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xavier311_max
05-01-2005, 07:44 PM
Okay I am uber new to this forum so 1st of all I would like to say hello to everyone!

My name is Xavier (yes real name) and I have been an OG Star Wars fan ever since I plucked down my allowance for C3PO back in 1977 as a seven-year-old boy. 14 thousand dollars later I am still going hard at it.



Okay enough about me I wanted to throw out a question to all of you. What are the odds of us ever seeing a 3- scale AT-TE? If you ask me this would be one of the all time coolest Star Wars toys of all time. It would rank right up there with EP Vs AT-AT. I make no secret that I am a huge walker fan and it kills me that Hasbro has totally ignored the AT-TE. Okay they did throw us a bone with the AT-TE driver but come on now! That is such a tease that border lines on being cruel! I will give them this, they did try to give us larger vehicles back with EP 1 but as I feared with the Queens ship not being an over the top hit (remember how many where left to gather dust on the shelved?) I had a BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS sort of vision about what the next two movies would bring us or in this case NOT bring us. I am still not with out hope that one day I will see the AT-TE in all is large glory it would matter little to me as to how that manifests itself (exclusive or mass produced) What do you think?



PS I found this great site with a custom AT-TE check out how cool this thing can be! Too bad I can not read a word thats on this site....

http://www.4-inches.de/inhalt/customs.htm

Val Da Car
05-01-2005, 08:32 PM
another site had a recent rumor list and Hasbro might be judging sales of the ARC 170 & Gunship to determine if the AT TE might be a good (albeit) expensinve item...

hasbro toy store exclusive item in the future?

btw Welcome to the forums!

Scackmgack
05-01-2005, 08:43 PM
Didn't we pretty much eliminate the possibility of getting an AT-TE in another thread?

Slicker
05-02-2005, 01:54 AM
Didn't we pretty much eliminate the possibility of getting an AT-TE in another thread?It's been eliminated several times by people but if you read the Hasbro Q&A from CIII they give some hope for those that want one. I can't find the Q&A right now but it's in another one of my posts.

terman123
05-02-2005, 02:04 AM
Hey guys,


I thinks the AT-TE would be excellent, so would Twin Pod Cloud Car, hopefull we may see one, I won't keep my fingers cross. I think the best chance would be if the main retailers(TRU, Target and Wal-Mart) all got together and requested it. I really don't see that happening though since they seem to want to compete with each other. I think it could sell well even at $50-60. And in the end the retailers would make money. Just once it would be nice to see the retailers join together for the fans and customers.

Just my two cents since that's all I have thanks to 4/2,
Terman123

WesleySr
05-02-2005, 02:13 AM
I think with Hasbro opening a direct store, we have a better chance of getting several vehicles that we have been begging for. I would be more than willing to pay some in advance to Hasbro, if it meant getting a Cloud Car, AT-TE, Sith Infiltrator, etc.

kool-aid killer
05-02-2005, 02:53 PM
An "OG Star Wars fan?" Welcome to the forums, but please cut back on the amount of BET you watch because im sure there isnt much street credibilty in calling yourself that. :D I would love to see an AT-TE but i dont know whether we fans would be able to support it. I think too many of us would wait for the thing to hit clearance, thus hurting our chances of seeing other big vehicles come out and putting a black eye on Star Wars vehicles in general.

dindae
05-02-2005, 03:57 PM
I disagree KAK. I think the support is there for this vehicle. I think it is different enough conceptually that it would be something everyone would like much like the ARC-170 is now. Now the size will price it much higher then the ARC-170 so it won't move as well. The main reason hasn't done one is because they didn't know if it would have much screen time. That is a big factor to them. When they were at CIII they said they would like to make this and the Cloud Car but needed to match up the timing. What they meant by that was they have to find a time when they aren't doing another big vehicle (in the case of the AT-TE) and be sure they can lockdown a retailer. I don't think they want to have another Sandcrawler situation on their hands (having a sculpt done and no store to sell it). As far as the Cloud Car goes since this year is devoted to Revenge of the Sith you can count this year out but they know we want it. I can't imagine it would be hard to sell to retailers since I would imagine the price point would be $20-$29. The other thing they mentioned was when doing midsize vehicles they look at what is going to be in the same case since retailer use the same SKU they want them to be equal value. While this was more of a reason to explain why they don't do more electronics it is something they think about.

beckmen
05-02-2005, 07:02 PM
For those of you wanting to read that customs page (which rules, nice find X) go to www.altavista.com/tr and use their free translation service. It's not perfect, but you'll get the jist of what the text is...

xavier311_max
05-02-2005, 11:33 PM
Thanks everyone for your welcome! KAK when you say support do you mean that most fans cannot afford an AT-TE when and if its ever produced? I disagree with that because the lions share of collectors like myself would shell out good money for a well-done AT-TE. And if you are going to wait for the thing to hit clearance, then you might find yourself in the same boat as the people who waited for the B-Wing, Y-Wing & FAO Imperial Shuttle to hit the clearance shelve, whom last I checked are still waiting. I agree with dindae and think that given the right timing we may yet still see this toy come our way.



Oh and fyi the last time I checked the term OG brought you street credibility only if you happen to be stuck in an 80s time warp. I posted that only to introduce myself as a child of the 70s who loves his Star Wars toys as much as you all.

kool-aid killer
05-03-2005, 12:30 AM
I dont doubt that almost all collectors have the cash to pick up vehicles, i just wonder how many would do it immediately or wait in hopes that it would go down in price. By waiting and letting them collect dust in hopes of saving a couple of dollars we hinder the possibilities of more coming out to some extent. It could be as simple as a company being reluctant to take the next ship offered to one that flat out refuses to do so. Obviously by waiting collectors risk the chance of never obtaining what they want, but thats something they must consider if they choose to wait. Correct me if i am wrong, but didnt the Imperial Shuttle get its price cut a couple of times? Thats hardly a ringing endorsement for how popular it was among collectors. I agree with Dindae and yourself when you say that timing is important, maybe in a year or two we will see this, but until i hear something solid im not going to be getting my hopes up.

P.S. The term "OG" is still used in modern day hip hop, if you would like to discuss it further i have a hip-hop/r&B thread in the "music" section.

WesleySr
05-03-2005, 01:42 AM
And if you are going to wait for the thing to hit clearance, then you might find yourself in the same boat as the people who waited for the B-Wing, Y-Wing & FAO Imperial Shuttle to hit the clearance shelve, whom last I checked are still waiting.

Heck, I just wish I would have had a chance to purchase the B-Wing / Y-Wing for retail price.

dindae
05-03-2005, 08:13 AM
Xavier really hit the nail on the head saying that it depends on how well it is done. I remember people getting real excited about the Sandcrawler and then when they saw that it was just a reissue of the vintage one with the electronics stripped out a lot of people passed. Then when they saw the price tag a lot more passed. I don't think this will happen with the AT-TE because there is no previous mold to retool for cheap. If they do it right it will definately be a $60+ item.

abell748
05-03-2005, 08:44 AM
I would hope that this has a better chance of selling for a few reasons. First, this is not a rehash like the sandcrawler, Falcon, AT-AT were. Second, this is not a big boring no gun ship like the Queen's starship was. Third, this vehicle kicks serious a**!!!! It is new and most anything used by the clone army is in demand. I would buy a couple, one to keep sealed and one for my kids and myself to play with. Bring it on Hasbro!!!!!!!

aceguide
05-03-2005, 09:53 AM
Frankly I do not see why this would be such a huge deal to produce and sell. My family had 2 At At's in the 80's (one for each brother) and that scale was perfectly acceptable. An At Te would not seem to be much larger - and I would guess that the demand is there too.

The Queens Cruiser is not a good comparison to a true battle piece like an At Te. That vehicle appealed to collectors more than parents buying for their kids (let's face it - VERY few kids have $50 for one vehicle). And the appeal to collectors was limited at best.

On the flip side look at the OTC Falcon. It seemed to move pretty well off the shelves in my area. As a collector and parent my 8 year old did score big with one at our house. I only saw a very few that were discounted - and it was not a huge dicount.

dindae
05-03-2005, 10:17 AM
The reason they don't compare it to the falcon is because for 3 movies the heroes ran around in the falcon not to mention all the books, video games, etc. The AT-TE was on screen for less then a minute in AOTC and none of the major character drove/rode in one. If I were to compare it to anything I would say the Fambaa would be the closest thing in screen time and function. The sad part was the Fambaa was way too much for what you got. It looked good but they should have at least made the legs articulated. So that probably isn't far either but at least you know it would sell better then that.

Devo
05-03-2005, 11:32 AM
I agree with what many people are saying here.

Waiting for vehicles to go on clearance could be a discouragement for Hasbro to make them....yet Hasbro's direct store plans might lead to the reverse i.e previously unlikely (because of lack of store interest which is in turn because of lack of kiddie interest/purchasing power) items being made for collectors.

As to the AT-TE on the one hand I agree that clone-related/war vehicles have thusfar been popular with both collectors and kids so this should bode well for the AT-TE whereas other vehicles such as the Naboo royal starship went mainly to collectors. But on the other hand the AT-TE did not feature very prominently at all in AOTC (though it remains to be seen if it will have a role in ROTS) unlike the AT-AT in Empire strikes back. Therefore many kids may see it on the shelf and wonder when it was ever in a Star wars film - many are not that observant and will have failed to remember it.

I think what would help the AT-TE would be, obviously, that it wound up being good, fitting multiple figures and having many features - if not electronic features then merely manual walking/posing of the legs and some nice detailed interiors would suit me at least.

The packaging, for a heavy vehicle such as this would need to be solid, I imagine, perhaps having a small window and it should clearly demonstrate to kids that it can fit a number of figures in pilot/gunner/passenger positions by way of nice images along the borders of the box front - in addition to the main 'fantasy situation' image. If these are left to the back of the box chances are they'll be missed because a kid will find it awkward taking the box off the shelf to have a look or as soon as they make a move to do this an unwilling parent will immediatly say 'no'. As a child I was always attracted by large GI-Joe vehicles and the idea that many figures could fit inside was of great appeal to me. I reckon all kids feel that way, their parents willingness to buy for them being the only uncertain thing here.

Its a bit of a tight-rope for Hasbro with this vehicle. If they make it too big and too heavily featured the expense of it will limit its kiddie audience. Make it too small and too plain and collectors will view it as a missed opportunity, some will do without, some will make their own, some will wait for a price reduction etc and its best hope will be completists.

WesleySr
05-03-2005, 01:42 PM
Well, I for one, would be happy to see HasbroToyShop.com start carrying the exclusive vehicles. I am sick of never finding the vehicles @ retail. Look at the current list of exclusive vehicles:

TARGET:
A-Wing Fighter (Green)
B-wing Fighter (w/ Sullustan Pilot)
Slave I (OTC)
Tatooine Skiff
Y-wing Fighter (POTF2)

TOYS R US:
Anakin Skywalker's Jedi Starfighter
Imperial AT-ST & Speeder Bike (w/ Paploo ewok)
Landspeeder (w/ Luke Skywalker)
Luke Skywalker's X-Wing Fighter
Red Leader's X-Wing Fighter
TIE Interceptor (w/ Imperial Pilot)
Y-wing Fighter (OTC)

WAL-MART:
Luke Skywalker's Snowspeeder (w/ Luke & Dack Ralter)
TIE Bomber (w/ Imperial Pilot) (POTJ)
TIE Bomber (w/ Imperial Pilot) (Saga)

KB TOYS:
Obi-Wan Kenobi's Jedi Starfighter
TIE Fighter (w/ Imperial Pilot)

OTHER:
Fambaa (FAO Schwarz)
Imperial Shuttle
Sandcrawler (Diamonds)

Tell me if I missed any.

Target - With the exception of the A-Wing and Slave I, all of their exclusives were brand new. Both of the re-packs had not been available since before 1999 and were probably a good idea because of giving newer collectors & kids a chance to obtain these older vehicles.

Toys 'R Us - The AT-ST has not been available since before 1999, along with the Landspeeder and the Y-Wing. Those of us who have been collecting since 1995 (or earlier) did not mind the chance to get a new AT-ST or Y-Wing, but I imagine several passed on the Landspeeder. The TIE Interceptor was a new release, and both of the X-Wing's were good opportunities to army build and obtain the Red Leader figure. I also was fond of all of the accessories that came with Luke's X-Wing.

Wal-Mart - The TIE Bomber was a new release and when they re-released it in the Saga line, it gave those of us who missed it the first time around to get it. The Snowspeeder had not been around since before 1999 and was a good opportunity for newer collectors and kids to obtain this vehicle. It was also the only opportunity to obtain Dack Ralter.

Kay Bee Toys - Obi-Wan Kenobi's Starfighter (w/ Obi-Wan Pilot) was a bad idea considering the vehicle was still available as a non-exclusive. Even though for an additional $2 you got the pilot, the non-exclusive version had probably already been purchased by most of the kids. The TIE Fighter had not been available since before 1999, but at $30 was kinda steep for something that was $20 in 1999 and got re-released again in the OTC line for $20. So basically, you were paying $10 for an exclusive pilot. (And by the way, my KB still has these.)

Others - All 3 were released at a ridiculously high price point. I think that these 3 were probably the worst for money/value.

Devo
05-03-2005, 07:16 PM
I didn't get why the TIE bomber was released twice in so short a time. I managed to miss both versions. Had they been spaced apart a few years my collection might not now be blighted by a missing OT vehicle. Attempts to acquire it online have failed. I ordered the POTJ version from R2toys along with a number of figures, received the figures and not the vehicle for some reason. And they didn't respond to my inquiry on this. The thing is still listed as 'in stock' 2 months later.

aceguide
05-04-2005, 07:39 AM
WesleySr - Selling exclusive vehicles through Hasbro.com is a fantastic idea. I would certainly pick up several that I am missing from your list: Y-wing, b-wing, tie bomber, AT ST.

I am torn on how Hasbro.com might work for us. On the one hand they might see what the real demand for some of these toys is. On the other, with their pricing, they might already be experiencing some of that peg warming glow with the early ROTS figs.

General_Grievous
02-23-2008, 04:35 PM
I'd say the odds are slim to none that we'll ever see an AT-TE. Hasbro's more likely to repackage the Cruisemissile Trooper.