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Mr. JabbaJohnL
02-14-2004, 11:48 AM
Surprisingly, I got this the other day at target. They also had the Denizens 3-pack, but I got the Wampa instead. I had no idea Jabba and his goons were out yet, but I guess they are.

Technically, this is the first official Jabba from ROTJ (vintage version not included). We've had plenty before - a Special Edition version with Han, a TPM version with Jabba Glob (which could kind have been a ROTJ version because of his position), and another TPM version with the 2-headed announcer.

Likeness/Paint
This is a very nice version of Jabba, it looks just like him. He's the right size, but he doesn't look like it because he's not on a dais. He has quite a lot of drool on his bottom lip, which is cool. His eyes are sculpted as part of the rest of him, unlike the 1997 version. They added a white dot to simulate a glare. They got the nostrils right this time (I think they've usually been right, but it's still good to note). However, when his tongue or pipe aren't in, his mouth looks a little odd, like Popeye or something. The color of him is correct this time for his ROTJ appearance. It's not as defined as the cardback picture, but I think it's better (less cartoony). They added peach alongside his tail and on his underside, which is a nice touch. By the way, his tail is the same as the Jabba Glob version, but new colors. And he's all one piece (unless you count the tongue).

Articulation
Seeing as how he doesn't move much, there isn't much articulation. Arms, "waist", and that's it. He doesn't have any action feature like tail-wagging or barfing, so that's good.

Accessories
Jabba comes with a rail, removable tongue, frog-like creature, hookah pipe, and smoke/frog-container thing. Originally, I thought the rail was small, but it's rather large. It starts with the bowl thing and goes along Jabba's body until halfway down his tail, with the slope going downward from the bowl. The pipe part is cool, it looks like there's smoke in there. The bowl comes off after you remove the pipe bowl/frog bowl from the rail, and it looks like there's water in there. The froggy thing can be held by Jabba or put in the bowl. It's weird, it has two hind frog legs and a bunch of tentacles coming out of its face. The hookah connects to the top of the bowl thing and goes into Jabba's mouth. His tongue can as well, an odd thing to have since he only uses it once to lick Leia (as I can remember).

Overall, this is a nice figure/set. It's a lot better than the sickly-looking Jabba Glob Jabba, so I suggest everyone get it. He looks cool talking to the Jabba's Palace Luke, or Boushh, or the droids and Holo Luke, and no Jabba's Palace diorama is complete without big J. :p

Grade: A

Hellboy
02-14-2004, 05:13 PM
I am glad that we finally got a ROTJ Jabba but think this figure could've been much better. It would've been nice if it was a new mold instead of the 98 version but I can live with that. The problem in my eyes is the paint job. The contrast between the green and tan skin is to extreme and doesn't blend like it should. The result is a Jabba that has very defined paint lines that IMO keep it from meshing well. On the cardback he has a shinier more subtle looking paint job that looks more like different shades of skin. The accessories are nice but he should've had a base similar to the vintage version because unless we get a Jabba's Palace playset we'll probably never see it produced.

Grade: C

Kidhuman
02-14-2004, 07:09 PM
I think this is the closest we will get to a Vintage Playset. The only thing it was missing is his throne. I think this figure looks great. I like the pack-ins and all. The hooka, bowl, and all. I especially like the frog in his hand.


Overall grade: B+

Silent Chazz
02-15-2004, 02:00 AM
Look at it this way. Now we can try to get Hasbro to make a Screen Scene with a sitting Slave Leia, a slimy C-3PO and a Saga-style Jawa (or some other Alien) and their base be Jabba's Dias so u can put this Jabba on it, lol.

plasticfetish
02-15-2004, 04:13 PM
Nice review Mr. JabbaJohnL! I'm a bit jealous that you've all found this one. Been looking forward to it and I've cleared off a nice space for him on the shelf.

I think the playset idea would be the best one of them all (with Gam Guard or Jawa pack-ins, or something) but I doubt that it'd happen. Who knows though... maybe if this "vintage" style figure thing works, they'll do a few playsets also.

Kidhuman
02-15-2004, 06:35 PM
PF, they have been hitting everywhere, I mean even I found them in my area which is a shock. Mostly they have been found ayt Wal-Mart. ALso I havea thread in the Dear Hasbro section for more playsets in the OTC line. Add to it if you like.

Banthaholic
02-18-2004, 11:50 PM
I found mine at Target, whcih is rare since they haven't got squat in for aome good time now.
I too love the frog, funny enough as great of a figure this is, the addition of the pipe & bowl, and railing make this item a must have. Little by little we'll get our Jabba's palace.

Jayspawn
02-19-2004, 09:21 AM
Haha, I still have yet to find the new Jabba (my stores picked a heck of a time for a dry spell). Anyway, sounds cool! Hope its worth the wait. And who could forget the hookah "water pipe" -haha one of my favorite accessories.

jedibear
02-20-2004, 07:05 PM
...that's one solid piece with better (but not perfect) detailing/paint job.

While it's nice that the rail/pipe is included (to make this an "Ultra" figure), I too wish Hasbro would've bit the bullet and just rehashed the throne as well.
I like the "screen-scene" idea Silent Chazz brings up (with the "sitting" Leia). To finish off that scene, hasbro could do a new IMPROVED version of Bib Fortuna. It's been great seeing these very well done re-do's like Skiff Lando but the ole' T'wilek really needs a new sculpt.
But we were talking Jabba here....

I found one of these...if I can land another I may attempt a paint job of my own to heighten the Hutt's look....

plasticfetish
02-20-2004, 09:03 PM
PF, they have been hitting everywhere, I mean even I found them in my area which is a shock. Mostly they have been found ayt Wal-Mart. ALso I havea thread in the Dear Hasbro section for more playsets in the OTC line. Add to it if you like.
I'll admit, I haven't been out looking every morning lately... maybe once a week, so I'm probably losing out to our scalper tribes. Most of the Targets near me are doing (or just did) inventory, so there's nothing new out. Wal-Mart either as usual. Hoping for a Jabba this next week...

For sure, I'll post in the OTC playset thread. With all of the great OT figures that we're getting, there's never been a better time for playsets.

B'Omarr Monkey
02-22-2004, 07:31 PM
I haven't found one yet, but was a bit disappointed from the picks to see that it was essentailly a repainted Jabba Glob (Though this is the best of the modern Jabbas) Does he have his anchor tattoo?

I think that the vintage Jabba was one of the best vintage figures, and using that mold and repainting (painting in this case) him might have been a better way to go.

I may change my mind if I ever find this.

Turbowars
02-22-2004, 11:59 PM
I think that the vintage Jabba was one of the best vintage figures, and using that mold and repainting (painting in this case) him might have been a better way to go.

I may change my mind if I ever find this.I think you will change your mind. The Ultra is better by far. Check out the pic I posted in other thread
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23193


Here's a comparison shot of the 2.

Kidhuman
02-23-2004, 09:24 AM
Okay, I am jealous Turbo. I dont have a dias for my ROTJ Jabba.

A.J.
02-24-2004, 03:35 PM
Does he have his anchor tattoo?

No, he is missing the tattoo which does kinda blow! But other than that I still think it's a good fig.

Turbowars
02-24-2004, 03:55 PM
No, he is missing the tattoo which does kinda blow! But other than that I still think it's a good fig.Mine has his tat.

Reefer Shark
02-24-2004, 03:59 PM
Woah... that comparison really shows how much better the ultra Jabba is (even if he is a bit too green). Can't wait to score one of these bad boys, and I'll need to get a dias now too...

I love comparison shots!

B'Omarr Monkey
02-24-2004, 08:18 PM
Yeah, it's a nicer job, but looking at the vintage one again, he still really holds up. Much better than either beast assortment one we got.

A.J.
02-26-2004, 09:10 AM
Mine has his tat.

Double checked my Hutt last night and there is definitely no tattoo on mine. Guess I'll have to break out the paint!

Kidhuman
02-26-2004, 09:55 AM
Mine doesn't have the Tatoo either. Guess its another variant.

Turbowars
02-26-2004, 10:02 AM
Read my fine print;)

arctangent
02-26-2004, 10:13 AM
this has not come out in the uk yet, so i don't have one yet but i was wondering how it is on size. jabba was a pretty big fella in rotj so i was wondering how the ultra figure compares to the power of the force version that came with han solo. i hope this one is bigger.

Turbowars
02-26-2004, 10:37 AM
this has not come out in the uk yet, so i don't have one yet but i was wondering how it is on size. jabba was a pretty big fella in rotj so i was wondering how the ultra figure compares to the power of the force version that came with han solo. i hope this one is bigger.He's about the same size if not smaller.

JediTricks
02-27-2004, 09:27 PM
this has not come out in the uk yet, so i don't have one yet but i was wondering how it is on size. jabba was a pretty big fella in rotj so i was wondering how the ultra figure compares to the power of the force version that came with han solo. i hope this one is bigger.
Jabba's not actually that big, this figure stands around the same height as a regular figure which is roughly how tall the Jabba puppet was. Think about it, Bib Fortuna is on the dais and has to bend down slightly to whisper to Jabba. 3PO is on the dais and stands maybe 1/4 a head over Jabba, yet this figure is taller than Saga Luke Palace, so if anything it's a little tall (which is good because it'd be hard to accept a Jabba figure at scale height I think). Oh, and the POTF2 version is the same height as this figure, not counting that lip at the bottom of the figure.

JediTricks
02-27-2004, 09:29 PM
Oh, and here's my review of the figure, I posted it in the SSG news first for a change...


Jabba the Hutt has long been a requested toy in the modern line; the ANH:SE version of the character made it to toy form as did a spitting figure in the Episode I line, but neither were even remotely accurate incarnations of the character from when audiences first saw him in ROTJ. The closest toys to ROTJ Jabba were the vintage figure and a strange Episode I item called "Jabba Glob" that you could stick a can of "glob" slime into and have it ooze out of his mouth - this Jabba Glob's sculpt was clearly based around the ROTJ version, but his coloring was way off the mark. Now, Hasbro has finally released an actual ROTJ Jabba based off that Glob figure, so how does this new Ultra Jabba stack up?

Packaging: 3.5/5
This is the 2nd wave of Saga Ultra packaging and uses the same Ultra motif, essentially an oversized version of the basic card. The bubble here is huge, over 3.5" deep and 7" tall, and has a mighty large tray insert to boot, but the plastic used on the bubble itself is rather thin so it might be tough to find a totally mint one. The tray inside moves around a little in the bubble due probably to the weight of the actual toys inside, but nothing seems to be shaking loose or rubbing.

The bubble insert only lists 2 of the accessories even though there's space to mention the rest. The co-sells on the back are for Tatooine figures that are out now or coming soon, as well as for 2 other Ultra sets (though one wonders why they chose the Ultra Wampa instead of the Ultra C-3PO who is another Tatooine figure). The prototype photo has a much better paint job than the actual toy, and here it's a big enough difference to matter.

This set smells pretty awful upon first opening, I'm sure SSG's Tycho will love it. Inside, there is a small tray taped to the bubble insert to keep the tail from rubbing against the insert, 7 twisties holding various stuff in place including the railing (which is actually tied onto the back of the tray), the pipe hose passes through the tray in 5 places, and the snack creature is clear-banded to Jabba's right hand.

Sculpting: 4/5
This is a slight retooling of the Jabba Glob sculpt, with new work added to the face at the eyes, the bridge of the nose, and mouth. The original sculpt was pretty good to begin with, so the designers didn't need to stray too far from that and even left the original '98 copyright date on the bottom. The weakest points of the original sculpt were the shoulders which were too pronounced, the arms with their softer sculpt and flat-open hands, and "waist" articulation where the figure came apart to access to the glob can; this new Jabba suffers those same issues, though he doesn't come apart. The new figure is a tiny bit heavier than the original, probably because the new upper body is nowhere near as rubbery as Globba's puppety head.

The face has been resculpted slightly to give bigger eyes, seal up the mouth, and add a place for the tongue accessory to go. The eyes are bigger and wide open (well, for a Hutt anyway), they fit the bill a little better than the Glob figure's, but those had better eyelids so it's a trade-off; also, the bridge of this new Jabba's nose is far too thin, it looks like a nosejob gone horribly wrong. The mouth doesn't open anymore so it was sculpted shut and the left side was altered to accomodate the tongue accessory, but without the tongue in place, the mouth is uneven and has a noticable hole at the end - I prefer the opening mouth on the Glob figure. Finally, drool was added beneath both sides of the mouth, it's definitely sculpted and not just paint - it's a little too scene-specific for me, but looks convincing for what it is.

Pose: 4.5/5
Jabba doesn't require that many poses really, he's fat and he sits there. The neutral pose here is pretty much what you'd expect, although the left arm doesn't look so great resting on the railing accessory and gets in the way with the hookah in place. He seems to be gazing slightly upwards which isn't consistant with the character most of the time, but what ya gonna do? The hutt has his tail curled around and slightly upwards, I guess to amuse Salacious. You can milk a few variations on the general pose out of this figure; as basic as it is, it gets the job done.

Paint: 2.5/5
This is where the figure suffers most, especially when compared to the prototype photo on the cardback. Jabba Glob's paint was lightyears off the mark so this is certainly an improvement over that, but this still should have been better work. The main colors are here, but the applications of orange are painfully lazy so that the orange has hard borders instead of fading out to give way to the green plastic - the way the prototype is shown on the cardback - and has a darker orange paint wash on the face which is way over the top. The belly of the figure (a relative term when taking ANH:SE and TPM into account), is a huge patch of orange instead of being mostly green with slight orange accent - the prototype also makes this mistake, but at least has some more subtlty to the application even if it isn't movie-accurate. Strangely, the underside of the figure is mostly orange but does have that subtle fading, too bad this never shows when displaying the figure.

The eyes are painted slightly glossy with the pupils open wider than usual, this is a bit overly expressive while also lacking depth, basically too much like a toy (also like Jabba just downed a gallon of high-octane coffee and just felt the rush). The eye color isn't different enough from the face color, so the eyes get a little lost on the face compared to the movie version. The drool is painted a sickly bluish white, and while I don't care for the permanent drool, it is very well-applied - I would have preferred something clear though. The arms are cast in slightly darker green material than the body and have a dark brown/gray paint wash on them which doesn't really match the other colors; Jabba's also missing the tattoo on his right forearm, but that's an oft-overlooked detail anyway. There's a slight orange spray around much of the body which adds some texture, as well as several uses of a reddish-brown spray which subtly adds more realism. Mine has several sloppy or missing overspray points, as well as a few small black and greasy marks on the back, but none affect the look much.

Articulation: 2/5
Jabba has only 3 points of articulation - the 2 standard shoulders and the rotating waist - no tail articulation, movable tongue, opening mouth, elbow articulation, tilting torso, or anything nifty like that. The arms should be more usable than they are really, they can rotate pretty freely but can't move towards the body so when they're out in front, he looks like he wants a hug instead of being able to hold his pipe or eat a snack. The Jabba Glob figure had a bit of an advantage here because his upper body was so rubbery that you could easily move the arms towards the face like a puppet which worked since Jabba looked this way in the movie, but Ultra Jabba here is made of stronger stuff which doesn't allow for such movement.

Accessories: 4/5
First off, let me say that I don't think they could have gotten Jabba's dais in that bubble and even if they had somehow crammed it in, there would have been major cost issues. That's not to say I don't want Jabba's dais, far from it - I'd love to see a dais set with sitting slave Leia and Yarna d'al Gargan figures, that'd make another great Ultra set or part of a Palace playset! Ah, to dream...

Back to reality, this set comes with some nice accessories which counterbalances the weaker aspects of the figure itself. The railing is decently large and cast in dull metallic gold with a slight green wash to add realism, it looks accurate and fits around the back and side of Jabba adequately. The railing has a removable clear frog bowl that's painted murky on the bottom to simulate liquid (the waterline could have been higher though) and a hookah which snugly fits over the top of the bowl. The hookah has a fantastic, ornate sculpt and is painted gold with very slight gold overspray on the clear areas to simulate the smoke within - it should be a little darker and more green, but it does look very nice none the less. Then there's the gold pipe mouthpiece with blue hose that's just under 9" long, the mouthpiece seems a little big and looks a bit like an old gas pump nozzle. I wish the hose were a little more flexible, but the figure can't hold it to his mouth anyway; the hose plugs into the top of the hookah, but won't go in the last few millimeters and is so snug that I'm worried it might some day break off in there.

There's the little squid-like creature who is surpisingly accurate in both sculpt and paint job, and even can be held by Jabba's open hands (the creature is really doing the holding on though). The creature's legs are too long to have him upright in the bowl, so he looks better upside-down inside there. This squidly creature is totally different from the little frog guys that came with Globba but roughly the same size, so they can both fit in the bowl.

Finally, there's the only accessory I'm not that fond of: the tongue. Cast in fleshy dark pink, the tongue is curved upwards and well-sculpted except at the back where it flattens out and a peg comes into play on the left side. The tongue itself is not bad at all even though it's not flexible, and actually looks pretty slick in the Glob figure's mouth - where it can be put anywhere and even be inserted upside-down to curve downwards - but this Ultra Jabba's mouth was resculpted to accept the tongue just 1 way, where it's way off to the left side and curved up too much making this accessory a one-trick-pony. The tongue and hose took this rating down from a perfect score but are far from deal-breakers.

Overall Grade: B+
I won't lie and say this Ultra Jabba figure is perfect because it's not. Without the dais, Jabba will always seem incomplete, but this set does accomplish a lot even without it. The figure itself has issues to be sure, but for around 10 bucks you get a lot of toy here and it's the most accurate Jabba the Hutt figure yet. Since who knows when we'll see another ROTJ Jabba figure, do not pass this one up or you'll likely regret it later.

Jaff
03-05-2004, 05:22 AM
I got my Jabba yesterday, and thankfully I have the vintage Jabba to provide a throne for the new Jabba. I like the dias, but the Jabba is just O.K. The new Jabba with his tongue in his mouth doesn't look right. If you put his pipe in his mouth his hand doesn't look right because both his hands look active as if he's just been suprized. The old Jabba looked relaxed which is the way Jabba should look. The new one looks fair. Besides that the Dias is sweet, and the paint detail of Jabba is great. I give this figure a B-.

skeeziks22
03-05-2004, 06:17 PM
I've noticed that these have a good variation in the paint on the front (stomach) of Jabba. Some have a clean line separating the yellow from the green while others blend together better.

I don't know why they wouldn't make him so he can hold his pipe... the pic on the back even shows the pipe in his mouth somehow just stuck there. I would have really enjoyed seeing Hasbro use opaque plastic insets for his eyes as well to give depth and shine... kind of tlike a cat's eye marble. And why not a reposed salacious crumb?