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scruffziller
08-27-2002, 04:32 AM
Here is some art that I did back in highschool.

Also check out SW collection.scruffziller SW collection (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10154&perpage=15&pagenumber=1)

This is one of the tributes to the group THE KLF.

scruffziller
08-27-2002, 04:33 AM
Another of THE KLF.

scruffziller
08-27-2002, 04:34 AM
One of BOYZ II MEN.

THE Slayer
05-13-2005, 11:49 PM
I thought that there was once a place for this sort of thing. But until I can be directed otherwise I guess I can post it here.

My Art.

plasticfetish
05-14-2005, 02:02 AM
Nice drawing!

Hmmm... there was a section in the photo gallery/Database for art. I'm not sure what Steve did with it. (I'll have to ask.)

Good idea to have a thread for this anyway. :)

Kidhuman
05-14-2005, 07:46 AM
Very nice Slayer.

THE Slayer
05-14-2005, 07:13 PM
Thanks Guys. Feel free to post some of your own stuff if you want.

Rebo's_Guitarist
05-14-2005, 07:45 PM
Star wars art or any art?

plasticfetish
05-15-2005, 12:22 AM
Anything's a go if you want I suppose.

There was a section in the photo gallery for art, but it wasn't really being used, so... I suppose this is as good a place as any. (You can also post images in your "collection" section in the photo gallery.)

Tonysmo
05-15-2005, 02:41 AM
very cool work dude :cool:

THE Slayer
05-15-2005, 11:56 AM
If you want to post other art thats cool too.

Here is a link for some of mine, but I only have a few things there now.

http://illicitjedi.deviantart.com/

JetsAndHeels
05-15-2005, 02:19 PM
Slayer, your art work is very impressive. I actually thought I was looking at some of the production sketches used by LucasFilm!! lol

darthvyn
05-15-2005, 02:31 PM
i started a thread with this piece i did in college...

http://vynsane.com/endor.html

i don't know where that thread went, but whatever...

megaprime33
05-16-2005, 01:57 PM
If I could actually draw and have a scanner I would post my work....hell if I had a scanner I would post whatever I could draw just for fun. Great work by all who posted pictures!

THE Slayer
05-16-2005, 05:39 PM
Darthvyn, the ewok is awesome. I've never had much luck with oils. But then again Ive never really tried. :)

Jango-Thank you. Not my best work, But i do love Shaak Ti.

Slicker
05-16-2005, 06:21 PM
I'm not an artist but I was the "inspiration" for a piece drawn by our very own Rocketboy. I think it's entitled "This Guy".

darthvyn
05-16-2005, 06:27 PM
Darthvyn, the ewok is awesome. I've never had much luck with oils. But then again Ive never really tried. :)

thanks, yeah i took screenshots from the movie for those... and you SHOULD try oils... they're awesome. you have so much freedom in the fact that they don't dry so fast. you can push the paint all over the place. and if something doesn't work, you can just wipe it off!

Rocketboy
05-22-2005, 12:59 AM
I'm not an artist but I was the "inspiration" for a piece drawn by our very own Rocketboy. I think it's entitled "This Guy".Actually, it's called "This Guy!" (Exclaimation point!). :D

I can post some more of my stuff tomorrow.


and you SHOULD try oils... they're awesome. you have so much freedom in the fact that they don't dry so fast. you can push the paint all over the place. and if something doesn't work, you can just wipe it off!I'm a straight up acrylic man myself. I am waaaaay too impatient and accident prone for oils.

mastermatt24
11-13-2005, 10:44 PM
Alright guys.. Ive been wanting to kick off this thread for awhile, and steve said to stick it here, so here it is. :D
I was hoping to have my Mustafar Battle scene done for this (http://photobucket.com/albums/b250/mastermatt24/Art/?action=view&current=100_9731.jpg) but I thought now is as good of time as ever. I felt like doin something different tonight, so instead of running I got my oil pastels out and started messin around, and here's what came of it:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b250/mastermatt24/Art/?action=view&current=100_9784.jpg

So, if you have any art please share it with us here! :D

Lord Malakite
11-13-2005, 11:23 PM
What kind of art are you looking for? Done on PC or by hand? Star Wars Themed or not? I'm pretty good at drawing, particularily when it comes to cartoon figures; they are practically dead on with the official drawings. I can also do some realistic drawing; it isn't quite as good as a professional, but compared to the average everyday person it isn't bad.

Then you have my PC icons all drawn with nothing more than MS Paint; which almost anyone who has talked to me on AIM can tell you are quite good.:thumbsup:

mastermatt24
11-13-2005, 11:35 PM
Please share it all! (that goes for everyone too!) :yes:

darthvyn
11-14-2005, 09:09 AM
watch for merging threads

http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=28277&highlight=art

mastermatt24
11-14-2005, 10:53 PM
Sorry... never saw that thread (and it was like 6 months ago).
Any mods care to merge them plz? :)

scruffziller
11-15-2005, 03:03 PM
Better put this to the top so they can merge mine as well.

mastermatt24
11-17-2005, 12:23 AM
Thanks to whoever merged the threads.. All we need is some art! :p

bobafrett
11-17-2005, 02:20 PM
Here is a snow sculpture of a Tauntaun I made many years ago when I was in my youth. It won 10th place in the Star Wars fan club creativity contest. That is me, bobafrett, riding atop my trusty (frozen) steed.

Slicker
11-17-2005, 02:22 PM
Words cannot explain how f-ing awesome that is Frett!!!

CaptainSolo1138
11-18-2005, 09:12 AM
Words cannot explain how f-ing awesome that is Frett!!!
Totally! That thing is sweet!

darthvyn
11-18-2005, 11:17 AM
three out of three bearded teeth agree, that taun taun is the bees knees...

mastermatt24
11-19-2005, 03:40 PM
Thats great! Did you put anything in it for more support?

Rocketboy
11-19-2005, 10:00 PM
Thats great! Did you put anything in it for more support?My guess would be a half frozen Jedi.

bobafrett
11-21-2005, 06:30 PM
Thats great! Did you put anything in it for more support?

Nope, just added some water before bedtime, and by morning, frozen Tauntaun!

mastermatt24
11-21-2005, 10:14 PM
thats neat- to bad I cant ever get any snow :sad:

bobafrett
11-22-2005, 06:16 PM
BTW, thanks for the compliments! Hard to believe that was over 20 years ago.

Dar' Argol
11-24-2005, 01:42 AM
Well, recently I purchased a Wacom Graphite 4 Tablet to help with some graphic work I do as a hobby. So in order to get used to using a pen on my computer as opposed to a mouse, I've been doing a LOT of playing around. Here's some of the recent stuff:

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/8486/maulcell3op.gif

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8172/clonecell010kq.gif

And then place in the movie:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7346/maulwacom015jt.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3308/clonewacom018er.jpg

Attached is a few things I scaned a while ago. Some Comic book styling I was working with.

mastermatt24
11-24-2005, 02:20 PM
Looks great! Only thing I would change is on the clone- I would make all the lines a lot straighter, it looks good, but unfinished to me. :)

Dar' Argol
11-24-2005, 10:07 PM
Looks great! Only thing I would change is on the clone- I would make all the lines a lot straighter, it looks good, but unfinished to me. :)

Yeah, that was the first time I used the tablet . . so I wasn't quite use to it yet, but I am improving. Pretty soon it will be as natural as using a mouse.

mastermatt24
12-15-2005, 01:15 AM
Even though its not SW:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b250/mastermatt24/Art/?action=view&current=MayanLandscape3.jpg
and heres the rest:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b250/mastermatt24/Art/?

plasticfetish
12-15-2005, 01:37 AM
Nice stuff mastermatt24... you're use of color is great, and you've a really good feel for composition.

What grade are you in again, and what kind of stuff (art stuff) do they have you doing in school?

Rocketboy
12-15-2005, 09:46 AM
Agreed - that is damn good stuff yet again. Keep it up.
I wish I was that good in high school (even half as good).

And you make me feel like a slacker - I haven't done anything in weeks.

This thread also reminds me that I need to get some decent pics of my stuff and put it online. The last pics I took were a little blurry and they weren't in the best of light.

mastermatt24
12-18-2005, 07:52 PM
Nice stuff mastermatt24... you're use of color is great, and you've a really good feel for composition.

THanks!

What grade are you in again, and what kind of stuff (art stuff) do they have you doing in school?
Im a Junior (11th). Im not in art this year but will be back next year, as for classes they have: drawing/painting (basic) special studies drawing painting (advanced, 2nd year), 3D art, heritage art (they just do different projects), and they have graphics (which is more of stuff like screen printing, which I already know how to do and wouldnt take again).


Agreed - that is damn good stuff yet again. Keep it up.
I wish I was that good in high school (even half as good).
Thanks man :)


And you make me feel like a slacker - I haven't done anything in weeks.
Hey- its ok. I havent had time at all to do much of what ive wanted. I did the landscape over a couple weekend, in about 5 sittings.


This thread also reminds me that I need to get some decent pics of my stuff and put it online. The last pics I took were a little blurry and they weren't in the best of light.
Do it! I would love to see em! :D

scruffziller
12-18-2005, 08:07 PM
Yea mastermatt, those paintings are AWESOME. Voyager Returns is ultra cool.:thumbsup:

Have you been able to sell any of them for alot of money?

mastermatt24
12-18-2005, 08:30 PM
Thanks man! :D
Ive had offers from some of my peers about buying them but I dont know if they were just kidding or not, and Ive had an offer about a comission from a guy on RS, but he never got back to me about finalizing it... :neutral:
Are you hinting at something? ;)

jedi master sal
12-21-2005, 09:56 AM
I wish I had time for traditional art, but alas I don't, but I do work with Photoshop all day, so I've got a bit to show from that if allowed.

mastermatt24
12-21-2005, 11:44 AM
Go ahead!!! :D

scruffziller
12-21-2005, 12:23 PM
Are you hinting at something? ;)

Yes......:yes:

But, I cannot pay what its worth.:(
I wonder if you could sell those on ebay. I just might take up art again.:lipsrseal
I am of a mind of art that it must come from the heart 100%. No tainting of your technique with outside training or developing. So if you have no inspiration to create a piece of art, don't do it. Or try to. Because it won't be pure. So that is why I haven't done any visual art in 10 years.

mastermatt24
12-21-2005, 06:26 PM
Yes......:yes:

But, I cannot pay what its worth.:(

Hey, im very flexible. PM me. :)

Rebo's_Guitarist
12-21-2005, 07:47 PM
Heres some of mine from a while ago -

the first one was the last drawing Iv done, probably 2 years ago

the second is one of my favorites, the lyrics to Mudvaynes "Death Blooms" make up the entire flower, all twisty and turny.........no one can ever understand it, but whatever.........

the last one I had to do a homage piece with my own twist, the Gibson SG was my twist

mastermatt24
12-21-2005, 07:52 PM
Nice- I can totaly tell how long the middle one took.. They all look great. Only thing I would add would be to the last one- possibly some smaller dark dark areas, just to add more contrast (great concept by the way).
:thumbsup:

Rebo's_Guitarist
12-21-2005, 07:54 PM
Yeah, I think I did that one in chemistry with a regular #2....hahahaha

mastermatt24
12-21-2005, 08:05 PM
lol I never had time to draw in chem. I still dont have time to draw in classes. :cross-eye

Rocketboy
12-21-2005, 08:42 PM
And I'm usually too busy drawing in class to pay attention. :D

Sith Lord 0498
12-29-2005, 12:18 PM
Here's a batch of my most recent drawings (last year actually...haven't felt like doing much drawing since then). I drew all of them looking at an original copy of image. They weren't traced...just copied as if they were modeling the image. The Vader picture is actually the back of my Saga figure with a customized paint deco on the head.

mastermatt24
12-29-2005, 05:15 PM
Nice job! I was never able to get the hang of drawing the animated guys, and you were able to capture them perfectly. :)

darthvyn
08-07-2007, 12:10 PM
wanted to dredge this one up to announce that i'd started a daily art blog, so check it out... daily, even!

http://dailyscribble.vynsane.com

there will probably be some star wars stuff on there sometime soon.

mastermatt24
08-11-2007, 04:51 AM
Got some great stuff there..
Ironic becuause I just started painting again (Keria Knightley this time :D )

Rocketboy
08-11-2007, 09:59 AM
Really? And how did you manage that? I figure she'd be busy making movies and stuff.
;)

Tycho
08-11-2007, 10:53 AM
Nice Shaak-Ti, Slayer! That was really good. It reminds me of the best of the Dark Horse comics inks. Seriously.

Cool TaunTaun, BobaFrett! (the pun really applies, but that was by accident - you know, because it's made out of snow...) But it's a nice sculpting job!

SithLord, your stuff is wonderful. I really like that back-of-the-head shot of Vader though!

Darthvyn: Spider-Man and The Punisher! Alright! I like the sense of motion in the latter one.

MasterMatt is really gifted - and I love that he's doing Kierra Knightley ;)

bigbarada
08-11-2007, 10:27 PM
I started out as a traditional artist, but have recently been drawing stuff, scanning it into the computer and recreating it using Adobe Illustrator.

Attached is a drawing of my comic book character, Stump, made in this style. He's intended to be an old-fashioned Flash Gordon type superhero, only 5'6" tall.:D

I do have some Star Wars drawing that I have made but I need to scan them in at some point.

Tycho
08-12-2007, 02:32 AM
He's kind of "cute," BigB. Like a huggable dad-type. I like him.

TeeEye7
08-12-2007, 11:13 AM
Lot of great talent here. Thanks for sharing.

I'm envious....all I can draw is flies :( !

bigbarada
08-12-2007, 08:09 PM
He's kind of "cute," BigB. Like a huggable dad-type. I like him.

Thanks! Here's another drawing of him in the same style, it was just too big to attach:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/Barada73/Spaceman.jpg

El Chuxter
08-12-2007, 08:14 PM
You did that in Illustrator?

Color me VERY impressed.

bigbarada
08-12-2007, 08:48 PM
Thank you. It was actually drawn out on paper first, then I scanned that into the computer and redrew it using the pencil tool. I draw with a very sketchy style and usually end up overlapping 10-20 lines on top of each other throughout the drawing. So in the computer I can treat the lines like elongated shapes, not a typical outline. So the entire drawing ends up being made up of nothing but filled shapes in Illustrator. It's very time consuming and requires a lot of patience and mouse control, but I think it creates a more interesting look than just using straight, perfect computer lines.

El Chuxter
08-12-2007, 08:57 PM
So not even using the (pretty lacking) Autotrace function. That makes it even more impressive. Really nice job on the coloring, too--was that Illustrator as well, or did you jump over to PhotoShop?

bigbarada
08-12-2007, 10:03 PM
It's 100% Illustrator. The coloring effect is just layer upon layer of filled shapes. Some using gradients, but no gradient meshes (I never got the hang of those things). Each color is in it's own separate layer, so you have the primary red for the suit, the red shadows and the red highlights in three separate layers stacked on top of each other (with primary red being at the bottom, shadows in the middle, highlights on top).

The blue portions of his costume take up four layers, since there are three different shades of blue and then the white "shiny" highlights.

The black outline-shapes are in their own layer on top of everything and I just draw under them to create all the colors.

It gives me a ton of control, but I always end up with 20-50 layers for every drawing I do this way.

LTBasker
08-12-2007, 10:27 PM
Unfortunately I am horrid when it comes to hand-drawn art, though I often use it for concept work to create custom Star Trek phaser and ship designs. To fully create them, I use MSPaint and Photoshop.

TCP-SCN07 Phaser Carbine-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/CarbineMain.jpg
Diagram View-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/CarbineDiagram.jpg

TCP-SCN07 Phaser as a Pistol-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TCPMain.jpg

TAP-SCN12 Phaser (variant of the SCN07)-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TAPMain.jpg

"Sly Fox" Class Runabout-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/RegularSlyFoxFinal.jpg

With personnel pod-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/ExtraPodsFinal.jpg

With tactical pod-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TacticalVersionFinal.jpg

"Foxstrike" Class Fighter (final design in this form)-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/FoxstrikeClass2.jpg

New version of the Foxstrike in progress-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/FoxStrikeNew.jpg

Rocketboy
08-12-2007, 10:52 PM
bigbarada, great, clean, professional looking work there man! Good job!

LTBasker, are those created primarily in MSPaint? If so, damn, good stuff.
Before getting Photoshop, I did a lot of stuff in MSPaint and it was a frustrating, time consuming pain in the butt.


I don't have a decent pic of it, but below is a thumbnail I made of a painting I did a few years ago. Actually, I made this small MSPaint image first and then turned it into a painting. This image is 50 pixels x 50 pixels and the final painting is 24" x 24".

JediTricks
08-12-2007, 11:04 PM
Rocketboy, where in the world do you put a 24-foot-square painting of Darth Maul?!?

BB, you and your skills make me sick. ;) Good job. :thumbsup:

Basker, cool work with those Trek concepts. One question though, you've got so much detail, how come your outlines are aliased (blocky instead of curved)? And the Foxstrike reminds me of the NSEA Protector from Galaxy Quest. :D


I just made this ANH wallpaper design: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=68319007&blogID=298342108

It's based on my 8.5-year-old Ep I wallpaper: http://geocities.com/jeditricks/crawls.htm

Old'd, right? I'm just happy I was able to make the new one look not as bad as that EpI version, I was so proud when I made it but it's hard to look at now. I'm working on the rest of the movies right now.

Rocketboy
08-12-2007, 11:15 PM
Rocketboy, where in the world do you put a 24-foot-square painting of Darth Maul?!? Probably the same reason you made an Episode 1 wallpaper. :D
(And yeah, that should have been inches - corrected now)

And that painting is over four years old now. I painted on March 21/22, 2003. I remember watching the "shack and awe" bombing of Baghdad as I did it.

I have a bunch of other I did in paint that I planned on doing the same way (a few were even better images, IMO), but never got around to it.

LTBasker
08-13-2007, 01:36 AM
LTBasker, are those created primarily in MSPaint? If so, damn, good stuff.
Before getting Photoshop, I did a lot of stuff in MSPaint and it was a frustrating, time consuming pain in the butt.

Yeah, they are created from scratch in MSPaint. I draw the basic concept on paper to figure out how deep or long I want things to be then I draw it from scratch with MSPaint's tools. Of course, by the end of each project every single pixel has basically been manually modified while zoomed in.



Basker, cool work with those Trek concepts. One question though, you've got so much detail, how come your outlines are aliased (blocky instead of curved)?

The outlines are aliased because it's all done in Paint, I only color, add text and save in Photoshop. Thanks for noticing the detail, I had to add alot to the Runabout because it was in an Artwork & Design competition on this Trek board I frequent. I've tried to keep a consistent level since then. :cool:



And the Foxstrike reminds me of the NSEA Protector from Galaxy Quest. :D

That's always pointed out to me but I didn't base it off at all. Really, I was using the Vulcan warp nacelle ring idea horizontally as an excuse for "wings" (cause I prefer wings on my fighters). The funny thing is, after watching Galaxy Quest again it inspired me on modifications I could do to make it better. That's why it's getting redone. :D

mastermatt24
08-14-2007, 09:52 PM
thanks guys.
heres how shes comin along:
(btw, she lets me paint her after shes done filming ;) )
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b250/mastermatt24/IMG_5276.jpg

bigbarada
08-14-2007, 11:57 PM
Looking good, Matt!:thumbsup:

I decided to upload one of my Star Wars drawings. I have tons of these kind of drawings but they always end up unfinished or thrown away because I'm not happy with some aspect of it.

This is my most recent drawing of an old RPG character, a Klatooinian Pit Fighter (tentatively named Onklon Toe). Very rough, very early stages and I'm not sure how happy I am with his "gladiator armor" at this point. I was watching 300 on DVD like three time a day when I was drawing the armor (and his abs:) ) so I can't help but think that had to have some impact on the design.

darthvyn
08-15-2007, 09:02 AM
I have tons of these kind of drawings but they always end up unfinished or thrown away because I'm not happy with some aspect of it.

i know full well what you mean - that's why i've decided to try to do a sketch daily, knowing that there might be flaws/problems in the execution. posting it anyway and living with it has not only helped me get over those feelings, but in only two weeks i can actually see a progression in my abilities to produce something regularly and under time restrictions. it's an interesting experiment.

btw, the klatooinian looks freakin' cool!

bigbarada
08-15-2007, 12:22 PM
Thanks! He's a character I came up with when I was stationed in Korea back in 2000. We played D&D and the old West End Games SW RPG to pass the time (WOTC's d20 Star Wars RPG never really took off with us).

His initial backstory was kind of silly, though, he was a legendary and popular pit fighter who had attracted the attention of the Jedi Council because his performance during his fights hinted at some untapped Force potential and the Jedi wanted to get to him before anyone else did.

So, he wasn't a padawan or even an official student of the Force, just a guy that the Jedi were keeping their eyes on and meeting with on a regular basis to ensure that he remained an ally.

Anyways, he was a character I had some fun with, but we always ended up going right back to D&D. Where I played this character:
http://ewancient.lysator.liu.se/pic/art/n/m/nmros/hrothulf_color_full2.jpg

So I never played the Klatooinian too much, but he was actually one of the initial inspirations for my username when I joined these forums back in 2001.

JediTricks
08-15-2007, 11:17 PM
Probably the same reason you made an Episode 1 wallpaper. :D
(And yeah, that should have been inches - corrected now)

And that painting is over four years old now. I painted on March 21/22, 2003. I remember watching the "shack and awe" bombing of Baghdad as I did it.I really thought you made a 24-foot Maul painting though. :D



The outlines are aliased because it's all done in Paint, I only color, add text and save in Photoshop. Thanks for noticing the detail, I had to add alot to the Runabout because it was in an Artwork & Design competition on this Trek board I frequent. I've tried to keep a consistent level since then. :cool:Oh, yeah, MS Paint doesn't freedraw anti-aliased, I forgot about that. Detail is key to Trek stuff, they've done so many designs that look the same that even when you do something cool like your work, without the details it feels very much like a throwback (read the Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise and you'll see all the ST:Phase II and ST:TMP is very bland even on the stuff they didn't end up using).


That's always pointed out to me but I didn't base it off at all. Really, I was using the Vulcan warp nacelle ring idea horizontally as an excuse for "wings" (cause I prefer wings on my fighters). The funny thing is, after watching Galaxy Quest again it inspired me on modifications I could do to make it better. That's why it's getting redone. :DHmm, I sorta see the ring thing, ok. The ring is actually not Vulcan, although Enterprise retconned it into being that way, but in TMP they showed that ring belonging to the Enterprise before the NCC-1701 so it's an Earth deisgn - full circle (pun intended).


That's crazy Matt, good job so far!

Cool Klaatonian BB. You got a thing for making your guys beefy musclemen though, eh?

bigbarada
08-16-2007, 12:35 AM
Cool Klaatonian BB. You got a thing for making your guys beefy musclemen though, eh?

Yeah, it's something I tried really hard to avoid for a while, but eventually gave up on because I found that I just didn't enjoy drawing as much when I tried for more natural physiques.

JediTricks
08-25-2007, 02:57 AM
I finished the ESB wallpapers, no beefy musclemen to be seen though. :p
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=68319007&blogID=303153922

This one gave me a hard look at the way the OT works artistically, color schemes and moods, depth of focus, movement, shadow, all that jazz. The director of photography went to town with the film, almost everything looks the right kind of moody without being forced. Artistically, the movie triumphs from a cinematic standpoint but slips down some notches in the stills application, there are too many elements that look threadbare - most of which are effects shots that depend heavily on motion and blur to hide the poor quality matting and comping (we can safely chalk that up to "movie magic" ;)). Also, the stormtroopers are really not cutting it when you just look at them, there's only 1 or 2 shots where a single stormtrooper gets the attitude right without moving (they rely so heavily on movement and scene attitude to convey what they obviously cannot properly achieve on-set, it's the first time I even partly understood why Lucas went with CGI clonetroopers for the prequels) and in a group they NEVER look good when taken out of the motion picture scenario.

Honestly, I've never thought this much about the artistic merits of the OT films whatsoever, and I think that's a testament to the art they used to cover up the technical deficiencies so well - that's where the real "magic" of ILM is found.



ESB is also the first of these where I've thought so much about light and how its absence says more than its presence when used correctly. There's this shot I used in the upper right corner of Luke & Vader dueling in the Carbon Freeze Chamber, I didn't even want to use it at first, I wanted the classic "Luke standing defiantly" shot that comes just before it where the 2 figures are silhouetted against the center of that platform's rear structure, but I wanted sabers more and I didn't want a shot of either party winning or losing (originally I had used a cool shot of Luke dodging Vader's saber as it shoots sparks out of the Cloud City core, but Luke's face looked weird after looking for a few minutes) and I found that little beaut... actually, I found the shots right before and after. Right before because they weren't pushed off across the pipework and right after because it was from a different angle, but as I scrolled through the photos I caught Vader's mask peering through the silhouette and it blew me away. It's only seen that way in that 1 frame, the other frames either Luke's moving and slightly blurry or Vader's too much behind the pipes.

So I do that, and I love it, but it's now way too much Carbon Freeze Chamber which is all oranges and blues and smoke, not at all what I wanted to have a bunch of (which, as you can see in the final version, turned out exactly the way I planned for it not to :p). Then I decided I needed a single shot of Vader, and I pulled out all the cliche "I am your father!" shots with grasping hands and clenched fist poses, but either the helmet was in a position that wasn't menacing enough or the hand was out of focus or there wasn't enough visual data in the black portions which looked too plain. So I found that saber shot in the bottom right, which floated 3 different positions (bottom right, left, and 2nd from bottom left) and I was never entirely convinced, it had a locale and color scheme I hadn't used yet which was good, but it wasn't quite what I had in mind (that's another artistic trick I'm starting to get used to, the art's already there, my preconceived notions of it oftentimes just are in the way and eventually get cast aside - but I appreciate that as part of the artistic process because it gives me challenges to overcome). Then I came across the attached frame, I pulled it out originally without much thought, and the other frames in that sequence were only ok (or the smoke was all nasty artifacty), but this one was somehow twice as ominous as an incredibly slight positional shift before and after.

The shadow, the position, it was somehow "the shot" for me even though it was yet more Carbon Freeze Chamber, and I actually was able to massage it into a nicer, cleaner version than what's here (the attached is the unprocessed shot, although SSG's forums downsized it from 1024 to 800 wide but it doesn't look like that affected it). And I kept it in the final mix and kept it and kept it, that shadow and fog just blew me away, the slight reflection in the helmet lens... but eventually it had to go because it wasn't as good or as iconic or the right coloring.

LTBasker
08-28-2007, 02:34 AM
Very nice job, JT!



Hmm, I sorta see the ring thing, ok. The ring is actually not Vulcan, although Enterprise retconned it into being that way, but in TMP they showed that ring belonging to the Enterprise before the NCC-1701 so it's an Earth deisgn - full circle (pun intended).

I believe the rings on that Enterprise were still Vulcan, humanity was just getting into making warp-ships and so the Vulcans helped out. Really, what better way to start off with these two races than for them to collaborate on one of the first ships? I don't know for sure though, this is the first time I've heard of them being Earth's creation.

Anyhoo, sorry about it being a late reply. I've got a new WIP to post-

My "successor" of the TOS phaser, by 2-3 years, like going from the TNG cobra-head to the boomerang.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSPhaserproj2.jpg

JediTricks
08-30-2007, 01:40 AM
Thanks Basker.


The ringed Enterprise comes from the rec room scenes in Star Trek:TMP, long before there was any of that "Vulcans did it!" bunko from the prequel show. Decker tells Ilia "these are all the previous ships named Enterprise" - including several human ships before that Enterprise, so it wouldn't make sense to have a Vulcan tie-in.


Pretty cool use of the type-1 handheld phaser combination, but keep in mind, ST1 and 2 have those weird flat art-deco ones so technically it can't entirely bridge TOS to the ST5 phaser without sidestepping it. Dang I'm a nerd! :p

LTBasker
08-30-2007, 04:37 PM
The ringed Enterprise comes from the rec room scenes in Star Trek:TMP, long before there was any of that "Vulcans did it!" bunko from the prequel show. Decker tells Ilia "these are all the previous ships named Enterprise" - including several human ships before that Enterprise, so it wouldn't make sense to have a Vulcan tie-in.

Good point there, I'll have to look more into that. If the ring nacelles are Earth's creation, then it makes even more sense to use them as it would be a nice homage to the abandoned style.



Pretty cool use of the type-1 handheld phaser combination, but keep in mind, ST1 and 2 have those weird flat art-deco ones so technically it can't entirely bridge TOS to the ST5 phaser without sidestepping it. Dang I'm a nerd! :p

It isn't supposed to bridge them though, it's an evolution of the phaser between TOS and TMP. I based a little bit on the later movie phasers, but nothing that is supposed to bridge them together.

Anyhoo, this is the current progression of it:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2Reg.jpg

JediTricks
08-31-2007, 01:24 AM
I think I liked it better as a bridge between the TOS one and the one used in the last 2 movies, that one has style. I'm not seeing the TMP in this phaser much yet, just the art deco side-lines, but I could be missing what you're getting at or just plain ol' forgetting.

I like the new trigger, much more "movie", but the grippier curve behind the handle seems like it'd hurt.

BTW, the Type 1 phaser on the TMP phaser is just the front half of that type 2 phaser, I believe. They didn't use it, but that's what the physical break is on the prop's midline, it's in the literature they released with the pictures of the Phase II stuff.

LTBasker
09-12-2007, 09:47 PM
Updating on this one is going slooooowwwlly, I keep getting stuck. I want to add more detail, but am afraid I'll add too much detail and it won't fit in with the TOS-era. Anyways, current version:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2Reg2.jpg


I think I liked it better as a bridge between the TOS one and the one used in the last 2 movies, that one has style. I'm not seeing the TMP in this phaser much yet, just the art deco side-lines, but I could be missing what you're getting at or just plain ol' forgetting.

Keep in mind, it's not bridging any gaps. It's merely an upgrade/replacement to the TOS phaser type II body. The TOS type I is what is supposed to mount to it, not the TMP type I. I think my cobrahead to boomerang phaser analogy was off, think of it like TNG upgrading from the dustbuster to the cobrahead.



I like the new trigger, much more "movie", but the grippier curve behind the handle seems like it'd hurt.

The curve directly behind the grip is supposed to be for conforming to the curve of the thumb or the base of the thumb, which the back of the phaser will be "resting" on. The idea is that the weight of the type I on the back would help someone keep it level as it rests on their thumb-base.

I've modified it though, personally, I think it looks better but could still use a bit of work.

JediTricks
09-13-2007, 04:07 AM
Why the change to the longer handle and TOS-style trigger style? I like the boxed top of the grip, but I don't see how in 3d it'd integrate with the body.

I think you can get away with adding a little more detail, especially if you thin out the top "ramp" to the Type-1 a little. At the very least, you might consider putting in a control for stun/kill (the TOS version had the dial behind the type-1 and another dial near the front where you have those little arrows).


I think my cobrahead to boomerang phaser analogy was off, think of it like TNG upgrading from the dustbuster to the cobrahead.Ah, that makes a lot more sense then.


I obviously don't know what's in your mind, but it looks like it's really getting there.

LTBasker
09-13-2007, 12:46 PM
Why the change to the longer handle and TOS-style trigger style? I like the boxed top of the grip, but I don't see how in 3d it'd integrate with the body.

The change of the handle was to make it more like the TOS version, since they're removable powerpacks the idea was that they would work with this version too, but as you mentioned the integration needs work. I'll probably shorten it slightly and definitely do more work on the integration. I did a quick rear-view of it based on the angles I had imagined but it doesn't look right.



I think you can get away with adding a little more detail, especially if you thin out the top "ramp" to the Type-1 a little. At the very least, you might consider putting in a control for stun/kill (the TOS version had the dial behind the type-1 and another dial near the front where you have those little arrows).

I've been trying to find a place to mount the stun/kill knob, do you think it would look alright in a crevice on the "ramp"? The second dial I've been trying to find out what it does, I'm thinking it's an adjustment for the beam width.



I obviously don't know what's in your mind, but it looks like it's really getting there.

Thanks. :) The problem is, I don't have an exact idea in my head of what I want, I had a few ideas which is what I based the sketches on and I've already put those in. But, for the final design, I have no clue.

JediTricks
09-13-2007, 11:27 PM
I've been trying to find a place to mount the stun/kill knob, do you think it would look alright in a crevice on the "ramp"? The second dial I've been trying to find out what it does, I'm thinking it's an adjustment for the beam width.It could work there, or you could just say "the type 1 controls also change the type 2's".

The second dial I don't know what it does either, I like your answer as much as any. You could put buttons under the arrows and have that be whatever the selection is supposed to be. :D


Thanks. :) The problem is, I don't have an exact idea in my head of what I want, I had a few ideas which is what I based the sketches on and I've already put those in. But, for the final design, I have no clue.Well, good luck to you, and don't be afraid to call it done when you're only mostly happy - a lot of the best art out there - like Star Wars - is "abandoned" rather than "finished".

LTBasker
09-14-2007, 10:44 PM
Never give up, never surrender. :D

I'm definitely alot happier with the way the handle/powerpack looks now and the way it connects to the body, also added the stun/kill knob.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2Reg3.jpg

And it has saucer seperation! ...I kid, but it does seperate.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2Seperated.jpg

And the Officer's variant-

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2OfficerMod.jpg

JediTricks
09-15-2007, 04:00 PM
Pretty cool! I like the disconnected view, though it's missing the stun/kill knob.

What's the story behind the officer variant?

LTBasker
09-22-2007, 07:56 PM
The story behind the officer variant is, at one point when I got stuck I decided to see what it would look like with the rear fins/heat sink (I've only heard it referred to as that in one place, dunno if it's right) facing the same way as on the regular TOS phaser.

I kinda liked it but the body had to be shortened a bit to make them fit, so after shortening it I really liked the result. I didn't want to switch to only focus on that though, so I figured it could be a variant for higher-ups.

For updates, added the side dial, and the button added under the type 1 phaser slides over to unlock it from the type 2 body. Also, tried to add some detail into the grip.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2Reg4.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2OfficerMod3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2Seperated2.jpg

Found a direct side-view of a hand holding a pistol and decided to apply it to my phasers as an idea of scale, I think the proportions are off a bit on each but probably due to not using a scale reference when working on the designs.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/VariousPhasersHandscale.jpg
(The pic might be a little large for some people)

JediTricks
09-23-2007, 03:51 PM
Ah, I see where you were coming from there then.

Yeah, they seem to be fins/heat sinks, so why not call 'em that?

I like the slider, but now I miss the arrow-type details near the front. :p I don't even know what they were supposed to be, but they were kinda "new" which I liked.

Cool freaky hand! :D

LTBasker
09-23-2007, 05:56 PM
Hehe, the arrow thingies were just temporary decor, they'll probably get re-added, I liked'em too and think they were subtle enough that could fit in with TOS.

Theres some slight history on the arrows, they're actually the outlines of the running lights from the Sly Fox runabout. :D Whenever I need a random detail, I kitbash bits from my past designs.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/SlyFoxRunaboutSideandNoPod.jpg

JediTricks
09-24-2007, 08:12 PM
Ah, I getcha! That's pretty funny, but I still liked 'em there. :D

LTBasker
09-25-2007, 04:56 PM
Re-added the arrows but now with lights inside to indicate the beam width level as well as a safety setting.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/TOSType2Reg5.jpg

JediTricks
09-25-2007, 07:01 PM
Pretty cool. In the future, Starfleet weapons will use nothing but outlines of shuttlecraft for indicators. :D

LTBasker
09-29-2007, 01:07 AM
Well of course, they'll just use the holodeck to shrink or enlarge them! :D

I feel a bit stuck on again on the phaser, so I decided to give something else a try, so I made a Recon shuttle in a couple hours. Probably won't work on it any further, if I do then quite a few parts will probably change.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/ReconShuttle.jpg

Note: I switched around the usual impulse thruster/warp engine shuttle lay-out. Here, the warp engines are where the impulse thrusters are usually mounted and in the nacelles are forward/reverse impulse thrusters as well as more advanced sensors.

bigbarada
01-15-2008, 02:16 PM
I finally have something new that I've been working on the last few days. It's my Stump character how he would look in the Star Wars universe (kind of a Han Solo scoundrel type). He's tentatively named "Doss Bolder" but I just keep calling him Stump.

The goons surrounding him are his starship crew. The bald girl with the cybernetic implants is Imro Tell, Stump's co-pilot/girlfriend, she's from the same race as Djas Puhr. The big lizard in the back is the ship's gunner, and he's a member of the Tradoshan spin-off race, called the Skodi. He's named Egg Drassil. I haven't come up with much for the 4-eyed, squidfaced guy. There's a fifth member of their group, not shown, who was a princess on her homeworld and Egg was helping her escape her planet when he hooked up with Stump's crew.

Stump is a human who grew up on the high-gravity planet called Torridus, which was an Imperial mining colony. So he spend most of his childhood working in the mines until he was able to escape. So, a combination of the high-gravity and a lifetime of hardwork kind of explains his muscular stature. Plus Torridus' climate is pretty extreme so Stump can actually endure tough environmental conditions, that would require most to wear climate-controlled suits, wearing little more than an oxygen mask.

That's also why he walks around with no shirt on (plus it give him that 1950s tough guy vibe :yes: ).

JediTricks
01-16-2008, 05:34 PM
Pretty cool! How long did it take to come up with all that?

bigbarada
01-16-2008, 08:30 PM
Pretty cool! How long did it take to come up with all that?

Most of it I came up with back in 2001. The Doss Bulder indentity for Stump, Torridus, Imro Tell, squid-guy, and the whole thing with Egg Drassil rescuing the alien princess. All that was right around when I first joined up at SSG, I was just super self conscious about my drawings back then and never posted them.

I designed Stump back in 1993 for a character design contest that ran in Image Comics' The Savage Dragon over 14 years ago (wow, do I feel old now); but I liked the character enough that I didn't want to risk losing him, so I never submitted the drawing. I've been drawing Stump in one form or another ever since.

The idea of the Skodi came to me in 2000 while I was stationed in Korea, and they were a group of Tradoshans that had been stranded on a cold, rocky, mountainous planet (similar to South Korea) thousands of years before ANH, and kind of adapted to that environment. They're just more rugged looking with spiney protrusions similar to a snapping turtle, smaller eyes and more husky physiques.

This particular drawing I've been working on for about a week now. You can see that Stump's face is clearly based on this Matt Hughes photo (an old poster concept that we never ended up using).
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/Barada73/?action=view&current=01newposter.jpg

JediTricks
01-16-2008, 08:46 PM
Geez, no kidding it's based on that! Except for the direction of the head tilt... Soooo, what does Matt think of all this? ;)

Just a week? Not bad at all! So, you going for Luke's ANH Celebration jacket on your guy there? I hadn't noticed that before, but the lines are kinda like that costume, or Greedo's I suppose.

bigbarada
01-16-2008, 09:18 PM
Geez, no kidding it's based on that! Except for the direction of the head tilt... Soooo, what does Matt think of all this? ;)

Just a week? Not bad at all! So, you going for Luke's ANH Celebration jacket on your guy there? I hadn't noticed that before, but the lines are kinda like that costume, or Greedo's I suppose.

Matt thinks it's pretty cool. In fact it was a drawing of Stump that I sent in to the website, to show how much the character looked like Matt, that kind of got Matt to notice me and got my foot in the door to eventually run the whole website. Long story.

Anyways, yes, that is the Yavin Luke/Ponda Baba coat on him. I just haven't figured out what color it's going to be yet (probably not bright yellow :D ). I love that coat and I wish I knew what real world piece of clothing it was based on.

His gun is also a Walther P-38 pistol with a new barrel and the scope from Han Solo's ESB blaster stuck underneath. I wanted it to have a clear OT feel to it, so I drew the gun as if it were pieced together from existing handguns just like in the films. Rather than trying to design something on the fly, which you can always spot a mile away.

jedi master sal
01-16-2008, 11:18 PM
BB, would you mind if I take a stab at inking your sketch? It's a very cool sketch and I'd like to see how it may look in color. I won't post it anywhere and will only give you the colorized file.

Inking artwork is a side passion of mine. I wanted to do this in the comic book industry before life changed...

LMK,
-Sal

bigbarada
01-17-2008, 12:30 AM
BB, would you mind if I take a stab at inking your sketch? It's a very cool sketch and I'd like to see how it may look in color. I won't post it anywhere and will only give you the colorized file.

Inking artwork is a side passion of mine. I wanted to do this in the comic book industry before life changed...

LMK,
-Sal

Are you talking about traditional inking or in the computer. Because I gave up on traditional inking years ago and just use Adobe Illustrator for my drawings.

But I wouldn't mind seeing what a traditional inker could do with it. Would you need the original pencil drawing or just a high quality scan?

Attached is the WIP (work in progress) of me recreating the drawing in Illustrator. It's a very time consuming and labor intensive process. But, if I didn't have so much website work to do, I'd be a lot further along.

The other image is a quick digibash of the blaster. I'll use this to recreate Stump's blaster in Illustrator, then just paste it in to the drawing.

jedi master sal
01-17-2008, 07:38 PM
Are you talking about traditional inking or in the computer. Because I gave up on traditional inking years ago and just use Adobe Illustrator for my drawings.

But I wouldn't mind seeing what a traditional inker could do with it. Would you need the original pencil drawing or just a high quality scan?

Attached is the WIP (work in progress) of me recreating the drawing in Illustrator. It's a very time consuming and labor intensive process. But, if I didn't have so much website work to do, I'd be a lot further along.

The other image is a quick digibash of the blaster. I'll use this to recreate Stump's blaster in Illustrator, then just paste it in to the drawing.

Both traditional and Adobe.

For now though since I don't have as much time it would be with adobe. I would do most of the fill color in photoshop as well as the highlights and shadows. The line work yes can be done in Illustrator. Though for the moment as a basic step you can heavily contrast the sketch to get dark lines, then go back and draw them perfectly. But at least this way you can get quicker results and do the fine tuning later.

For the traditional art, a hi-res scan would work. I wouldn't want to use your actual artwork anyway. (I know I don't want others fuddling with my originals...lol)

bigbarada
01-18-2008, 12:10 AM
Both traditional and Adobe.

For now though since I don't have as much time it would be with adobe. I would do most of the fill color in photoshop as well as the highlights and shadows. The line work yes can be done in Illustrator. Though for the moment as a basic step you can heavily contrast the sketch to get dark lines, then go back and draw them perfectly. But at least this way you can get quicker results and do the fine tuning later.

For the traditional art, a hi-res scan would work. I wouldn't want to use your actual artwork anyway. (I know I don't want others fuddling with my originals...lol)

That sounds fine. Give me a bit to get the file uploaded somewhere. It's a large image 11x17 inches at 300 dpi so I think it's too big to email. I also had to scan it in sections because of it's size and put it back together in Photoshop, so I'll go over it again to see if there are any areas that I still need to clean up. I just did a quick job of piecing it back together because I knew that I'd just be redrawing the whole thing in Illustrator.

I'll PM you a link where you can download the file once I get it uploaded. I'd be interested to see your take on it.

jedi master sal
01-18-2008, 11:02 AM
That sounds fine. Give me a bit to get the file uploaded somewhere. It's a large image 11x17 inches at 300 dpi so I think it's too big to email. I also had to scan it in sections because of it's size and put it back together in Photoshop, so I'll go over it again to see if there are any areas that I still need to clean up. I just did a quick job of piecing it back together because I knew that I'd just be redrawing the whole thing in Illustrator.

I'll PM you a link where you can download the file once I get it uploaded. I'd be interested to see your take on it.

Sounds great.

If you've got an idea of colors for the characters, let me know. Otherwise I'll just go with what comes to me (don't worry it won't be outlandish or "Marvel Comics" colors, heh heh).

bigbarada
01-18-2008, 11:15 AM
Sounds great.

If you've got an idea of colors for the characters, let me know. Otherwise I'll just go with what comes to me (don't worry it won't be outlandish or "Marvel Comics" colors, heh heh).

I'll let you know as soon as I upload it. Probably later this evening.

As for colors, I'm pretty wide open on that. Stump, of course is human and his hair is about the same color as Luke Skywalker's with maybe a little more red in it (the same color as Matt Hughes' hair, so you can use him as a reference if you want); but feel free to play around with whatever you think looks right.

Imro, the bald girl, is colored like Djas Puhr (a purple-ish black); but that's all I have for color ideas right now. I planned to just play around with them in Illustrator until I found a combination that worked.

bigbarada
01-18-2008, 07:23 PM
Just a couple of older drawings, both of Biker Scouts. The first one if from 2001. The "unmasked" Scout was done right around Ep2. I liked Jango's pilot helmet enough to try to incorporate the design into the Biker Scouts. Of course back then I thought that Jango's helmet fit over the little "headset;" but I guess that's not the case.

I drew the face off of a photo of a friend of mine, but with the way the drawing turned out, he looks like he's got a bit of indigestion.:o

bobafrett
01-19-2008, 11:25 AM
I finally found the Vader piece I did, I took pictures of it, now I just need to get it online somehow. It was a process whare you take a piece of cloth, wax out the area's you want to stay white, dip the cloth into a light color, wax over the parts you want to keep that particular color then dip it into a darker color, continue until you are done. I did it in high school, but I was excited to see how well the Vader turned out.

bigbarada
01-24-2008, 03:24 PM
I finally found the Vader piece I did, I took pictures of it, now I just need to get it online somehow. It was a process whare you take a piece of cloth, wax out the area's you want to stay white, dip the cloth into a light color, wax over the parts you want to keep that particular color then dip it into a darker color, continue until you are done. I did it in high school, but I was excited to see how well the Vader turned out.

Yes, please do, I don't want to feel that I'm monopolizing this thread.

With that in mind, does everyone here know about SciFi3D.com? It's a site that offers 3D models of sci-fi characters, vehicles, environments, etc. for free download. Of course, you need some sort of 3D program to be able to use the 3D models once you download them; but it's completely free. You just have to give credit to the site and the model creator/s in your renders.

Some are pretty much what you would expect from a free download, but there are some really high quality models up there too. I found this AT-TE model that's been modeled and textured good enough that it could actually be used as a lo-res model for one of the Star Wars films.

Here's a quick render of it that I made this morning (using Maya 7), pretty amazing considering I didn't pay a penny for it. I has a "GI Joe" lighting rig pre-built into the file, but I'll probably replace that at some point with a true HDRI set-up in Mental Ray. The sky in the background was downloaded from mayang.com

At some point, I'll probably rig it for animation, but for now I'm happy just doing eye-candy renders.

jedi master sal
01-24-2008, 04:35 PM
Ooh that's sweet. Say BB, what animation programs can I use on a MAC with those files from that site? (Or a more broad question, what animation programs are there for MAC in general?)

-Sal

bigbarada
01-24-2008, 04:48 PM
Ooh that's sweet. Say BB, what animation programs can I use on a MAC with those files from that site? (Or a more broad question, what animation programs are there for MAC in general?)

-Sal

I know that Maya versions 5 and later work on Macintosh. There is also ZBrush and Cinema4D. I'm not sure about 3DS/Max or Lightwave. Those might be PC only, I've never used them. If you've browsed around there, you'll see that there aren't many choices for Maya; but I think that's because Maya has just been financially out of reach for so long. It's professional grade software and lots of big effects companies use it (Gollum from LOTR was made in Maya 4, I believe). Many of those models look like they were intended for video games not hi-res renders.

Also, I haven't had much luck downloading these on a Mac, I had to use my PC laptop to download the AT-TE, then transfer it to the Mac.

bobafrett
04-06-2008, 09:55 PM
I finally got my home computer working, so I found the art piece I did in High School.

bigbarada
11-23-2008, 04:46 PM
Well, this new cartoon kind of inspired me to revisit my Klatooinian pit fighter character; but in a more animated style. At least that's how it started out, but I always get carried away with the details.

Right now, I'm working out the anatomy. I'll recreate this in Illustrator and add his fighting gear later. This will allow me to add, remove, mix and match accessories onto a digital "paper doll" type template.

I wanted him to have humanoid muscle structure but in somewhat alien proportions. I kind of took my cues from a dog's muscle structure, where all the mass is in the back and shoulders with a tiny chest and a thick waist. Klatooinians always looked like bulldogs to me, so it seems to be a good fit.

bobafrett
11-23-2008, 05:08 PM
Nice start there BibB!

bigbarada
11-24-2008, 08:26 PM
Thanks, I started the process of rebuilding it in Illustrator. I got the basic outline done and have started adding the colors.

bigbarada
11-28-2008, 01:17 AM
Another update, I had some time today so I worked on this one quite a bit. I got his skin color basically figured out (even though his chest area rasterized a little more orange than I would have liked when transferring it over to Photoshop). I also added a slave collar which was actually inspired by watching Tom & Jerry this morning. I thought the collar that the bulldog wore in that cartoon would be an interesting touch. I still don't have any gear designed for him, I've just been working on the skin tones and the freckles.

bigbarada
11-30-2008, 12:22 AM
Well, I ditched the collar and added some legs and some actual clothing items. I based the design of his outfit off of the traditional garb of Mongolian wrestlers. I wanted something unique that didn't just look like pieces of a gladiator's armor; but still retained that whimsical Star Wars feel.

JediTricks
11-30-2008, 02:27 AM
Pretty cool! Glad you ditched the dog collar, it seemed a bit much for me. His legs are kinda short, is that on purpose? Going for a squat, built type of character?

bobafrett
11-30-2008, 06:42 AM
I like it, he looks like he could be a great fighter in the UFC!

bigbarada
11-30-2008, 01:21 PM
Pretty cool! Glad you ditched the dog collar, it seemed a bit much for me. His legs are kinda short, is that on purpose? Going for a squat, built type of character?

Yeah, the collar kind of gave him that "gay biker" vibe. Not really what I was going for.:o I decided that his outfit should have an element of showmanship and not just be all leather straps and body armor.

It was actually watching the old Tom & Jerry episode where Jerry gets a tiny bulldog in the mail that inspired me to draw this picture. So I definitely wanted him to have that stumpy, cartoon bulldog look, but the studded collar was just taking it too far. So, the short squat legs are definitely a style choice. Which is probably better suited for a less detailed drawing, but I'm pretty happy with the final result.



I like it, he looks like he could be a great fighter in the UFC!

Thanks! I wanted him to look like he had usable strength, so I designed him with a thick core and the outer muscles aren't in the typical bodybuilder proportions. It's basically an extreme version of Matt's physique (but don't tell Matt I said that.. :) ).

Anways, in case anyone's wondering what I mean by Mongolian wrestlers, here's a pretty good photo of them. You can see the colors used have a much more carnival-like feel to them and it would be kind of hard to take these guys seriously in a death match. ;) I actually started with a just a literal recreation of the outfit, then started to back off little by little to make him less "girly" looking.

Attached is a photo of the traditional Mongolian wrestlers along with my Klatooinian in the same outfit. It's just hard for anyone to look like a tough guy in that get up.:D

bigbarada
02-18-2009, 01:40 AM
I've been getting back into comic books and X-Men again recently, so I spent the day working on a drawing of my favorite character, Beast. I've always preferred his human form, especially as drawn by Jack Kirby, so wanted to give my interpretation of that version of Beast.

He was originally supposed to be in his Silver Age uniform, but I spent so much time developing his anatomy that I didn't really feel like covering all that up with the baggy 1960s uniform. So, for now, he's in a swimsuit (he was naked for a while there, so count your blessings :) ). The background and text were just something I threw together in Photoshop.

bobafrett
02-18-2009, 08:10 AM
Big B, you continue to amaze me with your talent. Very nice work there.

bigbarada
02-18-2009, 10:37 PM
Big B, you continue to amaze me with your talent. Very nice work there.

Thanks, I've been trying to recreate this one in Illustrator but it seems to be losing a lot in translation. I'll keep working on it, but I'm starting to think that this drawing might actually require me to attempt inking by hand for the first time in years. Which I hate doing because you lose the "editability" of the pencil work.

Or I could just keep this one as a pencil sketch and move on to a new drawing.

bigbarada
02-19-2009, 11:16 PM
Been doing some colorizing in Photoshop. Mostly just using different Hue/Saturation layers with layer masks. I also tried something different with the logo, kind of inspired by the old 1960s comic book covers. However, I think it's too clean compared to the drawing, so I might try it again with a hand drawn logo.

JediTricks
02-19-2009, 11:41 PM
Pretty cool stuff, even if it is a little weird to see him with a modern haircut and small trunks.

I totally agree with the "too clean" comment, hand-drawn would work great there tho', you've got the right idea.

I had a stupid idea, what about making his body hair slightly blue? I know it's not true to the classic character, but he's not wearing that ridiculous hood/mask either. :p

bigbarada
02-19-2009, 11:59 PM
Pretty cool stuff, even if it is a little weird to see him with a modern haircut and small trunks.

I totally agree with the "too clean" comment, hand-drawn would work great there tho', you've got the right idea.

I had a stupid idea, what about making his body hair slightly blue? I know it's not true to the classic character, but he's not wearing that ridiculous hood/mask either. :p

Thanks. Actually there is a bluish Hue/Saturation layer for his hair; but I think it's too subtle, because it's easy spot the blue tint in the PSD file, but it seems to get lost when the picture is optimized for the web.

I tried making his hair a dark brown, but it just didn't seem right. When I went with a blue tint, then seemed to fit perfectly. Probably because in the old school comic books (before computer coloring took over), blue was always used for highlights on really dark hair.

bigbarada
02-22-2009, 12:28 AM
Okay, I've got it mostly redrawn in Illustrator. The hair is a little sloppy right now, but that's just because I got lazy and imported it in from another drawing for now. I'll get the hair finished later. I decided to go ahead and put him in his uniform; but it's not the baggy version. There's still a lot of work to do, but it's late and I have to go pick up a friend at the airport tomorrow morning, so I'm taking a break:

bigbarada
02-24-2009, 12:03 PM
Well, I've decided to move on to a different drawing. Another Beast drawing, but this time more of an action pose. I can't scan the drawing into the computer just yet, because you can see that it's outgrown the page and I had to tape together two pieces of Bristol board. I think I need to work on making my drawings a little smaller.:o

bigbarada
03-08-2009, 01:28 AM
And yet another Hank McCoy drawing, this time a portrait. I think I've got a fairly decent handle on the character right now, so I'll probably move on to another X-Man. I'm not as good at drawing females, so I'll probably start work on developing my own look for Jean Grey. It'll be good practice for me.

bobafrett
03-08-2009, 05:32 AM
Very nice BigB!

bigbarada
03-08-2009, 10:40 PM
Very nice BigB!

Thanks! Here's today's attempt at drawing Jean Grey. Drawing women is somewhat counterintuitive for me, since I'm used to adding in lots of details and you just can't do that when drawing females.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-09-2009, 03:42 PM
It also must be counterintuitive to draw something that's not just a homoerotic picture of Matt Hughes.

bigbarada
03-09-2009, 04:31 PM
It also must be counterintuitive to draw something that's not just a homoerotic picture of Matt Hughes.

Well, to that I would say that any perceived "homoeroticism" in my drawings is not intentional and is most likely projected into the work by the viewer. :p

bigbarada
03-16-2009, 12:49 AM
Okay one more. I decided to play around with a more animated style (must have been those Galactic Heroes toys I bought). So here're "toon" versions of Beast and Cyclops.

bobafrett
03-16-2009, 05:22 AM
You are a man of many drawing styles BigB, and I like them all so far!

bigbarada
03-16-2009, 01:58 PM
You are a man of many drawing styles BigB, and I like them all so far!

Thanks, I've learned that spontaneously changing styles is a great way to break through an artist's block or just get out of a rut. But for this drawing, my only goal was to have fun and re-imagine the X-Men without all the brooding and baggage.

At some point, I'll work on the other three Silver Age X-Men, but since I'm the only one still contributing art to this thread, I'll post future updates to my DeviantArt page:
http://nmrosario.deviantart.com/

I just set it up this weekend, so there's not much there right now.

bigbarada
05-01-2009, 03:51 PM
I thought I would post this new drawing here to get some input from a certain other Beast fan on this site. This is the first time that I've attempted to draw the blue, furry Beast. I always had trouble visualizing him before, until I realized that his fur is essentially like what you'd see on a Labrador Retriever. His skin tone probably never actually changed after his secondary mutation, it's actually only his fur that makes him appear bluish-black. A lot of artists just draw him like he has blue-skin and I never liked that.

I deliberately tried to model him after his 1970s Avengers days (I like his more restrained hairstyle from those issues). I've heard from several people about how that's their favorite version of Hank. So I'm going to dig up some of those back issues (#136-211 if I've done my research correctly) and see what it is that I'm missing.

Anyways, I'm liking this version of Hank more and more now (especially after reading a reprint of Amazing Adventures #11). I'm not ready to call him my favorite version of Beast just yet, but he is a very, very close second (to Hank's original human form) now that I've gotten my head around how his fur would appear in the real world.

I know I forgot his "fangs" and his mouth could probably stand to be a little wider.

bobafrett
05-02-2009, 10:12 PM
I love the texture of his "fur", very nicely done. Does it take a lot of time to draw all those lines? I know from the days when I used to sketch, to make something look more realistic, you had to add detail, which usually meant a lot of detailed lines.

bigbarada
05-03-2009, 02:11 AM
I love the texture of his "fur", very nicely done. Does it take a lot of time to draw all those lines? I know from the days when I used to sketch, to make something look more realistic, you had to add detail, which usually meant a lot of detailed lines.

Well, the actual pencil drawing itself didn't take me very long, maybe 2-3 hours at the most with probably about an hour or so working out the flow of the hair. But I had been researching it and thinking it through for weeks before I even started the drawing. I spent some time studying photos of people with hypertrichosis, but that didn't actually turn out to be very helpful since that hair is too long and doesn't conform to the shape of the face. I really had a breakthrough when I was looking at my friend's black labrador retriever and realized that Hank's face was probably very similar to that.

The only thing I didn't really accomplish was that oily sheen that you usually see on a black short hair dog. But I plan to do another picture of furry Beast, so this was more of a study in preparation for that than a fully developed drawing.

Qui-Long Gone
05-21-2009, 07:42 PM
So, I've been busy doing some SW illustrations of my fav. characters from the NT, Qui-Gon Jinn and Aayla Secura. Here's a post of the illustrations I did of them.

If you have some, you should post them too!

Enjoy. :)

Qui-Long Gone
05-21-2009, 07:49 PM
And another Aayla I did for my daughter!

bobafrett
05-21-2009, 08:48 PM
Nice work there Qui-long Gone!

Daryl VayDar
05-22-2009, 07:59 AM
Cool work QLG- I don't have a lot of stuff scanned, and have waaay more sketches than finished art, but here are a few portraits I've done...

Qui-Long Gone
05-22-2009, 09:31 AM
Well done! :thumbsup: I like sketches as much as "finished" art.

JediTricks
05-23-2009, 05:56 PM
Cool works guys! I'm gonna merge this with the SW Art thread.

QLG, the one you did for your daughter kinda reminds me of Mad Magazine posing, like Sergio Aragones. :thumbsup:

Qui-Long Gone
05-26-2009, 08:36 AM
I have to admit that Mad probably had some influence on my art! lol

scruffziller
08-07-2009, 06:25 PM
I just did 4 of them.

Left to right

1. BLOODTEARS OF THE DEMON
2. MIRROR UNIVERSE THOR
3. THE ADVENTURE IS THE CONTROL IS THE ADVENTURE
4. tHE cHANGE oF pERSPECTIVE

scruffziller
08-07-2009, 06:37 PM
Cool work QLG- I don't have a lot of stuff scanned, and have waaay more sketches than finished art, but here are a few portraits I've done...

Thats real GOOD. I aspire to have the ability to communicate in art like that. Since I am a neo-pop artist, I have inherited Andy Warhol's lazyness. :D


I thought I would post this new drawing here to get some input from a certain other Beast fan on this site.

AWESOME!!!

Rocketboy
08-07-2009, 09:02 PM
Good stuff there scruff.

I keep getting the urge to create again, but lack the motivation to actually do it.

THE Slayer
08-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Some SW watercolors.

Yoda and Obi
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/illicitjedi/plugs/yodaPlug.jpg

Shaak Ti
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/illicitjedi/plugs/ShaakPlug.jpg

scruffziller
08-07-2009, 10:28 PM
Some SW watercolors.

Yoda and Obi
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/illicitjedi/plugs/yodaPlug.jpg

Shaak Ti
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/illicitjedi/plugs/ShaakPlug.jpg

Awesome!!!

LTBasker
08-08-2009, 08:20 AM
I love your style, Slayer, hope you post more of them!

The resurrection of this thread has reminded me that last month I upgraded a Star Trek runabout design, which I posted the original of on here a long time ago.



"Sly Fox" Class Runabout-
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/RegularSlyFoxFinal.jpg


Here's the new version: Top/Side (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/SlyFox-Remastered-JoAT/SlyFoxRemastered-Standard.jpg) views, and Bottom/Side (landing gear) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Jedigreedo/SlyFox-Remastered-JoAT/SlyFoxRemastered-Alternate.jpg) views.

Bel-Cam Jos
08-08-2009, 09:43 AM
I thought this thread could use some famous sports comedy and commentary:
:D

Rocketboy
08-08-2009, 05:15 PM
I don't get it...

Qui-Long Gone
08-08-2009, 09:04 PM
^BelCam's ways are mysterious...

*Slayer, I like the background texture with your renderings...nice touch....

Bel-Cam Jos
08-09-2009, 08:24 AM
I don't get it...The title of this thread...

The name of the athlete on the card...

The authenticity stamps, making it an official signature...

My weak, lame attempt at punnery...

:tired:

Qui-Long Gone
08-09-2009, 05:13 PM
^The explanation was about 200 times funnier than the attempted pun!
:D:D:Dlol;):laugh::yes::lipsrsealed::thumbsup::raz z:

Daryl VayDar
08-21-2009, 04:29 PM
Thats real GOOD. I aspire to have the ability to communicate in art like that. Since I am a neo-pop artist, I have inherited Andy Warhol's lazyness. :D

Thanks! It's kinda funny though, sometimes I try to get that pure expressive or emotional kind of quality, but I just keep adding details until that feeling goes away and it kinda becomes a technical exercise...(not sure if that makes sense or not!) Anyway, your stuff rocks, that Thor piece would make a stylish tat for certain!

I scanned a few sketches:

scruffziller
08-21-2009, 04:52 PM
Thanks! It's kinda funny though, sometimes I try to get that pure expressive or emotional kind of quality, but I just keep adding details until that feeling goes away and it kinda becomes a technical exercise...(not sure if that makes sense or not!) Anyway, your stuff rocks, that Thor piece would make a stylish tat for certain!

I scanned a few sketches:

Wow, those are really good. I really like the minimalist style. You draw it in a way that looks like you're not finished with it but somehow I know you are. If that makes sense...:D Or its drawn in a way that some may think is amateurish, but all the elements of structure are there, then you realize this is done by a skilled illustrator.

Rocketboy
08-21-2009, 09:45 PM
Love the Slave 1 drawing.
Reminds me of something we would have seen in the old Star Wars Galaxy cards.

Bel-Cam Jos
08-21-2009, 09:47 PM
Love the Slave 1 drawing.
Reminds me of something we would have seen in the old Star Wars Galaxy cards.Sometimes the best part of those cards were the sketches or thumbnails on the backs of the card.

Cool stuff! :D

Daryl VayDar
08-22-2009, 11:18 AM
Wow, those are really good. I really like the minimalist style. You draw it in a way that looks like you're not finished with it but somehow I know you are. If that makes sense...:D

Thanks again! Truthfully, those last sketches were all exercises for me-

The Palps was sketched in approx. 1 minute, I wanted a quick shot that conveyed his "disgust" with lesser beings...

The Obi/Clones was about 15 minutes (no references) and honestly I just felt like sketching some clones. Even for a sketch, that one never did get finished!

The Slave 1 was purely technical, I don't use a mechanical pencil very often...

Thanks for the kind comments on the Slave 1 guys- it inspired me so I played in photoshop for a while. I also found a Fett illustration from a few years ago.

Bel-Cam Jos
08-22-2009, 02:12 PM
While certainly not as good as the ones posted in this thread, I'll have to see if I can dig up some of my drawings of SW stuff to scan. Only thing I seem to draw anymore are my book quote signs in my classroom, or the door sign for that room.

scruffziller
10-08-2009, 08:38 PM
A new painting. I was very upset when I did this. I felt like my need to be myself and share it with the world was being squashed and robbed.
I call it THE CENSORSHIP OF HAPPINESS

LTBasker
10-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Nice work, Scruff. I really like it.

scruffziller
10-09-2009, 12:46 PM
Nice work, Scruff. I really like it.

Thnx LT!

I discovered the magic of acrylic paint pens.:thumbsup:
They're GREAT for emotion saturated moments of need to paint and complete!!:D

An art aficionado who works at Wal Mart told me that Leonardo da Vinci would have thought the acrylic paint pens would be neat!!!:yes:
After worrying if I was being an art hack for using them.lol

bigbarada
10-14-2009, 04:07 PM
I had considered doing some original artwork for my Skiff Guards website, but got so busy with other stuff that I only got this one sketch done. Maybe when winter rolls around and harvest is done, then I'll have more time to sit down and draw again.

Qui-Long Gone
11-03-2009, 10:06 AM
Barada would make an awesome guard dog!

Tycho
11-27-2009, 05:42 PM
Thnx LT!

An art aficionado who works at Wal Mart told me that Leonardo da Vinci would have thought the acrylic paint pens would be neat!!!:yes:
After worrying if I was being an art hack for using them.lol

Man, if a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle would use 'em - more power to you!

Master Splinter would approve. :yes:

And Scruffziller: I get your padlocked heart picture and not only approve, but relate. Good job. Good expression through art.

Daryl VayDar: your Fett and Slave-One are awesome!!!!!

Tycho
02-27-2010, 04:13 AM
I am considering asking for one of you to help with my novel.

You'll be acknowledged in the published version, and might even be paid by the publisher if I can get them to use your cover art.

I'll probably just use one picture for all of the following:

solicitation cover to agents and publishers
facebook profile picture
possible twitter profile picture
Myspace profile picture
printed on business cards

I want something like the latest SW / Indiana Jones covers - with the main characters' faces and some action sequences in the background.

I will send the artist a full copy of my manuscript so they can read it and decide for themselves if they want to represent it.

I can offer a little money for the initial work. You can trust that if I'm using it for solicitation, I'll want it to remain in use as my final published cover art. So I'll have it written in my contract that I get to approve the final cover art and I'll have the publisher contract with you to pay you a rate worthy of mass production of your art.

Elements would / might include:
a Kiera Knightly Victorian-look for a young lady
a battered and bloody Chris Pine look for a cowboy (probably no hat)
a Josh Duhamel looking Union Cavalry Officer maybe sneering with an evil eye
One or more characters pointing or firing their revolvers
At least one of those characters on a galloping horse like Indy is in Last Crusade's cover
a Pirates of the Caribbean (US flag 1860's) warship firing (USS Hartford)
a fortress burning
Wilfred Brimely looking hard-nose type - like he appeared in The Firm
Evil Jon Bon Jovi cowboy type (possibly - he was in Young Guns II)

The likenesses need not be spot-on, in fact that's misrepresentation. So just the approximate would do.

All I need is one good picture (colored).

You can sign your work and I'll reference you.

Are you interested? I was thinking about looking through the Official Art thread to scout the talent and will do so, but I feel I know you would know if this would interest you and if it would work out.

Let me know what you think,

- Josh

bigbarada
07-17-2012, 02:52 PM
After seeing the Gamorrean Guard Mythos statue at SDCC, I got kind of inspired to expand upon that "Star Wars alien in a fantasy setting" theme. These were the first two ideas that popped into my head, a Klatooinian Berzerker and a Quarren Necromancer:

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Both sketches are really rough as I was just hashing out the general idea. That's supposed to be a Mon Calamari skull in the Quarren's right hand in case you were wondering. Both drawings are intended to have a strong LOTR/D&D feel to them, I think that's what attracted me to this concept so much.