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Bel-Cam Jos
12-20-2004, 12:02 PM
Finally, a good, no - GREAT - Star Wars book! I won't spoiler-ize in case people still haven't read/finished this one yet, but I cannot recall the last time a SW novel best captured a character, or faithfully made them seem more realistic. Yoda is awesome in this novel, Dooku is believable, and the other chars provide sympathy and interest. And, as many books are doing in this gotta-wait-until-ROTS-comes-out-so-we-can't-really-make-any-significant-plotlines, it might have effects to be felt later. I found myself thinking "ah... I can see where this might lead" at times, both in the upcoming film and potential future EU stories.

Rating? I give it a 9.1 out of 10. :)

mastermatt24
12-20-2004, 05:05 PM
Yes! Yes!! :D Great book! :D I was gonna start the thread for this book but I thought I would wait. Anyways.. For not having written in the SW universe (As far as I know??) I think he did a great job. I loved the comedy with Yoda and I thought that he was very believeable. He also gave a lot of insight towards the Jedi Temple that was very good. My only problem was with the "Ron deVoo" itself but I wont say why because of spoliers. Im glad I read this after reading Jedi Trial. Did anyone read Hard Contact?(Or did I miss that thread??) And is the Cestus Deception any good? Im like 50 pages in and im kinda eh. :neutral: :ermm: Ill still read it though.

dr_evazan22
12-22-2004, 01:25 PM
I agree with what you guys said about Yoda and Dooku. I even thought Assajj was written well. I thought the plotline was fairly predictable, seeing as its in the CW and ROTS is coming soon, but the characterization and depth given to the characters kept it interesting. Ani was only in it a short while, but a good job was done there also showing his carelessness and lack of forethought.

Does Dooku have any idea of how things will end for him? Why did he become Sith? The way he's been portrayed it doesn't seem like he's power-crazy (like Sidious). Does Sidious know that Dooku will not try to supplant him? Is that also why Ani / DV was chosen?

mastermatt24
12-22-2004, 01:45 PM
I guess we'll have to wait and see.. :D

Tycho
02-09-2005, 02:31 AM
So far I've advanced very interested in this book.

There's a lot of cool flashbacks to Dooku's early training in the Jedi Temple, and his own, present day indoctrination of Assaj Ventress in the ways of the Sith.

It is really well-written. I just learned of the old lady who likes body parts who comes in the back door with the fox that licks blood stains off the floor.
Creepy.

Vjun is a great setting. Darth Vader had a castle there in expanded universe lore - explored in Dark Horse Comics' Dark Empire series, and Kevin J. Anderson's Jedi Academy Trilogy as well I believe. (Wasn't that where Vader kept a medical stasis coffin like thing he could sleep in with his armor off and inside Luke found a picture of himself that his father was keeping - as like hope that his son would join him?)

Interesting that Darth Tyrannus adapted Vjun for a fortress before Darth Vader did. I'm still curious if this is "like father, like son stuff" if a relationship between Anakin and Dooku is still a big carefully guarded secret that people at LF aren't leaking until the movie premiers.

Anyway, I've barely started Dark Rendezvous, but so far, this is an excellent read!

dr_evazan22
02-09-2005, 06:09 AM
Interesting that Darth Tyrannus adapted Vjun for a fortress before Darth Vader did. I'm still curious if this is "like father, like son stuff" if a relationship between Anakin and Dooku is still a big carefully guarded secret that people at LF aren't leaking until the movie premiers.

Anyway, I've barely started Dark Rendezvous, but so far, this is an excellent read!

You are right about it being an excellent book. In the quote above, I hope that is speculation and not a spoiler.

I have more comments, but they are better suited to the other thread ou started.

Tycho
02-09-2005, 11:42 AM
Yes, as far as Dooku being Anakin's dad? That's totally speculation on my part and everyone in the world is telling me I'm wrong - so then I think I have to be right. However, that is the way I'd write the story if I were Lucas: have Anakin kill his dad before he knew the truth, and then hold that against the Jedi (that they didn't tell him) as well as all the rest of the stuff that's been building up inside of him.

But yeah, Dark Rendezvous is a great book getting overshadowed by James Luceno's Labrynth of Evil because it's the new hot hardback that sets up Episode Three. However, I hope folks won't miss Yoda's book. It is so good thus far!

OC47150
02-16-2005, 12:44 PM
I didn't know this one was being released until I saw the cover in a bookstore at Christmas. I've bought it but haven't cracked it yet.

Tycho
02-16-2005, 01:12 PM
There's been some cute comedy with Yoda, sort of reminiscient of E.T.

There's been a lot more detail into the mind of Asajj Ventress and for that I'm thankful.

The new Jedi the author introduces get to be very cool. I also like the insight into Temple Training, and how the Clone Wars has changed it some, not to mention the author's great knowledge of the Lost Jedi and those that later refused to return and serve as Generals. References are accurate down to Dark Horse Comics' characters.

One error that I seem to have found (if I'm not mistaken) is that in their small scenes, (the book focuses on Yoda) Anakin is no longer Obi-Wan's padawan, but his partner in the CW, a full-fledged Jedi Knight of his own.

So far, I'm almost through with this book and I'm very glad I'm reading it.

Bel-Cam Jos
02-16-2005, 06:29 PM
There's been some cute comedy with Yoda, sort of reminiscient of E.T.

There's been a lot more detail into the mind of Asajj Ventress and for that I'm thankful.

One error that I seem to have found (if I'm not mistaken) is that in their small scenes, (the book focuses on Yoda) Anakin is no longer Obi-Wan's padawan, but his partner in the CW, a full-fledged Jedi Knight of his own.

So far, I'm almost through with this book and I'm very glad I'm reading it.
I hadn't considered the ET angle; it fits!

I always like the internal details that authors provide into the minds and motivations of characters (especially those who haven't made appearances in the films).

No, Anakin is a Jedi Knight by the time in Y: DR (it occurs in/after the awful Jedi Trial novel).

I'm glad you're glad! :)

Tycho
02-16-2005, 07:21 PM
I meant that in Dark Rendezvous, Obi-Wan calls Anakin "padawan" even though he's already a knight.

Maybe a mistake that the auther didn't catch.

It doesn't make the book any less great though. That could have been a mistake "Obi-Wan didn't catch" instead.

InsaneJediGirl
02-28-2005, 12:38 PM
I'm 99 pages in,fairly good so far.

As to Obi-Wan calling Anakin,most likey a term of endearment or simply old habits are hard to break.

Darth Jax
02-28-2005, 11:52 PM
don't they talk about how old habits are hard to break and obi lets slip a padawan and ani a master occasionally. or that might have been in labyrinth of evil.

InsaneJediGirl
03-01-2005, 08:35 PM
I believe it was mentioned in both books.More so in this book but LOE had more of a general passing about the Master/Padawan thing.

InsaneJediGirl
03-03-2005, 08:02 PM
Finished the book.Quite awesome,one of the best SW books I have read in a long time.Its good to see a book to look inside the Temple and at Yoda.Shame they didnt come out with more Clone Wars books,better by far than NJO.

OC47150
03-07-2005, 08:31 AM
Started it this weekend, on page 152 as of this morning. Very good so far.

I find the daily workings of the Jedi Temple interesting. I also think it's interesting that there are Jedi who failed/washed out sent to other areas to work. That's something that hasn't been mentioned before, at least that I remember.

Tycho
03-07-2005, 02:26 PM
The daily workings of the Jedi Temple were fleshed out for the EU in the Jedi Apprentice Series (young Obi-Wan) and added to in the Jedi Quest series (young Anakin). Thesea are really great reads if you get a chance to delve into them. (Children's section at Barnes & Nobel).

They are quite often better than the adult books, faster reads, but develop more plot.

Yoda Dark Rendezvous and Labrynth of Evil easily compete though. However, not all SW adult books are so good. The Scholastic Ones have all kicked butt. They should be read in order though!

OC47150
03-07-2005, 02:36 PM
I enjoy the Scholastic books. I've read 2 or 3 in the Boba Fett series.

OC47150
03-09-2005, 06:56 AM
On page 240-something. Very good so far. Nice fast read. Should have it done by the weekend.

There are a couple of CW battles mentioned in the book. Are these battles discussed in more detail in some of the other books? I'm just curious.

Tycho
03-09-2005, 12:07 PM
Yes, the Clone Wars continuity is very tight and references are made to other books, video games, as well as the Cartoon Network tv show.

They did a great job!

Since Dark Rendezvous is also a lot about Dooku, they reference many of the battles he was actually there for.

OC47150
03-09-2005, 02:02 PM
I'll have to do some research when I get some free time.

dr_evazan22
03-09-2005, 05:56 PM
Some of teh other battles mentioned are form DH comics.

OC47150
03-10-2005, 06:59 AM
Some of teh other battles mentioned are form DH comics.


Thanks! I'm behind on my comics. Don't get to the shop as nearly as much as I used to.

OC47150
03-11-2005, 09:07 AM
Finished it this morning. Almost made me late for work. :D

Very good. One of the better written SW books I've read.