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Kidhuman
11-05-2003, 12:38 PM
Going off of Tycho's thread about ships being made, which playsets would you like to see?

Death Star Playset
Hoth Playset
Owen and Berus Farm
Imperial Attack Base
Dagobah
Ewok Village
Endor Battle Playset
Bespin Playset
Mos Eisly Cantina
Jabba's Palace
Sarlaac Pit
Tatooine Playset
Dex's Diner
Jedi Library
Vaders Meditating Room
Star Destroyer
Geonosian Battle(Dooku, Obi, Ani, Yoda)
Geonosian Wasteland?(Halfire Droids, Speeders scene)
Rerelease of Carbonite Playset


Any others?

Battle Droid
11-05-2003, 02:37 PM
Jedi Temple Analysis Room for SP-4 & JN-66.

bobafrett
11-05-2003, 03:17 PM
The rebel base on Yavin. I know they made this for the Micro machines, but I'd like to see something done for the 3.75 inch figures.

Turbowars
11-05-2003, 05:56 PM
I don't want anymore Playsets. You want to know why? Because Hasbro has no clue on how to make a good Playset. For one, I rather make a Diorama than wait for Hasbro to come through. 2, I don't play with my toys and 3 the scale is so off it turns me off.

LusiferSam
11-05-2003, 07:21 PM
Death Star Playset yes
Hoth Playset you need to be more specific
Owen and Berus Farm no
Imperial Attack Base yes, but this time Rebel Attack Base
Dagobah yes
Ewok Village yes
Endor Battle Playset maybe
Bespin Playset yes
Mos Eisly Cantina yes
Jabba's Palace yes
Sarlaac Pit maybe
Tatooine Playset can anyone said sand box, no
Dex's Diner no
Jedi Library no
Vaders Meditating Room yes
Star Destroyer yes, I have lots of ideas for this one
Geonosian Battle(Dooku, Obi, Ani, Yoda) maybe
Geonosian Wasteland?(Halfire Droids, Speeders scene) no
Rerelease of Carbonite Playset yes

tagmac
11-05-2003, 07:22 PM
Most of the old playsets were pretty much just hunks of plastic, although the Ewok Village would be worth revisiting. However, if they ever remade the "Imperial Attack" playset, they should skip the inaccurate vintage name and call it by it's real name: Rebel Trench playset.

JEDIpartner
11-06-2003, 09:22 AM
The Death Star would be worth revisitng. A couple of slight tweaks to the vintage one and it would be fine. I think what most people are asking for in a Death Star playset is rather ridiculous. It's a playset we are asking for... not a scale representational diorama. Get the difference?

kool-aid killer
11-06-2003, 09:55 AM
I would like to see the Ewok village be released. That one doesnt seem to have any glaring mistakes or propotion size problems. My mob of five Ewoks need a home to welcome the others that should one day be made.

stillakid
11-06-2003, 10:28 AM
The Death Star would be worth revisitng. A couple of slight tweaks to the vintage one and it would be fine. I think what most people are asking for in a Death Star playset is rather ridiculous. It's a playset we are asking for... not a scale representational diorama. Get the difference?


I'll still campaign for my all-in-one Death Star playset.

Roughly, the same height as the vintage Death Star playset. When closed up, it's a globe with detailing that makes it a fine display Death Star like has never before been created. It opens into 4 wedges, each with interconnected play areas.

With a playset this size, all of the attributes of the ANH battlestation as well as the ROTJ additions could easily be included adding tremendous value, both for play and economy.

It would be slightly more expensive than than the typical cardboard cutout playsets that we've been offered, but the cache and originality of it would attract young and old alike.

While the above ideas of having Hasbro release separate interlocking pieces isn't a bad idea, I don't think that they would be nearly as marketable as one giant kick-*** looking Death Star sitting on a toy shelf. If you build it, they will come.



For clarification, this is a whole globe with a slightly flattened bottom. Imagine taking the vintage Death Star playset and adding a curved "shell" to it. That would be one of the wedges.

I think that it would work out best to have one half be one of the pieces then split the other half into two wedges. The side that is an entire half could have longer areas in it, like hallways with blastdoors or even a hangar bay. The wedges could have the Emperor's chamber at the top and the trash compactor at the bottom. Suffice it to say that there is a lot of room to integrate many of the favorite Death Star attributes. The vintage playset had a 21" tall elevator which could be used as a central "core" to connect the pieces together. The entire playset would likely top out around 2' tall (and around) once you put the curved shell on it.

They charge whatever they want to...whatever they think they can get. A 3" action figure doesn't cost anywhere near $7 bucks to design, manufacture, and distribute when they make a lot of them. They charge that money because they know they can get it. Look at the price drops in the Queen's ship, the 12" Dewback, the 12" "pegwarmers", pegwarmer's in general. Somebody is still making a little profit at those enormous price cuts. That's why they stop dropping the price tag at a certain point, otherwise they'd just give them away for free. So this playset might have a real cost of $50 to $75 to produce and distribute, which they would inflate to around $150 retail. That is a lot of money, but people are generally willing to accept the cost if they perceive the value in the product. I of course guessed at those costs, but I averaged out what I think is the real cost (lower) and what I think they'd ask for (higher). My honest opinion is that it would cost less per unit to make and distribute and a fair retail price would be around $100. I factored in the greed-profit motive.

I'd buy it and I believe that a lot of other people would too. The Queen's ship sat on clearance shelves (I believe) due to a poor lead-in (TPM wasn't as good as the classic trilogy). A really cool looking classic trilogy toy will get the parent's attention (late 20's to late 30's) (nearly everybody liked the classic trilogy) and no kid could resist a toy that huge. It would sell out. Almost guaranteed.

Just like an actual movie set, so much more could be done with independent playsets as some people have suggested, so naturally there would some compromise within each "scene" for an all-in-one playset idea.

I haven't drawn plans up yet (but maybe soon!), but I'll try to give some written clues as to this hypothetical dream.

Docking Bay 327 (the big problem): This would be located on the lower portion of the complete "half." Like so many playsets before this, sadly because of size restrictions, the Falcon would have to be represented by a photo backdrop, but there really is no way to squeeze the Falcon Toy or the Shuttle Tyderium (sp?) into a hangar-type playset that isn't absolutely gargantuan. The good news is that the "room" could have blast doors off to one side for recreation of the duel. If Hasbro went all out, they could include a floor panel that slid out from the "half" to give more floor space to line up Stormtroopers on.

DB327 control room (the red room): Right above the Hangar space, in the mid-section of the "half."

The Elevator Bank: The central core of the entire playset, constructed in the same way as the vintage model. It integrates the elevator action as well as the tractor beam control walkway.

The Outer Detention area: Just above the Garbage Compactor.

The Detention Block hallway: In the next wedge over and on the same level as the Outer Detention Area.

Garbage Chute: In the wedge opposite and just above the one with the Compactor as part of the Outer Detention Area.

The Tractor Beam Controls: As above, integrated into the cental elevator column.

The Rope Swing: An abitrary placement of an extended bridge from one wedge to another or to the central column, ala vintage version.

The Vader/Ben Duel: Lower level of the "half," off to the side of the hangar bay area.

The Blast Doors: Integrated into hangar Bay.

Plus various hallways that Ben sneaks through or Han howls through: N/A

Add to that the Throne room, which from the post above is a giant playset unto itself: The entire upper level of all three pieces (one half, two wedges)

And finally, the nature of the design excludes 50% of the play space because it has to represent the "Outside" of the Death Star: Some of the "rooms" would need straight walls, so indeed some of that trapped curved space would be lost to outright play, however it could be utilized as storage and/or use breakaway panels for guntowers to pop out of or something.

I've been playing around with the vintage Death Star and trying to "connect" the playset pieces that we got a couple years ago with some success. It takes a little reconfiguration and some extra supports but I've managed to rig up the Detention Hallway so that the heroes can really fall into the bright orange compactor. The Rope Swing is a little tougher to integrate into the old design, but it can go just about anywhere so long as it gets supported so that it is on "level 2." I'm still trying to figure out the best way to remove the gun emplacement on the top level and replace it with the Emperor's throne. Doing all that stuff got me thinking about a well-designed playset like the one I'm suggesting. I think that it is possible and for a reasonable cost. But with the way Hasbro feels about releasing the Shuttle, I don't forsee any realistic hope of it ever happening from them. Looks like a custom job!



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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi

I was thinking insteads of a "slide out" docking bay floor, how about a "panel" that separates the two wedge quarters from the wedge half. When you open up the DS, the panel folds down to reveal a docking bay floor. Hinged on the edge of this is a "hangar bay entrance" that folds up and locks in between the two quarters. Two feet x Two feet might almost be big enough for a shuttle or a Falcon to stand in. just an idea.

It's lookin' good, though. I can sort of see it in my mind.
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Originally posted by stillakid

That's a good idea! There's probably a way to work in a flourescent "magnetic hangar bay" frame as well to complete the look.
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STAR DESTROYER!
Based on the idea for the Death Star playset, a redesigned Star Destroyer is a must. It could easily be the size of the Queen's ship and look pretty authentic on the outside...

...and when you remove the exterior panels, you've got maximum playability inside. With a slightly shorter profile than the vintage edition, Vader's meditation chamber could easily be fit in near the back where the tower is. Add in a main bridge area and we're good to go.

The underside "docking area" obviously wouldn't be big enough to fit a 3 3/4" scale vehicle, but then again there aren't any! Instead, Micromachines could slide in to fulfill the need for flight play.

The engines could house blue lights.

There could be a hatch coming from the tower which "releases" garbage and is big enough for the Micromachines Slave I.

Skip the ridiculous big dart firing guns and integrate that technology into the front end or sides of the ship if necessary.

Reactor balls on the towers could be "explodable" to recreate ROTJ fun!

Who wouldn't buy this ship? The only reason I can imagine being hit with is that the Queen's ship didn't sell that well. First off, the movie wasn't as well received as the original trilogy so that might have something to do with it. Secondly, practically everybody alive (allow slight exaggeration) knows what a Star Destroyer is. Reluctant parents on the Queen's ship would probably cave in to Jr's wishes on this one.



My overall mission would be to bring a re-creation of the exteriors of these ships and playsets to the play portion of the set itself. If you remember the vintage Death Star and vintage Star Destroyer, both were short on the asthetics dept. They just didn't look like the things from the movies. I truly believe that the more a toy looks recognizable from the outside, the more likely consumers will buy it, no matter what the cost, especially if it is from the original trilogy, which everyone loved. (Not the prequels, which many people didn't.)

stillakid
11-06-2003, 10:33 AM
Going off of Tycho's thread about ships being made, which playsets would you like to see?

Death Star Playset
Hoth Playset
Owen and Berus Farm
Imperial Attack Base
Dagobah
Ewok Village
Endor Battle Playset
Bespin Playset
Mos Eisly Cantina
Jabba's Palace
Sarlaac Pit
Tatooine Playset
Dex's Diner
Jedi Library
Vaders Meditating Room
Star Destroyer
Geonosian Battle(Dooku, Obi, Ani, Yoda)
Geonosian Wasteland?(Halfire Droids, Speeders scene)
Rerelease of Carbonite Playset


Any others?

I'd also love to see well-designed versions of the Mos Eisley Cantina, a bigger version of Dagobah, Jabba's Palace, and a redesigned Ewok Village. Some exterior dome and vaporator pieces for the Skywalker Estate would be interesting too.

From the Prequels I think that Dex's Diner would be interesting as well as a Senate building, which wouldn't be too difficult to make actually. Also, maybe the Jedi Council room. I'd also like to see something done with Kamino.

Kidhuman
11-06-2003, 10:37 AM
Kamino wouldnt be bad. After all, the released Obi and JAngo battle. Why not give themthe landing platform for Slave1 and there you have the whole scene.

Val Da Car
11-06-2003, 11:24 AM
What about generic Hangar Walls and flooring that can be used for a Hoth hangar scene, Imperial Hanger or Rebel hangar that houses the ships before launching.

colinmarsh00
11-06-2003, 05:27 PM
simple answer for me, none. the past playsets have all sucked except the detention escape one way back in '96 or something. even so, i don't dig playsets.

mark2d2
11-07-2003, 03:54 AM
Death Star Playset (YES! JUST RETOOL THE VINTAGE! ! !)
Hoth Playset (No.)
Owen and Berus Farm (YES!)
Imperial Attack Base (NO)
Dagobah (YES! BUT LOW ON MY LIST)
Ewok Village (NO)
Endor Battle Playset (NO)
Bespin Playset (YES! LEIA'S QUARTERS WITH ATTACHED HALLWAY)
Mos Eisly Cantina (I'LL TAKE THIS ANYWAY I CAN. FINISHING THE BAR WITH A CURVED PIECE. MAYBE A BOOTH OR TWO. OR AN ALL NEW HUGE PLAYSET ARENA SIZE WOULD TOTALLY ROCK!)
Jabba's Palace (YES! JUST HIS DAIS WOULD THRILL ME.)
Sarlaac Pit (NO!)
Tatooine Playset (YES! SEE BELOW FOR SPECIFICS. . .)
Dex's Diner (GOD NO.)
Jedi Library (NOPE.)
Vaders Meditating Room (MAYBE AS PART OF STAR DESTROYER)
Star Destroyer (YES! COULD BE REALLY COOL.)
Geonosian Battle(Dooku, Obi, Ani, Yoda) (NO!)
Geonosian Wasteland?(Halfire Droids, Speeders scene) (NO!)
Rerelease of Carbonite Playset (NO! IT'S A GREAT TOY, BUT A RERELEASE IN NOT NECESSARY.)


Okay, here is my dream Tatooine creation.

I call it: TATOOINE CANYON: JAWA / SAND PEOPLE ATTACK!!!

This dual playset can be used to recreate not one, but two Classic scenes!

Basically it is a really well-sculpted rocky base --- complete with a cave for Jawas -- and later Artoo -- to hide in. :) The rear should have a rocky canyon wall about twelve inches or so high. For a groovy "vintage" touch there is a groovy recreation of the Land of the Jawas Action feature for the pivoting Jawa to shoot Artoo -- knocking him over of course!. And also, another mechanism spins three additional figures. (Tusken Raiders -- of course! But again, this could be used with the Jawas as well. The packaging could fully illustrate this with multiple photos exemplifying the sets versatility.) I envision the base being about twice the size of the vintage playset. Heck, there could even be a sculpted crater for the coming Escape Pod!

PACK INS: Why not include both a Jawa and a Tusken Raider! Slightly retooled of course.

Thoughts? I genuinely think that if done properly. . .ie. . . exactly as I described, that this would sell really well. C'mon! Who doesn't like Tatooine? And yes, I even think that kids would REALLY want this one!!!

Jargo
11-07-2003, 04:30 AM
Absolutely none because hasbro can't make playsets to save their lives.

They need to stick to figures and vehicles.

stillakid
11-07-2003, 11:05 AM
I call it: TATOOINE CANYON: JAWA / SAND PEOPLE ATTACK!!!

This dual playset can be used to recreate not one, but two Classic scenes!

Basically it is a really well-sculpted rocky base --- complete with a cave for Jawas -- and later Artoo -- to hide in. :) The rear should have a rocky canyon wall about twelve inches or so high. For a groovy "vintage" touch there is a groovy recreation of the Land of the Jawas Action feature for the pivoting Jawa to shoot Artoo -- knocking him over of course!. And also, another mechanism spins three additional figures. (Tusken Raiders -- of course! But again, this could be used with the Jawas as well. The packaging could fully illustrate this with multiple photos exemplifying the sets versatility.) I envision the base being about twice the size of the vintage playset. Heck, there could even be a sculpted crater for the coming Escape Pod!

PACK INS: Why not include both a Jawa and a Tusken Raider! Slightly retooled of course.

Thoughts? I genuinely think that if done properly. . .ie. . . exactly as I described, that this would sell really well. C'mon! Who doesn't like Tatooine? And yes, I even think that kids would REALLY want this one!!!

Umm, I don't think it would be much better than that Arena Playset. Just a bunch of sculpted walls? Okay. In any case, maybe if they made it so it would interconnect with multiples of the same set, you could make a Pod Racer run or something.