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DarthBrandon
10-10-2003, 11:54 AM
This just in from TFN

absolutely epic opening space battle, the droid general has escaped, Palpatine has been rescued and Dooku is dead. Unfortunately, the Seperatist cruiser that Obi-Wan, Anakin and Palpatine is on, has now broken apart and tumbles into the atmosphere of Coruscant. The "Coruscant Fire Department" sends up fire ships to help guide the ship in for as safe of a crash landing as they can manage. This certainly is a "Grevious" situation. Haha, I've been wanting to say that. Anyhow, this seems like a reasonable explanation to the Fire Ship idea, I've been wondering how that would fit in. It makes sense that a city planet would have a way to fight fires and rescue people from extreme situations. This could be the reason several "extreme wind" situations have been called for on set.
-Anakin expects to be treated with more respect by the Jedi order now after having killed Dooku and rescuing Palpatine. When the droid general is tracked down, Obi-Wan is sent off on the mission to take him down, not Anakin. Palpatine, in response to his being kidnapped, uses this as a foil to upgrade his security and make Anakin his personal bodyguard. Another step for Anakin to be closer to Palpatine and in the future the Dark Side. He is getting prideful with slaying Dooku, and we see him now separated from Obi-Wan yet again. A receipe for disaster. And "upgrading the security" sure sounds like the Red Guards finally get much deserved recognition.

- Anakin does indeed have to make a "choice" in the film. That choice is given to him by Palpatine. In response, Mace Windu chooses to try and defend himself. This sounds like it fits with the Palpidious SPY REPORT earlier this week. Anakin is guarding Palpatine, per the spoiler above, and Mace comes for a visit. We see a flash of the ROJ Palpatine, then he unloads on Mace. Anakin and Mace duel, with Mace going down hard - sealing Anakin's embrace of the Dark Side.


Sounds like a real thriller, I hope Mace doesn't get killed by Anakin, but by Palpatine.

The Overlord Returns
10-10-2003, 01:10 PM
Well one things for sure...this shhould finally put a rest to the "Mace is evil" speculation........

Simdog
10-10-2003, 01:54 PM
I thought I read that Mace would commit suicide and wouldn't go out like a punk. I hope neither Anakin or Palpy kills Mace, instead he should go out with a blaze of glory like the original rumours.

plo koon 200
10-10-2003, 02:29 PM
The report is not too detailed, just commentary by that annoying TFN guy. Anyways Mace sacricing himself is still a possibility according to this spy report. All that is said is that Palpatine is the one that gives him the choice and Mace must defend himself. We don't even know what the choice is. There is a multitude of things that can be going on. The only thing that seems to fit well together at the moment is the begining, that is of course saying that those earlier spy reports were not false. But I would not be surprised if they were fake becuse they sounded kind of Matrix like to me, you know running up along walls and everything.

Jargo
10-10-2003, 03:05 PM
Suicide isn't the punks way out? Now there's an interesting topic for discussion. In my eyes a warrior would see suicide as the cowards way out. I have a feeling that Mace will go out with a familiar vanishing act or be cut apart like a rag doll.

plo koon 200
10-11-2003, 12:04 AM
Remember Jargo Obi-Wan commited suicide so Luke could get free. He was not a coward. He was doing the honorable thing. Rumour has it that Mace does a similiar thing, but this time letting Obi-Wan off the hook. From what I was told Anakin goes after Obi-Wan but Mace buys Obi-wan some time by sacing himself.

TFN will likely tell you more about this later. But a source of mine told me that this is going to happen. So far everything my source has told me, TFN has mentioed. But TFN has also mentioned some things that are a tad bit inconsitant.

I also heard that after Mace sacs himself that is when the Duel begins and the go througout all of Coruscant and leap through many builings, etc. But I was told this before the filming began. But from what Hyperspace said, it seems true.

RooJay
10-13-2003, 02:35 PM
Remember Jargo Obi-Wan commited suicide so Luke could get free.

Obi Wan didn't "commit suicide" (to commit suicide would be to die by your own hand) - he, more or less, allowed himself to be struck down; there is a difference, however subtle. I had always had the impression that Obi Wan had known that Vader would end up killing him in that duel anyway, and simply didn't try to fight his destiny.

[DSS]Pedr0
10-13-2003, 02:53 PM
Obi Wan didn't "commit suicide" (to commit suicide would be to die by your own hand) - he, more or less, allowed himself to be struck down; there is a difference, however subtle. I had always had the impression that Obi Wan had known that Vader would end up killing him in that duel anyway, and simply didn't try to fight his destiny.
Wait a sec, was he struck down or did he become one with the FORCE before being "hit"? I was under the impression he vanished like Yoda did with the FORCE, not by Vader's saber.......... :confused:

RooJay
10-13-2003, 04:50 PM
Pedr0']Wait a sec, was he struck down or did he become one with the FORCE before being "hit"? I was under the impression he vanished like Yoda did with the FORCE, not by Vader's saber.......... :confused:

He became one with the Force when he was struck down; much as Yoda became one with the Force when he died of old age.

plo koon 200
10-13-2003, 05:02 PM
Obi Wan didn't "commit suicide" (to commit suicide would be to die by your own hand) - he, more or less, allowed himself to be struck down; there is a difference, however subtle. I had always had the impression that Obi Wan had known that Vader would end up killing him in that duel anyway, and simply didn't try to fight his destiny.

Sorry RooJay. Just using the word Jargo used.

I don't know if Obi Wan was not fighting his destiny. I think he could have escaped. He was merely giving Luke more time.

RooJay
10-13-2003, 05:26 PM
Sorry RooJay. Just using the word Jargo used.

I don't know if Obi Wan was not fighting his destiny. I think he could have escaped. He was merely giving Luke more time.

I think had he not faced that bit of destiny, that Luke most likely would not have had enough time and that Obi Wan's death at that moment was necessary to facilitate Luke's escape, thus helping to set up many of the events which followed.

TheDarthVader
10-13-2003, 06:07 PM
This report sounds good if it is true. I would love to see a "fire ship" and it's crew putting out fires and helping rescue people. I think this is a cool idea. Thanks for the information!