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Wolfwood319
12-24-2001, 08:50 PM
I'm not sure if this has been brought up or not, I've been off for a couple of days, but I just got the new Amanaman figure, and is it me, or does the figure seem shorter than its supposed to be?

Other than the height, its an incredible figure, but I thought he was taller.

Beast
12-24-2001, 09:14 PM
Nope, CollectStarWars.com compared pictures from the movie of Amanaman standing next to normal height charecters in Jabba's palace. He's a proper heigth in his POTJ incarnation. The original POTF figure was to large, thats all.

Hope that information helps ya. Either way it's a great figure. Wish I could find one in stores. I wish I could find the Luke: Bacta Chamber around here.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jargo
12-25-2001, 08:17 AM
I thought it was rebelscum who did the comparison shots? They had both of the incarnations side by side and also a comparison with an Imperial officer and a chewie mechanic. The new amanaman is correst scale. he is only as tall as a human and in the film he is as tall as the gamorrean guard he stands next to as Leia and Han are discovered by Jabba and his cronies.

I'm curios though, one of the pics at rebelscum had the staff Amanaman comes with looking really droopy and soft. Is it like that? I hate it when accessories are all rubbery. These new POTJ weapons are all soft plastic and bendy as hell. They get warped out of shape as soon as you look at them. Just curious about this staff that's all. :)

Beast
12-25-2001, 02:24 PM
Yep, my bad.
It was Rebelscum, I got my websites mixed up. Either way, yes the new POTJ Amanaman is in the correct scale.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

bigbarada
12-25-2001, 06:11 PM
Yep, Jargo, Amanaman's staff is droopy rubbery plastic. So are his arms and feet and hands.... I got mine and the hand weighs the arm down so much that his forearm looks broken. Plus you would think that a figure with such big feet would stand easier, but the super soft rubbery plastic warps too easily and he falls over a lot.:mad:

JEDIpartner
12-26-2001, 08:56 AM
so, Barada, what you're saying is...

Now that they have the detailing and sculpting done accurately, we get crappier materials. Well, isn't that just lovely??? Thanks so much for your consideration Habrso!

This makes me want to run out and get this one so fast! :frus:

John
12-26-2001, 11:36 AM
Hello!

I used to work on Star Wars guys at Hasbro, and I hate reading threads like this where people complain about stuff they don't understand.

I just wanted to clarify something about "rubbery" accessories. Hasbro isn't doing this to tick you guys off, it is done for one reason: safety. Our safety group at hasbro requires us to do one of these two things when designing accessories:

1 - make them rounded enough that they are no longer a legal "sharp point"

or

2 - make them out of a material known as "soft durometer" PVC so they bend. contrary to what you guys have been saying, PVC is actually more expensive than rigid materials. The good thing about it is that it allows you to mould "undercuts", or finer detail becasue the soft-material flexes out of the mould.

Just clarifying. The staff was made soft to pass out rigid saftey requirements.

after all, these are toys, folks.

yours truly --

john

AmanaMatt
12-26-2001, 01:56 PM
thanks for the above post...as for my Amanaman, well, I have no problem with his staff at all. It is not made of the super soft plastic alot of the people here are complaining about. Compare Amanaman's staff to the new force pike that comes with Deluxe Leia...now that's rubbery plastic!

Jargo
12-26-2001, 02:44 PM
John,
If you'd read around a bit more you'd have seen that I've posted several times on the subject of toy safety standards and the reasoning behind the softer figures. Kids and eyes and pointy objects aside, it still sucks when this is touted as a collector focused year, that the standards applied to kids toys be applied to what are technically collector items.

I don't think there are many here who would condemn the sculptors outright. The sculptors do a terrific job as seen by the hardcopy pictures that came from the conventions. It's the materials chosen to make the figures out of and the factory production standards that are mostly called into question. Is there such a thing as quality control at Hasbro? Do the company see the actual toys that are lining the shelves? Are they aware at Hasbro HQ of the poor quality many people are seeing in those plastic blisters on cards?
Horrible horrible things are happening to fantastic sculpts. Leia with sail barge cannon, Amamanan, Imperial officer and Rebel fleet trooper - The prototypes and hardcopies are so great to look at but the final product stinks.
I urge Hasbro to look at the way these things are coming out of the factories and make some changes if they want to keep us as consumers.

bigbarada
12-26-2001, 04:23 PM
Either that or stop showing us so many pictures of the hardcopies and getting our hopes up. While Amanaman is a fantastic sculpt and is beautifully painted and detailed; there is still the issue of the gooey accessories and body parts. Is Hasbro the only company that adheres to these safety standards? It sure seems like it. I could point out several toys from mostly 12" collector's lines that don't seem to suffer from these problems. If Star Wars is supposed to be a collector's line then why do the "collector unfriendly" rules apply to them?

I any case I'm sure these rules could be adhered to while at the same time creating a toy that satisfies both collectors and inattentive parents. It would just take a little bit of creative thinking on Hasbro's part.

Sliver FBI
12-27-2001, 01:56 AM
I understand that they have to use soft plastic on accesories for safety reasons, but on Body Parts? Why?

BTW, Im not complaining, Im happy with the line as it is, Im just asking. :)

JEDIpartner
12-27-2001, 08:50 AM
Yeah...!

My gripe is with the body parts... not the accesories! :o

JEDIpartner
12-27-2001, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by stillakid
Safety? Geesh, I somehow made it through my childhood without losing an eye to any of my Star Wars figures or accessories. What pee-brain decided that kids have grown more careless in the new millenium to justify poor quality materials?

Hey there stillakid... look around you. We've got MTV's "Jacka$s" (which is now thankfully off the air) and all these other shows where younger people are doing stupid stuff, so my take on it is... kids are DEFINITELY getting dumber unless their parents exercise some sort of "stupidity intervention" programme. Oh, wait! That's just called "being a responsible parent and teaching your kids right from wrong".

stillakid
12-27-2001, 11:40 AM
Safety? Geesh, I somehow made it through my childhood without losing an eye to any of my Star Wars figures or accessories. What pee-brain decided that kids have grown more careless in the new millenium to justify poor quality materials?

Jayspawn
12-27-2001, 01:19 PM
Deluxe Amanaman rules!

Jargo
12-27-2001, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by bigbarada
Either that or stop showing us so many pictures of the hardcopies and getting our hopes up.
I disagree BigBarada. We need to see the hardcopy picture to keep our hopes afloat. It's heartening to see the level of craftsmanship that goes into a figures creation. If we don't see the original how do we know that they didn't try to dupe us with a piece of crap? By seeing the original pre-machine copy we can determine what it should have looked like. Then when the factory made product is as lame as a lame thing can be, we have a point of reference in our voiced opinions on the subject. We are able to compare and point out to Hasbro that they messed up, that they need beter quality control, that we don't like the compromises they took between hardcopy and factory production.
We have consumer rights of complaint and we should use them to keep companies from selling shoddy goods. Don't believe excuses or spin from the PR department, Just continue to voice complaints because whether they like it or not they have to listen if they want to survive. If they want the money to keep coming in.
Hasbro don't want us to see the unfinished product hardcopies so we don't know how they should have looked and will be content with what we get. Which stinks but it's business. And that's how business works. As consumers we have a certain amount of power to control how Hasbro works the line. We either say no it's a pile of crap and don't buy, or we say yes it's great and buy enormous quantities. simple but effective. Hasbro would be up the creek without a paddle if none of us bought the episode two product in protest over the poor quality and substandard production values.