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scruffziller
09-19-2003, 01:14 PM
I figured out that if I were to win a large sum of money from the lottery it would have to be several several million. Because not only would I need to set myself up for life but my family and friends. Because, I would not be able to enjoy my money unless the people close to me were available all the time to spend time with.

bobafrett
09-19-2003, 01:25 PM
Um, I would buy myself a large section of real estate in Wisconsin, and I would have a life size replica of the Falcon, and a TIE fight built on my land in my backyard, instead of a pool. I would also get some of the high price Star Wars collectibles that I have always wanted but couldn't afford.

I would also get my mom situated in a house of her own, where she wouldn't have to work. I would also give a sum of cash to my son's mom, to give me custody of my son. She would still have visitation, but I would get to see him more often.

stillakid
09-19-2003, 02:50 PM
"...I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony...I'd like to buy the world a Coke..."

Kidhuman
09-19-2003, 02:53 PM
I guess first I would pay off bills. The buy a huge house, one with enough room for the collection and family. Buy a nice car. BUy the missingg pieces tomy collection(maybe an entire vintage collection carded and boxed). Buy Angela something nice. Build a house out back for the kids too. Then investthe rest into Hasbro so I could be a senior partner and hire everyone from the board towork there and make the figures we want.

Jargo
09-19-2003, 02:58 PM
I'd keep nearly all of it in a high yield bank account and live off the interest. I have meagre needs and don't want any ostentatios trappings. just a nice comfortable house and garden big enough for the dog to roam safely in. I would of course buy a house in a plot of land that was far from roads and urban sprawl. The fewer people I have to come into contact with the better.
And I would just continue to buy toys like I do but not worry about having to pay off credit card bills.
I wouldn't make a song and dance about having pots of cash and i wouldn't be spending it on other people. Not even my family. They all have debts up to their eyeballs but they made their bed so they can lie in it. Why should I get them out of trouble just because I happen to have a fortune? If you can't be responsible with money when you have little then if I were to give them a lot they'd only get into more trouble. They'd pay off debts and then go and max out the cards again and get into more debt.
If i became a multimillionaire then I'd buy a small island. Build a very very exclusive hotel there and rake it in from the idle rich.
I would aquire the rights to Sesame street licensing and have Pallisades make a series of figures for me. Then I'd simply give the rights back to the Henson people in a 'random' act of charity. The only proviso would be that I get a job working on the Muppets endeavours. Wouldn't matter what job it was as long as I could work around the muppets.
I'd fund a dog rescue centre. Employ a vet full time, take all the dogs from the local authority pound due to be destroyed and have them live in comfort on a large re-utilised farm. Acres and acres of green land for them to roam in. But not cats, hate cats, or horses, hate horses. It wouldn't be a kennels it would be a home. Don't believe in caging animals unless they're dangerous.
I'd open a male 'escort' establishment. Not everyone wants a lady and there's a niche market waiting to be filled. Nothing seedy, tasteful and upmarket. appointment only. expensive.
That might sound strange to some but everybody has needs and all you need to do is recognise a need and do something that caters to that need. bars and clubs are ten a penny but more refined ways of getting what you want don't really exist so I would be providing a much needed service. A speedy growth area I'll wager given todays growing climate of right wing 'anti' propaganda.
I would ban collar and tie from any workplace I set up. It's restrictive and impeding clothing. Comfortable smart casuals. I don't believe you have to dress to impress. You dress to keep warm and dry or cool and dry. You dress to preserve your modesty. If people can't see past the superficiality of a bit of sewn cloth then they aren't worth knowing. When employing my minions I would completely ignore their clothing smart or otherwise and simply go on personality. Perhaps i'd conduct nude interviews with prospective employees. It doesn't hurt if you're filthy stinking rich to be unconventional and radical, free spirited and eccentric.
Strayed there for a second. If I were that rich I'd be fairly content with my life but probably increasingly frustrated with everyone elses.

The 'Xir
09-19-2003, 03:19 PM
don't we all wish for that! Well maybe some of us don't like our friends and family that much, but I think most of us would want that!
Actually I would do alot of philanthropy(sp?), but to make sure I still had alot of money comming in inorder to give away, I'd make alot of investments and also start alot of business'. I've always had this great Idea for the movie industry, so I'd start new and risky business like that, but I'd also make sure I started business' that can't fail, like starting or owning things like cemetaries. It's like the old joke, there no way you can go out of business owning a cemetary because everyone's just dying to get in! hehehe hee! :rolleyes:
But, businesses like that where you will always have a large demand for or a solid customer base, businesses like cemetaries, construction companies, accounting firms or tax return franchises, pubs/bars, etc.!
Ahh, but hell you know I'd have to throw one hell of a "I just won a **** load of money" Celebration, Including a 12 hour marathon of all the Star Wars movies!!! So who has the winning lottery #'s for this week? Let's all pitch in $20 bucks and play the largest lottery pot in the country!!! At the moment the NY state lottery is only at about 15-20 million, but I think the east coast Mega Millions lottery is at about 85-90 mill.!!! Let's play! :greedy:

stillakid
09-19-2003, 10:38 PM
The buy a huge house, one with enough room for the collection and family.


I like that "collection" came before "family." :D

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
09-20-2003, 12:02 AM
Let's see, one of the first things I would do is (depending on the windfall) expand the house I live in, or buy an even bigger one, just so I can have a decent display of my Star Wars collection.

Philantrophy, as The Xir mentioned, seems the way to go. When you die, it is important thing for people to say that "so and so was a good, decent man."

One of the main things I would do is concentrate on fixing the messed up system used to fund our schools. I would lobby hard to change the ways that dollars are dished out to our public schools. If I can't, then I would donate a good chunk of it to improve a school district like Buffalo, NY, which has seen over 300 teacher layoffs in the past three years, crowded class sizes, and a bare-bones budget that only provides enough to fund the essentials.

Americorps, a federal program which is like a peace corps for the inner city, would get a major boost in funding (if I am not mistaken, this program was eliminated this year, or saw a drastic cut in funding).

I'd have a few scholarships out there, aimed for those who don't have the financial wherewithal, to attend my alma mater of Canisius College, a private school in Buffalo.

The more you give, the more you get in return I believe. It is important to think of others, spend your money before you die, and make a difference in something other than your own life.

Exhaust Port
09-20-2003, 08:53 AM
I would donate a significant portion to medical research. Anything I would buy would only be given away or sold to someone else when I died leaving no true impact on society. Giving a $10 million to cancer research and having that make a difference for every generation to follow would make me happy.

I would also make a scholarship for the non-minority. I found that being a white male with OK grades didn't qualifiy me for anything. Heck just trying to find a scholarship that a white male can apply for was fruitless. I want to give something to those out there having the same problem.

After taking care of others I would then turn to myself and buy something completely selfish. :D

http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/n41749.htm

http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/n773RD.htm

Just enough room for me, myself and I. :D

Jedi_Master_Guyute
09-20-2003, 09:13 AM
First and foremost, I'd give a HUGE portion of it to my folks so they could pay off the house and just retire and relax for a while. I'd prolly then buy a good sized apartment in chicago, one with a huge room for my toys and then i'd get a job that had like 20 hours a week, just to keep myself occupied. I'd prolly then pay off a huge majority (if not all of it) of my school loans. I'd prolly then put some in the stocks and keep earning money from that. It'd be a good good life. :D

stillakid
09-20-2003, 10:51 AM
I would donate a significant portion to medical research. Anything I would buy would only be given away or sold to someone else when I died leaving no true impact on society. Giving a $10 million to cancer research and having that make a difference for every generation to follow would make me happy.

I would also make a scholarship for the non-minority. I found that being a white male with OK grades didn't qualifiy me for anything. Heck just trying to find a scholarship that a white male can apply for was fruitless. I want to give something to those out there having the same problem.

After taking care of others I would then turn to myself and buy something completely selfish. :D

http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/n41749.htm

http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/n773RD.htm

Just enough room for me, myself and I. :D

It's funny you mention the planes. I've always thought that it would really really cool to have something like an F-14 to jet around in. :cool:

That's after I get my Testerrosa, of course. :Pirate:

Exhaust Port
09-20-2003, 12:07 PM
Yeah, the modern military hardware is pretty amazing. I saw an outfit that was selling a F/A-18, A-7, etc.. for millions of dollars for 20 year old used equipment. They've since ceased operation from what I've seen. It seems that it isn't economical to operate modern stuff which is too bad because in 50 years they're won't be any flying.

Korean era stuff is still workable though:

http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/n31250.htm

http://www.classicjets.org/gallery-fighters.html

The F-104 is capable of Mach 2+ which would be a blast. Of course I don't know where you'd find airspace that would allow you to punch through the sound barrier. I can only imagine what the insurance premiums would be. :D

Jargo
09-20-2003, 03:36 PM
*The more you give, the more you get in return I believe. It is important to think of others, spend your money before you die, and make a difference in something other than your own life.*

Wrong.wrong. wrong and wrong. Okay so that's what you believe then I'm very happy for you but reality is that for whatever you give out you'll get little or no return. In this day and age it's every man for himself, stuff everyone else and fight for survival.
Why spend it all before you die? It's more annoying to take it all with you into your cremation or burial plot. All the greedy bastards wanting your loot when you die can all go to hell because you took the money with you. Make a difference how? It takes a hell of a lot more than dishing out cash to make any difference anywhere. And what's wrong with being self absorbed? When you're that rich you don't need anyone as a friend because you can buy them - a dime a dozen. Respect is superfluous really when you have cash to throw around like that. People can grumble all they like but at the end of the day they'll all take a hefty tip or handout so they all turn into butt kissers and spongers. When you're rich all anybody wants is your money and you cease to be a person. the money owns all the personality, the money does the talking for you. So why bother with all that and why not just tell the world where to get off and be selfish and self centred and live a full rich life of hidious excess? **** everyone else, I'm alright.

Exhaust Port
09-20-2003, 03:55 PM
What good is a house if you have no one to come over? I know one extremely wealthy person and he suffers from depression because, as it turns out, money can't buy happiness. He has no close friends and spends his days sitting in his house alone, that's it.

There's nothing wrong with blowing your money on yourself but that's different than being selfish. My girlfriend flew a guys personal jet for awhile and he never "gave" her anything (other than her pay) but he did share quite a bit. He had a nice house in FL that he would let her stay in when they flew down.

Believing that you can hold up in a mansion somewhere with your money and live happily ever after doesn't work.

I think most everyone who visits this board would do the same as they do now but only BIGGER. We're all collectors of something and the money would just mean that our collections would be bigger, include larger objects, have a nicer display, etc.

Jargo
09-20-2003, 04:53 PM
What good is a house if you have no one to come over? I know one extremely wealthy person and he suffers from depression because, as it turns out, money can't buy happiness. He has no close friends and spends his days sitting in his house alone, that's it.

There's nothing wrong with blowing your money on yourself but that's different than being selfish. My girlfriend flew a guys personal jet for awhile and he never "gave" her anything (other than her pay) but he did share quite a bit. He had a nice house in FL that he would let her stay in when they flew down.

Believing that you can hold up in a mansion somewhere with your money and live happily ever after doesn't work.

I think most everyone who visits this board would do the same as they do now but only BIGGER. We're all collectors of something and the money would just mean that our collections would be bigger, include larger objects, have a nicer display, etc.Nothing would make me happier than to have no friends or family constantly bugging me. In an ideal world I'd have everyone on a by appointment only basis re visits. I hate people coming into my home. Makes the place feel sullied and dirty. Why would I get depressed about being alone? I love my own company because it means I get things done uninterrupted. People always want something from you whether it be time or money or counselling or advice or favours. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

On my own I'd have a garden to look after and spend time in, a house to enjoy, hobbies to pursue such as model making and sculpture, painting and writing. I'd have dogs for company, toys to play with, gadgets and gizmos to entertain me, and a home cinema for one with no fidgeting from other people or talking over dialogue or any of the annoying things that other people do that spoil your enjoyment of a movie.
I don't eat fancy food so I wouldn't be at all bothered about the whole dinner party thing. Nothing bores me more than table small talk.
The only concession to having other people around would be a live in chauffer/handyman/gardner/butler/gents valet. Or as the idle rich call them - a man who 'does'. Why buy a dog and bark yourself?
Money can buy happiness because it can buy solitude and high security fences to keep the ordinary plebs and unwanted family and ex friends out.

stillakid
09-20-2003, 05:07 PM
My girlfriend flew a guys personal jet for awhile...


Is that a euphamism? :p



Look, the fact is that any "charitable" donation is just as selfish an undertaking as going out and buying the biggest tv set you can muster. Generally, people give" to make themselves feel better. Oh, sure, there is the inherent byproduct that someone else will derive some kind of benefit from your donation, but for the most part, it's a relatively selfish act just the same. For those who deny this, who among you will stand up and say that giving makes you feel terrible? Maybe the short term loss of monetary supplies is uncomfortable, but I'm certain that everyone manages to muster some kind of satisfaction from the act.

Besides, what's better? Handing out cold hard cash to strangers? Or buying products that help the overall economy and the company's (and hardworking employees!) who have families of their own to feed? This notion that "consumerism" is somehow non-charitable forgets about those that manufacture the luxury goods. Italian car makers have to eat too! :D

plasticfetish
09-20-2003, 06:01 PM
Well ... my idea of "insane" is pretty high ...

I would buy land, lots and lots of land. I wouldn't have an excuse for not buying the house across the street from my aunts house in that little town in Iowa ... so what the heck, I'll buy it. (What the heck, I'll buy the whole town that my grandparents used to live in.) Then I'd buy up huge chunks of farm land and turn Warren County into the organic farming capital of the nation. I'd also have to use my money and influence to buy scruffziller the Mayor's job in his own town ... he can keep the neighbors off my back when I play my stereo too loud. I'd pay someone to run the farm (and the town) and then I'd visit whenever the weather was nice or when I felt like going fishing at the lake ... which I would have cleaned up since every time I've ever gone swimming in it, I've either gotten an ear infection or been bitten by a turtle.

I'd probably put a lot of it away, spend a lot of it on junk, maybe go back to school and get my Masters degree and then a Doctorate. I'd travel a lot. I'd buy a Mercedes ... or two. I'd use it to help friends and family ... pay their debts, send them to school, etc. Make art ... open my own gallery to show it, as well as other artist's art. Oh, the list goes on ...

EricRG
09-20-2003, 06:27 PM
You are SO wrong, Stilla. When I donate money, I do it for a reason. Taking MY hard-earned money, which is scarce enough as it is, and giving it away means I have a GREAT interest in what that organization has to accomplish. The LAST thing on my mind is some convoluted self-aggrandizement. I find such a suggestion silly, borderline offensive. Yes, giving makes me feel good, but because I AM HELPING SOMEBODY ELSE. (Sometimes I DO give money to organizations that do things like advocate for cyclists, which INDIRECTLY will benefit me in the long run. BUT it also is helping MANY other people as well.) Must actions make you "feel terrible" in order for them to be meritous or legitimate? That argument is simply laughable.

And your comment about spending money on material things which are unnecessary, such as a giant TV, as opposed to donating money is a typical American response. MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME

plasticfetish
09-20-2003, 06:56 PM
... is a typical American response.
Hmm, I'm pretty sure Americans are not particularly unique when it comes to that sort of thing. As if the rest of the world is some kind of selfless paradise, and we're the only ones that spend money on luxuries over charity.

You give, because someone needs help.
If it makes you feel good, then there's nothing wrong with that.
If the only reason you give is to please yourself ... then fine, because no matter how you feel, you're still doing someone else a favor. So what does motivation matter when it comes to charity anyway?

"Gee, I'd love to give money for cancer research ... but, I'm afraid I'd only be doing it to make myself happy."

Jedi_Master_Guyute
09-20-2003, 06:59 PM
If i had enough money, i'd pay for a class that teaches EricG the annoyances of typing in that many caps. :D hehehehehheehe just messin'...

I think if i had a million dollars
(if i had a million dollars)
I'd buy you a fur coat
(but not a real fur coat, that's cruel)


heheheheehehehe had to say that, sorry! :D

also, i disagree about your thoughts on charity, Stilla. I don't have that much money as it is, so i can't donate much, but i did a lot of volunteer work at a local community center that doesn't really have much. I had to cut back on the hours i had at work and it effected my grades for a while, but did i care, not really. I was helping out kids who needed somebody to look up, and that's what was important. Grades? Meh, I was making a difference in the community. I still get parents coming up to me when i go home on breaks thanking me for all the time i put in there. Plus, it's great when you're out shopping for groceries and one of your former kids walks by and says, "Hey, Coach!" I know you probably won't see it any other way than your own, and that's fine (plus, you're stillakid, you're ALWAYS right!), but i feel bad if you think that you can't do something good for somebody else just for their sake, not yours. :D

Lord Malakite
09-20-2003, 07:22 PM
It smells like it is turning political in here with the talk of economics. Don't force me or another mod to close this thread.

EricRG
09-20-2003, 09:55 PM
Economics=politics?

:confused:

Exhaust Port
09-20-2003, 11:02 PM
Is that a euphamism? :p
eww...now that's a disgusting thought. Thank goodness it isn't a euphamism.


Besides, what's better? Handing out cold hard cash to strangers?
When my friends dad got married a few years ago he handed everyone in the wedding party a stack of cash to use for tips throughout the day of the rehersal. I didn't see it but I guess it was a blast to tip everyone for anything or just giving away money to strangers. $5 to the valet driver to get the car, $10 if he gets it there in less than 3 minutes. :) Now I know it's not necessarily in the same spirit of this thread but it shows that it can you can enjoy handing out money for nothing.

I guess when money has no meaning then it has less to do with giving money as it does with making someone else feel good. When someone is truly rich and money has lost a true worth then they would have trouble even understanding its importance to others.

For those of us at a lower income bracket the act of giving money has different meaning. I think we are a lot more closely involved with the earning of every penny we have and therefore are more involved with it's departure. A couple times I've donated a few hundred $$ to a couple different events I new there was no return for me but it did benefit the community. I can figure out how many hours I had to work to earn that money and can attach a personal worth to that money. Those multi-millionaires can't really attach a personal value to that money they give away. It's just a number that rises and falls but doesn't impact them in any significant way. When you don't work, how much is $1 million really worth to you?

Because of that, I think a lot of us do give money with the interest of making others feel good. We're giving a part of ourselves to others. Giving to a "program" that might benefit ourselves down the road has very little return for our money and there for doesn't bring much actual joy. I know I would love to donate money to the cancer research center up the street. I have very little chance of cancer in my family genes but I know it would help so many others for generations.

Lord Malakite
09-20-2003, 11:18 PM
Oh, sure, there is the inherent byproduct that someone else will derive some kind of benefit from your donation, but for the most part, it's a relatively selfish act just the same. For those who deny this, who among you will stand up and say that giving makes you feel terrible?


And your comment about spending money on material things which are unnecessary, such as a giant TV, as opposed to donating money is a typical American response.


Hmm, I'm pretty sure Americans are not particularly unique when it comes to that sort of thing. As if the rest of the world is some kind of selfless paradise, and we're the only ones that spend money on luxuries over charity.

Sounds to me like its getting political with the talk about America's economic policies to other countries. Just watch what you say.

stillakid
09-20-2003, 11:43 PM
Hmm, I expected to be taken to task for that one. :D

What I'm suggesting, however, is that it is a fine line between truly altruistic giving and outright selfish charity.

While before I suggested that the byproduct of selfish giving was being able to help others, the reverse could be true as well. The byproduct of helping someone else is a warm fuzzy feeling for yourself. But either way, most people get that sense of self-satisfaction when they give time and/or money to others in need. While that might not be the intention, it comes nonetheless.

I suppose the question is, how often would you be willing to "give" when the reward would remain very unseen to you? For instance, just last week, I was coming home late from work so I pulled into a Taco Bell drive-thru. I peeked into my rearview mirror after ordering and saw a somewhat tired looking mother ordering something presumably for her little kid. This was like 10 at night, waaay past the kid's bedtime. Anyhow, I had had a pretty good day so I was in a good mood despite the time and fatigue, so when I got to the window, I paid for mine and for the car behind me. I got my food and drove away before the other car even made it to the window.

What I got out of that was the satisfaction for myself of knowing that I probably made somebody smile when she was least expecting it. Sure, it wasn't much as far as money goes, but often it's the small things...the unexpected. But the point is, did I do it for me...or for her? Well, both really, and I suppose that's what I'm getting at when I say that few people do this sort of thing to feel "terrible." We're all selfishly motivated on some level whether we like to admit it or not. And what's more, there isn't anything wrong with that...or at least there shouldn't be. Life is short. Enjoy it while you can. If you "give" until it literally hurts, then what's the point of your own life then? Even Ghandi derived a sense of self satisfaction from his actions I sure.

Tonysmo
09-21-2003, 01:01 AM
What a great RAOK. That in itself rules.. Random Act of Kindness.. We should all do that when we can.

as well... NO disrespect to you Stilla, I'd just like to tell you, I enjoy reading your posts, but I do so, a bit different then when I read other posts.. I like to read your posts, with a Monty Python "Holy Grail" verbage. They come off much much better that way. Other fourmites should give it a try..

As for an Insane amount of money... Well, once everyone thing and everyone was taken care of... houses paid off, new cars etc..

Id open a restaurant.. Star Wars style of course. Ive already got the plans semi worked out. Definitly costumed themed. Vader.. the most feared host in the galaxy. He would be the one pointing out the seating arrangements.. Give him two Stormies to guide the patrons to the seats. All the major characters would be represented, Han, Leia, Luke.. etc.. Have a track in-set in the floor. R2 units would be on-track, and have trays on thier heads - ala R2 Jabbas barge.. All food would be brought out on those trays and delievered to the guests. The food of course would be classic american style cusine with cool SW names.. Wookie Burgers,. Jedi snacks.. Blue Milk... etc.. I'd have to sit down and seriously revamp the whole theme if I were to ever be so lucky.. but that would be the intent.. the R2 units on the track would be the best part me thinks..


if that didnt work out, Id buy a HUGE lake,. have some Florida strain Bass thrown in, and fish.. and fish.. and fish...

bobafrett
09-21-2003, 01:12 AM
I'd have a party and not invite any of the forum moderators..........Just kidding! Nobody here would be invited, because you'd all want into my Star Wars room to fondle my collection, and I'd have to get my guard dogs and body guards to get you out of my house. And after all that stres, I'd have to be given a massage by my massage thearapist.

plasticfetish
09-21-2003, 02:28 AM
Economics=politics? :confused:
Yeah, me too really. We're talking charity, not politics.

"Just because mommy and daddy are arguing, doesn't mean we don't love each other anymore dear."

But seriously, it's not "getting political." It could, (I suppose if we tried real hard) but it's not.

Anywho ... Tonysmo has my vote for having the "insane amount of money" now. I'd probably eat at that restaurant every day.

stillakid
09-21-2003, 10:03 AM
NO disrespect to you Stilla, I'd just like to tell you, I enjoy reading your posts, but I do so, a bit different then when I read other posts.. I like to read your posts, with a Monty Python "Holy Grail" verbage. They come off much much better that way. Other fourmites should give it a try..
...

Hmm, thanks, I think. Glad to know I've distinguished myself enough that my words are read, though. :D

scruffziller
09-21-2003, 10:16 AM
Anyhow, I had had a pretty good day so I was in a good mood despite the time and fatigue, so when I got to the window, I paid for mine and for the car behind me. I got my food and drove away before the other car even made it to the window.
Dude, you are a true hero.:happy: It is stuff like that, that keeps the world from spinning completly out of control.


Then I'd buy up huge chunks of farm land and turn Warren County into the organic farming capital of the nation. I'd also have to use my money and influence to buy scruffziller the Mayor's job in his own town ... he can keep the neighbors off my back when I play my stereo too loud. I gladly accept!!!!!!:D



"Gee, I'd love to give money for cancer research ... but, I'm afraid I'd only be doing it to make myself happy."Yea!!!!:D People who use that kind of logic drive me up the wall.



When my friends dad got married a few years ago he handed everyone in the wedding party a stack of cash to use for tips throughout the day of the rehersal. I didn't see it but I guess it was a blast to tip everyone for anything or just giving away money to strangers. $5 to the valet driver to get the car, $10 if he gets it there in less than 3 minutes. :) Now I know it's not necessarily in the same spirit of this thread but it shows that it can you can enjoy handing out money for nothing.
Curious....... did it make you feel.....somewhat powerful........


I love my own company because it means I get things done uninterrupted..What does that make us fellow forumites.........:cry:....................:D

Jargo it sounds like you live in a culture where you are the minority. There seems to be an extremely high concentration of moochers in your domain. Granted there are people like that everywhere but that sounds like you are literally drowning in that 24/7 your whole life where you have no basis for comparison or concept of what some of us on here live and value. Hope you do get those walls of solitude soon. (Not to sound political) Move to the U.S.
At least you'll be far away from those folks.

Exhaust Port
09-21-2003, 10:29 AM
Curious....... did it make you feel.....somewhat powerful........
As I said, I wasn't a part of the festivities that day so I can't vouch for their experience. I just remember my friend saying that it was odd to give away money that wasn't necessariliy his. He had no attachment to the money so it was almost surreal giving it away. Towards the end they were tipping for anything just to get rid of the last of the money. "Hey, thanks for smiling, have a dollar."

jeddah
09-22-2003, 05:45 AM
- Finish building my 1:1 R2 and make some other autonomous R units.
- See my family right
- invest enough to live off
- set about campaigning equal rights for ethnic minorites in the US and UK.
- Make a large investment in exposure of the UFO presence.



jeddah

scruffziller
09-22-2003, 10:52 AM
As I said, I wasn't a part of the festivities that day so I can't vouch for their experience. I just remember my friend saying that it was odd to give away money that wasn't necessariliy his. He had no attachment to the money so it was almost surreal giving it away. Towards the end they were tipping for anything just to get rid of the last of the money. "Hey, thanks for smiling, have a dollar."
My bad. I must have skimmed over that part.

Exhaust Port
09-22-2003, 11:43 AM
No worries. :D

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
09-28-2003, 12:25 AM
*The more you give, the more you get in return I believe. It is important to think of others, spend your money before you die, and make a difference in something other than your own life.*

Wrong.wrong. wrong and wrong. Okay so that's what you believe then I'm very happy for you but reality is that for whatever you give out you'll get little or no return. In this day and age it's every man for himself, stuff everyone else and fight for survival.


I respectfully disagree with you Jargo and here's why.

If you have the means of wealth and you are financially well off, while I wouldn't command it, but I think you have an obligation to society to help those who aren't as well off. A society is measured by the general well being of it's citizens, all of them. If you have such a wide disparity between the haves and have nots, then I don't think it matters how many millionaires you have, or the great technological acheivements that have been advanced, etc., if you cannot take care of, and disregard your own citizens who aren't as fortunate.


Why spend it all before you die? It's more annoying to take it all with you into your cremation or burial plot. All the greedy bastards wanting your loot when you die can all go to hell because you took the money with you. Make a difference how? It takes a hell of a lot more than dishing out cash to make any difference anywhere. And what's wrong with being self absorbed? When you're that rich you don't need anyone as a friend because you can buy them - a dime a dozen. Respect is superfluous really when you have cash to throw around like that. People can grumble all they like but at the end of the day they'll all take a hefty tip or handout so they all turn into butt kissers and spongers. When you're rich all anybody wants is your money and you cease to be a person. the money owns all the personality, the money does the talking for you. So why bother with all that and why not just tell the world where to get off and be selfish and self centred and live a full rich life of hidious excess? **** everyone else, I'm alright

So you are telling me, you'd rather have a $1,000 then a 1,000 friends?

Let me relate to you a story of my great-grandfather who I was not alive to meet, but have heard stories about his generosity from family gatherings. I heard this story from my grandmother (old people are full of stories :D ) just a week ago.

My great-grandfather emmigrated from Italy to the U.S. back in the early 20th century. (He adopted my grandmother some time during the 1920s, so interestingly enough I am not Italian. I don't know why I put that? :confused: )

He tended and eventually owned a bar/restaurant. And from what I hear he was a generous bartender. During hard times if a customer could not afford their meals or tab (and it was often the time during the Depression) he would always tell them, "pay me whatever you can, whenever you can." He put the fact that the person was hungry or needed a drink first, rather that they couldn't pay. He easily could of said "no" since he was taking a potential loss of money, but he understood what it was to be broke as he was often when he first started off.

You think that people would take advantage of him because of this, but from what I heard, that eventually almost all of his customers would come in to pay him back, even if it was a week or month later. When they tried to give him a little extra for his troubles, he always refused.

Little kids from church would come to the restaurant on Sundays after Church and he would feed them for no charge. He would cut breaks left and right for certain customers he knew were having tight times with money (much to the displeasure of my great-grandmother).

And here's the thing. His kindness repaid him tenfold. He had a million friends and that of course is not only good to have in general but for business. He had an excellent reputation.

When he died the funeral director told my grandmother that he could recall few wakes in where he saw standing room only or a funeral procession that had the number of cars. Even to this day, a quarter of a century after his death, he is always mentioned at family gatherings. When my grandfather passed away in June of this year, old friends came by to pay their respects. Many of their conversations entailed my great-grandfather at some point.

While I am not certainly downplaying wealth, I think people often see it as the ultimate judge of a person. They see it as their sole drive; to accumulate and acquire it at all costs. With this drive they often turn into Scrooges. While it is certainly nice to have a few dollars in your pocket, I think it is more important to be liked, loved, and regarded as a good person by others.

Of course I am young and naive, and people often tell me my idealistic notions will change when I get older and get a real job, but that is the way I see it. :p

plasticfetish
09-28-2003, 02:48 AM
A society is measured by the general well being of it's citizens, all of them.
Very nice LBC.
As far as your age is concerned, I would hope that time does little more than confirm your "idealistic notions."

scruffziller
09-28-2003, 08:33 AM
LBC: That was an excellent story. And that ties into my thread of integrity and why my personal definition I think is the most important.http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21342 Plus I guarantee that where your great-grandfather is now he is enjoying the rewards that he earned while on the earth.:)

scruffziller
08-31-2008, 11:28 PM
I was thinking about if I had written this thread subject yet.:D

I started thinking about if I would win the lottery.
If I didn't work because it was not needed, it would be difficult to recreate the joy that you created in the times you had when you did your job. I'm referring to the moments when you make your own fun with the people you work with. Like laughing at them when they goof up, then they call you a name, and then you make a silly comment back, etc. It seems like when you take out that sense of urgency, trying to recreate it without it makes it fizzle out of existence.
I guess it really is the journey and not the destination.

Rocketboy
08-31-2008, 11:35 PM
I'd do two chicks at the same time.

scruffziller
08-31-2008, 11:46 PM
I'd do two chicks at the same time.
I would do 3 chicks at the same time.

Jargo
09-01-2008, 05:43 AM
2003. oooooh I was bitter then. Things have changed.

These days I'm much more at peace with the world. Still like my solitude but i think as long as i could have a section of my house that was private to me i wouldn't care who inhabited the rest. I've discovered that the way I give is not through monetary aid but through non materialistic ways. I'm forever meting people who don't need financial support but rather the support of a stable home and an understanding non judgemental shoulder to lean on.

So i'd probably invite people into my home and give them a room and that sort of support to get back on their feet. provide them with heat and food and a calm environment while letting them have the dignity of helping themselves to get going again. almost like a halfway house but without the sanctimony of official places.

I have an idea for a house that's modular. almost like a commune, round hut style pods encircling a main living area. situated in a man made glade. peaceful surroundings where one can commune with the universe and oneself.

I still don't believe in financial handouts but there are other organic ways to help people.

scruffziller
09-01-2008, 09:35 AM
I still don't believe in financial handouts but there are other organic ways to help people.
True. And that is one of the approaches that I have taken to one of my good friends who is a washed up person. This is a bit of a stretch from what you mean Jargo, but your statement reminded me of it. My friend Larry, is in his mid 40s, he has never had a driver's license, he gets drunk every night and hunting for soda cans is his primary source of income. For those of you who don't know, in Iowa, USA; most soda, beer, cans and bottles have a 5 cent deposit on them.
Every time I go to visit, him and his wife need money for something. Food, beer, cigarettes, toilet paper etc. So rather than give him money and take time to drive him to the store, I bring him some essential groceries. Because I cannot enjoy myself, spending time with him if him and his wife are hungry to the point where they are getting headaches. They are miserable, so we don't have a good time because they are preoccupied by hunger. Now, I could easily never go see him again. But he is one of my best friends. And he is that, because he is into the same stuff I am and he is not judgmental of anything I am all about. He and his wife really listen and really connect with me making me feel good about myself. And to me, that is like the church that I need to go to that is relevant in my life. Because of that, it deserves a tithe. My dad may have taught me how to be self sustaining through harsh logic, but Larry is the father figure that has nurtured what my dad never understood.

Bel-Cam Jos
09-01-2008, 09:56 AM
Well, a truly INSANE amount of monetary obtaining (and when I saw the thread title, I thought it was one of those language translators :allyourbasearebelongtous: re-translated :D ) would be all those zeroes to the RIGHT of the decimal point! :crazed: :pleased:

- I would cancel out all my close family's debts (although the definition of "close" would probably get me in the doghouse with some more distant relatives).

- I would build onto my current home, the way I've wanted to the past few years.

- I would travel to the places I want to go, regardless of "off season" times.

- I would set up the help systems I think would benefit the most people locally, to serve as a model for other places not-so-local.

- I would take college courses for fun and knowledge, maybe not even at local universities.

- I would buy a gallon of gas. :o

scruffziller
09-01-2008, 11:16 AM
(and when I saw the thread title, I thought it was one of those language translators :allyourbasearebelongtous: re-translated :D ) would be all those zeroes to the RIGHT of the decimal point! :crazed: :pleased:


These days I aim to type simpler explanations without the overuse of gratuitous words. Due to my A.D.D. medication.;)

El Chuxter
09-01-2008, 11:42 AM
Buy a lot of cheese.

Blue2th
09-01-2008, 01:26 PM
I would buy an amphibian floatplane learn how to fly it and go island hopping, visit the place in Kiribati where I was born that's abandoned now.

I would almost do it by sailboat, but that takes too long.

Jargo
09-01-2008, 02:51 PM
i'm curious as to why chux would buy so much cheese and no refridgerated container to store it in. sounds like he has a cunning plan....

it's hard to make gifting stuff like food and essentials not seem like do-gooder charity but genuine heartfelt kindness.

but as you say scruff, good company and a real human connection is reward enough.

TeeEye7
09-01-2008, 03:20 PM
I have an idea for a house that's modular. almost like a commune, round hut style pods encircling a main living area. situated in a man made glade. peaceful surroundings where one can commune with the universe and oneself.

....and when you get sick of your house guests, the module would have the hidden ability of being jettisoned like an escape pod! :yes: ;)

Then, you just replace it with a new one since you have the resources! :thumbsup:

Mad Slanted Powers
09-01-2008, 04:41 PM
What good is a house if you have no one to come over? I know one extremely wealthy person and he suffers from depression because, as it turns out, money can't buy happiness. He has no close friends and spends his days sitting in his house alone, that's it.I spend most of my time in my house alone as it is. Having a lot of money would probably attract a lot of people looking for handouts.

I figure I could probably be set for life with just a couple million. The first million I could use to buy a new house and outfit it with all new appliances and gadgets, and make sure I have what I need to store and display my collection. I'd also get a new car. I'd probably still have plenty of the first million left, so I'm not sure what I would do with it. The problem with charity is that there are so many worthy causes, it would be hard to choose which ones to give to. Give too much to too many and then there is nothing left. Plus there are plenty of organizations that might not be the best place to donate money too. Either they aren't efficient in getting the money to those that need it, or maybe they are just phony altogether. Perhaps I would just set up some sort of fund for the schools I went to and set aside the rest for whatever might come up. I'd certainly give some to family members, but wouldn't want to become a welfare provider for them. I'd be willing to help out in desperate situations such as medical issues.

With the other million, I could live off the interest. If I could get 4 or 5 percent on a CD, the interest on a million would be more than I make in a year. Without a house payment, I could probably get by with less than I make now.

When I die, I'd leave it to family and a few selected charities, schools or organizations.


True. And that is one of the approaches that I have taken to one of my good friends who is a washed up person. This is a bit of a stretch from what you mean Jargo, but your statement reminded me of it. My friend Larry, is in his mid 40s, he has never had a driver's license, he gets drunk every night and hunting for soda cans is his primary source of income. For those of you who don't know, in Iowa, USA; most soda, beer, cans and bottles have a 5 cent deposit on them.
Every time I go to visit, him and his wife need money for something. Food, beer, cigarettes, toilet paper etc. So rather than give him money and take time to drive him to the store, I bring him some essential groceries. Because I cannot enjoy myself, spending time with him if him and his wife are hungry to the point where they are getting headaches. They are miserable, so we don't have a good time because they are preoccupied by hunger. Now, I could easily never go see him again. But he is one of my best friends. And he is that, because he is into the same stuff I am and he is not judgmental of anything I am all about. He and his wife really listen and really connect with me making me feel good about myself. And to me, that is like the church that I need to go to that is relevant in my life. Because of that, it deserves a tithe. My dad may have taught me how to be self sustaining through harsh logic, but Larry is the father figure that has nurtured what my dad never understood.It sounds as if the charity this guy needs is to have some sense slapped into him. If he wasn't getting drunk every night, maybe he'd be able to do a little better than collecting cans to provide for himself and his wife. Perhaps as a friend you could motivate and help him to do better, or point him to the resources that can.

scruffziller
09-02-2008, 03:15 PM
It sounds as if the charity this guy needs is to have some sense slapped into him. If he wasn't getting drunk every night, maybe he'd be able to do a little better than collecting cans to provide for himself and his wife. Perhaps as a friend you could motivate and help him to do better, or point him to the resources that can.
Yep, and he has been slapped around most of his life for stuff like this. He will never change and it will kill him. Many times he tells me his plans of getting his life on track. And I know he is sincere, but he is mentally challenged with Bi-Polar disorder. People with Down Syndrome, Bi-Polar, A.D.D., 6 feet under. We are all the same.:(

Neuroleptic
09-02-2008, 05:00 PM
Well, I suppose the first thing I'd do is say, "Oh my god I won!"

. . . then I'd pay off the house and credit cards (used to fix up said house. They aren't to the point where we can't pay them off, but they are still a necesary pain when it came to buying this house).

Then, I'd have a fully furnished nuclear bomb shelter biult in my back yard, essentualy acting as a second home. This isn't such a bad idea since it would be safer than being in my house here in Kansas during Tornado season, and I'd keep my star wars collection there since it would now be out of the way of my wife (who tolerates it but dosn't like it) and I'd still have it (and more!).

I'd convert the house we have now to full electric, replace the ceiling. It has a false sealing in the living room and kitchen since it's a church from 1903. that was converted into a house. I lifted up the ceiling tiles and the church celing is still in good shape, but it would cost waaaaaay too much to heat and cool since at it's highest point it is nearly a second story tall of nothing but empty space.

Then I'd quit my job so I could go to school full time, become an art teacher, and pay the local high school to let me teach there, as well as pay for all supplies, and maybe even a remodel for the class room during the summer.

And if I STILL had money left over, i'd live off the interest.

Jargo
09-02-2008, 05:22 PM
I just remembered my original dream for when i became rich. it's kinda got a few parts but basically i want a large building. an old church would do. or a dockside brick built warehouse. inside i'd have a gentlemen's club. all comfy leather chairs and bookcases and massive palms in huge pots. rich colours on the walls and subdued lighting. perhaps have music but i like the idea of a non music place. everywhere blasts music at you 24/7 so a bit of quiet might be nice. anyway so there's the club, then there'd be a health spa with steam room and pool and masseur (or is that masseuse to you?) anyway one of those dudes. plus other associated stuff.
I'd have a proper gents barber, and a clothing emporium.
the twist to it all is that it would all be catered to the shorter guy. height restrictions would apply to membership and anyone over 5'8" would not be allowed to join. the clothing would all be small, extra small and extra extra small and ladies would only allowed in one day a month. provided they'd been vetted and approved by the club secretary.
i think in this day and age of supersized humans that it's about time someone did something for the short dudes of which there are many. and created an environment where everyone is on the same eye level, where shopping for clothes means that the stuff will fit right. (the rounder gentleman would have to buy stuff special order though)

every place i go to is brash and loud and nowhere ever has any small sized clothes (which is just plain stupid considering that the small clothes are the first to sell out and at the end of season it's all the large clothes that hit clearance racks thuus proving that the buyers for the stores don't know their arse from their elbow) and bars and counters are all really high and short dudes can't reach. I mean some bars are damn near five feet high. talk about making a guy feel inferior.

so i'd create a haven for shortarses and bring a smile to the faces of the oppressed and overlooked.

*giggles at last sentence.*

Mr. JabbaJohnL
09-02-2008, 05:36 PM
We tall people rule the world, that's just how it is. ;) :D

Honestly, if I had a s***load of money, I would build and maintain a full-scale, completely accurate replica of Pee-wee's Playhouse. (I had the idea before I saw it on Family Guy, too.) Hell, I would hire people to work the puppets and stuff. I've loved that set for a long time.

More realistically, though, I would have a huge room for my Star Wars stuff so it could be spread out and done like I want it, with all the scenes (or at least major ones) represented as they were seen on-screen. I wouldn't be able to start it for sure until after they end the line, though.

Ando
09-02-2008, 05:50 PM
- Quit my job, help my dad retire (we work together), give my coworkers a generous and healthy severance and help them find new jobs. I'm kinda burned out but I love my coworkers.
- Pay off my wife's student loans.
- Pay off immediate family loans/debts (in laws, too).
- Build a house for me and the wife.
- Invest the money and live off the interest.
- New cars. Nothing fancy, just new cars. Both of ours are paid for.
- Travel.
- Open a toy store (rehire coworkers if they want to work with/for me again).
- Play with my little nephews and build a really cool basement toy/play room for my clones.
- Spend a lot of time reading.
- Get rid of my cell phone.
- Take naps.
- Get a hot tub.
- Start walking.
- Go to the beach and the mountains.
- Travel the country by RV or SUV.
- Do the stuff I like to do when I'm not at work.
- Charity work.
- Adopt some babies that need a good home.
- Take some comm. college classes.
- Build a Batmobile that I can drive around in at night.
- Host fun parties with my wife so we can see all of our friends who are as busy as we are.
- Travel to see friends that don't live very close to us.
- Get some kitties.
- Spend time with my mom and dad, especially dad because we don't have work to interfere with our relationship anymore.
- Take a cruise.
- Go camping.
- Buy season tickets to the UO Duck Football games.
- Go to the away games, too.
- Start going to SDCC and other conventions and meet some of you nice people.
- Play more, worry less.
- Volunteer my time and energy to worthy cause.

Thank you for starting this thread. It was a nice little daydream.

Phantom-like Menace
09-03-2008, 01:01 AM
Great post, Ando. Made me smile.

I've always liked the movie Office Space, because when asked what he would do if he didn't have to do anything, his answer was nothing. I'm a big fan of doing nothing, so I always laugh that so many lottery workers have to declare bankruptcy because of lavish spending. There's no way I'm going to put that money in jeopardy. That's my sitting around and doing nothing money.

I don't need a fancy car, though if I just had millions of dollars with nothing to do with it, I might conceivably get something really nice for special occasions but some kind of little import to drive around town. I could see having an Aston Martin that I drive maybe once a month to go out to dinner, but driving a Toyota the rest of the time.

I don't need a house of any great size, but I do want room for the collection. I could imagine getting a simple three or four bedroom house but adding some kind of addition or separate structure for the collection and a pool table, bar, beer fridge; just your average dream Man Cave but with appropriate additions for my outer child.

The family would have to be taken care of. I'd pay off their debts. My parents would get a house, my dad his dream property for hunting, and I'd take care of my two brothers, get them both houses. I might see if I can track down my younger brother's Firebird that he had to trade in. I'm sure he misses it more than he lets on.

Otherwise, I'd travel a lot. If I had enough money, the big lavish expense for me would probably be a very modest home in Spain and one in Japan. Both Spanish and Japanese are languages I've studied and wish to know better. I'd probably spend more time out of the country than in the country. I'd probably spend enough time in some other foreign countries to learn the language and maybe even enough time to justify renting an apartment.

Edit: I forgot Option B for displaying the collection. When I worked at Sam Goody a couple years ago and the Special Editions were coming out on DVD, my manager (one of my best friends) asked if I could bring part of my collection in to display at a kiosk in the mall to draw customers to the DVDs. I agreed. It was really nice having some of my collection out on display and being ejoyed by passersby. They otherwise just sit on shelves or in plastic containers and bring joy only to me.

I thought once that it would be cool to have enough money to rent a building or space in a building to set up a toy museum of sorts. Nothing specific, just something to allow others to come in and appreciate the toys that I appreciate. It wouldn't be something I'd even want to charge admision for, and I imagine it would annoy the crap out of me declining offers to buy part of it. It would just be a place to build dioramas and maybe keep the local kids and collectors coming back to see what new things I've added from time to time.

scruffziller
09-04-2008, 11:12 AM
Thank you for starting this thread. It was a nice little daydream.
You're welcome.:)

jediguy
09-04-2008, 03:26 PM
if I suddenly came into tons of money I would donate it all to charity

scruffziller
09-05-2008, 07:48 AM
if I suddenly came into tons of money I would donate it all to charity
If you live in Des Moines, Iowa Jediguy; I know that statement you made has to be made in a facetious light.:D

I know because I live in Indianola!! The member Plasticfetish has relatives that live in Norwalk.

mtriv73
09-05-2008, 09:31 AM
-Sock away money for college for my son, my niece and nephews, and my cousins kids
-Pay off the house (maybe build a bigger one)
-Buy myself an Audi R8 (I'd keep the A6 I got this summer though)
-Buy my wife a Volvo
-Keep my job because I love what I do and I'm good at it, but give back my salary so we could hire me some help
-Travel to Europe and all around the Med.
-Donate heavily to H.E.R.O. for Children (http://www.heroforchildren.org/)

-Invest the rest and live off the dividends

jediguy
09-05-2008, 09:50 AM
If you live in Des Moines, Iowa Jediguy; I know that statement you made has to be made in a facetious light.:D

I know because I live in Indianola!! The member Plasticfetish has relatives that live in Norwalk.

I would indeed donate the money to charity

I give to the needy, not the greedy :whip:

Hmm-mmm, that's right

Phantom-like Menace
09-05-2008, 11:09 AM
I just figured Charity was a single mom . . . um . . . working to pay for college :whip: and she'd receive the money a dollar bill at a time on Fridays, and sometimes Saturdays . . . and sometimes in the middle of the week if you've got nothing better to do.

mtriv73
09-05-2008, 01:27 PM
I give to the needy, not the greedy :whip:

Hmm-mmm, that's right


What a man, what a man, what a mighty good man.

TeeEye7
09-06-2008, 05:55 PM
I've always wanted to be able to fund full-ride scholarships in my parent's names at their respective colleges where they graduated. The kick would be that they wouldn't be for mega-smart or uber-underprivileged as there is already monies and programs in place to address those students.

These scholarships would be for the normal, hardworking, "B" students who do not qualify for financial aid, or academic scholarships (there are good students who just don't test well...*raises hand*) and whose parents can make college happen, but have to stretch to make it so. Taking financial stress away equals a huge thing.

There are several charities and non-profit organizations I favor that I would anonymously donate "generous sums" to.

Naturally, I'd be a bit selfish as I would like to travel the world since I would have the means. If I wanted to have lunch with Jargo and then dinner with sergiurusu, I'd do it! I love to see sights I've only read about and have the opportunity to visit family and friends at will. The year I lived in Spain really opened my eyes and I'd like to see and experience more places!