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evenflow
03-30-2004, 01:15 PM
What a shock this one is. I can admit Guns N' Roses is my favorite band, but damn AXL sucks. I so annoyed with him at this point. Chinese Democracy is never going to come out. I have given up all hope. They pulled out of their show in Portugal because Buckethead is nolonger int he band. I really wish Axl would swollow his pride and get back together with the rest of the guys, start performing, and stop being a baby.

2-1B
03-31-2004, 01:39 AM
Bill Bailey, you'll never change. :p

Well, so much for the Portugese Democracy Tour. :crazed:

arctangent
03-31-2004, 02:34 AM
this band isn't even guns n roses anymore. its axl with a bunch of hired hands. best guns n roses tribute band ever! i can't say i blame buckethead for quitting. as a musician, perhaps he actually wanted to play some music somewhere along the line.

i saw the classic line up at the castle donington monsters of rock festival in 1992 (ish) and they were a damn good band touring a damn good album but now, who really cares about them? axl has blown it big time.

and don't hold your breath for a reunion - in an interview with slash in last month's classic rock magazine, he said neither he nor any other members of velvet revolver would never ever work with axl again. too much bad stuff happened apparently.

Kidhuman
03-31-2004, 08:23 AM
AXL pulled out of a show, surprise surprise :beard:

evenflow
03-31-2004, 08:48 AM
Its ashame that Chinese Democracy is never going to come out. It would sell, it really would. The greatest hits that came out last week debuted at #3 on the billboard charts and soundscan has it selling 169,203 copies. That is just a greatest hits without any songs on it. Only if it did, imagine then.

arctangent
03-31-2004, 08:53 AM
that greatest hits package is a joke. only three songs from appetite? who is buying it. surely most g'n'r fans have all the tracks that are on it already.

and kidhuman, did i detect the merest hint of sarcasm in your post?

Kidhuman
03-31-2004, 08:58 AM
me be sarcastic.....never. :beard:

arctangent
03-31-2004, 09:06 AM
me be sarcastic.....never. :beard:

hmmmm :confused: .

El Chuxter
03-31-2004, 12:13 PM
There was one possibility that could make me someday consider picking up the Greatest Hits package: if "Since I Can't Have You" is the radio version without the retarded "Yep, we're ****ed" ad-lib in the middle.

Pretty poorly chosen track listing. They could've thrown on some classic obscurities ("You Ain't the First"), tracks with naughty words that still get radio play ("Mr Brownstone"), b-sides, outtakes, maybe the original raw demo of "Don't Cry." But this, eccch. I see why Axl and the real band members put their differences aside long enough to try to block the release.

James Boba Fettfield
03-31-2004, 05:38 PM
What is really funny about all of this are the comments Axl made regarding the cancellation:


During his tenure with the band, Buckethead has been inconsistent and erratic in both his behavior and commitment despite being under contract creating uncertainty and confusion and making it virtually impossible to move forward with recording, rehearsals and live plans with confidence. His transient lifestyle has made it impossible for even his closest friends to have nearly any form of communication with him whatsoever.


According to those who have actually spoken with Buckethead, it appears his plans were to secure a recording contract with Sanctuary Records which I encouraged my management to make available to him, quit GN'R and to use his involvement in the upcoming GUNS release to immediately promote his individual efforts...Nice guy!


Regardless of anyone's opinions of me and what I may or may not deserve, clearly the fans, individuals in this band, management, crew and our support group do not deserve this type of treatment.


In the meantime rather than dwelling on the negative, GUNS will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months


Well, I found it to be funny.

TheDarthVader
03-31-2004, 07:33 PM
This really sucks. Axl is a butt hole and I don't like him.

2-1B
04-01-2004, 12:41 AM
"You Ain't the First" - one of my favorite GNR songs ! ! !

Special nod to "The Garden" (thank you, Alice Cooper :) )

Axl thinks someone is erratic ? That's funny.

After Brides of Destruction fall apart, maybe he can get Tracii back. ;)

arctangent
04-01-2004, 03:12 AM
During his tenure with the band, Buckethead has been inconsistent and erratic in both his behavior and commitment despite being under contract creating uncertainty and confusion and making it virtually impossible to move forward with recording, rehearsals and live plans with confidence. His transient lifestyle has made it impossible for even his closest friends to have nearly any form of communication with him whatsoever.

mr pot, meet mr kettle!

Darkness Shroud
04-01-2004, 03:13 PM
Where to begin...... G'n'R! I loved them in the 80s/90s. At art college they rocked my world! Hell i even grew my hair long! Then got into the grunge scene. I didnt know until 2 weeks ago what the (new) line-up looked like until MTV2 did a live bands show of some MTV awards. And what did i see, Axl Rose looking rougher then a tramp's trouser leg and some tit with a KFC bucket on his head! What the hell happened? I went to see Slash's snakepit in 96/97 (can't quite remember) and they were great. Does anybody know what the new album from Slash is gonna be like?:)

evenflow
04-02-2004, 08:42 AM
I really wish that when Axl brought Zakk into GNR, things would have worked out. Zakk would have straightened Axl out, would have literally beat the hell out of him.

arctangent
04-02-2004, 09:01 AM
there have been a couple of interviews with zakk in the uk rock press recently and it sounds like he would have given it a go but ozzy needed to know if he was joining g'n'r or touring with him and axl was mucking him about and not returning his calls, so he chose to stick with ozzy. he didn't think that the stuff he recorded with g'n'r would ever be released, but then again, will anything that anyone has recorded with g'n'r?

El Chuxter
04-02-2004, 12:12 PM
Post Spaghetti-Incident GNR has been really odd. At one point, I recall Shaquille O'Neal was guest-rapping on a track from Chinese Democracy (which has probably been wiped in the gazillion re-records they've done).

At least we have Velvet Revolver to look forward to, and Izzy and Gilby keep on releasing excellent solo albums (even if Izzy's are only available as imports).

Slash's Snakepit recorded two albums. The first was pretty cool, but the second blew chunks. Worse than Duff's solo album from 1993. They're both in Velvet Revolver, which sounds like vintage GNR with Scott Weiland on vocals. I've not heard anything from them aside from "Set Me Free" (from the Hulk soundtrack), which is more then enough to ensure I'll be getting that one. :D

2-1B
04-02-2004, 10:03 PM
I saw Snakepit open for AC/DC in the summer of 2000 and of course Ryan Roxie who was in Snakepit early on is now with Alice Cooper.

I met Ryan while waiting to get inside for an Alice show in 2001 . . . nobody else recognized him but as soon as I asked him to take a pic with me and sign my ticket stub, everybody had to jump in line. :D
I was ticked because I had no CDs for him to sign but I just met Alice the night before at a signing so I didn't think anything would come up.

Oh yeah, GNR - Zakk might just be as crazy as Axl but at least Zakk has a work ethic. :crazed:

Tycho
04-14-2007, 11:42 AM
That's the thing with GNR: I loved Appetite, enjoyed Spaghetti, and rocked to the Illusions.

I saw them in concerts a few times as well. They always managed to screw up or get into fights with each other, stop a song and restart it, walk off the stage...I was fortunate in that I don't ever recall holding tickets to a cancelled show.

But the point is, GNR is unreliable directly because of its band members / former members. Skid Row opened for them at one show I saw them in and I totally came away just thinking how thankful I was to see Sebastian Bach.

Another time I saw GNR with Metallica. Of course that was a powerful lineup, but you don't even have to guess who played better.

As to a future for GNR? Those guys will have to prove themselves to many like me who SHOULD already be their fans. What that means? I'll borrow someone else's CD if a new one comes out and spend some time listening to it and then decide if I want to buy a copy for myself.

You know: if Queensryche puts out a new CD, I know it's good before I even open the wrapper. That's the difference.

JimJamBonds
04-15-2007, 09:57 PM
So is there a new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new release date for the record yet? Which of corpse will be pushed back even further.

CaptainSolo1138
04-16-2007, 08:02 AM
So is there a new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new release date for the record yet?On GnR's MySpace page, they claim it'll be out this year. Why does that sound so familiar?:rolleyes:

JimJamBonds
04-16-2007, 11:28 PM
On GnR's MySpace page, they claim it'll be out this year. Why does that sound so familiar?:rolleyes:

'cause we've been hearing that one for the last I don't know how many years!

El Chuxter
02-04-2008, 11:50 AM
So, uh, anyone heard anything about Chinese Democracy lately?

I think there's more Chinese Democracy in Communist China than in Axl's demented little noggin.

Rocketboy
02-04-2008, 11:56 AM
Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Democracy) says:

In January 2008, rumors arose that Chinese Democracy had been handed over to Geffen Records, but had been delayed because the label and Rose couldn't agree on the marketing of the album.[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Democracy#_note-antimusic) Eddie Trunk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Trunk) also claimed Geffen might have the album: "I hear the new G&R CD is actually done, but the delay in release is not the bands issues but the label. There is so much money tied up in this record that in todays[sic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic)] business it will be virtually impossible to be profitable, meaning the label might want to sell it off but can not find a buyer since nobody buys CDs anymore. Problem might not be Axl this time around and might keep this CD in limbo for more years to come. Hopefully it gets resolved."[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Democracy#_note-Eddie_Trunk_blog) In a February '08 interview with Classic Rock Magazine, Rose's personal manager Beta Lebeis debunked Trunk's suggestion and was quoted as saying "we're currently in negotations with the record label".But it also lists Shaquille O'Neal as a guest vocalist.


But at this point, does anyone give a sh*t anymore?

El Chuxter
02-04-2008, 12:01 PM
Funny, for all the hype around the "death of the CD," I see a lot of people buying them. GNR fans will want physical copies. Especially if, like most new CDs, it's actually cheaper for a week or two to buy the CD than to buy the tracks off iTunes or amazon.

And, no, no one gives a carp. Except Lucas. He's a moron. He's planning a new cartoon based on Chinese Democracy.

Tycho
02-06-2008, 05:00 AM
And, no, no one gives a carp. Except Lucas. He's a moron. He's planning a new cartoon based on Chinese Democracy.

He is? Oh I so hope an animated Dog the Bounty Hunter will guest star in it!

JimJamBonds
02-25-2008, 08:21 PM
I I so annoyed with him at this point. Chinese Democracy is never going to come out. I have given up all hope.

Its only been 4 years since this thread was started... still have hope 'flow?

JetsAndHeels
02-25-2008, 09:54 PM
When this is the latest thread posted in under the music section, it appears as follows on the main forum:

Guns N' Roses pull out of person's name who last posted



So now it looks like:

Guns N' Roses pull out of Jetsandheels!!

man, I have a dirty and demented mind.

Jedi_Kal-El
02-26-2008, 08:33 PM
So, uh, anyone heard anything about Chinese Democracy lately?

I think there's more Chinese Democracy in Communist China than in Axl's demented little noggin.

It's almost spooky funny how much I always agree with you Chux.