heard nothing since.

Ed Wood: Same story on this, the last Burton movie to hit DVD.

PowerPuff Girls: The Movie (Widescreen): Cartoon Network was supposedly not satisfied with the piece of crap DVD from last year and was planning their own fully-loaded widescreen edition for February of 2003. And yet still all I see are the too-kid-friendly version.

Beavis & Butt-Head: Similar to Ed Wood and Duel, Mike Judge had this one cancelled for more input, and it too vanished.

Batman: Special Edition: Supposedly in the works (along with, according to some rumors, Batman Returns) for a sweet 2-disc set for just about forever.

Anyone with any word on the whereabouts of these missing DVDs, please post. Or add some more to the list so DVD guru JJB can answer them all at once. :p

Beast
09-03-2003, 03:16 PM
Duel - Speilburg made them halt the release for the second time. It was supposed to be out just last month. Indeed some slipped out, and now go for a pretty penny on Ebay. I wasn't able to snag one, and neither was my 'Duel Fanatic Friend'.

Ed Wood - On permanent hold, until Burton has the time to offer himself for extra features like commentary and such. I've heard some twittering about 2004. But again, that could be bull. But with the ammount of 'Oh My God They FinallY Released THat' releases in 2003, I wouldn't be suprised to see it in 2004.

Powerpuff Girls: The Movie (WS) - I haven't heard anything since it was originally announced. So I have no clue what the hold up is with the WS edition from Cartoon Network. CN is finally going to start issuing some Adult Swim stuff, like Space Ghost. So maybe soon.

History of Beavis & Butthead - Another lovely last minute cancellation that saw some slip out onto the market. And also go for big bucks on Ebay. Apperantly there was some issue with a copyrighted image in the menus. Though that's not been confirmed nor denied.

Batman: Special Edition - SE's of the first two, and possibly 3 and 4 are on hold until WB and DC can get another Batman film off the ground. They want to do it, they've even started doing stuff for them. But they don't think they can float on the market, without a film to tie it into. In other words, they are idiots. :p

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

El Chuxter
09-03-2003, 04:44 PM
Batman: Special Edition - SE's of the first two, and possibly 3 and 4 are on hold until WB and DC can get another Batman film off the ground. They want to do it, they've even started doing stuff for them. But they don't think they can float on the market, without a film to tie it into. In other words, they are idiots. :p

You can say that again! If only they knew how many times I've passed over both movies just because I keep hearing about expanded editions. Folks like me could easily make them a pretty penny on those two. (Forever and that piece-of-crap #4 may be a different story.)

Beast
09-03-2003, 05:04 PM
I agree with you on 3 and 4, but I'd still buy them if they were extended cuts with plenty of extras. Hell, I'm getting the mega-gut-buster Alien boxset in November, and I think 3 and 4 of that are crap. But 9 discs of Alien goodness, just might change my mind. Not to mention the 10th disc from Image, the Alien Saga A&E special. :)

Plus there was a lot cut from Forever that could make it a better film. The entire beginning with Two-Face's escape from Arkham. It was a shame, cause I love the Two-Face character, and his part was cut to crap by Jim "The Riddler" Carry's overacting. I'll paste some of the important stuff, so that you know what was cut. Not mentioned but cut, is a scene in the Riddler's lair in the end. The floor is holographic in places, and it's possible to fall to your death. But Bruce had the Sonar Suit, so knows where to step. :(

The original cut shown in previews was too long, and a large sequence in the Batcave, explaining much of the plot including the Batman Forever title, was edited out. The original opening sequence depicted TwoFace's escape from Arkham Asylum. Dr. Burton arrives at TwoFace's cell to find the ceiling blown away and the words: "The Bat Must Die" written on a wall. This scene was shot but cut. The original opening can be partially seen in the U2 music video "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me". In it the infamous "THE BAT MUST DIE" line is shown for a second written in a wall with bloody white letters.

Many scens were included in preview screenings that would have made the film darker and more understandable:
The longer opening with Two-Face's escape from Arkham.
Longer dialogue between Alfred and Bruce Wayne as he shoots through the tunnel from Wayne enterprises to the Batcave.
After the Riddler tries to punch the security guard at the casino and fails, he picks up his cane and beats the guard to the ground with it.
Alfred and Bruce examining one of Edward Nygma's boxes in the batcave.
Extra exterior shots of Nygmatech at night.
Shots of Dick and Bruce escorting Chase into Edward Nygma's party at the Ritz Gotham.
The Riddler reading the newspaper headline, "Batman survives subway sabotage" and getting enraged-this would have led in the scene later on where he shows the headline to Two-Face.
More shots of Robin hitting Two-Face on Claw Island.
More shots of Bruce and Chase hitting Two-Face`s thugs in Wayne Manor.

Large sequences of the movie were deleted to trim the movie down to two hours. The red journal that was left by Bruce's father contained words that deepened his guilt ("Bruces insists we see a movie tonight...") and made him feel responsible for his parent's death. After Bruce is knocked unconscious during the attack on Wayne Manor, he loses his memory and does not recall ever being Batman, but is haunted by a terrible guilt. To face his fear, Bruce ventures into the heart of the cave where the journal is, and reads the end of the sentence that cleanses his guilt ("but Martha and I have our hearts set on Zorro, so Bruce's movie will have to wait for next week") The giant bat then appears, and Bruce stands eye to eye with it. After his memory returns, Bruce triggers a hidden button that reveals a second layer to the batcave, where the Batwing, Batboat, and the experimental sonar suit were kept (thus explaining why they escaped Riddler's wrath).

After taunting Chase with his neon light-up suit, the Riddler pulls out a long needle and injects her with a drug that knocks her out.

The sequencing of much of the first half of the movie was altered to start the movie off with an action scene. Originally, a scene was supposed to show Two-Face escaping from the asylum. Cut to Bruce visiting his company and rejecting Nygma's invention, then seeing the bat signal and going off to fight Two-Face. (Note that in the theatrical version, there are sirens going off in the distance, when it is supposed to be Chase who sends the signal) The second time Bruce sees the signal, he meets with Chase. On his way back, he is attacked by Two-Face and ends up scaling the wall to escape.
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MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

2-1B
09-04-2003, 03:01 AM
Whatever happened to the DVD for Return of the Living Dead II ? :confused:

I heard that part 3 is on the way, but what happened to 2?

I need "brains . . . more brains" ! ! ! :crazed:

Sincerely,
the Tar Man :)

Jedi Clint
09-04-2003, 01:21 PM
Off topic, I apologize, but I saw on IMDB that there will be 2 new films in the Return of the Living Dead series....one this year and one next.

Maybe someone can refresh my memory. Was Return of the Living Dead II basically the same movie as part one? Weren't the 2 guys from the medical supply warehouse the same 2 guys that were grave robbing at the beginning of part 2? Wasn't the very end bascially the same?

I recently saw Day of the Dead (different series I know). Great movie. Brilliant special effects. Dawn of the Dead is supposed to be out some time in the not too distant future.

2-1B
09-04-2003, 01:43 PM
Clint, yes those two guys are the same guys from the first one - they just play different characters.

As for 4 and 5, who knows? Word has it that Tobe Hooper is supposed to do them back-to-back and I'm sure he needs money to do them. I think his movie Toolbox Murders is coming out first.

Pendo
09-04-2003, 02:06 PM
The Goonies was supposed to be released here in the UK about 2 years ago, and there's still no sign of it :mad:! Even if it was delayed we'd probably have it by now!

PENDO!

Jedi Clint
09-04-2003, 02:24 PM
Clint, yes those two guys are the same guys from the first one - they just play different characters.

As for 4 and 5, who knows? Word has it that Tobe Hooper is supposed to do them back-to-back and I'm sure he needs money to do them. I think his movie Toolbox Murders is coming out first.


Thanks Caesar. I figured they had to be different characters ;) Was the very end of each the same (rain on the graves)? They were very similar movies although I'd have to say I like the first one a great deal more.

tagmac
09-14-2003, 10:10 PM
Plus there was a lot cut from Forever that could make it a better film. The entire beginning with Two-Face's escape from Arkham. It was a shame, cause I love the Two-Face character, and his part was cut to crap by Jim "The Riddler" Carry's overacting. I'll paste some of the important stuff, so that you know what was cut. Not mentioned but cut, is a scene in the Riddler's lair in the end. The floor is holographic in places, and it's possible to fall to your death. But Bruce had the Sonar Suit, so knows where to step. :(

I'd also like to know what happened to Two Face's line from the trailer that was cut from the helicoptor scene - "If a bat wants to play, we'll play!" I always thought that was a cool line.

And do they really think they need a movie tie-in to make people buy the DVD's? Geez...I bought all 4 a while ago, but I always wondered why they were released without any special features. 1,2, and 3 need the SE treatment....I think #4 is bad enough the way it is.

James Boba Fettfield
09-24-2003, 03:06 PM
I saw an article at Creature Corner and it mentions something about that ROTLD 2 DVD:

Last year, MGM did the fans of horror a great service by releasing a special edition of the Dan O'Bannon zombie classic, Return of the Living Dead. One of the reasons we got to see an SE of it was thanks to the tireless efforts of one Michael Allred, an advocator of all things rare and horror who pursued both MGM and O'Bannon himself until he got what he knew the fans wanted.

Damn good work on his part. Since then he's worked on petitions to get Return of the Living Dead II done (that's through Warner Bros, who have little interest in the film in the first place), which is out next year. He's done petitions for Dark Star, the first film from John Carpenter and Dan O'Bannon (page is here) and O'Bannon's first directorial effort, The Resurrected (that's here), which he will be meeting with Artisan about soon enough to see if a deal can be made for an SE DVD release, which more importantly will be uncut.

He's currently working on two more films that need the support from fans, two made-for-TV films that not many people think of when John Carpenter is brought up, but they are part of his early work in film. Elvis: The Movie starring Kurt Russell as the King of Rock 'N Roll (page is here), and Someone's Watching Me!, a late 70's movie Carpenter directed about a woman being stalked by an unseen assailant. Allred is looking to get the word out to the fans that these movies are out there, just waiting for a DVD release, but the companies the own them need to know the fans want them. He's done a good job so far, so help him out by clicking here to support Elvis and here for Someone's Watching Me!

If you want to check out those petition sites, go to http://www.creature-corner.com/dvd/sep24dvdpetitions.php3 and access the links from their news story for the films. I suppose this means ROTLD 2 is happening.