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Jek Porky 2002
10-04-2004, 02:14 PM
Did each person do their own separate recording for the audio comentary?

Nobody seams to interact with each other, also I get the impression they're not even watching the film. It was the same on the Episode II comentary too!! The Episode I DVD is different, they do actually talk to each other on that and talk as though they are actually watching the film as they speak.

stillakid
10-04-2004, 02:52 PM
Did each person do their own separate recording for the audio comentary?

Nobody seams to interact with each other, also I get the impression they're not even watching the film. It was the same on the Episode II comentary too!! The Episode I DVD is different, they do actually talk to each other on that and talk as though they are actually watching the film as they speak.

I don't know what they did for this one, but it isn't out of the question for each participant to go into a studio to do their own commentary session. And usually, they are watching the movie while they talk about it, although they can start and stop as they go if they wish. Some people make it up as they go while others go in with a prepared list of what they want to say. There is no one way that these commentaries happen.

:)

JEDIpartner
10-04-2004, 04:01 PM
They recorded the individuals separately and then picked which comment they wished to use. The person compiling that track said he had a tough time choosing which person had the more interesting commentary for that bit. I thought there was a little too much Ben Burtt in the commentary track since most of his comments were present in "Empire of Dreams". *shrug*

Exhaust Port
10-04-2004, 04:05 PM
It's seems they did have everyone do their own commentary and mixed them up with "highlights" from each participant.

I would have preferred to see them broken down into 2 commentary tracks. 1 for the techical side of the movies (ie. SFX, director, GL) and a 2nd for the actors to give their memories from being apart of this movie.

I'm guessing that the full commentaries from everyone are on file at LucasSound so perhaps we'll get a full taste of them with the Archival Editions. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I haven't listened to the full commentary on ESB but from what I have watched I'm really disappointed with the Directors comments (his name escapes me now). Not only are a good portion of them the same thing he said in the documentary but he does nothing more than explain what we're watching, nothing real insightfull that's for sure.

derek
10-04-2004, 05:13 PM
They recorded the individuals separately and then picked which comment they wished to use. The person compiling that track said he had a tough time choosing which person had the more interesting commentary for that bit. I thought there was a little too much Ben Burtt in the commentary track since most of his comments were present in "Empire of Dreams". *shrug*

i agree. ben seems lie a nice guy, but i would of preferred seprate audio tracks. one for lucas. one for the cast and one for the technical geeks like burtt and dennis murren.

maybe on the next release?
;)

Bosskman
10-04-2004, 06:26 PM
I have only listened to the ANH commentary so far. I'm so surprised that most of what lucas says over and over again is about mythological character types. That is so insightful. I had no idea about that until these commentaries.....

As bad as it sound's that ex crack-***** carrie fisher had the best so far. It seems she's the only one watching the movie. The technical guys were alright too I guess, in places.

JediTricks
10-04-2004, 09:59 PM
Did each person do their own separate recording for the audio comentary?

Nobody seams to interact with each other, also I get the impression they're not even watching the film. It was the same on the Episode II comentary too!! The Episode I DVD is different, they do actually talk to each other on that and talk as though they are actually watching the film as they speak.
They do this a lot over at Skywalker Ranch, even the commentary tracks on the Definitive Collection Laserdiscs are like this. I don't like it, I want a group of people on one commentary to be interacting, basing their comments off things they said to each other - I don't want it to be a stupid party where nobody says anything about the film because they're too busy hanging out, or they are just telling us what we're seeing onscreen without any new info - not snippits of interviews spliced together for a faux-commentary track.


And Carrie Fisher never did crack, she was into the more "fashionable" drugs of the time. :p

Exhaust Port
10-04-2004, 10:44 PM
As bad as it sound's that ex crack-***** carrie fisher had the best so far. It seems she's the only one watching the movie. The technical guys were alright too I guess, in places.

You really hit one something there Bosskman. Carrie is the only person who seems to be reacting to the movie rather than just spouting some jibberish that has more of a place in the documentary than a play-by-play commentary.

mrmiller
10-04-2004, 11:08 PM
I wish they would do it like the MallRats commentary. Have them all sitting around a table watching the movie and talking about it. On the Mall Rats DVD you can even use the alternate camera angle to see them at the table as they discuss. That would make a cool SW DVD comentary.

=MATT=

dr_evazan22
10-05-2004, 12:23 AM
I watched all 3 at this point an it seems like when there is a time where I'd like to hear something from Lucas or an actor/director, Ben Burt comes on and gives some long speech about creating an obscure sound effect. I think he's got some cool things to say about how some sounds were created, but I've heard a bunch of the stories before on other DVD's (E1 or E2) or at conventions. Gimme something new!

I thought Carrie sounded kind of "out there" a couple of times.

Bosskman
10-05-2004, 06:06 AM
Yeah, she was kinda "out there" but I'd rather have "out there" than the same ol' gibberish from (at the risk of offending those who always bash me for bashing lucas' weight, or lack there of now, he does seem to have lost some I will concede) the bloated one:

"I'm george lucas, blah, blah, blah....... mythological, blah blah blah, ........backstory, blah, blah blah, digital technology, blah blah, blaaaaaah......"

dr_evazan22
10-05-2004, 01:25 PM
"I'm george lucas, blah, blah, blah....... mythological, blah blah blah, ........"

You hit that nail on the head! Add to that "I never expected SW to take off like it did." The stories about production, how the studio was pressuring him, and anecdotes about the actors was good. He also said that if he had any idea that Boba would have been such a popular figure then he would've given him a cooler death scene.

El Chuxter
10-05-2004, 01:43 PM
He also said that if he had any idea that Boba would have been such a popular figure then he would've given him a cooler death scene.

That's funny. Lucas hasn't yet destroyed all evidence that all the licensees met in 77 or 78 and created the Ultimate Marketable Character. Any guesses who? Here's a hint: he's a major character who appeared in the Holiday Special, and he isn't a Wookiee.

Bosskman
10-05-2004, 09:25 PM
Bea Arthur?

2-1B
10-06-2004, 03:16 AM
Art Carney ?

Grace Slick ?

Zutton ?

JediTricks
10-06-2004, 05:08 AM
I'd like to see it done like the MIB commentary, there's a telestrator and an MST3k-style silhouette of those speaking.

The cool thing about Carrie Fisher is that she's got some unique insight into the character and how that character views the situations in the film, even some extra background that we don't see onscreen but was discussed and fleshed out prior, but she hasn't seen the movie a million times so it is somewhat fresh to her, she gets to experience it anew. Plus, she's just a brilliant person, very detailed verbal type of thinking that often comes off so much wiser than she lets on.

Mandalorian Candidat
10-06-2004, 10:30 AM
I haven't listened to these yet, but I would like two tracks like some of you have mentioned. One with Lucas and one with everyone else would suit me fine. I though Lucas was the most interesting commentator from EP1 and 2 with Ricky-Dick and the animation guys only slightly more interesting than watching televised golf.

The way Peter Jackson had the commentaries done for LOTR was the best out of all my DVDs. Have a few people who all did the same thing (writers, actors, designers) in one commentary worked out well and was pretty entertaining. I'm still looking forward to listed to these SW ones, though.

JEDIpartner
10-06-2004, 11:57 AM
The cool thing about Carrie Fisher is that she's got some unique insight into the character and how that character views the situations in the film...
I really enjoy Carrie. She has such a wonderful sense of humour and playfulness that livened up the audio commentary tracks. Without her, they would have been far too dry. I would have just enjoyed hearing her prettle on about every last minute of the three films. I think there would have been some hilarious asides there. *shrug* Oh, well...

Bel-Cam Jos
10-10-2004, 10:18 AM
Really, REALLY off-tangent, but in some of the commentaries where there's other scene John Williams music, it totally warps the scene being shown. For example, when Ben is showing Luke Anakin's lightsaber for the first time, the background music on the commentary is an Imperial one. That was freaky! :eek:

I just like the fact that as a life-long SW fan who's seen and read virtually every behind-the-scenes bit of info, that there are still new tidbits I have not yet heard. These rock!