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Mad Slanted Powers
11-29-2004, 01:08 AM
So, a few weeks ago I got this urge to open a few of my Lord of the Rings figures. After opening a few of them, it made me want to open some of my Star Wars figures. I've been mostly a carded collector opening mostly duplicates, and most of those are army building types.

So, I decided to start with some Episode I carded figures. I figured that would be a good place to start. With the Commtech chips and different sizes in the bubbles, those figures don't stack nicely in the boxes I stored them in. Plus, most of them aren't worth anything anyway. Thus I opened about half of them one weekend.

So, over the next couple weeks I opened a few more, mostly some duplicate Saga and OTC figures. I really like the OTC line and the figures look nice in that packaging, so I decided I would even get all of the reissued figures so that I would have the entire line carded. This also led me to get duplicates of the new figures (except for the Scanning Trooper which I have yet to find).

So that brings me to this weekend. I spent most of Saturday opening more figures. I have now opened a fair number of POTF2 and POTJ figures, and a few Saga figures as well. I'd probably open more but I'm running out of places to display them.

So that raises the following questions. Have I taken my first step into a larger world, or have I started down a dark path that will forever dominate my destiny. And why does every paragraph in this post begin with "So"?

Bobby Fett
11-29-2004, 01:17 AM
So that raises the following questions. Have I taken my first step into a larger world, or have I started down a dark path that will forever dominate my destiny. And why does every paragraph in this post begin with "So"?

So do whatever makes you happy. I would say you've taken your first step into a larger world. Kidhuman will say you have started down a dark path that will forever dominate your destiny (and cause you to rot in hell, no doubt). ;)

So why shouldn't every paragraph start with "so"? :D

Mad Slanted Powers
11-29-2004, 01:34 AM
So do whatever makes you happy. I would say you've taken your first step into a larger world. Kidhuman will say you have started down a dark path that will forever dominate your destiny (and cause you to rot in hell, no doubt). ;)

So why shouldn't every paragraph start with "so"? :D

I guess it comes from my time in the early to mid 90's listening to CBC Radio's "Brave New Waves" program hosted by Brent Bambury. He'd usually open the show with some short anecdote that usually began, "So..." or "So I was...". I think it kind of gives an impression I'm just resuming an ongoing conversation, and of course, since what I say is so important, you've just been waiting for me to resume. :D

dindae
11-29-2004, 09:05 AM
So are there any figures you have new appreciation/repulsion for now that you changed how you collect?

X13VADER
11-29-2004, 01:06 PM
I Would Say A Little Of Both, I Know I Like To See What They All Can Do. How To Stand Them Or What Ever. Of Course Now I Have A Dozen Vaders Now But Its All Good. But It Will Dominate You From Now On.

Rocketboy
11-29-2004, 03:39 PM
I'm just reminded of a Sheryl Crow song, "If It Makes You Happy"

"If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad."

Mr. JabbaJohnL
11-29-2004, 06:00 PM
I personally like opening more than keeping them carded. Yeah, they look cool carded, but I keep the cards anyway, and it's not like I can't go online and look at carded pictures of figures. It's more fun to open them and mess around with them and make dioramas than it is to look at them sitting on a wall. Also it saves a crapload of space since the bubbles are a waste.

Ji'dai
11-29-2004, 08:06 PM
Why're you opening them for, they're not edible.

I think you started down the dark path when you bought your first figure. That's how I look at it. I usually buy two of each though; one to open, one to keep carded. I consider the carded figures to be spares, kind of like having an in-stock replacement should something happen to the loose figure.

Mad Slanted Powers
11-29-2004, 08:12 PM
I personally like opening more than keeping them carded. Yeah, they look cool carded, but I keep the cards anyway, and it's not like I can't go online and look at carded pictures of figures. It's more fun to open them and mess around with them and make dioramas than it is to look at them sitting on a wall. Also it saves a crapload of space since the bubbles are a waste.

Problem is, I've been keeping the bubbles as well, so I'm not really saving any space yet. I saved a little bit of space by separating the bubbles and storing them differently. I did throw away the bubbles for the LOTR figures I opened. Those early figures had larger packaging and took up a lot more space.


So are there any figures you have new appreciation/repulsion for now that you changed how you collect?

I'm really liking the articulation on some of these new figures. I was also suprised to see some earlier figures have a bit more than the standard. I think it was the Flashback Vader had some wrist and elbow articulation.

The figures I get disappointed in are ones that don't stand well or hold their guns/accessories well. Even worse is when the pegholes don't seem to be big enough. Battle droids are bad in this respect, and right now I am trying to get Bespin Leia to stay on her stand. Another figure I have a problem with is Mas Amedda. I think I have a defective one as he appears to have a leg length discrepancy. I started a thread about him in the POTJ area. Also, while the VOTC R2 is nice, I wish they would have made his middle leg like R3-A2 from the Hoth set.

Kidhuman
11-29-2004, 09:32 PM
So do whatever makes you happy. I would say you've taken your first step into a larger world. Kidhuman will say you have started down a dark path that will forever dominate your destiny (and cause you to rot in hell, no doubt). ;)

So why shouldn't every paragraph start with "so"? :D



What the heck dude?????


JUst because I collect carded, doesnt mean I think he is going to rot in hell.

Just so you know, I do plan on liberating my figures one day soon. I want to set up scenes with my figures. I just dont have the room to do it with at the present. When I get my house, and have enough room, then and only then will I open my figures. I dont want to lose any accessories, so better to keep them carded then to lose them. So, there you have it. I dont care if you open them, collect carded, pack em away, or keep them in your cupboard, it is all up to the individual.

Bobby Fett
11-29-2004, 09:51 PM
What the heck dude?????


JUst because I collect carded, doesnt mean I think he is going to rot in hell.

You know I was kidding. You're one of the nicest guys in the world. :beard:

LusiferSam
11-29-2004, 11:42 PM
They're toys! They were meant to be opened. Open them up, have fun with them. I don't know about you, I've never had much fun with a toy I couldn't open. I'm not sure about the "dark side," but now you've joined the fun side.

Jaff
11-30-2004, 07:02 AM
Back in 1995 I was commited to buying every figure packaged and carded. After all, my loose collection was always my priority. When I got the first Imperial Scanning officer with the Falcon case I opened the package, and kept the fig, but I never bought a second one.

When 2000 came I began to get rid of my packaged figs. Hasbro kept making too many rehashes and things were getting expensive. So when I opened up Scene 70 I donated most of my packaged collection to the store.

Today I am strictly loose. I keep two figures from every package change so that when I display the carded fig the evolution of the figs can be examined. The OTC and VOTC are pretty much the only thing that I collected both of everything. With this line ending I probably won't get much more packaged stuff.

I say open them all for these reasons:
1. They display better
2. They take up less room
3. You can appreciate the fig from all sides
4. Dioramas
5. You really don't have to worry about damaging them too much. You have to walk on egg shells to keep packaged figs in good shape.

There are tons of other reasons why I prefer loose figs, but these are pretty much my main reasons. There's nothing like opening up Ephant Mon and checking out his goofy tail. Or opening up a Death Star Trooper and taking his helmet off for the first time since it's initial release in 78, or even opening up a Wedding Padme and seeing a GARDER BELT and porno panties. How can you get that from packaged figs!

Finally let's talk about value. The only figs that have raised in price since 95 is the red carded variations, slide waves and a few oddball figs. It's now 9 years later. In twenty years maybe the figs will be worth something. I remember back in the old days everyone said that SW would be at it's prime value upon the release of Episode III. Well if this is it's prime it's pretty lame. Thinking SW is going to be worth a fortune like the vintage stuff is really unrealistic to expect in our lifetime. By writing this paragraph I am now announcing for the feuds to begin.

Devo
11-30-2004, 09:11 AM
Paraphrasing a Star Trek quote (STAR TREK??? LEAVE THIS FORUM HERETIC!!! :D ) - "I was like you once...so worried about mint cards and value - couldn't see past my own MOCness...and what did it get me? empty shelves...not this time"

About a year or two ago I spent the most enjoyable week of my life opening all my figures and since then toy collecting has been so much more fun. Continue on this path Posty333.

Deoxyribonucleic
11-30-2004, 05:25 PM
Just so you know, I do plan on liberating my figures one day soon.

Whoa thar...I can't believe what I just read?? ;)

I like the Cheryl Crow quote above, that seems appropriate here!

I was carded...I opened...it didn't change my psyche. I'm still the same ol' person I used to be, just with more little people around my home. :cool:

James Boba Fettfield
11-30-2004, 05:34 PM
I used to be tempted to open Star Wars figures. Then I actually had some opened (doubles I purchased due to various sales) and that desire to open what I owned left me. I just don't think they're that great out of package, and I know I prefer them in package. I think they look better displayed hanging on walls in package. My preference, though.

That is not to say I have gotten over this opening toys business. The higher detailed stuff is what gets me excited about opening. I look at a POTJ figure and think, "Eh, this is not something I would enjoy having opened." Then I see James Hetfield with hair whipped out from head banging in the middle of And Justice For All and I think, "Oh Christ, I must open and display you and have mock concerts with the TX and Stealth Predator." This was about Star Wars, right...

The Unleashed stuff, which I do not collect, is something I would give heavy thought to opening. The little guys just don't really have a lot to them begging to be opened. I like the figures and all, but I prefer those fellas carded.

bountyfool
11-30-2004, 07:31 PM
I'm an opener too but I haven't always been. I am a completist and as such I buy everything, including repaints. I no longer buy new carded figures if the card is the only thing different though. I appreciate the carded look but I don't have room for all of that AND most importantly, I have a 5 year old that likes to bend things. I gave up cringing everytime a card got bent and began opening them all. It took 2 weeks with help and now all the figures are loose and I kept some of the cards. All the vehicles were opened but I did keep the boxes nice and tidy. The best thing is I get to play with them with my daughter and not worry anymore. Highly recommended to anyone with children. It's great therapy :)

Slicker
11-30-2004, 08:30 PM
I'm a carded collector. If a figure strikes my fancy I may open it and free it from it's plastic coffin but I like the look of carded figures.

I too have been tempted to open all of my figures at one point but then it just seemed like I wasted all those years being careful not to damage the cards just to go and rip them open.

Mad Slanted Powers
11-30-2004, 08:43 PM
I guess I'm in the same boat as Kidhuman on this one. I've always planned on opening them, but didn't really have a place to display them. I've been in my own house for a year now, and my spare bedroom is filled with boxes full of Star Wars figures. The closet has LOTR figures on the floor, and mostly SW vehicles on the shelf. I started opening some LOTR figures as they take up a lot of space and those rounded packages don't stack well. That gave me the inspiration to open my SW figures. I'll be opening a lot more once I figure out where to put them once they are open. Still, I think the OTC and VOTC figures look great on the card, so I think I'll keep those carded. Except for Madine, I already have them on other cards anyway, and I've got duplicates of those that aren't.

Kidhuman
11-30-2004, 10:13 PM
Whoa thar...I can't believe what I just read?? ;)
:cool:


Hard to set up dioramas with figures on the card backs. Going to have to free them to do that.

Rocketboy
11-30-2004, 10:34 PM
Hard to set up dioramas with figures on the card backs.Now that is something I'd like to see!

Rebo's_Guitarist
12-01-2004, 12:25 AM
I say the card is an extension of the figure, and they must stay together......

Rocketboy
12-01-2004, 11:09 AM
I say the card is an extension of the figure, and they must stay together......And I say free the poor souls from thier plastic prison!

Set them free!
Set them free!
SET THEM FREE!

:D

Tycho
12-01-2004, 12:33 PM
You're missing the WHOLE POINT!

If you're going to OPEN THEM, \

SNIFF THEM WHILE THEY'RE FRESH!

That brand new action figure smell won't last forever.

(Might I recommend the MOUSE DROID that comes with POTJ R4M9?)

And if you're going to open all those figures at once, please do it right:

Find a very small room with poor ventilation (a bathroom will do in a pinch, but a closet is better). Go inside with a wet towel you've soaked in hot water, or heated a little with a microwave, so it's steaming (but not scalding - be careful). Then put the towel over your head like Darth Sidious' cloak and open your figures with your nose and the steam close to them. Sniff....aaaah.

This is only better experiences if you find REAL new figures - I mean the satisfaction of doing this with the Gotal, Dannik, and Myo would be so much more than an Episode 1 Battle Droid, but you get the idea. Really new figures smell like success with your collection.

Old figures lose their scent (but do not underestimate the power of the Mouse Droid!)

If you store new figures in little, air tight plastic baggies, you can preserve their smell longer.

If you really want to know what I mean (for those of you without new stuff to open) Stick your face into the bottom of the Boba Fett Unleashed's sarlaac. Aaaaah. Good smells.

Anyway, I'm all for being an opener - BUT DO IT RIGHT!


May the Mouse be with you.

Thank you. End of sermon.

Tycho is the Standing President of the Mouse Droid Sniffers' Association

Devo
12-01-2004, 02:59 PM
You're missing the WHOLE POINT!

If you're going to OPEN THEM, \

SNIFF THEM WHILE THEY'RE FRESH!

That brand new action figure smell won't last forever.

(Might I recommend the MOUSE DROID that comes with POTJ R4M9?)

And if you're going to open all those figures at once, please do it right:

Find a very small room with poor ventilation (a bathroom will do in a pinch, but a closet is better). Go inside with a wet towel you've soaked in hot water, or heated a little with a microwave, so it's steaming (but not scalding - be careful). Then put the towel over your head like Darth Sidious' cloak and open your figures with your nose and the steam close to them. Sniff....aaaah.

This is only better experiences if you find REAL new figures - I mean the satisfaction of doing this with the Gotal, Dannik, and Myo would be so much more than an Episode 1 Battle Droid, but you get the idea. Really new figures smell like success with your collection.

Old figures lose their scent (but do not underestimate the power of the Mouse Droid!)

If you store new figures in little, air tight plastic baggies, you can preserve their smell longer.

If you really want to know what I mean (for those of you without new stuff to open) Stick your face into the bottom of the Boba Fett Unleashed's sarlaac. Aaaaah. Good smells.

Anyway, I'm all for being an opener - BUT DO IT RIGHT!


May the Mouse be with you.

Thank you. End of sermon.

Tycho is the Standing President of the Mouse Droid Sniffers' Association


lol

Indeed, athough McFarlane figures I have to say are much better for NTS than Star Wars toys. My last McF acquisitions were Robocop, Hicks and the AvP predators - I was carrying them around with me everywhere to impregnate every room in the house with the smell. I remember the Rancor and Bantha though were really great for NTS in their time. That smell needs to be bottled. An odourant for figures.

bobafrett
12-01-2004, 04:36 PM
Well, I have purchased 7 of the $10 Stormtroopers. 1 remains carded, the other six are free to shoot down or capture my rebel figures. I always keep the 1st figure I buy carded, unless I come across the same figure, on a better card, then the second figure remains carded, and the 1st figure gets freed. But I have about 90% of my figures carded (though that # may not be all that acurate seeing as I have three friends who buy loose figures for birthdays and holidays). I just find leaving them carded, a whole lot easier to pack come moving day. My loose collection I wrap individually in baggies with the weapons, and that takes a long time to do with all the figures I own that are opened as it is. Add the 500+ that I have carded, and your talking major headache.

Mad Slanted Powers
12-01-2004, 08:54 PM
These new figures don't seem to have the smell I remember from the vintage figures I had as a kid. Maybe it was the vinyl capes. I don't know. I'm not sure if I like the smell of the new ones as much.

I opened a few more last night.

Saga Lando General and Lando Skiff - Both excellent improvements over the POTF2 sculpts, but after seeing some of the articulation on the newer figures, I was hoping for more articulation in these. Also, the cape on the general kind of made it difficult for me to put him on his stand. Now, that I have these open, no need to open the OTC versions.

General Dadonna - A nice figure. With three medals, you could finally give Chewbacca a medal, but I don't think it will fit. Also, he can't hold the gun he comes with. I gave it to the K-3PO figure I just opened.

K-3PO - A nice figure that stands well on its own. Also useful for holding Dadonna's gun.

Saga C-3PO Death Star Rescue - The one with the silver leg. A basic Threepio figure

Freeze Frame C-3PO with removable limbs - Oh what fun to tear the limbs off our favorite protocol droid!

FX-7 - one of the few post ANH vintage figures I had. This POTJ version is much better. More arms than the vintage one and the arms can bend as well.

Freeze Frame R2-D2 - No 3rd leg, and you can't put both extension arms in at the same time. One advantage over the VOTC R2 is that the sensor can pop up whenever you want, not just when his head is turned a certain way.

Rappertunie - Makes me think of the WB frog. I wonder if he gets up and dances around and plays his instrument when I'm not home.

Reek, Nexu and Acklay - The legs on that Acklay are difficult to work with. I pull the horn on the Reek and he growls. Then I set him down and a few seconds later he growls some more, and then a couple more growls. I think it's alive. Once I have all the appropriate AOTC figures open, I'll be able to set up this scene from the movie.

I think that's all I opened last night. If I open more, I'll let you know.

Val Da Car
12-01-2004, 09:42 PM
Press the tongue on the Nexu...

kewl sound

Mad Slanted Powers
12-01-2004, 10:01 PM
Press the tongue on the Nexu...

kewl sound

Cool. I hadn't noticed that, so I looked at the package again and it says "press tongue to unleash battle sounds and make jaw snap closed." So basically they're telling us to stick a finger in there so it can bite it off.

Ji'dai
12-01-2004, 10:17 PM
FX-7 - one of the few post ANH vintage figures I had. This POTJ version is much better. More arms than the vintage one and the arms can bend as well.
I think the POTJ FX-7 has the most articulation of any Star Wars figure made so far. I really like the way the droid was made to fit into the hole in the Luke Bacta tank. Add 2-1B and you've got the makings of a little Echo Base medical bay.

One advantage of opening as you buy the figures is that you still have the option of finding another at retail if you come across one that you really like (or need a replacement). I didn't open my 2 SA Clones and 2 Concept Stormtroopers until this summer. Now I wish I'd bought more of 'em when I saw them. My only option now is the secondary market where these figs are prohibitively expensive.

Mad Slanted Powers
12-01-2004, 10:39 PM
One advantage of opening as you buy the figures is that you still have the option of finding another at retail if you come across one that you really like (or need a replacement). I didn't open my 2 SA Clones and 2 Concept Stormtroopers until this summer. Now I wish I'd bought more of 'em when I saw them. My only option now is the secondary market where these figs are prohibitively expensive.

I never saw either of those. I think I got the Concept Stormtrooper from Kebco along with Bail Organa and Lars Homestead Padme for a decent price. I'd like to have another Concept Stormtrooper even if I open them both. Still don't have an SA clone.

Devo
12-02-2004, 12:53 PM
I never found Dodonna and he's sold out of my preferred online store. How come he isn't being rereleased as an OTC fig like Madine? (though I've seen nothing from the OTC since the dagobah and bespin waves, therefore no Madine, no scout trooper, no CT stormie :mad: )

If he pegwarmed as a Saga fig is there any likelihood that Dodonna will be put in a future 4 pack like the endor rebel soldier?

I love the new Lando Skiff but wasn't impressed by the head sculpt of Lando general - too long and the head seems to incline backwards as though he's looking up.

Kidhuman
12-02-2004, 01:20 PM
SHoot, DaDonna is pegwarming major league here by me.

Mad Slanted Powers
12-02-2004, 08:17 PM
There were lots of Dadonna's here as well.

Last night I opened a few more.

POTJ Han Solo Death Star Escape - Looks all right, but rather limited due to the pose.

Saga Han Solo Endor Strike (Han as AT-ST driver) - Cool! I can make Han Solo pick his nose. This figure demands an action feature!.

POTF2 FF Slave Leia - I also have the green card that I can keep carded, and I recently opened the POTJ deluxe version. I couldn't get her to stand on her own.

POTJ Leia General - Decent looking figure that stands well on her own. The extra big gun doesn't seem to fit in her left hand. It might fit in her right hand, but I didn't feel like undoing the plastic band that is wrapped around the other gun already in her right hand.

POTF2 A-Wing - Actually, I had already opened this one, but I forgot that I had also put the decals on. I hadn't freed the pilot though, so now he and the vehicle are free from the box forever.