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JediTricks
08-15-2001, 10:25 PM
This is a continuation of this thread:

Barry Manilow in ANH? (http://209.197.112.151/thread.html?dom=ss&TID=8&PID=5475)

Barada, the car accident was only weeks before the start of filming on ESB, so the Holiday Special is the last time we see Luke before his face changed. That's why the Wampa mauls Luke's face, to explain the scars and different shape. At least, that's what I've heard.

bigbarada
08-15-2001, 10:44 PM
Can you imagine Lucas' reaction when he heard about the accident and subsequent plastic surgery?

I bet he cussed. ;)

Darth Cruel
08-16-2001, 01:16 AM
JT - I read about that in the Star Wars Insider ESB 20th anniversary issue. They say the same thing you did above.

JediTricks
08-16-2001, 03:19 AM
DC, I believe I read about that first in the "Blue Harvest" fanzine, and few years later, the ESB issue of the SWI. The SWI had the pic of Luke's face in the half-cast/bandage thing, I thought it was pretty creative to change the story like that. But I'll bet barada was right, I bet there was a whole lotta cussin' in Skywalker Ranch the day they learned about the accident.

Rollo Tomassi
08-16-2001, 03:28 AM
So has there ever been any explanation as to why he's wearing so much makeup for the Holiday Special? If it was for the noted accident as I used to assume, then it's acceptable.

Otherwise, for someone to greenlight that look is ridiculous !

JediTricks
08-16-2001, 04:54 AM
There's no excuse for his Max Factor face in the Holiday Special since the accident happened almost a year later, I would guess that the producers of this thing (Lucas says he had nothing directly to do with it) were just incredibly sloppy -- if you've seen it, then you're probably saying "how surprising would THAT be?" ;)

QLD
08-16-2001, 09:04 AM
I thought the Christmas Special was GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!.........






















FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JediTricks
08-16-2001, 10:25 AM
May the spirit of Triumph flow through you!

I laughed. :D

QLD
08-16-2001, 10:53 AM
JT, If I can get you to laugh, I feel like I have accomplished something. :-)

The spirit of Triumph always flows through me.

I think every post I have made on Ain't It Cool News' forums has been just that line.

bigbarada
08-16-2001, 11:38 AM
I scoured the end credits for the Holiday Special and Lucas' name doesn't show up anywhere.

Han was wearing just as much make-up as Luke, which was really disturbing to watch.

I remember the first and only time I watched it, I was almost at the end I thought the pain was over, then....Leia starts singing.

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D (I love that s***-eating grin!)

JEDIpartner
08-16-2001, 01:24 PM
Hey BigBarada! Did you check to see if Rick McCallum's name was in the credits?

I remember being numb after watching that Holiday Special. I was only 11, but I sat there thinking... "uh, what did I just watch?" and "was THAT supposed to be cool?" I felt kinda like Ralphie in "A Christmas Story" when he discovered the secret Orphan Annie message was a crummy Ovaltine commercial.

Back to the original intent of this thread... At least SOMEONE was showing a little creativity when trying to explain Luke's new visage!

Jargo
08-16-2001, 04:17 PM
See, the thing about television in the seventies is that most producers assumed that folk had real old TV sets that didn't show things too well through all that bad reception snow on the screen. So make-up ladies and 'gents' went ott on the make-up to compensate for the poor quality tv cameras used back then and the poor quality TV's that most people had. This is why Luke has so much eye make-up and a cake of orange slapped all over his mush. They still do irt today on less than quality TV shows made by el cheapo productions inc. and you can tell when an over zealous make up person has been let loose by the distint trace of orange around the collar of the presenter of the show and the fact that their neck is still white.

My that was a dull reply! Wonder what's wrong with me lately? Must be this new look and the fact that I wake up to find I'm suddenly a dang Emperor! Sheesh..... :p

Eternal Padawan
08-17-2001, 11:18 AM
But wait...according to "the ranch" there IS no Holiday Special..so what are you talking about? And I noticed jargo promoted himself AGAIN. (sigh) I remember when he was plain ol' jargo...

evenflow
08-17-2001, 03:46 PM
The Holiday Special rocked. I wish they would make the Wookie family into figures. The cartoon with Boba Fett was great. It is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

bigbarada
08-18-2001, 12:19 AM
Okay I will admit the Holiday Special cartoon was awesome! Even a few of the comedy sketches were actually pretty funny. However, there were plenty of disturbing moments (Itchy's "soft-porn" holoprojector with Diane Carrol) and uncomfortable silences (the Imperial inspectors arrive and just walk around the room in silence for what seemed like ten straight minutes!). It seemed like the director ran out of story with 30 minutes left to fill, so he drug out every moment for as long as possible.

The one thing I really liked was Lumpy's stuffed Bantha. Why didn't Kenner ever make one of those? That would've been cool!

Did anyone else noticed that Carrie Fisher looked stoned throughout the entire show? Talk about glazed over!:eek:

The_Collector
08-18-2001, 02:38 PM
Eternal Padawan: Who art thou, who are so wise in the ways of Jargo? What was your name on the old board? am I the only one who thinks its Starfig?

Obi-Don
08-21-2001, 10:15 AM
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Christmas special?

Eternal Padawan
07-08-2002, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by The_Collector
Eternal Padawan: Who art thou, who are so wise in the ways of Jargo? What was your name on the old board? am I the only one who thinks its Starfig?

I guess you were the only one who thought I was Starfig. The irony of that post is that The_Collector got himself a new identity. I wonder if HE'S Starfig. ;) Where is Starfig? :confused:


By Obi Don
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Christmas special?

Thread killer! Just kidding. If someone wants to send Obi Don a copy of the SWHS, I'll send him a spoon to gouge his own eyes out with afterwards. And trust me, you'll want to.