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Griff
08-19-2001, 11:31 AM
I was on a fan site not to long ago and they said that in Cloud City when 3P0 hears a R2 unit and goes to investigate some one says " Who are you?". Now I always thought that it was a Stormtropper but this person said that it could have been Boba Fett standing with a group of Stormtroppers. It really does not sound like either of them to me.

2-1B
08-19-2001, 02:41 PM
I wonder if there's any EU written about this?

I guess I always assumed it was a Stormtrooper - I would think that Fett was with Vader. I never really thought much about it.

the master jedi
08-19-2001, 07:06 PM
It could be Dengar and he just blasted 3PO because he was mad Fett got to Han first.

Fulit
08-19-2001, 07:19 PM
It was a Stormtrooper, because later when Chewie reactivates C3PO, 3PO says, "Stormtroopers......here"? Remember?

Grif
08-20-2001, 09:03 AM
Yeah but Fett could have been standing with a group of stormtroppers.

Obi-Don
08-20-2001, 09:13 AM
Yeah,I believe it was stromtroopers from what 3po said.Fett was with Vader.

Fulit
08-20-2001, 10:26 AM
I always kind of pictured a bunch of Stormtroopers in that little room, playing sabaac and drinking Alderaanian ale, when here comes dorky 3P0, ...."oh I'm terribly sorry, oh no please don't get up".....
Fett doesn't strike me as the type that would hang out with Stormtroopers though. And if he had been there, 3PO likely would have said ....."oh no! the bounty hunter!"... or some crap. Han & the others would definitely be more freaked out by Fett than a bunch of no-talent Stormtroopers. Just an opinion.

JediTricks
08-21-2001, 05:03 AM
I posted something about this on the old SSG forums: http://209.197.112.151/thread.html?dom=ss&TID=8&PID=4861

I think it's worth a reviewing, but it's a running discussion about this possibility so I'm not going to port all that text over here.

Sliver FBI
08-28-2001, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Caesar
I wonder if there's any EU written about this?

I guess I always assumed it was a Stormtrooper - I would think that Fett was with Vader. I never really thought much about it.

That scene is written in Tales Of The Bounty Hunters in Boba Fett or IG88īs tale, But I donīt remember who it was supposed to be.

Fixer
08-28-2001, 10:20 AM
I think it's pretty clear that there are Stormtroopers in the room the Threepio wanders into, judging from the first words he says after Chewie reactivates him. However, whether or not one of them actually pulled the trigger is unknown. As for the voice that doesn't sound like it comes out of a Stormtrooper helmet, I've always assumed that one o' them black-uniformed Imperial Commanders was with them. But I suppose it could have been Fett - though it doesn't really sound like him either.

Darth Cruel
08-28-2001, 05:01 PM
I look at it like this...the likelyhood is that there were any combination of the following beings:

Stormtroopers
Imperial Officers
Bespin Security
bounty hunters
workers
spies

There may be others that I am not thinking of, but these are some of the MOST LIKELY people to be in that room.

Any one of them could have spoken the words. A non-human that speaks basic, or a gravelly voiced human to include a stormtrooper without a helmet.

There is simply not enough info to know for sure. It could be regarded as a plot hole, but I just don't think that who said it has any bearing on the plot. I consider it to be one of those things that a good imagination can fill in.

My own choice is to believe that there are only Stormtroopers and that they are prepairing for the mission and are sans helmets. The voice was just made gravelly (there are humans with gravelly voices) so that we would not know who shot C-3PO until that part of the plot was revealed to us in due course.

JediCole
08-30-2001, 11:52 AM
Though 3PO's first words (or last before he was blasted) refer to Stormtroopers, it seem that there are those who are so enamoured with Boba Fett that they have to put their favorite bounty hunter into every scene. That it did not sound like a Stormtrooper (via the helmet mic) is irrelevant. Such an arugment assumes that these Imperial troops even sleep in their armor! A more likely scenaro is that the detachment of Stormtroopers assigned to join Vader on Cloud City had just been delivered their armor (by the silver protocol droid that had just exited) and were in the process of "suiting up" when 3PO arrived all excited an nosey. Wuhur's line in A New Hope, "We don't serve their kind here!", suggests a prevailing droid bigotry in the Star Wars Universe. An unruly group of trained killers caught in their skivies while dressing to intimidate would have no qualms about blasting a useless droid for its intrusion. Then they finished suiting up and headed over to the grand dining room to act as back up as Lando escorted Leia, Chewie and Han to their fateful lunch date with Vader and Fett.

The real question, how did Vader and Fett eat their supper?

JediTricks
08-31-2001, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by JediCole
Though 3PO's first words (or last before he was blasted) refer to Stormtroopers, it seem that there are those who are so enamoured with Boba Fett that they have to put their favorite bounty hunter into every scene. That it did not sound like a Stormtrooper (via the helmet mic) is irrelevant. Such an arugment assumes that these Imperial troops even sleep in their armor!I'm not "so enamoured" with Fett, I just don't think there's enough evidence to suggest that Stormtroopers were who shot C-3PO on sight at Cloud City - they can't even hit the broad side of a barn, but they know well enough to shoot a GENERIC protocol droid that looks EXACTLY like the one that just left the same room and hit him in ONE SHOT?!? No, sorry, I find that pretty hard to swallow -- stormies ain't that good of shots, they can't see jack squat out of those helmets, and they certainly wouldn't be smart enough to instantly recognize one protocol droid from another. I'm not sure it's Fett who shoots C-3PO, but I don't believe Stormies are the ones who did.

El Chuxter
08-31-2001, 10:46 AM
Whoever it was, either Stormtroopers were present or some indication of their presence was around. Possibly an unarmored officer briefing some Stormies shot him--C-3PO wouldn't know enough about Imps to know he was a Stormie as well.

BTW, in the Extra Special Edition, the silver protocol droid will be revealed to actually be TC-14, who was built by Sio Bibble's son Charlie Bibble. :D

JediCole
08-31-2001, 04:46 PM
First, let me point out to Jedi Tricks that the statement about people being enamoured of Boba Fett was more directed at those who first suggested (on a fan site) that it was Boba who shot 3PO. This smacks of the kind of mentality that prevailed in a fan-created online EI comic I once saw. In this book, an "I just can't let go" fan had Darth Maul having gained a hand-hold with his upper body use the Force to draw his lower body back up out of the shaft and put himself back together again! (If only Humpty Dupmty had been a Force adept!) The suggestion that there is not "enough evidence to suggest that Stormtroopers were who shot C-3PO" is rather ignoring the lines delivered by 3PO himself as Chewie reassembled him!

That being said, regardless of who shot 3PO, I cannot honestly say that I've ever been entirely comfortable with that particular plot thread. I will concede that Stormtroopers would have little reason to blast a protocol droid into scrap on sight, especially in light of the fact that a similar model had just exited the room! Here Jedi Tricks and I are in agreement. However, the same arguement can be made against Boba Fett. Why would Fett, who had never seen C-3PO, who undoubtedly had some knowledge of Han Solo (his prey after all) and would therefore never assueme that Solo would be traveling with anyone but a Wookie (kind of hard to mistake for a droid), blast 3PO into twelve convenient and easy to reaassemble pieces? Indeed why would anyone? The real queston that begs an answer is why blast a protocol droid mere seconds after it intrudes mere seconds after another had just left? Of course one could suspect that the protocol droid 3PO encountered exiting the room was unaware of the Stormtrooper patrol that had entered from the oppostite side of the room (using their own Astromech, after all, R2-Q5 suggests the Empire employs the plucky little guys, to gain access to a good place to hide out until summoned by Vader to act as back up). Likewise, the troopers, cautiously trying not to alarm the citizens of Cloud City and possibly botch the whole mission (remember, Bespin was remote and largely ignored by the Imperial government proper) may not have seen the silver unit exiting, oblivious to their arrival. I mention the use of an Astromech by means of explaining the sound that attracted 3PO into the room in the first place, a circumstance that has not previously been explored here. Hearing the beeps and whistles, a lonely 3PO seeks the company of other droids and marches in on the Imperials. Thier stealthy entry compromised, some trigger happy idiot unloads on the hapless droid while someone with a cooler head pushes the "close" button on the door, avoiding detection by Chewie. Then it was just a matter of crating up the debris and sending it down to the Ugnaught disposal center.
In the end, the circumstances under which 3PO is put out of the action do little more than just provide a convenient way to prevent him from slowing our heroes down while working in a slight sympathy angle and allowing for later hijinks like having Chewie put his head on backward or R2 shock his foot. What is really at issue isn't the culprit, but the awkward twist of the plot that served only the purpose of convenience.

JediTricks
08-31-2001, 11:43 PM
"The suggestion that there is not "enough evidence to suggest that Stormtroopers were who shot C-3PO" is rather ignoring the lines delivered by 3PO himself as Chewie reassembled him!"

Not at all, look at what 3PO says before he's shot and then after he's brought back online:

THREEPIO: That sounds like an R2 unit in there. I wonder if...

Threepio walks through the doorway to the main room. He looks in.

THREEPIO: Hello? How interesting. Oh, my.

MAN'S VOICE: (from within) Who are you?

THREEPIO: Oh, I'm terribly sorry. I...I didn't mean to intrude. No, no, please don't get up. No!


Suddenly, the lights in Threepio's eyes spark to life as Chewie touches two connectors together. Threepio immediately begins to speak, but his voice is so slow and so low as to be nearly unintelligible.

THREEPIO: I, uh, don't mean to intrude here. I, don't, no, no, no...Please don't get up. No!

Chewie looks at Threepio in bewilderment, then scratches his furry head. He gets an idea and adjusts some connections, whereupon Threepio immediately begins speaking normally.

THREEPIO: Stormtroopers? Here? We're in danger. I must tell the others. Oh, no! I've been shot!There's nothing there that is conclusive that the stormies shot him, only that he spotted some and he was shot.



"Why would Fett, who had never seen C-3PO, who undoubtedly had some knowledge of Han Solo (his prey after all) and would therefore never assueme that Solo would be traveling with anyone but a Wookie (kind of hard to mistake for a droid), blast 3PO into twelve convenient and easy to reaassemble pieces?"

I believe Fett is a top bounty hunter in the SW galaxy because he DOES know up-to-date info on his prey and uses it against them. Fett would learn that Han is allied with the Rebels and travels with Luke, Leia, and the 2 droids a lot, so he'd probably study up on those individuals as they would make good bait for Solo (or lead Fett right to him). Why does Fett take a shot at Luke and R2 on sight? He's covering his tracks because he knows that his cargo is important to these 2.

Whomever shot 3PO appears to be sitting down when he enters the room, and this person gets up and shoots. This doesn't seem like someone who just rushed into the room and missed the other protocol droid leaving, this seems like someone sitting around, not ready to blast away (otherwise whomever it was wouldn't need to stand up first). I always thought that the protocol droid was exiting some sort of droid repair or recharge center, which is why C-3PO heard an astromech whistle.

Lobito
09-14-2001, 03:34 PM
IMO the stormies shot 3po.

Deoxyribonucleic
06-24-2004, 11:48 PM
Anyone figure this thing out YET?

I'm going with stormtroopers, although the voice sounds like some kind of alien to me.

Rocketboy
06-25-2004, 08:18 AM
It was Tag and Bink from the comic "Tag and Bink are Dead."
Yeah, I know it was an comedic Infinities type of tale, but they explained it.
Those 2 were all over the Trilogy!

Deoxyribonucleic
06-25-2004, 12:39 PM
It was Tag and Bink from the comic "Tag and Bink are Dead."
Yeah, I know it was an comedic Infinities type of tale, but they explained it.
Those 2 were all over the Trilogy!

Heyyyyy, that's right. I forgot about those two comics. :)

Court adjourned! ;)

vader121
07-06-2004, 02:31 PM
I actually always assumed it was an Ugnaught due to the voice tone. Stomtroopers were human and the voice sounded more like an alien voice.
I do like the idea about Dengar blasting him.

As far as the explanation of "Stomtroopers...". I always thought that maybe C3po could sense what was happenning around him and saw them after he was blasted. Or that there were some Stormtroopers with Dengar when he was blasted.

I guess we'll ever really know.

Rocketboy
07-06-2004, 10:57 PM
Look, it really was Tag and Bink! :)

aceguide
07-07-2004, 08:12 AM
I have always felt it was stormies - but I also like the idea that maybe it was an ugnaught that actually did the shooting. Maybe they knew that this was not one of "their" droids and blasted him for spare parts. They did not seem to be very nice creatures.

THere were stomries in the room - probably just waiting around for the signal to take over the City.

Veers
07-14-2004, 08:26 PM
I always though it was Stormtroopers that blasted him.

El Chuxter
09-21-2004, 02:30 PM
Sooooooooooooo....

I haven't watched yet, but this can now be very easily cleared up by watching the ESB DVD and seeing if the guy now has a Pacific Islander accent. :D