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JediTricks
03-09-2004, 05:57 PM
The modern 3" Star Wars figure lines over the past decade have gone through some pretty big changes, from the basic 6 points of articulation days of POTF2 to the kid-oriented action gimmicks of Saga and now the super-articulated "vintage" OTC figures coming later this year. With only just over a year away till Episode III, toys from likely the final Star Wars film are at this very moment being designed and Hasbro is likely asking itself the same thing this poll is asking you: How would you like to see these new figures handled, what is your action figure design preference for Episode III?

Here's what the choices mean:


"Dynamic/Statue", scene-specifically pre-posed with limited articulation such as Luminara Unduli (Saga) or Jango Fett (Ep 2 Preview)
"Basic/Neutral", barely or non-posed with modern standard articulation such as Han Bespin Capture (POTJ) or Captain Typho (Saga)
"Action Gimmick", pre-posed with a motion-based action feature such as Padme Geonosis Arena (Saga) or Luke Throne Room (Saga)
"Super Articulated", near-neutrally posed with high levels of articulation (but possibly higher priced) such as "vintage" Luke Skywalker (OTC) or the Super-poseable Clone Trooper (Clone Wars)
"Other", some other overall design theme or possibly a combination of the above choices



special thanks to kidhuman

Reefer Shark
03-09-2004, 06:35 PM
I voted the newer super articulated style. This is what I have been hoping for for years now.

No need to take any steps backwards, lets keep going forward Hasbro!

bobafrett
03-09-2004, 06:58 PM
I also voted for the super articulated figures. I like the direction they are taking, and I'd rather pay a little more to have a figure that I could pose the way I like, as I don't play with the figures, but do like to display those I open.

dr_evazan22
03-09-2004, 07:52 PM
Overall I think there should be a nice balance between all the choices we were given, with the majority being neutral figs. Having said that though, I voted for the SA version as we would be able to pose the fig's in a neutral pose if that is what the individual collector would like.

thomasandrea-call
03-09-2004, 08:04 PM
Overall I think there should be a nice balance between all the choices we were given, with the majority being neutral figs. Having said that though, I voted for the SA version as we would be able to pose the fig's in a neutral pose if that is what the individual collector would like.
I think that the SA version is the best out of all that we have seen over the past ten years. Some of the first figures, if you remember, did not stand and looked more like He-man then the actual figure. What I would like to see is say Pablo Jill, he has a soft plastic cape and his arms are painted the same color. I would then like to see that figure with another set of arms that can replace, Like the new Luke, where he can be posed with out the cape or with the cape. I would also like to see this as a SA so that it can pose it in any fashion that you would want.

Kidhuman
03-09-2004, 08:39 PM
I voted for basic/nuetral posed figures. As a carded collector this seems best to me. I have collected from vintage all the up til present. They started that way and should stay that way. The look the best in the packs that way.

I would not mind some SA figures. But like I said, as a carded collecotr I would not be able to enjoy them as much as the openers.

On to the pre-posed/statue-esque figures. A few of them scattered here and there is fine. Take Fett 300 for example. He was priced a bit more and looks great. If Hasbro popped one of these out every three months I would enjoy them. But then again, thats why we have the unleashed line.

Action gimmick figures fall into the same as staue figures to me. They are preposed and trapped in there plastic prisons forever. Also, I do not like the buttons sticking out of their backs(i.e. Mace Windu, TRD Luke)

I would also like to add this one other note. Hasbro has been giving evryone weapons from day one. I think this is great. But in all reality, does a figure like Faytonni need a gun when he is preposed to be having a drink? Thats why nuetral is the best option with good articulation.

Overall a balance of nuetral posed figures with decent articulation(not SA) would be great in my mind. Even if it cost an extra dollar.

Kidhuman
03-09-2004, 08:46 PM
special thanks to kidhuman


Anytime JT. Was my pleasure for asking it. Thank you for making it happen.

B'Omarr Monkey
03-09-2004, 08:50 PM
I voted for neutral, non SA version. This is not to say I'm opposed to SA, but some characters are served better by it than others. Characters like the stormtrooper, battle droids, and even C-3PO if they wanted too are great for SA because the joints in their armor hides and/or serves all of the joints of SA.

Characters like Padme won't work as well, and I'd rather have stiff leg and arm versions of these characters with rotating wrists, and maybe elbow joints than the peg-in-leg look that the commtech Greedo had.

I also thought that some of the glorified statue characters looked great like Luminara Unduli and Shaak Ti, but my kids also have these and complain about the fact that you can't really do anything with them. My kids also complain about the lame play features, particularly the arena Padme, because everytime they move her either her arm goes up or down and that's it.

As for soft goods, I've posted elsewhere that I'm not a fan. I thought it worked pretty well on the Princess Leia collection and on the Ep. 1 soft goods Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Darth Maul, because the soft goods was limited to their loin cloth like section of their robes and not their robes in their entirety. The cloth good robes look bad at that scale and the characters look like their trying to wrestle their way into, or out of them. I'd much prefer the removable vinyl cloaks that were part of the Ep. 1 line.

plasticfetish
03-10-2004, 01:13 AM
I voted "other."
I'd like to see a logical mix of both basic/neutral and super articulated. Most importantly, if by some chance they do decide to charge more for episode 3 figures, then they need to be well made. No charging $7 (or any price really) for toys with sloppy paint, wobbly joints and accessories made from chewing gum.

LusiferSam
03-10-2004, 01:13 AM
I went with Basic/Neutral. Like B'Omarr Monkey said I'm not opposed to SA, its just I like the basic/neutral style best.

OC47150
03-10-2004, 08:42 AM
No action features!!!

While the idea/concept was good, it wasn't the best. The peg/nob sticking out of the back was distracting.

A nice neutral pose would be good for figures featured with vehicles. Still can't get Anakin to sit in the blasted speeder!

CaptainSolo1138
03-10-2004, 12:02 PM
I voted "dynamic/statue". All of my figures sit on a huge shelf. The less work I have to do to get them into a cool pose the better. Super articulated was a close second, though.

skeeziks22
03-10-2004, 12:36 PM
I like the SA figures, but I don't think paying more for them is wirth it. Keep bringing out a few of those at a time and I'd be happy. This way MOC collectors and those who open will both be happy. SA figures don't mean a lot when they don't look as good in the card as an action posed, or even a neutral posed figure does. For scene builders the SA figs are probably a favorite over the pre-posed figures... keep a balance of them all.

Darth Jade
03-10-2004, 05:22 PM
I voted super articulated. Hasbro makes the G.I. Joe figures with great articulation. Why not do the SW figures the same way?

JediTricks
03-10-2004, 07:35 PM
I voted "other."
I'd like to see a logical mix of both basic/neutral and super articulated. Most importantly, if by some chance they do decide to charge more for episode 3 figures, then they need to be well made. No charging $7 (or any price really) for toys with sloppy paint, wobbly joints and accessories made from chewing gum. That's pretty much my feeling on it, but I'd rather they didn't go up in price so I voted for Basic/Neutral. I love Super Articulated, but I'm not sure I'd want that a majority of the time and there are some figures I'm sure won't need super articulation. I definitely want SOME figures super-articulated though, but like Luke Jabba's Palace, no reason we can't have a few of 'em with lots of accessories and still five bucks.

Mandalorian Candidat
03-10-2004, 09:43 PM
I voted "other."
I'd like to see a logical mix of both basic/neutral and super articulated. Most importantly, if by some chance they do decide to charge more for episode 3 figures, then they need to be well made. No charging $7 (or any price really) for toys with sloppy paint, wobbly joints and accessories made from chewing gum.

Yeah, that pretty much sums up what I think. I like the SA style, but I don't think it would work or even be needed on many figures. A mix of both would be good. I would also throw in that if articulated ankles are going to negate pegholes (like the SA Clonetrooper) I would rather that point be left out.

dirtybones
03-11-2004, 10:49 AM
SA version works best for me!!

TraderBoShek
03-11-2004, 06:18 PM
I want larger figures, 7" or so scale and more articulation, scanned likenesses, articulation and cloth goods. Fewer figures per wave, but super detailed, Toy Biz style.

Darth Trymybestus
03-11-2004, 07:12 PM
I voted for: Basic/Neutral - barely or non-posed with modern standard articulation. I loved the Episode I line. Lots of fantastic, neutrally posed figures. Good sturdy quality and excellent paintjobs.
I think the Episode I/POTJ lines were fantastic, I wish that the SAGA line had been as good.

I think SAGA line took a step forward in terms of the sculpting and the likeness of the figures but it many steps backward in a lot of other ways.

* The horrific action features which ruined so many excellent figures. I'll never ever forgive Hasbro for screwing up Anakin Skywalker - Tatooine Attack. The irony of that is, I bet there's an Anakin Tatooine Attack without the action feature somewhere in Hasbro's offices. Grrr! :frus:

* The annoying way the figures were packaged inside the bubble. I saw so many bent lightsabers etc.

* Bad quality control, saw too many bad paintjobs and bent accessories.


As for as the Episode III line.. I have a bad feeling about this. :(

JediTricks
03-11-2004, 08:11 PM
I want larger figures, 7" or so scale and more articulation, scanned likenesses, articulation and cloth goods. Fewer figures per wave, but super detailed, Toy Biz style. Yow! Think of the controversy!!! As much as I've wanted to see a great 7" line, I wouldn't want it to replace the 3.75" line. When we did a poll last year asking about a size change, there was a lot of arguing and the majority voted no: http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22326

Also, as great as LOTR figures are, I don't think Hasbro could pull off SW that nice, and certainly not at the same pricetag. At WM, I can either spend $5 on a chintzy SW 3.75" figure with one or two accessories and 6 points of articulation, or take that same $5 and buy a LOTR 6" Trilogy figure that's likely got 3 times the articulation and half a dozen accessories or more, often with superior likeness and paint.

nomad
03-14-2004, 12:19 PM
I voted for SA, though I do not think they should be higher priced.
During the original ROTJ line, G.I.Joe's were basically this "Super Articulated" sculpt... and I have never understood why the Star Wars line didn't adopt those ideas as their standard.
Make the standards better and greater ideas will follow.
"Super Articulated", in a good looking AND playable form, has been around for a long time, and in my opinion should be the standard for action figures.

Other than that, I do like old style neutral figures, such as the vintage line, but seriously, done correctly, the super articulated figures can be just as good (If not better).

Moving forward in this case is still dated to many years ago :p

- Omadda Szool (SWG-Kauri)

JediTricks
03-14-2004, 05:14 PM
About GI Joe in '83, one thing that separated the 2 lines (besides the fact that they were made by different companies at that time) was that GI Joe:RAH was an in-house line, so Hasbro didn't have to pay licensing fees to make the figures. This is enough money to cut overhead on the line by as much as 40% (and you'll notice that even today, GI Joe lines are packing 2 figures into a $7 card while SW still is 1 figure at $5).

jjreason
03-14-2004, 05:42 PM
Neutral with standard modern articulation. The POTJ figures were fine, and would be the perfect style for the EpIII figures to follow in. Statues look nice, and I have no real problem with them provided they don't need to serve any other play function (politicians, non action Padmes, etc). All Jedi, soldiers of any kind, and alien figures should have "acceptable" posability. The SA versions are looking great so far, but none of us have had to shell out the money for them yet - and the second wave doesn't look as excellent as the first. Still up in the air, the value of these figures is.

sith_killer_99
03-14-2004, 05:51 PM
Well, I voted Super Articulated near neutral pose with possibly a higher price tag.

I don't really mind paying a little extra if they make the figures worth it, ie. great detail plenty of articulation so that the figure can be placed in several poses. I remember shelling out as much as $7.99 for basic figures at TRU during the EP1 days. :rolleyes:

I rather like figures like the CT Stormtrooper or the excelently executed Tantive IV Defender. But the key is making the joints look natural! I hate gaps in the knees or elbows, it just looks tacky!