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JediTricks
04-20-2004, 10:26 PM
The extras on the OT DVDs were announced earlier today, the OT DVD set will come with over 10 hours of 'bonus materials', including new commentary tracks on the 3 films from George Lucas, Carrie Fisher, and others, a 2.5 hour documentary, an Episode III preview, original trailers and advertising, and more.

Complete details: http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/news/2004/04/news20040420.html

So what do you think of these extras? Cast your vote now and share your thoughts.

sith_killer_99
04-20-2004, 10:36 PM
Well, I voted, they look just great, of course they would look even better if GL threw in 3 more discs with the Original Theatrical Releases on them, but that's not gonna happen and I just need to accept that. :cry:

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joesdomain
04-20-2004, 11:45 PM
I love them except I want more extras. I doubt Lucas will release another DVD version after this. He will probably wait for the next movie medium to come out before releasing it. I still would like to see audio commentary by the director of Return of the Jedi, Kenny Baker, Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamil, Harrison Ford, David Prowse, Billy Dee Williams, John Williams, James Earl Jones, the actor who played the emperor, Peter Mayhew, and Jeremy Bulloch.

daricksstarwars
04-20-2004, 11:51 PM
I was expecting to see alot of deleted scenes. They were not mentioned in the list or am I just really blind and didn't see them? Other than that, it sounds like most of the extras will be very good. I am especially looking foreward to seeing the 2 1/2 hour documentary! :D

JediTricks
04-20-2004, 11:52 PM
ROTJ's director, Richard Marquand, died almost 20 years ago, so unless he did a commentary for some other format or Lucasfilm edits some of his interview comments into a commentary track, I'm afraid we're never going to get one.

I'm a little surprised there isn't a music-only John Williams commentary track.

Kidhuman
04-21-2004, 07:03 AM
Until they put the original releases on them, it will only be good, with me wanting more.

Rocketboy
04-21-2004, 09:14 AM
They look pretty damn good, but I want deleted scenes and more actors in the commentary. I find it hard to believe that Anthony Daniels and Mark Hamill weren't available!

skeeziks22
04-21-2004, 11:29 AM
I'm still holding out for deleted scene information. Maybe these won't be included on the fourth disk which is why they weren't mentioned. It would make more sense to put them on the movie disks. The scenes have been released already, so i find it hard to believe they wouldn't include them with this boxed set.

an observation...

I find it interesting that when most movies come out on DVD the version most people choose is the Director's Cut, or the Unrated Version. But when SW comes to DVD it sounds like most people want the original cut from the big screen, and not the director's final vision. Then again, when most movies come out, both versions are offered.

IMFETTUP
04-21-2004, 11:33 AM
I'll tell ya, I am excited about anything that has "extra" and "Star Wars" in the same sentence!

James Boba Fettfield
04-21-2004, 12:04 PM
Can't say I really care about the extras. Nice to have them, but they never make or break buying a boxset for me.

glenntn
04-21-2004, 12:35 PM
It would seem that GL is sticking a little too close to the formula for the release of the Indiana Jones trilogy.

While there was little documentary footage available for IJ, there is plenty of it for SW, but NONE of it is part of this release. It has some new documentaries and a lot of previews related to EIII.

Basically, GL had not planned on releasing the OT on DVD until 2006 or later. With the success of the IJ release on DVD, he is putting out a similar release to meet some of the demand as well as promote EIII.

I would expect a future 2- or 3-disc per movie set to be available in the future that includes the title-specific making of documentary, deleted scenes, casting videos, frenzy surrounding the release, etc. Of course, who knows what version of the film will be on them.

joe-da
04-21-2004, 12:54 PM
Not good at all....
Why?
No DELETED SCENES...
No ORIGINAL versions of the films.

Mandalorian Candidat
04-21-2004, 03:22 PM
Not good at all....
Why?
No DELETED SCENES...
No ORIGINAL versions of the films.

Going along with all the scuttlebutt we read constantly on this and other forums I agree that we just won't see the OT on DVD unless G.Lu does a Mike Tyson (goes broke) and needs some quick $$. It bugs me that deleted scenes are being left out, but I chalk it up to LucasFilm doing an ultimate collectors DVD set after EP3's release.

While I am glad for the 10 hours we're getting, I wish they'd include "The Making of Star Wars," that doc. that Don LaFontaine narrated (the guy who used to do the voice overs for every single movie trailer and all of Fox's TV promo ads). Footage from it will probably be included in the Empire of Dreams piece, but it was soooo 70s it's great to watch and laugh at all the Farrah Fawcett wanabees in it.

Well, let's all look at the bright side. At least Ricky Dick McCallum won't be doing the commentaries. :D

DTMAN
04-21-2004, 03:27 PM
I believe it will be good.

But until they add the following, it will not be great:
1) Commentary from the entire cast
2) Original versions
3) Deleted scenes from each film.

Oh, well, I guess it will come out with the Definitive or Ultimate Edition in 2007.

As a certain Jedi Master said, "Hard to see...always the future in motion."

Thunder Mouse
04-21-2004, 03:58 PM
I put down ok, but not great. Like alot of pepole here I am dissapointed they are not includeing deleated parts in the DVDs or atleast it dosnt sound like it. Id like to see the original versions of the films, but id settel for atleast includeing the original shots that were re done somewear oin the set. It dosnt sound like they are going to have eather of those in the box set though. Unlike with VHS tapes that over time the quality of them becomes less and less, if you take care of a DVD, it should look just as good as long as you own it. there for, I dont plan on buying another version down the line. Im sick of wateing for it to come out and honestly feal that fans of the movies are getting jipped on the wate alone, and now on the features included. And something I DONT want to see are the prevews for episode 3. I want to know as little as possible about it. I dont like paying for advertisements eather. I do plan to buy the DVDs when they come out september 21st, but I wont be forking over more money later on to buy a new version of them unless they have an ungodly amount of features on it for a bargan basement price.

chrisc
04-21-2004, 04:23 PM
I have seen movie on DVD that had an option to watch the origional or theredone withe extra scenes option. does anyone know if this is gonna happen to these?????

skeeziks22
04-21-2004, 04:41 PM
I have seen movie on DVD that had an option to watch the origional or theredone withe extra scenes option. does anyone know if this is gonna happen to these?????


This will almost certainly NOT happen with these DVDs. GL is very finicky about what he wants to be considered the OFFICIAL version of the movie. these are his babies and he doesn't want anyone else to even have the option of seeing the original, or the cut scenes included. I bet if he had his wishes everyone owning the original version of any of the movies would have to turn them in before getting the boxed set on DVD.

I have seen DVDs that allow you to play deleted scenes and something pops up on the screen during the movie saying "Deleted scene begins" and then after the scene "Deleted scene ends" and the movie continues as normal until the next cut scene. I really like this option, and it usually helps convince me that the scenes were just fine to cut... but I am betting there is no way this will happen to these.

JediTricks
04-21-2004, 05:31 PM
I find it interesting that when most movies come out on DVD the version most people choose is the Director's Cut, or the Unrated Version. But when SW comes to DVD it sounds like most people want the original cut from the big screen, and not the director's final vision. Then again, when most movies come out, both versions are offered.In general, most movies where I prefer the director's cut to the original are films where the original was released with studio- or MPAA-mandated changes to the original vision, this is the case with Star Trek:The Motion Picture (which actually has 2 director's cuts, one from a few years ago and one from 20 years ago). But Star Wars:ANH wasn't altered by the studio in any way I know of, and was "completed" once Lucas added the "Episode IV: A New Hope" title to the film in '80, he could have made any changes he wanted at that point (such as Beru's voice, for example of a change that happened at one point) and left it the way we saw it between then and '96.

Moreover, the special editions of ESB and ROTJ weren't even done under the supervision of their directors, and weren't even originally planned to be Special Editioned when Lucas was doing that special edition project, the ESB and ROTJ SEs were whims, arbitrary afterthoughts of Lucas who had the tools out already and said "might as well do 'em all". You can see my full explanation on this in the following thread: http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=23018



Well, let's all look at the bright side. At least Ricky Dick McCallum won't be doing the commentaries. :DYeah, I was relieved to see him included out. ;) Especially because I was pretty sure Lucas was going to have him sit in on the commentary tracks on these for his "contribution" to the series.



I believe it will be good.

But until they add the following, it will not be great:
1) Commentary from the entire cast
2) Original versions
3) Deleted scenes from each film.Yeah, that's my take on the situation too. Not even counting the extras from the Definitive Laserdisc set, look at all the content on the Magic Of SW CD-ROM that could have been included on this set.

tagmac
04-21-2004, 10:56 PM
As well as the deleted scenes, I would love to see ALL of the trailers and tv spots from 1977-1983.....don't know why they decided to leave them out.

plasticfetish
04-22-2004, 03:30 AM
"Ok, not fantastic"

Same reasons as everyone pretty much.
The extras aren't so important to me, but they're nice to have. Not going to end up watching the documentary stuff over and over again. Tagmac's idea about trailers and commercials is a good one... I'd like that.

Mostly, I would really like "true" archival versions of the films (like some/most have already said) including all old commercials, promos, advertising, TV promo interviews, etc. from around the world included.

Seriously if they came out a few years from now and did a version like that, with just the pre-SE stuff on it, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

On the brightest side, no matter what we end up with, it'll be nice to not have to see the stupidly long prequel junk that's stuck at the front of my VHS copies any more.

skeeziks22
04-22-2004, 11:20 AM
You can see my full explanation on this in the following thread: http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=23018



I read ths post of yours and I tend to agree. I never did understand why GL decided NOT to direct Empire and ROTJ, though I guess most fans can be grateful that he did. Curious what they would have been like if he had... better, worse? Who can tell at that time... he did direct ANH and it was a great film.
But he didn't direct them, and messing with another artists creation is poor judgement, especially when they are not involved in the project. If they could have fixed the ANH Jabba scene properly I would have loved to see it in there. If they could splice Han out and make him step on Jabba's tail they should have just as easily been able to make him walk in front of Jabba using a little photo shop magic to reverse the image so he is looking the other way (ie still looking at Jabba). Other than that the film should not have been messed with (other than possibly restoring it to the original theatre release which i can no longer remember how it differed... any help there?).

Devo
04-22-2004, 07:50 PM
I look forward to the documentary and the commentaries. I'm glad theres at least one cast member in them. But I could care less about those extras that have nothing to do with these three films - the video game crap and the Episode III preview, which will be interesting in the meantime but once Episode III comes out we don't need it anymore. These films need the Alien quadrilogy treatment - if extras is what you're after. But it'll still be great to have the 'proper' (sorry prequel lovers) star wars films on DVD, even in their special edition forms, which I, strangely for a prequel hater, actually prefer to the original versions.

skeeziks22
04-23-2004, 11:20 AM
But I could care less about those extras that have nothing to do with these three films - the video game crap and the Episode III preview, which will be interesting in the meantime but once Episode III comes out we don't need it anymore.

That's what I really hate about DVDs that add trailers before the film. Even though DVDs have the advantage of being able to skip those things, the fact is the trailers and ads (for video games) will become out of date and pointless in a short period of time, while the DVDs and movies on them could last for as long as you care for them.

Pendo
04-27-2004, 07:46 AM
I've voted for "Good, but I want way more". I think the special features sound amazing, but disapointed with the absence of deleted scenes :(.

20th September can't come soon enough :D!

PENDO!

jgk1701
05-02-2004, 12:34 AM
I personally love to watch extras on DVD's: documentaries, audio commentaries, behind the scenes, etc. And naturally any extra material related to Star Wars is greatly welcome. However one extra I was really hoping for has sadly been omitted....

John Williams' music enhances these movies so much, how can his contribution to our favorite movies be so lightly disregarded? Its a crime that his wonderfully crafted music is not on separate audio channel. I was looking forward to that day, when the original trilogy was released on DVD, watching my favorite scenes without dialogue or sound effects and just listening to the music playing in the background. I would have immediately put in ANH and fast forwarded to the Death Star battle and revelled in one of the best marriages of movie visuals and music in cinematic history.

But I am sure the decision to omit such a feature was fueled by the possible loss of revenue from soundtrack sales. Why buy the soundtracks when they are right there on the DVD?

And to those of you who are not listening to the soundtracks, shame on you!! Put Brittany Spears away for a little while and listen to some truly enjoyable music. Caution: Listening to ANH Tie Fighter battle music could cause you to speed while driving.

JediTricks
05-03-2004, 03:32 PM
Yeah, I was quite surprised that there wasn't a music-only commentary myself. I can only guess this was omitted because Williams is so busy scoring Episode III, so I can only hope that on the next incarnation of the OT DVDs (which will hopefully have the non-SEs on 'em) that they include this feature.