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JediTricks
09-13-2004, 06:06 PM
There are many different facets to the modern Star Wars figures that Hasbro produces which entice collectors and casual fans alike. A lot of work goes into each one of these figures from all sorts of areas, everywhere from packaging to sculpt to accessories is taken into consideration. Some fans are drawn to the line because of the likenesses while others are most impressed by the look of the packaging or the dynamic poses, some are even into the 3" figures because of their small accessories. With which one trait do you think Hasbro consistantly shows their best work?

Bobby Fett
09-13-2004, 07:11 PM
This was an easy one, because my primary focus is card variations.

Kidhuman
09-13-2004, 08:04 PM
I chose packaging becuase there are alot of figures that dont look like the characters. Since I am an MOC collector, that is what matters to me. If they nuetrally posed figures, then that would be for me.

MagusPSU
09-13-2004, 10:03 PM
I had to say likeness. I mean, if we're talking about what they're producing now as opposed to what was coming out back in the 70's/80's, these figures look more like the characters compared to the impressionist stylings from days of yore.

M.

stillakid
09-13-2004, 10:32 PM
Likeness. Though I notice that it's neck and neck with "sculpt" and I don't understand what the difference between those two is. But likeness is numero uno on the list. No matter how great the gimmick or packaging or accessories are, if the basic figure doesn't look like what it's supposed to look like, there is no point to it. And Hasbro has been consistent in doing that well. :)

Rocketboy
09-14-2004, 01:13 AM
Packaging. They've been too hit and miss with every other category, although scale is much better than it used to be.

dindae
09-14-2004, 06:40 AM
I chose likeness because ultimately that's why I buy the figures. Now I do recognize that most of the major characters still have not gotten a really good head sculpt but since licensing was not one of the options it was the next accurate option.

OC47150
09-14-2004, 07:14 AM
Although likeness is getting better, I had to vote for packaging.

Jaff
09-14-2004, 10:57 AM
Although I really adore what hasbro has done with the OTC packaging, I'm into the collecting for the loose figures. They can sculpt great, but figures like the generic X-wing pilot, amidalla arena, and holographic Luke lack consistancy so sculpt doesn't win it with me. The LIKENESSES are what grabs me. I'm interested in seeing stuff as it relates to the film. Since I collected back in the vintage days the improvement is wonderful.

skeeziks22
09-14-2004, 05:17 PM
If you can believe it I actually voted for "accessories". The reason does not lie in what the guns are made of, or if the stands connect well... these are both reasons NOT to vote this way. The reason I voted this way is because these figures are coming with more and more accessories and cooler bases than ever before. Granted, not every figure, but overall it's true. Some of these figures now would have been deluxe figures a few years ago (look at Amanaman for example). More play value for our buck!

The OTC packaging is cool, but no others were, the sculpts sometimes suck, the paint is horrible frequently, the poses bite dung outside of the packaging. And, I know, the accessories weren't always as numerous... but this is one small area they are picking up on. Now if they can just make those guns out of stiffer plastic.

Ji'dai
09-14-2004, 05:43 PM
I chose likeness, although I consider sculpt to be a similar term. From the initial wave in 1995, I think the modern figures are a pretty decent representation of the characters in the films. I actually now prefer the modern line to the vintage one, even though I grew up playing with the latter.

JediTricks
09-14-2004, 07:31 PM
Stilla, "Likeness" is about accuracy and recognizability of the look, especially of the face, while "Sculpt" is about the quality of detail whether it's accurate or not.

Hellboy
09-14-2004, 07:31 PM
Likeness and sculpt seem like the same thing to me too. Since a good sculpt is essential to a good likeness I'd consider them equally important.

EDIT: Funny I posted at the exact same time as your explanation.

Turbowars
09-14-2004, 08:19 PM
I love a great card, but Sculpting gets my vote.

B'Omarr Monkey
09-15-2004, 12:23 AM
Even though they still haven't made a figure that actually looks like Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Dr Evazan, and AOTC Ewan & Hayden,to name a few, overall, the characters really look like the characters, and that's the important thing. The good sculpts/likenesses outway the bad by a wide margin. Admiral Motti, Grand Moff Tarkin, Sio Bibble, Orn Free Taa, the recent Saga Lando's, the over released commtech Han, have all been incredible.

Except for the animated Clone Wars, I've found the packaging to be the weakest aspect of the SW line. The cards have always been really dull and uninteresting all around. Even the OTC cards, when seen in person, aren't that great. With all the glare on the bubble insert and the bubble itself, it's hard to even see the backdrop in most cases. Greedo came off the best so far. The classic black and silver design does look best with the vehicles and multi-packs. The vehicle packaging has been really strong for a while IMO.

I'm an opener, so I don't really care about the cards anyway.

stillakid
09-15-2004, 10:55 AM
Stilla, "Likeness" is about accuracy and recognizability of the look, especially of the face, while "Sculpt" is about the quality of detail whether it's accurate or not.


:confused: I still don't see the difference. You used the word "accurate" in both explanations. I suppose if you are suggesting that, say, a Han Solo figure didn't look a thing like Harrison but for what it was, it was "sculpted" very well, then I see the point. So you're equating "sculpt" with the artistic and technical prowess of the toy makers and leaving the "likeness" issue out of it entirely. But isn't a top notch "likeness" also a top notch "sculpt" by default? Is it possible to have an A+ likeness but a D- sculpt?

skeeziks22
09-15-2004, 11:26 AM
Is it possible to have an A+ likeness but a D- sculpt?


Not my question to answer, but since it was posted I'll take a shot. I say you CAN have a good likeness, but a crappy sculpt. I can think of one figure that stands out to me personally... the latest Emperor figure (not the holo emp.) has a great face, really showing the detail and anger of the movie character and it looks a ton like him (likeness)... however the sculptors blew it with the hood (sculpt) that would translate into fabric that would be about four inches thick on a 6 foot tall person. Good likeness, bad sculpt.

This is one example, but I can't think of a lot more, so I am guessing a lot of the votes in those two categories are leaning toward the same thoughts as Stilla has.

On the flip side, many figures may have a great sculpt, but they are not movie accurate. Sometimes due to the fact you can't see the whole character on screen (think Tanus and J-Quille). This is the easier side of the argument to see b/c getting faces to look right is more difficult than getting arms, legs and torsos right... you would assume.

Kyle Katarn
09-16-2004, 06:53 PM
I say packaging, becuase I am a "carded" collector I look how does the card looks like, and how will it look in my collection.

Slicker
09-17-2004, 05:00 PM
I too chose packaging. I've said it before in many a post and I'll say it again, I love how a well displayed carded collection looks.

stillakid
09-17-2004, 05:22 PM
I too chose packaging. I've said it before in many a post and I'll say it again, I love how a well displayed carded collection looks.

I've often visited the local Toys R Us just to sit and look at how lovely those displays look. Like the Grand Canyon, it's best if you take the time to see how the light actually changes how a carded collection appears throughout the day. It's quite specatular...the flourescents glinting off the bubbles like that...the array of dazzling colors reflecting from the rows and rows of Snaggletooths. And secretly, I've tried taking snapshots but pictures never really capture the essence of a carded display. There's nothing like actually being there, ya know?

Kyle Katarn
09-17-2004, 05:52 PM
I've often visited the local Toys R Us just to sit and look at how lovely those displays look. Like the Grand Canyon, it's best if you take the time to see how the light actually changes how a carded collection appears throughout the day. It's quite specatular...the flourescents glinting off the bubbles like that...the array of dazzling colors reflecting from the rows and rows of Snaggletooths. And secretly, I've tried taking snapshots but pictures never really capture the essence of a carded display. There's nothing like actually being there, ya know?

You're describing exactly what I feel when I visit a stor full of toys, its just like feeling butterflies in the belly. :crazed:

Kidhuman
09-17-2004, 08:23 PM
I've often visited the local Toys R Us just to sit and look at how lovely those displays look. Like the Grand Canyon

Maybe if they restocked the shelves, it wouldn't look like the Grand Canyon. Fill in the spaces already.

mastermatt24
09-18-2004, 12:50 PM
Maybe if they restocked the shelves, it wouldn't look like the Grand Canyon. Fill in the spaces already.
Lol , cant remeber what I voted for.:crazed: Anyways KH you are totaly right.

JediTricks
09-19-2004, 07:30 PM
Lol , cant remeber what I voted for.:crazed: Anyways KH you are totaly right.
The poll option you voted for will be in italics when you view the results.

mastermatt24
09-19-2004, 11:44 PM
The poll option you voted for will be in italics when you view the results.
Oh well it doesnt really matter does it? I was just to tired to remeber.. :neutral: :Pirate: :Pirate:

JediTricks
09-20-2004, 12:44 AM
It might matter to you, or if you don't buy that ;) I was really just letting anybody who didn't know about this feature in on this little feature. :D

Deoxyribonucleic
09-20-2004, 10:02 PM
I went with scale...they make the meanest, badest 3.75" figures out there. To me, the scale is indicative of the sculpt as I think they are excellent at both.


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mastermatt24
09-20-2004, 10:05 PM
Lol. Thanks for the laugh deoxy, I needed that