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General_Grievous
05-19-2005, 06:58 PM
My theater didn't have a digital showing, so to any who did have one, what was the scene where Yoda lands on Dagobah like? It was rumored to be in the digital version of the film.

Hasbro'sBountyHunter
05-19-2005, 07:51 PM
No such scene was in the digital version.

JediTricks
05-20-2005, 03:17 AM
I saw the digital version today, I can confirm there was no Dagobah scene at all.

General_Grievous
05-20-2005, 09:17 AM
Hmm...

I guess Lucas got over the stupid idea of his that "anyone who went to a digital screening would get an extra scene that wouldn't be in the regular version".

JEDIpartner
05-20-2005, 09:52 AM
I'm sure it was excised because it really wasn't relevant.

Droid
05-20-2005, 10:07 AM
There's a picture of his pod landing on Dagobah in either the movie scrapbook or movie storybook. I don't remember which. I'm sure in some future viewing we will see Yoda on Dagobah in Sith!

JEDIpartner
05-20-2005, 10:10 AM
Likely in the deleted scenes on the DVD...

evenflow
05-20-2005, 10:34 AM
Yeah, nothing sadly. I really hope all these deleted scenes make it back into the DVD.

Sith Lord 0498
05-20-2005, 04:19 PM
I'm sure it was excised because it really wasn't relevant.

I have to agree on that. I also agree with Lucas' reported rationale for excising Dagobah--it gave the movie too many "endings." Even this cut of ROTS felt like there were too many endings. I think they could've gotten rid of the "Death Star/Tarkin" sequence. It adds nothing. It eats up screen time. Most importantly, it creates the plothole of taking 20 years to build the first one but 3-4 years for the second one.

2-1B
05-21-2005, 12:43 AM
I have no need to see him going to Dagobah either.

PloKoon2385
05-21-2005, 02:08 AM
I completely disagree with the notion that the Death Star scene was a waste! It gave me goosebumps! I thought it was a magnificent shot. Also, the Death Star II was being built throughout the original trilogy I believe.

Darth Jax
05-21-2005, 07:54 PM
i don't want to just see yoda arrive on dagobah. that really accomplishes nothing. now showing yoda and fleshing out the dark side cave some, that's a scene i wouldn't mind being added.

on a side note, EU has more than just the 2 death stars existing. the empire has all manner of planet destroying weaponry.

Imperial Monarche
05-22-2005, 09:49 AM
I have to agree on that. I also agree with Lucas' reported rationale for excising Dagobah--it gave the movie too many "endings." Even this cut of ROTS felt like there were too many endings. I think they could've gotten rid of the "Death Star/Tarkin" sequence. It adds nothing. It eats up screen time. Most importantly, it creates the plothole of taking 20 years to build the first one but 3-4 years for the second one.

I disagree. It showed how Vader had come to grips with who he was and took his place at the Emperor's side. It's not a plothole that it took 20 years to build the first and 3-4 to build the second because I believe somewhere, it was said that the second Death Star was built concurrently, or a little after the first was started but in secret.

Sith Lord 0498
05-22-2005, 10:02 AM
I disagree. It showed how Vader had come to grips with who he was and took his place at the Emperor's side. It's not a plothole that it took 20 years to build the first and 3-4 to build the second because I believe somewhere, it was said that the second Death Star was built concurrently, or a little after the first was started but in secret.


I hadn't thought of it in terms of Vader's acceptance of his new role in life. In that respect, it does make sense as does the shot of showing them side by side. Tarkin was still somewhat of a waste. First, his makeup was horrible. They should've just found someone who resembled Cushing and not use any makeup. Second, have him stick around and put him in the side profile shot. It would still get across Vader's acceptance of the Dark Side, and it would be a nicer set-up for Episode IV.

jlw
05-23-2005, 10:43 AM
The only reason why I would want the Dagobah scene in the film is to see if possibly Obi-Wan took Yoda to Dagobah and then went to Tatooine. This, I think, would explain Lukes statement in TESB about "something familiar" about Dagobah.

As far as the Tarkin scene, it wasn't that long of a scene to be "taking up time"; but you make a valid point concerning the time frame of building the Death Star. Only reply to that is I do remembe some Ralph McQuarrie paintins showing two or three Death Stars under construction.

The Overlord Returns
05-23-2005, 10:49 AM
I'm still convinced that Yoda going to Dagobah was left out in order to show his travels there in the tv show. I imagine he'll appear a few times. Perhaps he'll even face down some evil thing there.

jlw
05-23-2005, 11:22 AM
That's a possibility. If and when they do the t.v. show one thing I expect to see is a confrontation between Owen Lars and Obi-Wan Kenobi. The prequels never really did touch on the whole, "Your uncle thought your father should stay here and not get involved" conversation. In the Star Wars radio drama, Luke mentions something about "Old Ben" coming by the farm several times and Owen running him off.

Lman316
05-23-2005, 12:11 PM
This, I think, would explain Lukes statement in TESB about "something familiar" about Dagobah.

That's the reason I wanted to see that scene too. How else would Dagobah seem familiar to Luke unless he had already been there (unless of course, it's just some kind of connection he has to Yoda, because Yoda was at his birth - but I don't really buy that)?


I'm still convinced that Yoda going to Dagobah was left out in order to show his travels there in the tv show. I imagine he'll appear a few times. Perhaps he'll even face down some evil thing there.

Unfornately, Lucas has said that the television series will only include minor characters. I was talking about this with someone and he came up with the idea that it'll probably revolve around Jar Jar Binks... :D

End...

JON9000
05-23-2005, 01:05 PM
Tarkin was still somewhat of a waste. First, his makeup was horrible. They should've just found someone who resembled Cushing and not use any makeup.
Cillian Murphy

The Overlord Returns
05-23-2005, 01:13 PM
Cillian Murphy

Looks absolutely nothing like Tarkin, and how would you explain the rapid ageing? Cillian Murphy is in his mid to late twenties I believe. Cushing is easily pushing seventy in ANH.

JON9000
05-23-2005, 01:33 PM
That's a possibility.
I seriously doubt it. I'll bet CGI Yoda costs a lot of cash to convincingly render. Lots more than a TV show budget will have- you are more likely to get the further adventures of Dengar.

And let's not forget SW's magnificent TV track record... Caravan of Courage, the Holiday Special- we could end up with Wookies watching soft-porn again!

OLR- About Murphy- I think he looks like him, kinda... high cheek bones, sort of reptilian (see the trailer for Batman begins?). But you are definitely right about the aging bit, so I guess it doesn't matter...

Sith Lord 0498
05-23-2005, 04:43 PM
The only reason why I would want the Dagobah scene in the film is to see if possibly Obi-Wan took Yoda to Dagobah and then went to Tatooine. This, I think, would explain Lukes statement in TESB about "something familiar" about Dagobah.

If you read the Episode III Incredible Cross-Sections book, they have an illustration for a Polis Massan escape pod. This is the pod Yoda took to Dagobah. At most, Obi-Wan and Luke were in orbit around Dagobah while Yoda launched from the Tantive IV. I believe his familiarity with Dagobah is the result of Yoda looking in on him throughout his life. Remember Yoda's line? "This one, a long time have I watched as he looked away to the future..."

Imperial Monarche
05-23-2005, 10:11 PM
So, if anyone knows the differences in the digital and film versions, I'd like to have some kind of list to look for when I go see it digitally this weekend.

MaquisWarrior
05-24-2005, 04:00 AM
I loved the ending where Beru is exicited to get Luke and Owen is just staring into Tatoonie's twin sunset ignoring Obi-Wan as if to blame him for his step brother's death. Then Owen changes his mind about holding his nephew! The dagobah scene should have come in there afterwards, but then they cut off a scene where Obi-Wan rides off into the sunset also (see the scrapbook or storybook, I forget which).

JediTricks
05-24-2005, 05:43 AM
That's the reason I wanted to see that scene too. How else would Dagobah seem familiar to Luke unless he had already been there (unless of course, it's just some kind of connection he has to Yoda, because Yoda was at his birth - but I don't really buy that)?I've always felt it was a connection to Yoda who watched over him all his life, as I expanded upon here: http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=26990