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Beast
11-11-2003, 09:51 AM
We've all wondered exactly why Obi-Wan Kenobi is also known as Ben Kenobi. Whether it was a name he originally had, or if he took it later to better hide himself from the Empire. If the following Spy Report is true, then we'll learn the origins of the 'Ben' name in Episode III. And it appears many of us were right that they might change a Younglings name when they're brought into the Jedi Order. To distance them further from any family ties that they had from their old life. Obviously Anakin's name wasn't changed, because he was already beyond the youngling years when he first joined the Jedi Order. Here's the Spoiler Report from TheForce.net. :)

There's a minor quabble among fans on how Obi-Wan gets his name changed to "Ben" in the classic Episode IV. For long lengths to time, fans have speculated that it may be answered in Episode III. Well, from what we hear it will be. Here's how it goes:

Obi-Wan's given name is Ben - but he's been called Obi-Wan for so long no one seems to know otherwise. As they zip around the galaxy in the new Jedi Star/Tiefighters there is a scene where Anakin, having discovered Kenobi's actual name recently (though not seen in the film), calls him "Ben" as a jest in the middle of a blazing firefight. Obi-Wan responds, saying "This is no time for jokes Anakin! Besides you know I hate it when you call me that" - but Anakin persists. "Did Qui-Gon ever know your real name?" he asks. Obi-Wan blasts a few enemy ships, then says he fears that everyone will know now that Anakin does.

Speculation then would lead us to believe that after the fall of Anakin to the Dark Side. Obi-Wan escapes into hiding, calling himself Ben and burying himself on a planet where Vader would least want to return to. He uses the name as a painful reminder of his relationship with the fallen padawan, who he would someday face again one day.
MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

2-1B
11-11-2003, 01:17 PM
Interesting . . . I always assumed "Ben" came as a nickname from the B and N in Obi-Wan but that was just my interpretation.

This report sounds like it could play out very cool on screen. One last ribbing from one friend to another before all hell breaks loose. :)

Battle Droid
11-11-2003, 04:26 PM
Cool, I always thought that Ben might be his real name.

derek
11-11-2003, 04:45 PM
........and i just learned qui-gon's real name is "jerry" :p

Mr. JabbaJohnL
11-11-2003, 05:51 PM
Cool, that could make sense. Who would name their baby "obi-Wan" anyway? :p

stillakid
11-11-2003, 06:34 PM
HENRY and INDY mount their horses. Henry turns back to his son.

HENRY
What did you find, Junior?

INDY
Junior?! Dad...


SALLAH
Please...What does it always
mean, this...this "Junior?"

HENRY
That's his name. Henry Jones,
Junior.

INDY
I like Indiana.

HENRY
We named the dog Indiana.

BRODY
May we go home now, please?



CONTINUED:


SALLAH
(to INDY)
The dog!?
(laughs)
You are named after the dog...

INDY
(embarrassed)
I've got a lot of fond memories
of that dog.

A moment passes as they all ready their mounts and SALLAH continues to laugh
at INDY.

Beast
11-11-2003, 06:43 PM
Well, Lucas did write a lot of the Indiana Jones films with other writers. Can you really homage your own movies? Atleast it's not a direct copy. ;)

Anakin: So Ben....
Obi-Wan: I told you not to call me that. My names Obi-Wan
Anakin: But they named the Womprat Obi-Wan. :)

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Anakin2121
11-13-2003, 11:27 AM
They just updated this story on TFN. Apparently, he befriends a clone trooper, and later the clone tries to kill him, and he's like, "Target Obi-Wan Kenobi locked." Obi-Wan strikes him down with his saber and says something to the effect of, "It was always Ben to you, dear friend."

Sounds a little, dare I say, moving, and certainly out of place compared the extremely lighthearted nature of Episodes 1 and 2.

Tycho
11-15-2003, 01:31 AM
Names changed?

Yoda? Who names their kid Yoda?

Mace Windu - NOT. He is from the Harun Kal native Ghosh (tribe) Windu. That is his given name, pretty much. Not sure about Mace.

Ki-Adi Mundi - Comic source says "Ki" was his given name. The rest? Not sure.

Adi Gallia - "Adi" might mean something in some language. We're seeing it twice now.

Plo Koon - well who names their kid Plo Koon?

SaeSee Tiin - again....

Depa Billaba - hmmmm

Yarael Poof - His dad was Iggy Pop

Eeth Koth - ?

Yaddle ?

Even Piel - sounds like kids made fun of him at school

Oppo Rancisis - uh-huh. Why not "Charlie?"

Shaak-Ti - obviously a descendant from the Love Shaak.

Coleman Trebor - curiously sounds like the name of a guy at Lucasfilm spelled wrong.

Barriss Offee - go figure

Luminara Undulli - probably a Jedi rename, like "illuminated." Undulli might be her real name.

Kit Fisto - uh, yeah...

OK, well let's get into this stuff where the names might be important:

Syfo-Dyas
Qui-Gonn Jinn
Obi-Wan Kenobi

Nah....I don't see any importance.

And if his given name was Ben Kenobi - why didn't the Jedi change his last name to protect his family - like in case the owner of that yellow speeder went after somebody to thrash for damaging his car?

It's all confusing.

2-1B
11-15-2003, 01:59 AM
I've contemplated this rumor for 4 days now and I really hope it's true. I can easily picture Hayden and Ewan's banter during a dogfight and it is great.

I love it. :)

InsaneJediGirl
11-15-2003, 08:21 PM
Makes sense to me,after all the Jedi have been known to change the names of children once they enter the Temple.

Hellboy
11-16-2003, 01:54 AM
Hopefully this idea sticks because I like it. :cool:

A name change for someone entering the Jedi Order could be compared to a Sith receiving the title of Darth, both symbolizing the start of a new path in their life.

stillakid
11-16-2003, 12:58 PM
Makes sense to me,after all the Jedi have been known to change the names of children once they enter the Temple.


Child abductors do this too. :eek:

sith_killer_99
12-26-2003, 07:29 PM
Child abductors do this too.

Well, they do take kids at a young age to be trained. I guess becoming a Jedi is a lot like being abducted and admitted into some strange cult. LOL :crazed:

scruffziller
12-27-2003, 10:06 AM
So I wonder what Qui-Gonn's real name is? Or Yoda? hmmmmmmmmmmmm

sith_killer_99
12-28-2003, 08:19 AM
Yoda's real name is:

Yolandaraelpoofcalafragalisticexbealidocious!

It's true!

JEDIpartner
12-30-2003, 08:39 AM
Names changed?

Yoda? Who names their kid Yoda?

Mace Windu - NOT. He is from the Harun Kal native Ghosh (tribe) Windu. That is his given name, pretty much. Not sure about Mace.

Ki-Adi Mundi - Comic source says "Ki" was his given name. The rest? Not sure.

Adi Gallia - "Adi" might mean something in some language. We're seeing it twice now.

Plo Koon - well who names their kid Plo Koon?

SaeSee Tiin - again....

Depa Billaba - hmmmm

Yarael Poof - His dad was Iggy Pop

[snip]

It's all confusing.
That's a sadly ethno-centric, closed-minded view of things now, isn't it? Just because a bunch of Anglos name their kids "Robert" and a Frenchman names his kid "Robert" and a Spaniard names his kid "Roberto" and a Lithuanian names his kid "Robertas" doesn't make the fact that a Japanese person just made up the name "Masaaki" (which is my cousin's name) for his child.

mabudonicus
01-05-2004, 10:20 AM
Maybe it's the other way around, that people enter the Jedi Order because their silly names make it impossible to integrate in normal society, that's why there are no Jeffs or Christines or anything.... what else is a guy named Yarael Poof gonna do??? I'm sure that eventually all of the spit-takes and derisive snickers would get tired.....

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe the Jedi in the SW universe are sorta like SW fans in our universe

stillakid
01-05-2004, 10:27 AM
what else is a guy named Yarael Poof gonna do???

Porn star. :beard:

JEDIpartner
01-06-2004, 08:56 AM
I was thinking "tooth fairy" or "magician"...